History VideoGame / SaGaFrontier2

5th Aug '17 6:49:12 AM ChrisX
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* NonIndicativeName: His name is Narcisse and he's... not at all [[TheNarcissist narcissistic.]]
5th Aug '17 6:32:50 AM ChrisX
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* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: If the player does Wil's scenarios that chronologically take place after ''Infiltrate! Alexei's Gang'' first before tackling that scenario, Cordelia will decline coming with Wil claiming that she's sick. [[spoiler:Cordelia would die if she's picked in this scenario, and since she has been recorded to be seen in future events in that playthrough, her dying there would cause a time paradox.]]
2nd Aug '17 4:59:12 AM NonoRobot
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* PlayingWithFire: Every character (except Gustave) can use fire anima, but some of them stand out, thanks to their high fire affinity and spells they join with. Such characters are Narcisse and Eleanor. Eleanor stands out the most, thanks to her ''very'' high fire affinity (20, which is, by the game standarts, an insanely high score).

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* PlayingWithFire: Every character (except Gustave) can use fire anima, but some of them stand out, thanks to their high fire affinity and spells they join with. Such characters are Narcisse and Eleanor. Eleanor stands out the most, thanks to her ''very'' high fire affinity (20, which is, by the game standarts, an insanely high score).starting affinity).
13th Apr '17 5:38:57 PM Gosicrystal
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* BagOfSharing: An NPC in Wil's hometown will allow you to switch inventories between teams, even ones who's never met and are separated by decades. You can also shared learned abilities across teams (and this is how you pick up one that would otherwise be LostForever).

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* BagOfSharing: An NPC in Wil's hometown will allow you to switch inventories between teams, even ones who's never met and are separated by decades. You can also shared share learned abilities across teams (and this is how you pick up one that would otherwise be LostForever).[[PermanentlyMissableContent lost for good]]).
26th Mar '17 1:27:04 PM nombretomado
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* OdaNobunaga: Gustave is basically a fantasy version of him with a much more tragic backstory. His life hits upon many of the same major beats as Nobunaga's.
9th Feb '17 2:01:31 PM morenohijazo
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* {{Technophobia}}: The majority of the characters, except Gustav and his army who use it and Iron Armour to make up for their lack of magic.
23rd Dec '16 3:13:32 PM NonoRobot
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* MarathonBoss: [[spoiler:The Egg]], full stop. See the entry about it under the trope page for more details.

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* MarathonBoss: The final boss of the game, [[spoiler:The Egg]], full stop. See and the entry about it under whole last dungeon. The final boss doesn't have a lot of HP (~60 000), but is empowered by his henchmen, the trope page for Anima Masters, which grants him special powers (such as healing or a OHKO move that can turn everyone to stone) and extra HP (which can more details.than double his initial HP) if you didn't defeat them earlier in the very last dungeon. The catch? They are skippable, in a dungeon where you can't go back to fight them once they have been skipped (something a player can't possibly guess before reaching the final boss). Only 4 of them can be challenged to a fight (technically, all 6 can be fought, but at the cost of having only 2 remaining party members for the final boss, something which isn't recommended), and among them are DuelBoss, which lead to the loss of the character who stay behind, in what seems to be HeroicSacrifice. On top of that, your party grows weaker and weaker after each fight, losing ManaPoints which are difficult to resplenish if you don't have in your inventory the correct items (which are useless for 99% of the game: you may have tossed them because of inventory limits, and you ''can't'' use them during a battle) which can lead them to be forced to [[CastFromHitPoints use their own life force in order to continue on fighting]]. True, [[HeroicRROD your characters do more damage the lower ManaPoints they have]], but doing so will kill them once they run of Life Points ([=LPs=]). Now, take into account that unless you are CrazyPrepared, you probably won't do more than 2000 damages to the final boss per turn, and that this boss loves to depletes your characters of their [=LPs=]. Oh, and your main character only have 14 [=LPs=], which means that unless you looted from one of the final boss's henchmen one of the only two items of the game which prevents you from losing [=LPs=] when taking a hit, you'll hit a game over once she runs out of these (mind you, all others characters may die in battle, you won't get a game over). [[ThatOneBoss So, basically, you're stuck in a very long battle, where you must take down the final boss before it takes '''you''' down, and in which some party members may die permanently if they run out of LPs]].
18th Sep '16 6:13:14 AM NonoRobot
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* DieForOurShip:
** Oddly, an OfficialCouple can fall victim to a form of this ''[[InUniverse in-game]]'': [[spoiler: if Wil sends Cordelia to complete the 'Inflitrate! Alexei Gang' scenario, she winds up KilledOffForReal, and Wil ends up with Labelle instead.]] [[invoked]] AllThereInTheManual has this option as canon; the family trees in the Perfect Works book have Wil married to [[spoiler:Labelle/Lavelle]]. WordOfGod mentioned that [[spoiler:Labelle]] was originally intended to be Wil's canonical wife, but because she was given too little development throughout the game it was deemed unacceptable.

