History VideoGame / PhantomBrave

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* {{Lolicon}}: Carona accuses Ash of this, but it was made obvious previously that she's jealous of his loving relationship with Marona and very, very bitter. (Also, you really don't get more ChasteHero than Ash.)
11th Aug '17 8:42:10 PM Luigifan
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* AllThereInTheManual: Why on Earth did [[spoiler:Sulphur come back as a bonus boss?]] Well, the game itself implies that it's AsLongAsThereIsEvil, however [[spoiler:meeting a certain BonusBoss in ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'' reveals that the dimension-crossing ghost witch Lujei from ''VideoGame/GrimGrimoire'' sent him back for giggles. So chances are he's just plain dead now. Which makes the overly complicated in-story plan to get rid of him rather tragic; since it resulted in a couple of HeroicSacrifice. Although Lujei did heal Walnut for giggles too.]]

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* AllThereInTheManual: Why on Earth did [[spoiler:Sulphur come back as a bonus boss?]] Well, the game itself implies that it's AsLongAsThereIsEvil, however AsLongAsThereIsEvil; however, [[spoiler:meeting a certain BonusBoss in ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'' reveals that the dimension-crossing ghost witch Lujei from ''VideoGame/GrimGrimoire'' sent him back for giggles. So chances are he's just plain dead now. Which makes the overly complicated in-story plan to get rid of him rather tragic; tragic, since it resulted in a couple of HeroicSacrifice. Although Lujei did heal Walnut for giggles too.]]



*** ...which doesn't stop her cameoing in Disgaea games.

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*** ...which doesn't stop her cameoing in Disgaea ''Disgaea'' games.



** The elder of Desert Island seemingly doesn't know about Marona's infamous reputation, but at the end of the day, he refuses to pay for her services because she stopped [[spoiler:a possessed Bijou instead of the real Raphael]], brushing it off as an accident of his part. [[spoiler:Raphael, disgusted by his treatment to Marona, decides to ''really'' rain hell on the island]].

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** The elder of Desert Island seemingly doesn't know about Marona's infamous reputation, but at the end of the day, he refuses to pay for her services because she stopped [[spoiler:a possessed Bijou instead of the real Raphael]], brushing it off as an accident of his part. [[spoiler:Raphael, disgusted by his treatment to Marona, decides to ''really'' rain hell on the island]].island.]]



** In a mild subversion of the norm, [[spoiler:Baal is ''not'' the final BonusBoss and you can, in fact, recruit him. The ''true'' final BonusBoss is MythologyGag Pringer X.]]
*** The remake goes SerialEscalation with [[spoiler:Pringer XX and Pringer XXX.]]
** At a certain point, you are given the choice to open a bottle by the Putties. Doing so [[spoiler: will release Laharl from it. Due to the world's EvilPowerVacuum, he tries to appoint himself ruler and tries to make the protagonists his Vassals.]]
** The PSP port adds in [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/MakaiKingdom Zetta]], Castille reusing the sprite from her ''Makai Kingdom'' character, [[VideoGame/PrinnyCanIReallyBeTheHero the Hero Prinny]], the Unlosing Ranger, and Asagi as well.]]

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** In a mild subversion of the norm, [[spoiler:Baal is ''not'' the final BonusBoss and you can, in fact, recruit him. The ''true'' final BonusBoss is MythologyGag Pringer X.]]
X]].
*** The remake goes SerialEscalation with [[spoiler:Pringer XX and Pringer XXX.]]
XXX]].
** At a certain point, you are given the choice to open a bottle by the Putties. Doing so [[spoiler: will [[spoiler:will release Laharl from it. Due to the world's EvilPowerVacuum, he tries to appoint himself ruler and tries to make the protagonists his Vassals.]]
** The PSP port adds in [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/MakaiKingdom Zetta]], Castille reusing (reusing the sprite from her ''Makai Kingdom'' character, character), [[VideoGame/PrinnyCanIReallyBeTheHero the Hero Prinny]], the Unlosing Ranger, and Asagi as well.]]



** In the Wii and PSP versions, [[spoiler: [[AnotherSideAnotherStory Another Marona]] takes Marona not having Ash around to its logical conclusion.]]

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** In the Wii and PSP versions, [[spoiler: [[AnotherSideAnotherStory [[spoiler:[[AnotherSideAnotherStory Another Marona]] takes Marona not having Ash around to its logical conclusion.]]conclusion]].



* TheComputerIsACheatingBastard: take a closer inspection at Turn Order. If one of your patented strategies is to attack an enemy that will move first, there's a good chance that, even if that enemy is K.O.'ed, another enemy will take that turn.

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* TheComputerIsACheatingBastard: take Take a closer inspection at Turn Order. If one of your patented strategies is to attack an enemy that will move first, there's a good chance that, even if that enemy is K.O.'ed, another enemy will take that turn.



