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After you've almost gotten Summer to tell you why he's at the Dusk, and admit [[spoiler: that he plagiarized his first book from his gifted friend Alan]], he'll shout about "That treacherous Dan!" who has been [[spoiler: blackmailing him with that information. Summer is at the Dusk because 'Dan' told him to wait there.]] Who else do we know who's named Dan - and is shady enough to not be above a little blackmail and extortion?
(And why would they reuse the name if it weren't important? The only other time a name in Hotel Dusk has been duplicated is [[spoiler: in the case of Bradley's deceased sister also being named Mila]], which is a MAJOR PLOT POINT. This is important.
(And why would they reuse the name if it weren't important? The only other time a name in Hotel Dusk has been duplicated is [[spoiler: in the case of Bradley's deceased sister also being named Mila]], which is a MAJOR PLOT POINT. This is important.
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After you've almost gotten Summer to tell you why he's at the Dusk, and admit [[spoiler: that he plagiarized his first book from his gifted friend Alan]], Alan, he'll shout about "That treacherous Dan!" who has been [[spoiler: blackmailing him with that information. Summer is at the Dusk because 'Dan' told him to wait there.]] Who else do we know who's named Dan - and is shady enough to not be above a little blackmail and extortion?
(And why would they reuse the name if it weren't important? The only other time a name in Hotel Dusk has been duplicated is[[spoiler: in the case of Bradley's deceased sister also being named Mila]], Mila, which is a MAJOR PLOT POINT. This is important.
(And why would they reuse the name if it weren't important? The only other time a name in Hotel Dusk has been duplicated is
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Look at what Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the rectangular/oval shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. The time frame suggests the Vietnam War (Danny was killed in 1979, definitely could have been around the right age), but not necessarily. And Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments and Tearjerker.
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Look at what Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the rectangular/oval shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. The time frame suggests the Vietnam War (Danny was killed in 1979, definitely could have been around the right age), but not necessarily. And Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments and Tearjerker.
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[[WMG: The sequel, Last Window, isn't canon. it's a book, written by none other than [[spoiler: Martin Summers!]]]]
Okay. According to sources at ''[[http://community.livejournal.com/red_crown/profile Red Crown]]'', at some point, [[spoiler: a book, called 'The Last Window', appears. It's written by Martin Summers.]] Also, remember the promise Martin makes to Kyle at the end of Dusk? [[spoiler:"I shall model the protagonist after yourself!"]] Also, [[spoiler: no characters Martin Summers did not/could not have known about return, according to the sources we have so far. (The only exception is Rachel. However, if Martin ever telephoned Red Crown to give Kyle a message, he would have been able to speak to her.) Martin would not know that Mila decided to stay with Kyle.]] He would not know about Bradley, either. Besides, it's hard to imagine Kyle not still chasing Bradley or [[spoiler:abandoning Mila]] less than a year after the events of Dusk. It's almost impossible to imagine Kyle doing both in such little time.
* Kyle [[spoiler: gave up on the hunt for Bradley. By the events of Last Window, he already knows Bradley's motive]].
* [[spoiler:Abandoning Mila? She went to art school in Seattle.]]
Okay. According to sources at ''[[http://community.livejournal.com/red_crown/profile Red Crown]]'', at some point, [[spoiler: a book, called 'The Last Window', appears. It's written by Martin Summers.]] Also, remember the promise Martin makes to Kyle at the end of Dusk? [[spoiler:"I shall model the protagonist after yourself!"]] Also, [[spoiler: no characters Martin Summers did not/could not have known about return, according to the sources we have so far. (The only exception is Rachel. However, if Martin ever telephoned Red Crown to give Kyle a message, he would have been able to speak to her.) Martin would not know that Mila decided to stay with Kyle.]] He would not know about Bradley, either. Besides, it's hard to imagine Kyle not still chasing Bradley or [[spoiler:abandoning Mila]] less than a year after the events of Dusk. It's almost impossible to imagine Kyle doing both in such little time.
* Kyle [[spoiler: gave up on the hunt for Bradley. By the events of Last Window, he already knows Bradley's motive]].
* [[spoiler:Abandoning Mila? She went to art school in Seattle.]]
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Summers!]]
Okay. According to sources at ''[[http://community.livejournal.com/red_crown/profile Red Crown]]'', at some point,[[spoiler: a book, called 'The Last Window', appears. It's written by Martin Summers.]] Also, remember the promise Martin makes to Kyle at the end of Dusk? [[spoiler:"I "I shall model the protagonist after yourself!"]] yourself!" Also, [[spoiler: no characters Martin Summers did not/could not have known about return, according to the sources we have so far. (The only exception is Rachel. However, if Martin ever telephoned Red Crown to give Kyle a message, he would have been able to speak to her.) Martin would not know that Mila decided to stay with Kyle.]] He would not know about Bradley, either. Besides, it's hard to imagine Kyle not still chasing Bradley or [[spoiler:abandoning Mila]] abandoning Mila less than a year after the events of Dusk. It's almost impossible to imagine Kyle doing both in such little time.