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* DieForOurShip:
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DieForOurShip: Oddly, an OfficialCouple can fall victim to a form of this ''[[InUniverse in-game]]'': [[spoiler: if Wil sends Cordelia to complete the 'Inflitrate! Alexei Gang' scenario, she winds up KilledOffForReal, and Wil ends up with Labelle instead.]] [[invoked]] AllThereInTheManual has this option as canon; the family trees in the Perfect Works book have Wil married to [[spoiler:Labelle/Lavelle]]. WordOfGod mentioned that [[spoiler:Labelle]] was originally intended to be Wil's canonical wife, but because she was given too little development throughout the game it was deemed unacceptable.
18th Sep '16 6:10:49 AM NonoRobot
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* ArtifactOfDoom: The Egg, which is equal parts this, SealedEvilInACan, and EldritchAbomination.

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* ArtifactOfDoom: ArtifactOfDoom:
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The Egg, which is equal parts this, SealedEvilInACan, and EldritchAbomination.



* {{BFS}}: Gustave's Sword, both in story and gameplay. A blacksmith considered the ''idea'' of such a weapon simply monstrous, and gameplay wise, it's one of the most powerful weapons in the game. Unfortunately, only Gustave and Gustaf get to use it.

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* {{BFS}}: {{BFS}}:
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Gustave's Sword, both in story and gameplay. A blacksmith considered the ''idea'' of such a weapon simply monstrous, and gameplay wise, it's one of the most powerful weapons in the game. Unfortunately, only Gustave and Gustaf get to use it.



* DeadGuyJunior: Given that Gustave was born of nobility, he's the thirteenth of his line, and a few other characters share his name.
** To clarify: [[spoiler:Gustave XIV was his younger half-brother and died without children. Gustaf is the son of Philippe III, who is the son of Kelvin and ''Marie'', after the latter divorced Cantal.]]

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* DeadGuyJunior: Given that Gustave was born of nobility, he's the thirteenth of his line, and a few other characters share his name.
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name. To clarify: [[spoiler:Gustave XIV was his younger half-brother and died without children. Gustaf is the son of Philippe III, who is the son of Kelvin and ''Marie'', after the latter divorced Cantal.]]



* DieForOurShip: Oddly, an OfficialCouple can fall victim to a form of this ''[[InUniverse in-game]]'': [[spoiler: if Wil sends Cordelia to complete the 'Inflitrate! Alexei Gang' scenario, she winds up KilledOffForReal, and Wil ends up with Labelle instead.]] [[invoked]]
** AllThereInTheManual has this option as canon; the family trees in the Perfect Works book have Wil married to [[spoiler:Labelle/Lavelle]]
*** Actually, the official word on this is that [[spoiler: Labelle]] was originally intended to be Wil's canonical wife, but because she was given too little development throughout the game it was deemed unacceptable.

