History WMG / TheSecretOfNIMH

[[WMG: The story ''could'' be set in the world of AssassinsCreed]]

The "Witches" were horrific hallucinations brought on both by the drugs and by incomplete "readings" of the various scientists' minds. For instance, Charlotte was inspired by one scientist thinking he should get some more baby mice to feed his pet snake, and Uhrmann [[TearJerker was actually a dog in the lab, wondering why the]] [[HumansAreCthulhu scientists were doing all these horrible things to her]]. Kyubey was a BrokenBird rat who sensed that humans tend to regard rats as vermin, and hence believed that the other rats should willingly sacrifice themselves to the humans' experiments. As to why they imagined themselves as Japanese anime characters? One of the chief NIMH researchers was originally from Japan, and a MagicalGirl anime fan. (Madoka herself bore some resemblance to classic Magical Girl [[FairyPrincessMinkyMomo Minky Momo]], which incidentally also came out in 1982.)

The "Witches" were horrific hallucinations brought on both by the drugs and by incomplete "readings" of the various scientists' minds. For instance, Charlotte was inspired by one scientist thinking he should get some more baby mice to feed his pet snake, and Uhrmann [[TearJerker was actually a dog in the lab, wondering why the]] [[HumansAreCthulhu scientists were doing all these horrible things to her]]. Kyubey was a BrokenBird rat who sensed that humans tend to regard rats as vermin, and hence believed that the other rats should willingly sacrifice themselves to the humans' experiments. As to why they imagined themselves as Japanese anime characters? One of the chief NIMH researchers was originally from Japan, and a MagicalGirl anime fan. (Madoka herself bore some resemblance to classic Magical Girl MinkyMomo, which incidentally also came out in 1982.)

The "Witches" were horrific hallucinations brought on both by the drugs and by incomplete "readings" of the various scientists' minds. For instance, Charlotte was inspired by one scientist thinking he should get some more baby mice to feed his pet snake, and Uhrmann [[TearJerker was actually a dog in the lab, wondering why the]] [[HumansAreCthulhu scientists were doing all these horrible things to her]]. Kyubey was a BrokenBird rat who sensed that humans tend to regard rats as vermin, and hence believed that the other rats should willingly sacrifice themselves to the humans' experiments. As to why they imagined themselves as Japanese anime characters? One of the chief NIMH researchers was originally from Japan, and a MagicalGirl anime fan.

The "Witches" were horrific hallucinations brought on both by the drugs and by incomplete "readings" of the various scientists' minds. For instance, Charlotte was inspired by one scientist thinking he should get some more baby mice to feed his pet snake, and Uhrmann [[TearJerker was actually a dog in the lab, wondering why the]] [[HumansAreCthulhu scientists were doing all these horrible things to her]]. Kyubey was a BrokenBird rat who sensed that humans tend to regard rats as vermin, and hence believed that the other rats should willingly sacrifice themselves to the humans' experiments. As to why they imagined themselves as Japanese anime characters? One of the chief NIMH researchers was originally from Japan, and an anime fan.

** [[FanonDiscontinuity Would you reall miss them if you were to follow this theory]]? Basically, it requires you to do that, and it is made easier by the fact that DonBluth didn't make the sequels. So this theory ''may'' still work when taking that stand.

Manwë and the other Valar got pretty much insane, and somehow managing to return to the real world because of the ArtifactOfDoom Mrs Brisby/Frisby. The process in which the rats gain conscience in NIMH somehow mimiced the way the eä were given to men and the old middle-earth races, and the Valar perceived that as going against Eru's will and possibly done by corrupted Ainur, so the help provided by the owl/Mandos was all part of a XanatosGambit to eliminate all the rats, mice and other sentient creatures.

[[WMG: At least one more mouse of NIMH survived and became one of [[RescueRangers Gadget Hackwrench]]'s parents.]]

[[WMG: Mrs. Brisby is actually an evil Succubus.]]

We need a new object of insanity.

Think about it. Dead husband? Check. Super-powers-gained-through amulet? Check. Immense cuteness and ability to win over the hearts of carnivores and fellow animals alike? Check. Blood-red cloak that is tattered and hands that get burned by touching aforemenioned amulet which is probably a holy relic? Check and mate. Lets face it, she's only ''acting'' timid and shy to throw off the Inquisition.
** What?? [[TheWoobie Sweet little Mrs. Brisby]] a soul-devouring [[HornyDevils succubus?]] For shame! If there are any mousegirl succubi in a Mouse World setting, it'd be [[MsFanservice Miss Kitty]] from [[TheGreatMouseDetective that other movie]].

[[WMG: [[PoesLaw Mrs. Frisby/Brisby is actually an evil incubus]].]]
[[FurryFandom Think]] [[SlashFic about]] [[MisterSeahorse it]].

** that woudl give them just about human-sized brains as well.

[[WMG: Nicodemus isn't psychic, or even a wizard; he's one of the [[GeniusTheTransgression Inspired.]]]]

