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* BrokenBase: Fans of Avenged Sevenfold's earlier material vs fans of their later material. Fans opinions of the SelfTitledAlbum is particularly split.

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* BrokenBase: Fans of Avenged Sevenfold's earlier material vs The AvengedSevenfold fandom comes in about four camps:
** Those who listen primarily to metalcore/post-hardcore tend to gravitate towards the band's first two albums, Sounding the Seventh Trumpet and Waking the Fallen.
** Those who don't care much for metalcore/post-hardcore, but are
fans of their later material. Fans opinions straightforward hard rock bordering on heavy metal would prefer the band's output from City of Evil and thereafter. Although, some may enjoy a handful of the SelfTitledAlbum less -core sounding songs from Waking the Fallen (in particular, Unholy Confessions). However, this group is particularly split.divided further into two groups.
** The band's latest album, Hail to the King, is not only the first album to be recorded without any input whatsoever from the late Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan - but also takes on a significantly different direction from the previous three albums (although probably not quite as drastically as City of Evil was from Waking the Fallen). According to lead singer M Shadows, the album can be described as "more blues rock-influenced and more like classic rock and classic metal in the vein of Music/BlackSabbath and Music/LedZeppelin". Quite naturally, this album would be even more disdained by those who prefer the band's STST/WTF-era style. But even a significant portion of those who have enjoyed the past three albums find the style to be too much of a departure for them.
** Last, but not least, there are those who enjoy the entire body of the band's output. Even if the band may have modified their style a few times, the "Avenged Sevenfold flavour" was a constant in everything they did.
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* TheScrappy: "Dear God"
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Hail To The King" is the [=A7X=] answer to {{Music/Metallica}}'s "King Nothing".
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**Also, arguments abound over who is the better drummer: Arin or Jimmy.
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* FanDumb: Many a fan went crazy after seeing M. Shadows's new hairstyle. M. Shadows himself lampshades this trope.
-->“I know there are some little girl fans out there that have a problem with [my hair], and that’s why I’m going to keep it” – M. Shadows
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Music/{{Overkill}}'s mascot Chaly has been around longer than [=A7X=]'s Deathbat. The former band has even sent the members of the latter band shirts telling them to "get your own fuckin' mascot!" for "stealing" the design.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Music/{{Overkill}}'s mascot Chaly has been around longer than [=A7X=]'s Deathbat. The former band has even sent the members of the latter band shirts telling them to "get your own fuckin' mascot!" for "stealing" the design. However, the symbol of the skull with wings is older than Overkill themselves.
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** It's a little unsettling to hear The Rev say "You'll never see me again" in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tPPM4UfWmk this interview]]. Also, the song [[TearJerker "Fiction"]] definitely counts even though it was released after his death, as it was the last song he wrote and the song is told from the point of view of someone recently deceased saying goodbye to their loved ones. To add to the eeriness, it contains the very last vocal and piano tracks he ever recorded and is the only song on the album that features his voice and playing. Well that, and this quote:

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** It's [[HarsherInHindsight a little unsettling unsettling]] to hear The Rev say "You'll never see me again" in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tPPM4UfWmk this interview]]. Also, the song [[TearJerker "Fiction"]] definitely counts even though it was released after his death, as it was the last song he wrote and the song is told from the point of view of someone recently deceased saying goodbye to their loved ones. To add to the eeriness, it contains the very last vocal and piano tracks he ever recorded and is the only song on the album that features his voice and playing. Well that, and this quote:
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* TooGoodToLast: A line in "Victim" says, "Nothing lasts forever; for all good things, it's true."
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** "Not Ready to Die," the song written for [[CallOfDutyBlackOps Black Ops Zombies,]] is sung from the point of view of Richtofen / the zombies...