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* DieForOurShip: DieForOurShip:
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Oddly, an OfficialCouple can fall victim to a form of this ''[[InUniverse in-game]]'': [[spoiler: if Wil sends Cordelia to complete the 'Inflitrate! Alexei Gang' scenario, she winds up KilledOffForReal, and Wil ends up with Labelle instead.]] [[invoked]]
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[[invoked]] AllThereInTheManual has this option as canon; the family trees in the Perfect Works book have Wil married to [[spoiler:Labelle/Lavelle]]
*** Actually, the official word on this is
[[spoiler:Labelle/Lavelle]]. WordOfGod mentioned that [[spoiler: Labelle]] [[spoiler:Labelle]] was originally intended to be Wil's canonical wife, but because she was given too little development throughout the game it was deemed unacceptable.



* GameplayAndStorySegregation: Johan tells Gustave that "even in my weakened condition, I can still fight far better than you!" and Gustave agrees to leave the fight in his hands. Wait, what? Is he talking to [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking the same Gustave?]] The most formidable user of Weapon Arts in the entire world? The king [[spoiler: who goes monster-hunting in the middle of a pirate-ridden ViceCity]] because he's ''bored''?
** Well, technically Johan is actually telling that to one of the others who is only really good at spell arts, it's just that Gustave decides to let him handle it anyway. Though it is rather annoying that we have to play as Johan, especially since he has low stats unless you play the scenario entitled 'Johan the Assassin' and visit several towns and do some grinding.
*** Johan IS dying, to be absolutely fair. In spite of that he does only a bit less damage than Gustave and far, far more than Ventarbre. What screws him over is low durability, but again, DYING. It'd be odd if he had awesome durability like Gustave given how he wears light armor AND is dead on his feet.
** Also, the fact that Gustave isn't allowed to take the field in this battle, because it's quite likely that a player-controlled Gustave would be able to wipe out an endless line of monsters singlehandedly [[spoiler: and he has to die to kick off the rest of the plot]].

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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: GameplayAndStorySegregation:
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Johan tells Gustave that "even in my weakened condition, I can still fight far better than you!" and Gustave agrees to leave the fight in his hands. Wait, what? Is he talking to [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking the same Gustave?]] The most formidable user of Weapon Arts in the entire world? The king [[spoiler: who goes monster-hunting in the middle of a pirate-ridden ViceCity]] because he's ''bored''?
** Well, technically Johan is actually telling that to one of the others who is only really good at spell arts, it's just that Gustave decides to let him handle it anyway. Though it is rather annoying that we have to play as Johan, especially since he has low stats unless you play the scenario entitled 'Johan the Assassin' and visit several towns and do some grinding.
*** Johan IS dying, to be absolutely fair. In spite of that he does only a bit less damage than Gustave and far, far more than Ventarbre. What screws him over is low durability, but again, DYING. It'd be odd if he had awesome durability like Gustave given how he wears light armor AND is dead on his feet.
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''bored''? Also, the fact that Gustave isn't allowed to take the field in this battle, because it's quite likely that a player-controlled Gustave would be able to wipe out an endless line of monsters singlehandedly [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and he has to die to kick off the rest of the plot]].



* GrayAndGreyMorality: The wars between the aristocrats are fought for perfectly good political reasons.
** TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil: [[spoiler: The Egg is an EldritchAbomination ArtifactOfDoom. When it gets involved in the wars, the other nobles form a worldwide alliance to defeat the Fake Gustave's army.]]

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* GrayAndGreyMorality: The wars between the aristocrats are fought for perfectly good political reasons.
** TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil:
reasons. Eventually, it leads to a TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil situation: [[spoiler: The Egg is an EldritchAbomination ArtifactOfDoom. When it gets involved in the wars, the other nobles form a worldwide alliance to defeat the Fake Gustave's army.]]



* InfinityMinusOneSword: Gustave's sword. Gustaf inherits Gustave's sword and Firebrand, an ''another'' InfinityMinusOneSword (though this sword is less powerful than Gustave's sword, so Firebrand is in fact utterly useless to Gustaf, except for providing Fire Anima and balancing the negative effects of having a steel weapon equiped, since Firebrand remains a very powerful Quell, the only weapon actually to provide a bonus of +2 to SP Regen, which cancels the -2 SP Regen Malus of Gustave's sword). Actually, with his two weapons slots occupied, Gustaf can't equip the InfinityPlusOneSword of the game, or any other weapons for that matter, which prevents him, an already powerful character in his own right, to achieve a GameBreaker status.
** Not necessarily, as Gustaf is still an insanely powerful character and can still be trained to be an absolute beast of Sword Arts and certain Anima Arts.