* Kyle[[spoiler: gave up on the hunt for Bradley. By the events of Last Window, he already knows Bradley's motive]].
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*[[spoiler:Abandoning Abandoning Mila? She went to art school in Seattle.]]
Okay. According to sources at ''[[http://community.livejournal.com/red_crown/profile Red Crown]]'', at some point,
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[[WMG:In Chapter 10's NonStandardGameOver, [[spoiler:Kyle doesn't actually die if he passes out in the basement]]]]
Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from Dunning or Louie (e.g. through CPR), and in the case of the latter saving him, Dunning confronts them soon afterwards and asks them what they were doing in the secret basement. While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
[[WMG: Robert Evans was [[spoiler:keeping Mila in a coma]]]]
Evans [[spoiler: visited Mila]] every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from Dunning or Louie (e.g. through CPR), and in the case of the latter saving him, Dunning confronts them soon afterwards and asks them what they were doing in the secret basement. While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
[[WMG: Robert Evans was [[spoiler:keeping Mila in a coma]]]]
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[[WMG:In Chapter 10's NonStandardGameOver, [[spoiler:Kyle Kyle doesn't actually die if he passes out in the basement]]]]
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Most likely,[[spoiler:he's he's revived with some help from Dunning or Louie (e.g. through CPR), and in the case of the latter saving him, Dunning confronts them soon afterwards and asks them what they were doing in the secret basement. While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
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Evans[[spoiler: visited Mila]] Mila every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] killed, the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
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Evans [[spoiler; visited Mila]] every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
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Evans [[spoiler; [[spoiler: visited Mila]] every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
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Evans [[spioler; visited Mila]] every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
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Evans [[spioler; [[spoiler; visited Mila]] every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
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Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from Dunning or Louie (e.g. through CPR), and in the case of the latter saving him, Dunning confronts them soon afterwards and asks them what they were doing in the secret basement. While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
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Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from Dunning or Louie (e.g. through CPR), and in the case of the latter saving him, Dunning confronts them soon afterwards and asks them what they were doing in the secret basement. While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]]]
[[WMG: Robert Evans was [[spoiler:keeping Mila in a coma]]]]
Evans [[spioler; visited Mila]] every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
[[WMG: Robert Evans was [[spoiler:keeping Mila in a coma]]]]
Evans [[spioler; visited Mila]] every month. He could easily have been drugging her so she would stay in a coma. The moment that [[spoiler: he's killed,]] the drugs stop coming so she wakes up.
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Look at what Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the rectangular/oval shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. The time frame suggests the Vietnam War (Danny was killed in 1979, definitely could have been around the right age), but not necessarily. And Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and Tearjerker.
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Look at what Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the rectangular/oval shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. The time frame suggests the Vietnam War (Danny was killed in 1979, definitely could have been around the right age), but not necessarily. And Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments and Tearjerker.
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[[WMG:In Chapter 10's NonStandardGameOver, [[spoiler:Kyle doesn't actually die if he passes out in the basement]].]]
Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from Dunning, either directly (such as through CPR) or through paramedic assistance (though admittedly unlikely, as the hotel seems to be in the middle of nowhere). While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from Dunning, either directly (such as through CPR) or through paramedic assistance (though admittedly unlikely, as the hotel seems to be in the middle of nowhere). While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
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[[WMG:In Chapter 10's NonStandardGameOver, [[spoiler:Kyle doesn't actually die if he passes out in the basement]].]]
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Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help fromDunning, either directly (such as Dunning or Louie (e.g. through CPR) or through paramedic assistance (though admittedly unlikely, as the hotel seems to be CPR), and in the middle case of nowhere).the latter saving him, Dunning confronts them soon afterwards and asks them what they were doing in the secret basement. While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from
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[[WMG:In Chapter 10's NonStandardGameOver, [[spoiler:Kyle doesn't actually die if he passes out in the basement]].]]
Most likely, [[spoiler:he's revived with some help from Dunning, either directly (such as through CPR) or through paramedic assistance (though admittedly unlikely, as the hotel seems to be in the middle of nowhere). While Dunning wouldn't let him die, he's still upset at Kyle being in places he shouldn't be in, and so kicks him out. This would explain why the player still gets the standard GameOver screen where Kyle's on the roadside standing next to his bags if they fail the objective.]]
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[[WMG: Kyle and Bradley are the same person.]]
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Also - look at Louie's old picture of him. Danny is wearing them in the picture- and Louie's wearing them now.
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[[WMG: Kyle is gay for Bradley.]]
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[[WMG: Kyle is gay for in love with Bradley.]]
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[[WMG: A quick theory to cover the last dangling plot threads about Grace and Iris.]]
Okay, this might be official, actually. But it seems that when Grace had Dunning paint the picture for her, it was in order to sell it to Nile or perhaps just some other collector, which is where she got the money to pay off Kevin's malpractice suit. Further, it appears that Iris and Grace's mother was on the same plane that had been carrying Dunning and Robert Evan's wives (we'll assume these are three separate women, don't need to get into any EpilepticTrees). Coincidences abound in Hotel Dusk.