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** "Not Ready to Die," the song written for [[CallOfDutyBlackOps [[VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOps Black Ops Zombies,]] is sung from the point of view of Richtofen / the zombies...
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* BizarroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: "Sounding The Seventh Trumpet" is mostly a HardcorePunk album. Johnny isn't in the band yet, Synyster Gates' guitar solos are nowhere to be found (besides "To End The Rapture" on the re-release) since he joined the band just after finishing recording, The Rev is pretty much doing fills constantly for the whole album, M. Shadows barely sings (And when he does, [[NoseYodeling well...]]), and "Streets" is a leftover punk song from one of M. Shadows' first bands.
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* BizarroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"
* BloodyHilarious: "A Little Piece of Heaven"
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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, [[{{Understatement}} a little bit]] Fascist, and pretty much say "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" to anyone criticizing the [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot It's a shame too,]] considering that [[AwesomeMusic musically the song is actually extremely awesome,]] [[StepUpToTheMic especially The Rev's chorus]]. [[note]] If it makes you feel any better, they have written a few WarIsHell songs, ("MIA," "Gunslinger") and "Blinded In Chains" seems be about corrupt politicians. [[/note]]

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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, [[{{Understatement}} a little bit]] bit Fascist, and pretty much say "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" to anyone criticizing the [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot It's a shame too,]] considering that [[AwesomeMusic musically the song is actually extremely awesome,]] [[StepUpToTheMic especially The Rev's chorus]]. [[note]] If it makes you feel any better, they have written a few WarIsHell songs, ("MIA," "Gunslinger") and "Blinded In Chains" seems be about corrupt politicians. [[/note]]
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* FaceOfTheBand: Averted. The whole band are always seen as a {{Nakama}}, and nobody really gets any publicity over anyone else ('cept [[NobodyLovesTheBassist maybe]] [[ButtMonkey Johnny...]])

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* FaceOfTheBand: Averted. The whole band are always seen as a {{Nakama}}, TrueCompanions, and nobody really gets any publicity over anyone else ('cept [[NobodyLovesTheBassist maybe]] [[ButtMonkey Johnny...]])
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* SignatureStyle: Expect poppy chord progressions and catchy EarWorm hooks and Choruses, against metal backgrounds, references to TheBible, melodramatic and theatrical LargeHam lyrics, and a lot of harmonic minor keys.

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* SignatureStyle: Expect poppy chord progressions and catchy EarWorm hooks and Choruses, against metal backgrounds, references to TheBible, Literature/TheBible, melodramatic and theatrical LargeHam lyrics, and a lot of harmonic minor keys.
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* BizzarroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"

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* BizzarroEpisode: BizarroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"
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* BizzaroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"

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* BizzaroEpisode: BizzarroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"
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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, [[{{Understatement}} a little bit]] Fascist, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger and pretty much say]] "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" [[DarthWiki/WallBanger to anyone criticizing the]] [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot It's a shame too,]] considering that [[AwesomeMusic musically the song is actually extremely awesome,]] [[StepUpToTheMic especially The Rev's chorus]]. [[note]] If it makes you feel any better, they have written a few WarIsHell songs, ("MIA," "Gunslinger") and "Blinded In Chains" seems be about corrupt politicians. [[/note]]

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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, [[{{Understatement}} a little bit]] Fascist, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger and pretty much say]] "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" [[DarthWiki/WallBanger say "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" to anyone criticizing the]] the [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot It's a shame too,]] considering that [[AwesomeMusic musically the song is actually extremely awesome,]] [[StepUpToTheMic especially The Rev's chorus]]. [[note]] If it makes you feel any better, they have written a few WarIsHell songs, ("MIA," "Gunslinger") and "Blinded In Chains" seems be about corrupt politicians. [[/note]]
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* BizzaroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"


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* EnsembleDarkhorse: "A Little Piece Of Heaven" of course.


