History YMMV / Kreator

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Most of the older fans will tell you that ''Pleasure to Kill'' is the epitome of Teutonic thrash, as well as one of the most important and pivotal albums in the development of death metal (along with ''Reign in Blood'', ''Darkness Descends'', ''Seven Churches'', ''Persecution Mania'', ''Eternal Devastation'', and ''To Mega Therion''). Younger fans, on the other hand, still see it as a classic and one of the best albums of the genre, but many don’t get just how groundbreaking it was back in 1986.

* WinBackTheCrowd: The release of ''Violent Revolution'' in 2001, which was a fresh return to the band's [[Main/ThrashMetal signature sound]] that was last seen on 1990's ''Coma of Souls''. Along with that, the album was generally very well-received by critics and fans alike.

** Though nowhere near as prominent as the above (the bulk of these releases being well received by the fandom, particularly ''Coma of Souls'' which is often seen as a competitor to ''Pleasure to Kill'' as their magnum opus), there exists a vocal minority of fans that thinks the band got significantly worse when their sound became more polished and technical, but less chaotic, on ''Terrible Certainty'', ''Endless Aggression'' and ''Coma of Souls''. This group similarly tends to think not very highly of ''Violent Revolution'' onward, viewing them and especially their strong MelodicDeathMetal tendencies as being "too clean".

* FaceOfTheBand: Mille Petrozza, as the lead vocalist/guitarist and only constant member, although Ventor is not far behind as he appeared on all but one album and used to perform lead vocals too.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The band’s Industrial/Gothic influenced albums got this.

* DorkAge: The band's albums from 1992 to 1999 are largely viewed as this due to abandoning their trademark sound in favor of IndustrialMetal[[note]]''Renewal'', ''Cause for Conflict''[[/note]] or GothicMetal[[note]]''Outcast'' and ''Endorama''[[/note]], although they have a fair amount of defenders.

* DorkAge: The band's albums from 1992 to 1999 are viewed as this due to abandoning their trademark sound in favor of IndustrialMetal[[note]]''Renewal'', ''Cause for Conflict''[[/note]] or GothicMetal[[note]]''Outcast'' and ''Endorama''[[/note]].
* FaceOfTheBand: Mille Petrozza.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Most of the older fans will tell you that ''Pleasure to Kill'' is the epitome of Teutonic thrash, as well as one of the most important albums in the development of death metal (along with ''Reign in Blood'', ''Darkness Descends'', ''Seven Churches'', ''Persecution Mania'', ''Eternal Devastation'', and ''To Mega Therion''). Younger fans, on the other hand, will still see it as a classic, but they probably won't get just how important it was.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Kreator got this when they switched to Industrial/Gothic.
* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Violent Revolution'' was released in 2001 which brought back the band's [[Main/ThrashMetal signature sound]] that was last seen previously on 1990's ''Coma of Souls''. Along with that, the album was generally well-received by critics and fans alike.

* SignatureSong: "Pleasure to Kill" or "Flag of Hate".

* BrokenBase: The band's albums from 1992 to 1999 are this for being IndustrialMetal[[note]]''Renewal'', ''Cause for Conflict''[[/note]] or GothicMetal[[note]]''Outcast'' and ''Endorama''[[/note]].

* BrokenBase: Is neo-thrash Kreator worthy, or are they trying too hard to return to their roots?

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Most of the older fans will tell you that ''Pleasure to Kill'' is the epitome of Teutonic thrash, as well as one of the most important albums in the development of death metal (along with ''Reign in Blood'', ''Darkness Descends'', ''Seven Churches'', ''Obsessed by Cruelty'', ''Eternal Devastation'', and ''To Mega Therion''). Younger fans, on the other hand, will still see it as a classic, but they probably won't get just how important it was.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Kreator got this when they switched to Industrial/Gothic. When they finally returned to their thrash roots, some panned it for being too melodic. Thankfully, ''Phantom Antichrist'' was a solid attempt to avert this, though they fell back into it with ''Gods of Violence''.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Kreator got this when they switched to Industrial/Gothic. When they finally returned to their thrash roots, some panned it for being too melodic.
** ''Phantom Antichrist'' seems to be averting this.

* SignatureSong: "Ripping Corpse" or "Flag of Hate."

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Most of the older fans will tell you that ''Pleasure to Kill'' is the epitome of Teutonic thrash, as well as one of the most important albums in the development of death metal (along with ''Reign in Blood'', ''Seven Churches'', and ''To Mega Therion''). Younger fans, on the other hand, will still see it as a classic, but they probably won't get just how important it was.

* BaseBreaker: Is neo-thrash Kreator worthy, or are they trying too hard to return to their roots?

* MagnumOpus: ''Pleasure To Kill''.

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Any older fans will tell you that ''Pleasure to Kill'' is the epitome of Teutonic Thrash, as well as the blueprint of thrash in general. However, newer, younger fans will fail to see anything special about Kreator's discography.

* BaseBreaker: Is neo-thrash Kreator worthy, or are they trying to hard to return to their roots?
* FaceOfTheBand: Mille Petrozza
* MagnumOpus: ''Pleasure To Kill''

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Kreator got this when they switched to Industrial/Gothic. When they finally returned to their thrash roots, some panned it for being too melodic.

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: