History YMMV / DarkForcesSaga

** Let's not forget the level in ''Jedi Knight'' where you have exactly [[TimedMission ONE MINUTE]] to escape a falling ship before it crashes. Said level is also filled with [[DemonicSpiders Probe Droids]] and other baddies [[spoiler: even when using the secret area to bypass large chunks of the level]]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And you have to lower the Moldy Crow AND raise the ramp so you can even get to it in the first place.]]

* Boc is probably the most unnerving of all of Jerec's followers in ''Jedi Knight''. Not only does he wield ''two'' lightsabers at once, but he jumps around so frantically (and so high) while fighting you that it's easy to get caught from behind. That, and he's definitely TheHyena of Jerec's crew, creepily giggling and cackling nonstop until you finally slaughter him - and even then, [[GoOutWithASmile he continues laughing until he finally chokes on his last breath]].

** Kell dragons. They're the size of tanks, they're practically unkillable (especially in ''Jedi Knight'', where bullets ''magnetically deflect off their scales'', and they sport gruesome [[SlasherSmile Slasher Smiles]].

** Gamorrean guards, at least after they [[TookALevelInBadass Take A Level In Badass]] in ''Jedi Knight''. Their evil piglike grunts are intimidating enough without those nasty battle-axes, which they can swing with deceptive speed.

** Jedi Knight and Mysteries of the Sith have the Drugons, which can kill you in one bite, can swim faster than you (if you're not using Force Speed), and may spot you from afar.

** Let's not forget the level in ''Jedi Knight'' where you have exactly [[TimedMission ONE MINUTE]] to escape a falling ship before it crashes. Said level is also filled with [[DemonicSpiders Probe Droids]] and other baddies [[spoiler: even when using the secret area to bypass large chunks of the level]]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And you have to lower the Moldy Crow AND raise the ramp so you can even get to it in the first place.]]
* TitleConfusion: See ColonCancer on the main page.

** Let's not forget the level in Jedi Knight where you have exactly [[TimedMission ONE MINUTE]] to escape a falling ship before it crashes. Said level is also filled with [[DemonicSpiders Probe Droids]] and other baddies [[spoiler: even when using the secret area to bypass large chunks of the level]]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And you have to lower the Moldy Crow AND raise the ramp so you can even get to it in the first place.]]

** Ironically, the pre-lightsaber levels become the most fun part of the game if the lightsaber is acquired early with cheats.

** Maxed out Mind Trick can turn any non-jedi enemy (besides bosses of course) to your side. Which means those annoying Jet-Pack soldiers with concussion rifles that take two or three rockets to kill can just be turned against each other. In fact, maxing out Force Grip and Mind Trick makes the entire game a complete breeze.

* BetterThanCanon: Kyle fanboys consider the dark side ending for ''Jedi Knight'' to be a gMomentOfAwesome, though they understand why it cannot be canon.
* CanonSue: Kyle is a {{Badass}} GenreSavvy DeadpanSnarker who mows down trained soldiers by the hundreds single-handedly before beating the crap out of Boba Fett and a Kell dragon and becoming a Jedi. No-one is bothered by this, though, since he's the player character and it's '''fun''' to be a CanonSue!

* ThatOneLevel: ''Dark Forces'' had Jabba's ship, a.k.a. the one where you have to punch Kell Dragons to death before they eat you. ''Jedi Outcast's'' arbitrary stealth mission certainly counts, though any level prior to receiving the lightsaber could apply.

* AlasPoorVillain: Stormtroopers have a pretty poor reputation to begin with ([[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy terrible aim]], being defeated by walking teddy bears, etc.) but it's surprisingly easy to feel sorry for them in ''Outcast''. It's not uncommon, when sneaking around, to hear them chatting with one another about various things, such as how hard it is to see out of their helmets, griping about higher ranking officers berating them, or even chatting about their new T-16's. In other words, ordinary guys just passing the time. And then you come in with your fancy lightsaber, and it's pretty easy to feel sorry for them as they get cut down left and right (Their screams of complete and utter terror as they get cut down, or hurled off a high ledge certainly doesn't help). If you're feeling merciful (or a little guilty), you can disarm the troopers by force choking them, grabbing their weapons, and leaving them to run around harmlessly (they may even raise their hands in surrender if you get close enough).

* NightmareFuel: In the original Dark Forces, you've got the Dianogas that pop up out of sewage and roar in your face.

* DemonicSpiders: Hazard Troopers without certain Force powers, [=AT-STs=] when lacking your own walker or fixed gun. The Heavy Repeater's concussion grenade launcher, the missile launcher, DEMP 2's and Force Lightning above level 1 also help if you have neither of the former two.

* GameBreaker: Once you max out Force Grip, you can use it to drop all but the most powerful of dark Jedi off a cliff or throw them into the air fast and high enough to kill them, allowing you to instantly kill the only enemies that stand a chance against you. Instantly, that is, once you do get it right, since Dark Jedi are very quick to use Push to escape.

* DemonicSpiders: Hazard Troopers without certain Force powers, [=AT-STs=] when lacking your own walker or fixed gun. DEMP 2's and Force Lightning above level 1 also help if you have neither of the former two.

* CompleteMonster: Maw holds the record; see quote below.
--> "I had the pleasure of cutting off your father's head and THRUSTING IT ON A SPIKE FOR ALL TO SEE!"
** Desann and Tavion, as well. Both are ruthless, murderous, and completely devoid of sympathy or humanizing traits.

--> "I had the pleasure of cutting off your father's head and [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel THRUSTING IT ON A SPIKE FOR ALL TO SEE!]]"

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The dianogas in the 3rd level of Dark Forces.
** The {{Sand Worm}}s on Blenjeel, if you don't know [[FeedItABomb how to kill them]].

* DemonicSpiders: Hazard Troopers without certain Force powers, [=AT-STs=] when lacking your own walker or fixed gun.

** The {{Sand Worm}}s on Blenjeel, if you don't know [[FeedItABomb how to kill it]].

* BetterThanCanon: Kyle fanboys consider the dark side ending for ''Jedi Knight'' to be its CrowningMomentOfAwesome, though they understand why it cannot be canon.
** More bothersome is the canonization of the ''Jedi Academy'' light side ending. The dark side ending is just so much more interesting, it doesn't ruin the Star Wars universe, and it leaves a SequelHook. Oh, and it [[TheScrappy excises Rosh from the galaxy far far away]]. [[SarcasmMode Thanks]], WordOfGod.
*** Technically, Kyle and Jaden have made it into the novels, where [[CanonForeigner Rosh is apparently never mentioned again]] after the events of ''Academy''…

* EvilIsSexy: Sariss

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The dianogas in the 3rd level of Dark Forces.

** Kyle Katarn is the Chuck Norris/Jack Bauer of the Star Wars Universe, except Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer aren't Jedi. Poor bastards.
* {{Narm}}: Most of the live-action cut scenes in Jedi Knight.
** Also: the ghost of Marka Ragnos in the light-side ending of Jedi Academy.

* TheScrappy: Rosh: his personality, voice, and carelessness, among other things[[spoiler:--such as the fact that the path to the dark side is to kill him--]]show that he may have been designed to [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste intentionally invoke the trope]]. [[spoiler: Runs into AlasPoorScrappy in the dark side ending, his death scene is oddly affecting.]]

** Ironically, the pre-lightsaber levels become the most fun part of the game if the lightsaber is acquired early with cheats. Dismemberment mode helps, too.

* GameBreaker: Once you max out Force Grip, you can use it to drop all but the most powerful of dark Jedi off a cliff, allowing you to instantly kill the only enemies that stand a chance against you.

*** Also Dark Rage in Jedi Academy; it makes you completely invincible, faster, and makes you cause more damage. At level one and two it's (very) slightly balanced by the fact it takes pretty much all your health to use (but it can't kill you in itself), at level 3 it only takes twenty health each use (force heal makes this easily recoverable between fights) and lasts more than long enough to destroy almost anything but the toughest of enemies (the only drawback being that there's a somewhat long delay before it can be recast if it does run out).
*** Maxed out Mind Trick can turn any non-jedi enemy (besides bosses of course) to your side. Which means those annoying Jet-Pack soldiers with concussion rifles that take two or three rockets to kill can just be turned against each other. In fact, maxing out Force Grip and Mind Trick makes the entire game a complete breeze.

* GoddamnedBats: In ''Dark Forces'' and ''Jedi Knight'', the remotes. In ''Mysteries of the Sith'', Mailocs. In ''Outcast'', the mine crabs on Artus Prime. And in ''Academy'', Rocket Stormtroopers (the ones with jetpacks with the jetpacks).