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* AccidentalAesop: The fight between Brok and Sindri creates an unintentional Aesop for both Atreus and the audience. Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy to solve a problem. Sometimes you have to be blunt or aggressive so people can actually understand and listen to you.
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* AccidentalAesop: The fight between Brok and Sindri creates an unintentional Aesop for both Atreus and the audience. Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy to solve a problem. Sometimes you have to be [[AngerIsHealthyAesop blunt or aggressive so people can actually understand and listen to you.you]].
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: A lot of players use only the Blades of Chaos for combat as soon as Kratos recovers them.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: A lot of players use only the Blades of Chaos for combat as soon as Kratos recovers them.them, as well as Atreus's shock arrows instead of the light ones.
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** Revenants are absolutely hated for their mobility, durability and HUGE damage, averting the SquishyWizard trope. If you even try to hit them, they'll just flee while hitting you with damaging spells that also causes status ailments. Even when you learn to abuse Atreus' arrows to stun them, there's also the durability to take into account. It gets worse when there's two of them. (And taken UpToEleven in the Ivaldi's Maze challenge, where you frequently encounter ''four'' at a time, along with draugr, wolves, wulvers, or dark elves in the same encounter area, [[SarcasmMode just to make it interesting]]. And while they spam you with poison attacks, you watch your life timer slowly run down. And then there's the way they just keep [[WickedWitch laughing all the time...]])
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** Revenants are absolutely hated for their mobility, durability and HUGE damage, averting the SquishyWizard trope. If you even try to hit them, they'll just flee while hitting you with damaging spells that also causes status ailments. Even when you learn to abuse Atreus' arrows to stun them, there's also the durability to take into account. It gets worse when there's two of them. (And taken UpToEleven up to eleven in the Ivaldi's Maze challenge, where you frequently encounter ''four'' at a time, along with draugr, wolves, wulvers, or dark elves in the same encounter area, [[SarcasmMode just to make it interesting]]. And while they spam you with poison attacks, you watch your life timer slowly run down. And then there's the way they just keep [[WickedWitch laughing all the time...]])
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* SpiritualAdaptation: A Norse mythology setting with an OlderAndWiser god on a journey together with [[spoiler:younger version of Loki]]? It's easy to see this game as a video game adaptation of the 2011 run of Creator/MarvelComics' ''ComicBook/JourneyIntoMysteryGillen'', with Kratos in place of ComicBook/{{Thor}}.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: A Norse mythology setting with an OlderAndWiser god on a journey together with [[spoiler:younger version of Loki]]? It's easy to see this game as a video game adaptation of the 2011 run of Creator/MarvelComics' ''ComicBook/JourneyIntoMysteryGillen'', with Kratos in place of ComicBook/{{Thor}}.[[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]].
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** During their second trip to [[spoiler:Helheim, Atreus eventually witnesses, to Kratos' distress, a hallucination of when [[VideoGame/GodOfWarIII he beat his father Zeus to death]], but when Kratos comments on it to Atreus afterwards, the latter claims he didn't see anything. Was Atreus horrified at what he had seen and wanted to pretend he never saw it? Or did he understand enough to acknowledge that it was something shameful of his father's past and he simply wanted to spare him of having to talk about it? A third possibility is that this happened shortly after Kratos snapped Atreus out of his arrogant behaviour when finding out he was a god, meaning Atreus realized his father had a past-self he regretted as well and had learned a similar lesson that he just taught him.]]
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** During their second trip to [[spoiler:Helheim, Atreus eventually witnesses, to Kratos' distress, a hallucination of when [[VideoGame/GodOfWarIII he beat his father Zeus to death]], but when Kratos comments on it to Atreus afterwards, the latter claims he didn't see anything. Was Atreus horrified at what he had seen and wanted to pretend he never saw it? Or did he understand enough to acknowledge that it was something shameful of his father's past and he simply wanted to spare him of having to talk about it? A third possibility is that this happened shortly after Kratos snapped Atreus out of his arrogant behaviour when finding out he was a god, meaning Atreus realized his father had a past-self he regretted as well and had learned a similar lesson that he just taught him. He later suggests he ''did'' overhear it when Kratos decides to fully come clean to him.]]
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* EvenBetterSequel: Not only was it considered by many fans to be arguably the best game in the series, but some even consider it to be the best game on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation4 to date -- as of August 2018, the only two games with better Metacritic scores are ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' and ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', both of which are actually {{Updated Rerelease}}s of previous-generation games.
