History YMMV / DoctorWhoS32E13TheWeddingOfRiverSong

18th Jan '17 6:01:59 PM QueenofSwords
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode fully cemented River Song as being a controversial, polarizing character (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality within the context of the series be merely brushed over, but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted]], thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode fully cemented River Song as being a controversial, an extremely polarizing character (after she was already fracturing it shown as one in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality within the context of the series be merely brushed over, but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted]], thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.
18th Jan '17 5:59:00 PM QueenofSwords
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode further cemented the debate on River Song (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality within the context of the series be merely brushed over, but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted]], thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode further fully cemented the debate on River Song as being a controversial, polarizing character (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality within the context of the series be merely brushed over, but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted]], thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.
8th Nov '16 9:05:51 AM QueenofSwords
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: River Song, as seen above. She's clearly meant to come off as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorld, but the fact that her actions threatened every single thing in the universe (including her parents, who were right there with her), along with River not even so much as flinching when this is pointed out to her, caused many fans to completely brush her off.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: River Song, as seen above. She's clearly meant to come off as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorld, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, but the fact that her actions threatened every single thing in the universe (including her parents, who were right there with her), along with River not even so much as flinching when this is pointed out to her, caused many fans to completely brush her off.
8th Nov '16 9:05:39 AM QueenofSwords
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: River Song, as seen above. She's clearly meant to come off as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorld, but the fact that her actions threatened every single thing in the universe (including her parents, who were right there with her), along with River not even so much as flinching when this is pointed out to her, caused many fans to completely brush her off.
3rd Nov '16 2:01:28 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode further cemented the debate on River Song (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon within the context of the series [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality be merely brushed over]], but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted, thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode further cemented the debate on River Song (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality within the context of the series [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality be merely brushed over]], over, but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted, wanted]], thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.
6th Oct '16 3:59:18 AM QueenofSwords
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BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode further cemented the debate on River Song (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon within the context of the series [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality be merely brushed over]], but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted, thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode further cemented the debate on River Song (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon within the context of the series [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality be merely brushed over]], but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted, thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.
6th Oct '16 3:59:04 AM QueenofSwords
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BaseBreakingCharacter: This episode further cemented the debate on River Song (after already fracturing it in the mid-season finale). Was she an utterly broken WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds whose desperate attempts to rescue the Doctor from his apparent fate were a heart-wrenching ActOfTrueLove, or a BrainwashedAndCrazy StalkerWithACrush who willingly endangered the ''entire universe'' (thereby going against everything the object of her affections stood for) and not only had what would usually be a MoralEventHorizon within the context of the series [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality be merely brushed over]], but essentially had her get away with everything she wanted, thus turning her into a KarmaHoudini? Interestingly enough, the scrutiny kicked up again after "Hell Bent", where the Doctor's own attempts at doing something similar (that is, subverting a fixed point in time in order to save someone he loved) get him a ''massive'' calling out.



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3rd Sep '15 6:02:35 PM Trogdor
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The opening scene before the credits has dinosaurs in a public park, flying car balloons, classical authors on a talk show, the Holy Roman Emperor in ''21st century Britain'' with the emperor himself being Winston Churchill who has a Silurian for a doctor. ''What the hell is going on?''

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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The opening scene before the credits has dinosaurs in a public park, flying car balloons, classical authors on a talk show, the Holy Roman Emperor in ''21st century Britain'' with the emperor himself being Winston Churchill who has a Silurian for a doctor. ''What the hell is going on?''on?''

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24th Aug '15 1:59:13 PM Trogdor
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The opening scene before the credits has dinosaurs in a public park, flying car ballons, classical authors on a talk show, the Holy Roman Emperor in ''21th century Britain'' with the emperor himself being Winston Churchilll who has a silurian for a doctor. ''What the flying fuck was that?''

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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The opening scene before the credits has dinosaurs in a public park, flying car ballons, balloons, classical authors on a talk show, the Holy Roman Emperor in ''21th ''21st century Britain'' with the emperor himself being Winston Churchilll Churchill who has a silurian Silurian for a doctor. ''What the flying fuck was that?''hell is going on?''
10th Jul '15 7:03:40 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The opening scene before the credits. ''What the flying fuck was that?''

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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: The opening scene before the credits. credits has dinosaurs in a public park, flying car ballons, classical authors on a talk show, the Holy Roman Emperor in ''21th century Britain'' with the emperor himself being Winston Churchilll who has a silurian for a doctor. ''What the flying fuck was that?''
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