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* FaceOfTheBand: Averted. The whole band are always seen as a {{Nakama}}, and nobody really gets any publicity over anyone else ('cept [[NobodyLovesTheBassist maybe]] [[ButtMonkey Johnny...]])
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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, [[{{Understatement}} a little bit]] Fascist, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger and pretty much say]] "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" [[DarthWiki/WallBanger to anyone criticizing the]] [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot It's a shame too,]] considering that [[AwesomeMusic musically the song is actually extremely awesome,]] [[StepUpToTheMic especially The Rev's chorus]]. [[note]] If it makes you feel any better, they have written a few WarIsHell songs, ("MIA," "Gunslinger") and "Blinded In Chains" seems be about corrupt politicians.]] [[/note]]

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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, [[{{Understatement}} a little bit]] Fascist, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger and pretty much say]] "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" [[DarthWiki/WallBanger to anyone criticizing the]] [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot It's a shame too,]] considering that [[AwesomeMusic musically the song is actually extremely awesome,]] [[StepUpToTheMic especially The Rev's chorus]]. [[note]] If it makes you feel any better, they have written a few WarIsHell songs, ("MIA," "Gunslinger") and "Blinded In Chains" seems be about corrupt politicians.]] [[/note]]

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** The Rev had pretty much said that the whole first album is [[OldShame pretty much entirely this for the band,]] but that [[NarmCharm it's still actually quite fun for them to listen to]] [[SoBadItsGood for exactly that reason.]]



* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, a little bit Fascist, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger and pretty much say]] "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" [[DarthWiki/WallBanger to anyone criticizing the]] [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one.

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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, [[{{Understatement}} a little bit bit]] Fascist, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger and pretty much say]] "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" [[DarthWiki/WallBanger to anyone criticizing the]] [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot It's a shame too,]] considering that [[AwesomeMusic musically the song is actually extremely awesome,]] [[StepUpToTheMic especially The Rev's chorus]]. [[note]] If it makes you feel any better, they have written a few WarIsHell songs, ("MIA," "Gunslinger") and "Blinded In Chains" seems be about corrupt politicians.]] [[/note]]
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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, a little bit Fascist, and pretty much say "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" to anyone criticizing the [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]]

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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, a little bit Fascist, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger and pretty much say say]] "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" [[DarthWiki/WallBanger to anyone criticizing the the]] [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]]]] They had previously said and still say the they never will force their political or religious views on everyone, but ''apparently'' they just felt that SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped for this one.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: "Critical Acclaim" from the Self Titled album.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: "Critical Acclaim" from the Self Titled album. See UnfortunateImplications.
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* UnfortunateImplications: While the message of "Critical Acclaim" is to not bash on soldiers that are fighting and struggling, some of the lyrics come across as pro-WarOnTerror, a little bit Fascist, and pretty much say "LetsSeeYouDoBetter" to anyone criticizing the [[GeorgeWBush Bush Administration.]]
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: "Sounding The Seventh Trumpet" is mostly a HardcorePunk album. Johnny isn't in the band yet, Synyster Gates' guitar solos are nowhere to be found (besides "To End The Rapture" on the re-release) since he joined the band just after finishing recording, The Rev is pretty much doing fills constantly for the whole album, M. Shadows barely sings (And when he does, [[NoseYodeling well...]]), and "Streets" is a leftover punk song from one of M. Shadows' first bands.
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* SignatureSong: "Bat Country," "The Beast And The Harlot," "Unholy Confessions," "Nightmare"
* SignatureStyle: Expect poppy chord progressions and catchy EarWorm hooks and Choruses, against metal backgrounds, references to TheBible, melodramatic and theatrical LargeHam lyrics, and a lot of harmonic minor keys.
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--->''Under my skiiiiiiiiin,''

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--->''Under my skiiiiiiiiin,''skin,''
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--->''Let it burn,''
--->''Under my skiiiiiiiiin,''
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--->''Not that I could,''
--->''Or that I would,''
--->''[[FamousLastWords Let it]]'' '''''[[CarefulWithThatAxe BUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN]]'''''
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** The original version of "To End The Rapture" on Sounding The Seventh Trumpet recorded before Synyster Gates joined the band is probably one of the accidentally funniest songs you'll ever hear. Instead of the explosive metal intro, it's a LonelyPianoPiece, but with Matt's really...''er''.... ''bad'' vocals utter seriousness it's ''very'' silly sounding.

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