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* EvenBetterSequel: Not only was it considered by many fans to be arguably the best game in the series, but some even consider it to be the best game on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation4 to date -- as of August 2018, the 2022, there are only two four games with better Metacritic scores are ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' and ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'', both scores, two of which (''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV and ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs) are actually {{Updated Rerelease}}s of previous-generation games.games. The other two (''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2 and ''VideoGame/Persona5) were highly anticipated sequels, to say the least.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process
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* UglyCute: The World Serpent can dip hard into UncannyValley, but some fans think that it's not that bad when he's in the distant skyline, combined with his slow movements, relaxed nature, and habit of sleeping, it can be almost endearing to return to the Lake of the Nine and see him there same as he ever was. Mimir even points out that the serpent enjoys being called "Jörmi" by his close friends.
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* UglyCute: The World Serpent can dip hard into UncannyValley, look creepy, but some fans think that it's not that bad when he's in the distant skyline, combined with his slow movements, relaxed nature, and habit of sleeping, it can be almost endearing to return to the Lake of the Nine and see him there same as he ever was. Mimir even points out that the serpent enjoys being called "Jörmi" by his close friends.
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Not a specific moment or sequence. This is basically a blanket example for the entire game.
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* UglyCute: The World Serpent can dip hard into UncannyValley, but some fans think that it's not that bad when he's in the distant skyline, combined with his slow movements, relaxed nature, and habit of sleeping, it can be almost endearing to return to the Lake of the Nine and see him there same as he ever was.
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* UglyCute: The World Serpent can dip hard into UncannyValley, but some fans think that it's not that bad when he's in the distant skyline, combined with his slow movements, relaxed nature, and habit of sleeping, it can be almost endearing to return to the Lake of the Nine and see him there same as he ever was. Mimir even points out that the serpent enjoys being called "Jörmi" by his close friends.
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** Because of the recycled title, fans have come up with new names for the game. The most-often used one is ''Dad of War'', but there's also ''God of Thor''. More conventionally, some fans also call the game ''God of War 4'', due to it still taking place after the third game.
** [[LetsPlay/JackSepticEye JackSepticEye]] refers to the game as ''Dad of Boy'', with "boy" being said like Kratos says it early in the game.
** Kratos has also drawn comparisons to Grog Strongjaw of ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'', since both have a similar character design.
** The Stranger is often referred to as "Conor [=McGregor=]" by the fanbase due to his strong physical resemblance, similar clothing (fighting shirtless), and similar attitude.
** Because of the recycled title, fans have come up with new names for the game. The most-often used one is ''Dad of War'', but there's also ''God of Thor''. More conventionally, some fans also call the game ''God of War 4'', due to it still taking place after the third game.
** [[LetsPlay/JackSepticEye JackSepticEye]] refers to the game as ''Dad of Boy'', with "boy" being said like Kratos says it early in the game.
** Kratos has also drawn comparisons to Grog Strongjaw of ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'', since both have a similar character design.
** The Stranger is often referred to as "Conor [=McGregor=]" by the fanbase due to his strong physical resemblance, similar clothing (fighting shirtless), and similar attitude.
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** Just a couple years later, there came [[VideoGame/{{Hades}} another game]] featuring a dour, beard-bearing god and his strained relationship with a son he usually just addresses as "boy".
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* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper: Each time you obtain an important crafting material, the game gives you a notification that needs to be manually dismissed. While it's manageable during a regular playthrough, in NewGamePlus this extends to Skap Slag, which you obtain regularly from most sources, such as coffins. This results in the notification popping up on a regular basis, and it still requires you to manually dismiss it every single time.
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* GeniusBonus: The in-universe confusion over [[spoiler:Freya and Frigg]] being the same god when Atreus thought they were separate is pretty in-line with real world debate on if the two are the same, since [[spoiler:Freya]] isn't mentioned outside of Scandanavia, only [[spoiler:Frigg]], and the two gods have a lot of overlapping qualities. The one name being well-known while the other is not is explained by Mimir as [[spoiler:Odin trying to {{Unperson}} Freya so that a Vanir could not claim credit for her great deeds, and he did so by attributing them to the goddess "Frigg", which was just his pet name for Freya and not a real Aesir.]]
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** Anyone with even a little knowledge of the mythology will recognize the significance of the mistletoe arrows that Sindri gives to Atreus, though none of the characters present have any idea of this until the very end of the game.
** The in-universe confusion over [[spoiler:Freya and Frigg]] being the same god when Atreus thought they were separate is pretty in-line with real world debate on if the two are the same, since [[spoiler:Freya]] isn't mentioned outside of Scandanavia, only [[spoiler:Frigg]], and the two gods have a lot of overlapping qualities. The one name being well-known while the other is not is explained by Mimir as [[spoiler:Odin trying to {{Unperson}} Freya so that a Vanir could not claim credit for her great deeds, and he did so by attributing them to the goddess "Frigg", which was just his pet name for Freya and not a real Aesir.]]]]
** The tensions and eventual conflict between Odin and Tyr play on the fact that scholars believe some early versions of Nordic religion followed Tyr as the leader of the gods, before Odin became more popular.