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* InfinityMinusOneSword: Gustave's sword. Gustaf inherits Gustave's sword and Firebrand, an ''another'' InfinityMinusOneSword (though this sword is less powerful than Gustave's sword, so Firebrand is in fact utterly useless to Gustaf, except for providing Fire Anima and balancing the negative effects of having a steel weapon equiped, since Firebrand remains a very powerful Quell, the only weapon actually to provide a bonus of +2 to SP Regen, which cancels the -2 SP Regen Malus of Gustave's sword). Actually, with his two weapons slots occupied, Gustaf can't equip the InfinityPlusOneSword of the game, or any other weapons for that matter, which prevents him, an already very powerful character in his own right, to achieve a GameBreaker status.
** Not necessarily, as Gustaf is still an insanely powerful character and can still be trained to be an absolute beast of Sword Arts and certain Anima Arts.
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* MagicKnight: Most fighters are trained in using both Spell Arts and Weapon Arts, to a greater or lesser extent. The biggest exceptions are steel warriors, who go all-in on Weapon Arts (and completely overmatch magic users).
** Gustaf is pretty much guaranteed to be this, as the wielder of both Firebrand (the ultimate Fire Quell) and Gustave's Sword (the most powerful steel weapon). He also can use all 6 types or anima with ease (something only a few others characters could achieve: Rich Knights, Cielmer, Ventarbre and Johan).

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* MagicKnight: MagicKnight:
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Most fighters are trained in using both Spell Arts and Weapon Arts, to a greater or lesser extent. The biggest exceptions are steel warriors, who go all-in on Weapon Arts (and completely overmatch magic users).
** Gustaf is pretty much guaranteed to be this, as the wielder of both Firebrand (the ultimate Fire Quell) and Gustave's Sword (the most powerful steel weapon). He also can use all 6 types or anima with ease (something ease, something only a few others characters could achieve: Rich Knights, Cielmer, Ventarbre and Johan).Johan.



* YouShallNotPass: The hardest battle in the game is surviving for eight turns against steel troops with an army full of RedShirts. (In Wil's scenario, you find out that Gustaf eventually showed up to [[BigDamnHeroes reinforce your side]], but you never get to use him as a unit in that particular battle.)

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* YouShallNotPass: YouShallNotPass:
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The hardest war battle in the game is surviving for eight turns against steel troops with an army full of RedShirts. (In In Wil's scenario, you find out that Gustaf eventually showed up to [[BigDamnHeroes reinforce your side]], but you never get to use him as a unit in that particular battle.)



** Also, [[spoiler: Johan the Assassin's]] last stand. He plants himself in front of the room [[spoiler: Gustave]] is in and singlehandedly holds off an entire army, racking up a kill count in the hundreds before succumbing to the deadly poison he was infected with.

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** Also, [[spoiler: Johan [[spoiler:Johan the Assassin's]] last stand. He plants himself in front of the room [[spoiler: Gustave]] [[spoiler:Gustave]] is in and singlehandedly holds off an entire army, racking up a kill count in the hundreds before succumbing to the deadly poison he was infected with.
8th Aug '16 4:16:26 AM Ramidel
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* AnAxeToGrind: Few are the characters to actually wield with efficiency this weapon. Among them are Tyler (generation 1), Patrick (generation 1 and 2), Primiera and Meythia (both generation 3).

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* AnAxeToGrind: Few are the characters to actually can efficiently wield with efficiency this weapon. Among them are Tyler (generation 1), Patrick (generation 1 and 2), Primiera and Meythia (both generation 3). On the other hand, axes are the most powerful weapon available to Wil's side of the game early on, so some players accept a lack of affinity and just use a flint axe anyway.



* BadassFamily: The Knight family definitely deserves a mention, as they span three generations worth of adventurers and heroes.

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* BadassFamily: The Knight Knights family definitely deserves a mention, as they span three generations worth of adventurers and heroes.
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