History YMMV / DeadOrAlive

22nd Mar '17 9:38:38 AM GKG
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** Many have a hard time remembering that it's a FightingGame series. The vast majority of people only remember the female fighters's curvy model-esque bodies and JigglePhysics, for better or for worse. Mind you, Tecmo isn't trying to mask it or anything. They ran straight to the endzone with that knowledge (and zero regret) when promoting ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jfzh2s3jlE Dead or Alive 3]]''. Even ''5'', which tried to tone down ([[InternetBackdraft and failed miserably]]) the "doll-like" features of their female fighters and make them more natural looking, offered all sorts of sexy incentives for preorders like fuzzy bunny bikini costumes and squishy mouse pads, and even going back to the roots later on in the game's lifecycle.

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** Many have a hard time remembering that it's a FightingGame series. The vast majority of people only remember the female fighters's curvy model-esque bodies and JigglePhysics, for better or for worse. Mind you, Tecmo isn't trying to mask it or anything. They ran straight to the endzone with that knowledge (and zero regret) when promoting ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jfzh2s3jlE Dead or Alive 3]]''. Even ''5'', which tried to tone down ([[InternetBackdraft and failed miserably]]) the "doll-like" features of their female fighters and make them more natural looking, offered all sorts of sexy incentives for preorders like fuzzy bunny bikini costumes and squishy mouse pads, and even going back to the roots later on in the game's lifecycle.
13th Mar '17 1:07:20 PM rafi
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** Many have a hard time remembering that it's a FightingGame series.
** The first Xtreme Beach Volleyball got quite a few good reviews for being a pretty solid volleyball videogame.

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** Many have a hard time remembering that it's a FightingGame series.
series. The vast majority of people only remember the female fighters's curvy model-esque bodies and JigglePhysics, for better or for worse. Mind you, Tecmo isn't trying to mask it or anything. They ran straight to the endzone with that knowledge (and zero regret) when promoting ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jfzh2s3jlE Dead or Alive 3]]''. Even ''5'', which tried to tone down ([[InternetBackdraft and failed miserably]]) the "doll-like" features of their female fighters and make them more natural looking, offered all sorts of sexy incentives for preorders like fuzzy bunny bikini costumes and squishy mouse pads, and even going back to the roots later on in the game's lifecycle.
** The first Xtreme Beach Volleyball got quite ''Xtreme'' series as a few good reviews for being a pretty solid volleyball videogame.volleyball/jet ski game is basically the video game development equivalent of an ExcusePlot. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fp2yw6OCJg Watch and observe.]] Did you notice much sports action in that trailer?
*** Subverted with ''Xtreme 3'', due to the crackdown on fanservice in gaming; as well as [[NoExportForYou the game getting stuck in Asia.]]
13th Mar '17 1:00:01 PM GendoIkari
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** Marie Rose and Honoka were introduced in ''[=DOA5U=]'' and ''[=DOA5LR=]'' respectively as extra characters that get no specific story mode, but have gained so much popularity they are now [[WolverinePublicity front and center in the promotional material]] for ''Xtreme Beach Volleyball 3''; it's very likely that a future installment of the main series will promote them to full-fledged characters.

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** Marie Rose and Honoka were introduced in ''[=DOA5U=]'' and ''[=DOA5LR=]'' respectively as extra characters that get with no specific story mode, but have gained so much popularity they are now they've been [[WolverinePublicity front and center in the promotional material]] for ''Xtreme Beach Volleyball 3''; it's very likely that a future installment of the main series will promote them to full-fledged characters.
1st Mar '17 10:02:17 AM santos32
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* StuckInTheirShadow: ''Dead or Alive'' has male characters. Common knowledge to fans, but if you told this to a non-fan, it would likely be news to them. In fact, even within the fandom, when someone brings up "who's your favorite male character?", a common joke is to say "...there's male characters?". This naturally is a point of contention to some.

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* StuckInTheirShadow: ''Dead or Alive'' has male characters. Common knowledge to fans, but if you told this to a non-fan, it would likely be news to them. In fact, even within the fandom, when someone brings up "who's your favorite male character?", a common joke is to say "...there's male characters?". This naturally is a point of contention to some. Ryu Hayabusa is almost exempt from this given Ninja Gaiden's own popularity.
3rd Nov '16 9:20:22 AM Larkmarn
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** From a [[TournamentPlay competitive]] point of view, the series has has difficulty shedding the stigma of Dead Or Alive 4 for being an overly defensive game that penalized attacking with powerful counters.