** Anyone with even a little knowledge of the mythology will recognize the significance of the mistletoe arrows that Sindri gives to Atreus, though none of the characters present have any idea of this until the very end of the game.
** The in-universe confusion over [[spoiler:Freya and Frigg]] being the same god when Atreus thought they were separate is pretty in-line with real world debate on if the two are the same, since [[spoiler:Freya]] isn't mentioned outside of Scandanavia, only [[spoiler:Frigg]], and the two gods have a lot of overlapping qualities. The one name being well-known while the other is not is explained by Mimir as [[spoiler:Odin trying to {{Unperson}} Freya so that a Vanir could not claim credit for her great deeds, and he did so by attributing them to the goddess "Frigg", which was just his pet name for Freya and not a real Aesir.
** The tensions and eventual conflict between Odin and Tyr play on the fact that scholars believe some early versions of Nordic religion followed Tyr as the leader of the gods, before Odin became more popular.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: While gathering boar-healing herbs at the Witch's house, Kratos can have a quick chat with Atreus before grabbing the white flowers where they have a discussion about how friendly and non-threatening she is, especially the fact she didn't immediately try to kill them. Kratos counters that she simply hasn't done so ''yet''. At this point it's simply light-hearted banter between the two, since she ends up being genuinely helpful and kind. [[spoiler:But later on she actually does want to kill them, specifically because they killed Baldur, who was her son as Freya, despite how they did it to save her from being killed by him.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: Kratos' quote "She would have died to see him live. Only a parent could understand." and stating that he would sacrifice himself for Atreus' survival becomes heartbreaking after the announcement that Kratos' mocap actor, Shad Gaspard, died saving his son from drowning.
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** Kratos' quote "She would have died to see him live. Only a parent could understand." and stating that he would sacrifice himself for Atreus' survival becomes heartbreaking after the announcement that Kratos' mocap actor, Shad Gaspard, died saving his son fromdrowning.drowning.
** While gathering boar-healing herbs at the Witch's house, Kratos can have a quick chat with Atreus before grabbing the white flowers where they have a discussion about how friendly and non-threatening she is, especially the fact she didn't immediately try to kill them. Kratos counters that she simply hasn't done so ''yet''. At this point it's simply light-hearted banter between the two, since she ends up being genuinely helpful and kind. [[spoiler:But later on she actually does want to kill them, specifically because they killed Baldur, who was her son as Freya, despite how they did it to save her from being killed by him.]]
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** While gathering boar-healing herbs at the Witch's house, Kratos can have a quick chat with Atreus before grabbing the white flowers where they have a discussion about how friendly and non-threatening she is, especially the fact she didn't immediately try to kill them. Kratos counters that she simply hasn't done so ''yet''. At this point it's simply light-hearted banter between the two, since she ends up being genuinely helpful and kind. [[spoiler:But later on she actually does want to kill them, specifically because they killed Baldur, who was her son as Freya, despite how they did it to save her from being killed by him.]]
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* ItWasHisSled: Kratos retrieves the Blades of Chaos and [[spoiler:Atreus is Loki]]. The former "twist" is difficult to avoid considering it's easy to stumble upon a gameplay video where Kratos has the Blades on his back, and the fact not everyone followed the game's development and marketing closely before its release (the Leviathan Axe combat was a big selling point, while {{Word of God}} remained silent on whether Kratos would get another weapon).
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* PolishedPort: The PC version of the game, launched in early 2022, received well-earned praise for how seamless the transition was from console to computer. Playing up to [=1440p=] at 90+ frames per second, DLSS and ultra-wide monitor support, and lots of graphic options certainly helped it. Even then, the shadows and lighting were improved further from the console versions, all with nearly no reported crashes. But it also runs well on lower-end [=PCs=], can be framerate-locked if needed, and the mouse/keyboard controls were also slated as very good.
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** Dropping the [[PressXToNotDie QTEs]] was met with thunderous approval worldwide.
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** Dropping the [[PressXToNotDie QTEs]] QTEs]], with the only exception being present [[spoiler: in the final fight with Baldur as opposed to every other boss fight in the game]], was met with thunderous approval worldwide.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: A Norse mythology setting with an OlderAndWiser god on a journey together with [[spoiler:younger version of Loki]]? It's easy to see this game as a video game adaptation of the 2011 run of Creator/MarvelComics' ''ComicBook/JourneyIntoMystery'', with Kratos in place of ComicBook/{{Thor}}.
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** The entire purpose of Kratos calling Atreus "boy" is to demonstrate to players how strained their relationship is. But the consistency in which Kratos says it is so frequent that not only is it considered to be hilarious, but it has become a meme.
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*** And anyone who's watched ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' must have had a good chuckle upon seeing Thor's design for ''Ragnarok.'' Seems like ''rotund'' is the new "in" look for the god of thunder.