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* Please remember this theory was written before Last Window was released in English (possibly even before the Japanese release), and very little information about the game was actually available. But, yeah, totally jossed.
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Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment - disrespectful and borderline homophobic. Be kind.
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* So america is gay for osama? But seriously, Bradley was his partner on the force who betrayed him and died and then signs into the hotel under kyle's name. He is so intent on finding him because he knows the more he learns about him after his "death", the more answers he can get. There is nothing homosexual about it at all, it's common sense detective work. All he needed was to get his answers (which he did), if he was actually gay for him (which he isn't at all), he would still be searching for him in hotel dusk (which he isnt, because he got all his answers and he is not even remotely homosexual at all, especially for bradley).
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Look at the thing Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the rectangular/oval shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type rather than serving in the Army, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and Tearjerker.
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Look at the thing what Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the rectangular/oval shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. The time frame suggests the Vietnam War (Danny was killed in 1979, definitely could have been around the right age), but not necessarily. And Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type rather than serving in the Army, type, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and Tearjerker.
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Look at the thing Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type rather than serving in the Army, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and Tearjerker.
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Look at the thing Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the rectangular/oval shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type rather than serving in the Army, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and Tearjerker.
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[[WMG: Danny was a Vietnam veteran.]]
Look at the thing Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type rather than serving in the Army, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and Tearjerker.
Look at the thing Louis is wearing around his neck through the whole game. It's definitely a pair of military dog tags - the shape and the way one hangs below the other is a dead giveaway. Since Louie seems more like the '"Run Away To Canada"' type rather than serving in the Army, it's a pretty safe bet that they belong to someone very important to him, who he'd want to keep a memento of. Aww. Simultaneous CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and Tearjerker.
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* Go through the game and replace the name "Bradley" with a girl's name. Kyle either sounds like a creepy stalker, or a lovestruck hero. Either way, if the gender was reversed, it would read as an ''entirely straight romance.'' HoYay AHOOOOYYY!
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* Go through the game and replace the name "Bradley" with a girl's name.name, in ''everything Kyle says, ever''. Kyle either sounds like a creepy stalker, or a lovestruck hero. Either way, if the gender was reversed, it would read as an ''entirely straight romance.'' HoYay AHOOOOYYY!
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* Go through the game and replace the name "Bradley" with a girl's name. Kyle either sounds like a creepy stalker, or a lovestruck hero. Either way, if the gender was reversed, it would read as an ''entirely straight romance.'' HoYay AHOOOOYYY!
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* So america is gay for osama? But seriously, Bradley was his partner on the force who betrayed him and died and then signs into the hotel under kyle's name. He is so intent on finding him because he knows the more he learns about him after his "death", the more answers he can get. There is nothing homosexual about it at all, it's common sense detective work. All he needed was to get his answers (which he did), if he was actually gay for him (which he isn't at all), he would still be searching for him in hotel dusk (which he isnt, because he got all his answers and he is not even remotely homosexual at all, especially for bradley).
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* [[spoiler:Abandoning Mila? She went to art school in Seattle.]]
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Danny intrigue!
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After you've almost gotten Summer to tell you why he's at the Dusk, and admit [[spoiler: that he plagiarized his first book from his gifted friend Alan]], he'll shout about "That treacherous Dan!" who has been [[spoiler: blackmailing him with that information. Summer is at the Dusk because 'Dan' told him to wait there.]] Who else do we know who's named Dan - and is shady enough to not be above a little blackmail and extortion?
(And why would they reuse the name if it weren't important? The only other time a name in Hotel Dusk has been duplicated is [[spoiler: in the case of Bradley's deceased sister also being named Mila]], which is a MAJOR PLOT POINT. This is important.
Did Danny send Summer to the dusk knowing he'd run into Louis - in the same way that Bradley guided Kyle there?
And it's made even more interesting when you take into consideration the photos of Hotel Dusk characters that appear in Another Code R - Louie appears at the lake with his arm around an unknown man who fanon speculates is actually Martin Summer. This would give them a connection that hasn't been explored yet... and lead to a mindblowing, bittersweet reunion in the future.
After you've almost gotten Summer to tell you why he's at the Dusk, and admit [[spoiler: that he plagiarized his first book from his gifted friend Alan]], he'll shout about "That treacherous Dan!" who has been [[spoiler: blackmailing him with that information. Summer is at the Dusk because 'Dan' told him to wait there.]] Who else do we know who's named Dan - and is shady enough to not be above a little blackmail and extortion?
(And why would they reuse the name if it weren't important? The only other time a name in Hotel Dusk has been duplicated is [[spoiler: in the case of Bradley's deceased sister also being named Mila]], which is a MAJOR PLOT POINT. This is important.
Did Danny send Summer to the dusk knowing he'd run into Louis - in the same way that Bradley guided Kyle there?
And it's made even more interesting when you take into consideration the photos of Hotel Dusk characters that appear in Another Code R - Louie appears at the lake with his arm around an unknown man who fanon speculates is actually Martin Summer. This would give them a connection that hasn't been explored yet... and lead to a mindblowing, bittersweet reunion in the future.