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** From a [[TournamentPlay competitive]] point of view, the series has has difficulty shedding the stigma of Dead Or Alive 4 for being an overly defensive game that penalized attacking with powerful counters.
3rd Nov '16 9:18:29 AM otaking3582
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** [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Samus Aran]] in ''Dimensions''. While Samus herself has had [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros precedence]] in fighting games, other [[VideoGame/SoulSeries fighting games]] have precedence of using [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Nintendo guest characters]], and Nicole set a precedent of using guest characters in DOA, Samus is [[DemotedToExtra relegated]] to AssistCharacter -status.
14th Oct '16 3:31:42 PM nombretomado
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** People who are critical with Team Ninja usually only mention the ''Xtreme Beach Volleyball'' entries when they talk about the series or the studio, as if the fighting games didn't even exist (famous web shows like ''WebVideo/ExtraCredits'' or ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' have been guilty of this). And if they do mention them, they talk about the JigglePhysics as if they were the only noteworthy thing about them. Because, you know, being a pretty awesome fighting series on its own merits [[SarcasmMode means absolutely nothing]] next to the FanService.

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** People who are critical with Team Ninja usually only mention the ''Xtreme Beach Volleyball'' entries when they talk about the series or the studio, as if the fighting games didn't even exist (famous web shows like ''WebVideo/ExtraCredits'' ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' or ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' have been guilty of this). And if they do mention them, they talk about the JigglePhysics as if they were the only noteworthy thing about them. Because, you know, being a pretty awesome fighting series on its own merits [[SarcasmMode means absolutely nothing]] next to the FanService.
10th Sep '16 1:20:03 PM cricri3007
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* CrackIsChaper: As mentioned below in InternetBackdraft,buying all the costumes for ''[=DOA=] 5'' will cost you more than a brand new XBoxOne or PS4.

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* CrackIsChaper: CrackIsCheaper: As mentioned below in InternetBackdraft,buying all the costumes for ''[=DOA=] 5'' will cost you more than a brand new XBoxOne or PS4.
6th Sep '16 9:43:37 AM cricri3007
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* CrackIsChaper: As mentioned below in InternetBackdraft,buying all the costumes for ''[=DOA=] 5'' will cost you more than a brand new XBoxOne or PS4.
5th Sep '16 7:10:46 PM willofone
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** A Facebook account associated with Tecmo-Koei, while confirming the company's previous statement that ''Xtreme 3'' [[NoExportForYou would not receive an official Western release]], insinuated that one concern might be [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad that the game's sexualization of the female fighters might not go over well in the West]].[[note]]Exact quote in its entirety: “Do you know many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry? We do not want to talk those things here. But certainly we have gone through in last year or two to come to our decision. Thank you” [all sic][[/note]]. Backlash ensued, not so much at the company itself, but at the supposed "PC Police" who were accused of suppressing the game's release by this quasi-official source. Shortly after this, Play-Asia announced that they would be importing Asian-market English-language versions of ''Xtreme 3'' through their site and made remarks on their Twitter about "#SJW nonsense". As might be expected this caused a bit of a FlameWar, with at least one Tumblr page springing up (since removed) calling for a boycott of Play-Asia. [[http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/1/9827456/koei-tecmo-dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-controversy-team-ninja The fact that Tecmo-Koei has distanced itself from the comment on its Facebook account has not slowed down the controversy.]] The proposed boycott appears to have been a non-starter, considering Play Asia's follower count rose from 9000 to 19000 shortly after these events.

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** A Facebook account associated with Tecmo-Koei, while confirming the company's previous statement that ''Xtreme 3'' [[NoExportForYou would not receive an official Western release]], insinuated that one concern might be [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad that the game's sexualization of the female fighters might not go over well in the West]].[[note]]Exact quote in its entirety: “Do you know many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry? We do not want to talk those things here. But certainly we have gone through in last year or two to come to our decision. Thank you” [all sic][[/note]]. Backlash ensued, not so much at the company itself, but at the supposed "PC Police" who were accused of suppressing the game's release by this quasi-official source. Shortly after this, Play-Asia announced that they would be importing Asian-market English-language versions of ''Xtreme 3'' through their site and made remarks on their Twitter about "#SJW nonsense". As might be expected this caused a bit of a FlameWar, with at least one Tumblr page springing up (since removed) calling for a boycott of Play-Asia. [[http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/1/9827456/koei-tecmo-dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-controversy-team-ninja The fact that Tecmo-Koei has distanced itself from the comment on its Facebook account has not slowed down the controversy.]] [[AttackBackfire The proposed boycott appears to have been a non-starter, considering Play Asia's follower count rose from 9000 to 19000 shortly after these events.events]].
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