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Values Dissonance is when the audience's morals or worldview clash with the work's, not just when the audience doesn't understand a reference.
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* ValuesDissonance: Non-western players might not fully register TheReveal that [[spoiler:Loki is Atreus's true name]] due to a general unfamiliarity with Norse Mythology, and [[spoiler:Loki]]'s overall nature. However, being familiar with Asgard from the Franchise/MarvelUniverse or the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse movies ''could'' help you make the connection.
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** Did Thor have noble intentions when he came to the Spirit's house to offer his condolences? Or did he just want to exploit a grieving family for personal gain? The spirit says that Thor indeed came to his house to offer his condolences but outstayed his welcome by getting drunk and killing the Spirit's mother when she begged him to leave. If he didn't get drunk, would he have still killed the mother?
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** Did Thor have noble intentions when he came to the Spirit's house to offer his condolences? Or did he just want to exploit a grieving family for personal gain? The spirit says that Thor indeed came to his house to offer his condolences at first but he outstayed his welcome by getting drunk and killing drunk, where he then killed the Spirit's mother in a fit of drunken rage when she begged him to leave. If he didn't This story is only told by the vengeful spirit, who has every right to be angry with Thor about what happened, however, until we get drunk, would he have still killed a full display of Thor's personality when he's calm then the mother?audience might get a clearer idea of what Thor's like.
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* Did Thor have noble intentions when he came to the Spirit's house to offer his condolences? Or did he just want to exploit a grieving family for personal gain? The spirit says that Thor indeed came to his house to offer his condolences but outstayed his welcome by getting drunk and killing the Spirit's mother when she begged him to leave. If he didn't get drunk, would he have still killed the mother?
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** For those that don't like the ''Dark Souls'' style controls or using the trigger button as your attacks, there is a control scheme called Classic. The control lay out is set up more like old ''God of War'' games with Square being your light attack, and Triangle being your heavy attack.
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* ScrappyMechanic: Upgrading your late-game gear quickly becomes a chore; there's no shortage of types of upgrade materials, but most gear requires specific ones. This becomes particularly frustrating with materials gathered from Muspelheim and Niflheim, as some drops are only found deep within the level. Even if the combat is pretty well executed, having to spend hours just mindlessly massacring enemies and traveling between realms to upgrade something only to then learn it requires even more rare materials from somewhere else, just becomes tiresome after a while.
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* ValuesDissonance: Non-western players might not fully register TheReveal that [[spoiler:Loki is Atreus's true name]] due to a general unfamiliarity with Norse Mythology, and [[spoiler:Loki]]'s overall nature. However being familiar with Asgard from Franchise/MarvelUniverse or watching Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse movies ''could'' help you make the connection.
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* ValuesDissonance: Non-western players might not fully register TheReveal that [[spoiler:Loki is Atreus's true name]] due to a general unfamiliarity with Norse Mythology, and [[spoiler:Loki]]'s overall nature. However However, being familiar with Asgard from the Franchise/MarvelUniverse or watching the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse movies ''could'' help you make the connection.
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Spoilering out a four letter word in this context makes it super obvious who is being talked about.
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* ValuesDissonance: Non-western players might not fully register TheReveal that [[spoiler:Loki is Atreus's true name]] due to a general unfamiliarity with Norse Mythology, and [[spoiler:Loki]]'s overall nature. However being familiar with the Franchise/MarvelUniverse or watching Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse movies and knowing Marvel's version of [[spoiler:Loki]] ''could'' help you make the connection.
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* ValuesDissonance: Non-western players might not fully register TheReveal that [[spoiler:Loki is Atreus's true name]] due to a general unfamiliarity with Norse Mythology, and [[spoiler:Loki]]'s overall nature. However being familiar with the Asgard from Franchise/MarvelUniverse or watching Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse movies and knowing Marvel's version of [[spoiler:Loki]] ''could'' help you make the connection.
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** Kratos' character development into a harsh but more responsible man could be seen as this after he got particularly [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy [[TooBleakStoppedCaring hard to root for]] in previous entries.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Not the game in respect to prior entries in the series obviously, but many have taken issue with the game being an over-the-shoulder, character and story driven game since [[{{VideoGame/Uncharted}} many]] [[{{Videogame/TheLastofUs}} other]] [[{{VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn}} Sony exclusives]] are like this. They fear that the series has lost its unique identity in favor of Sony homogenizing its game output.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Not the game in respect to prior entries in the series obviously, but many have taken issue with the game being an over-the-shoulder, [[AlwaysOverTheShoulder over-the-shoulder]], character and story driven game since [[{{VideoGame/Uncharted}} many]] [[{{Videogame/TheLastofUs}} other]] [[{{VideoGame/TheOrder1886}} Sony]] [[{{VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn}} Sony exclusives]] are like this. They fear that the series has lost its unique identity in favor of Sony homogenizing its game output.