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** Riddle me this, though. If it does spread, why aren't their life-spans extended? Nicodemus clearly states Jonathan would have lived longer. It doesn't seem like a concoction that alters/mutates/rewrites a being's genetic sequence and neural network (The ONLY WAY these effects can be explained without involving magic, and even then it's a seriously long shot) could spread; it would have to be passed down through generations.
*** There is magic in the film-verse. How else do you explain that locket of Mrs. Brisby's?
**** Actually there's no saying that it's ''magical''. It's probably just an AppliedPhlebotinum which is totally scientific in nature. We kind of automatically assume the word "amulet" means that it's magical because that's the usual connotation. The amulet is activated by "courage of the heart" but this could be related to some kind of telepathic/kinetic ability. Mrs Brisby's emotions alone, and her intense desire to save her family, were enough to make the whole thing work. It doesn't have to be''magic''.
**** That's playing to HarryPotter, that is.
** Well, perhaps the intelligence is spread ''psychically.'' Nicodemus demonstrates telekinetic powers throughout the film, so by extension, the enhanced rats and mice likely possess latent psychic talents that allow their exceptional intelligence to spread to those around them. It may be restricted to rodents and birds, since Dragon didn't show phenomenal intelligence even after eating Jonathan Brisby.
*** Well, that would suggest Theory of Primary Perception in animal form, AKA everything is linked by psychic, unconscious bonds; and by extension Collective Unconscious. But something that can bring out latent psychic powers in ANIMALS? That kind of thing would have humans swarming all over NIMH, and NIMH itself would quadruple its efforts to capture the Rats. Besides, it still doesn't sound entirely correct for mutations to occur by something simply being there and unconsciously making them happen.
*** The psychic powers are ''{{canon}}.'' [[RuleOfPerception We see them.]] And that variety of mutation happens in cartoons quite often...
**** But psychic powers don't cause mutations themselves. Besides, wouldn't it be ridiculously painful for Mrs. Brisby to suffer the same kind of alterations the Rats did? Even through alternate means? Back to the Mantra.
***** It was ridiculously painful. Her hands were in bandages for quite some time after she used that locket.
***** True, but that was because she was holding sternly on to the locket even as he burned into her skin, right? She did not have the same body-wide torment the Rats seemed to go through. Sheesh, all this severe nit-picking of the movie is making me more of a rapid fan-boy, isn't it?
*** Why are we suddenly talking about the locket? I was thinking that these mutations would have occurred several years ago, around the time that the Rats of NIMH first arrived in the field: plus, as the delivery system is based on a passive psychic field, it would most likely be a gradual process rather than the rapid and painful mutation that the Rats experienced. Do you think this sounds bizarre enough?
*** Well, we're only JUST going into supreme nit-picking and psionic theory, but still not QUITE in EpilepticTree territory yet. Gosh this is fun though. And passive psychic mutations? Wouldn't ole' Nicodemus know about that?
*** Who knows? Maybe he did, and never got the chance to tell anyone before Jenner flattened him.
*** So he just decided to be sadistic and tell Brisby "Your probably just like us now, but I'm going to tell you you'd have died first, and then told you the truth once we moved your house. Oops, I'm dead! Sorry 'bout that." I guess Nicodemus had a layer of humor under all that mystery.
** Covers both the "Why Mrs. Frisby/Brisby Had A Shorter Lifespan" and "Why No Extreme Pain Was Experienced": The pain was physically real, not a result of the neural network rewrite, and a result of the cells changing due to something in the injections that was not contagious, but would allow for inheritable increased lifespan and physical abilities. The intelligence side effect was something else in the cocktail of drugs and viruses. If it was contagious, it would only have mild flu-like or cold symptoms if anything (if thanks to the telepathy, it could have no symptoms, and Nicodemus simply didn't know of the effects). If it was not, then it could be a result of the animals being affected by their interactions with Johnathan and Mr. Ages, and indirectly through Mrs. Frisby and the children.

* Naming conventions are just something the rats of NIMH picked up. Johnathan wanted his children to have names so that's why they have them.

* Naming conventions are just something the rats of NIMH picked up.

* They always seemed a bit...dodgy, because genrally lab rats are pet rats, not wild ones. So they must have not wanted any one knowing one knowing what they were doing. They were not trying to produce a memory or learning drug, but one which may harshly seperate humans with the drug to those without, like the normal rats from the NIMH rats.

** [[TheNostalgiaCritic That Guy With The Glasses]] and The Other Guy endorse this theory in a commentary.

** What?? [[TheWoobie Sweet little Mrs. Brisby]] a soul-devouring [[FemmeFatale succubus?]] For shame! If there are any mousegirl succubi in a Mouse World setting, it'd be [[MsFanservice Miss Kitty]] from [[TheGreatMouseDetective that other movie]].