* CrapsaccharineWorld: The "cute" characters in the game are crippled, yelled at by angry villagers, are the angry villagers themselves, are harmless fools [[spoiler: [[DemonicPossession who get possessed by fragments of demonic souls]]]]...and that's not getting into the Putties, who are locked into cages or transported into circuses despite being fully sentient because, well, they can't talk. There's a thousand other things, and if not for the graphics and the music this would probably be a CrapsackWorld.

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* CrapsaccharineWorld: The "cute" characters in the game are crippled, yelled at by angry villagers, are the angry villagers themselves, are harmless fools [[spoiler: [[DemonicPossession [[spoiler:[[DemonicPossession who get possessed by fragments of demonic souls]]]]...and that's not getting into the Putties, who are locked into cages or transported into circuses despite being fully sentient because, well, they can't talk. There's a thousand other things, and if not for the graphics and the music this would probably be a CrapsackWorld.



** Marona can ([[SpitefulAI and the enemies ''will'']]), by attacking the "body" of one of her phantoms, Soul Kill them. She can still reconstitute it by sacrificing an object (and with a certain item, make the soul stronger). It is implied by dialogue (the evil has lifted and peace fills the air) that this is the right thing to do with Baal when it joins the party after you defeat it as a BonusBoss.

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** Marona can ([[SpitefulAI and the enemies ''will'']]), enemies]] ''[[SpitefulAI will]]''), by attacking the "body" of one of her phantoms, Soul Kill them. She can still reconstitute it by sacrificing an object (and with a certain item, make the soul stronger). It is implied by dialogue (the evil has lifted and peace fills the air) that this is the right thing to do with Baal when it joins the party after you defeat it as a BonusBoss.



* DiabolusExNihilo: Sulphur is a demonic monster that nearly killed everyone 30 years ago before being stopped by Scarlet the Brave and now its coming back. Nobody knows or asks its origins.

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* DiabolusExNihilo: Sulphur is a demonic monster that nearly killed everyone 30 years ago before being stopped by Scarlet the Brave Brave, and now its it's coming back. Nobody knows or asks its origins.



* DumpStat: Per NipponIchi tradition, DEF and RES become nigh-useless against most post-game enemies, primarily the [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]], reuducing those battles into OneHitKO affairs.

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* DumpStat: Per NipponIchi tradition, DEF and RES become nigh-useless against most post-game enemies, primarily the [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]], reuducing reducing those battles into OneHitKO affairs.



* EldritchAbomination: Sulphur. His mere presence causes numerous monsters to start appearing, and the closer he comes to reviving, the more of his monsters start appearing [[spoiler: and he feeds on hatred and can use it to revive himself if somebody manages to kill him.]]
* EverythingsEvenWorseWithSharks: Subverted. Cauldron, the shark man gives Marona way more money than he promised, forms a fan club for her, and beats up anyone that bad mouths her.

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* EldritchAbomination: Sulphur. His mere presence causes numerous monsters to start appearing, and the closer he comes to reviving, the more of his monsters start appearing [[spoiler: and appearing, [[spoiler:and he feeds on hatred and can use it to revive himself if somebody manages to kill him.]]
him]].
* EverythingsEvenWorseWithSharks: Subverted. Cauldron, the shark man man, gives Marona way more money than he promised, forms a fan club for her, and beats up anyone that bad mouths badmouths her.



* FightingAShadow: Wraith is the shadow of Sulphur, and so are the smaller "Summon" monsters. It's assumed Sulphur himself is this when fought as a BonusBoss [[spoiler:but apparently he is just destroyed.]]
** Or at least, he will be when [[spoiler:Carona finds her Sprout who can destroy the Magenta Core; since the Sulphur in all the AlternateUniverse is the same one; projected from the Core.]]

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* FightingAShadow: Wraith is the shadow of Sulphur, and so are the smaller "Summon" monsters. It's assumed Sulphur himself is this when fought as a BonusBoss [[spoiler:but apparently he is just destroyed.]]
destroyed]].
** Or at least, he will be when [[spoiler:Carona finds her Sprout who can destroy the Magenta Core; since the Sulphur in all the AlternateUniverse is the same one; one, projected from the Core.]]Core]].



* GenreBusting: There's really never been a strategy game quite like this before or since; the dependence on items already in the field to summon your allies is unique in itself, to say nothing of the dozen-or-so wrinkles that come from this such as the fact that [[ImprovisedWeapon anything can be used as a weapon, including other units]] or that anything (or anyone) can be merged.

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* GenreBusting: There's really never been a strategy game quite like this before or since; the dependence on items already in the field to summon your allies is unique in itself, to say nothing of the dozen-or-so wrinkles that come from this this, such as the fact that [[ImprovisedWeapon anything can be used as a weapon, including other units]] or that anything (or anyone) can be merged.



* IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace: The Island of Evil; where Marona's parents were killed; we read about it in newspapers as a location where TotalPartyKill is common.

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* IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace: The Island of Evil; Evil, where Marona's parents were killed; we read about it in newspapers as a location where TotalPartyKill is common.



* ImprobableWeaponUser: ''Everyone.'' There's no almost limited to what anybody can use. Rocks, trees, cacti, their allies, and even their enemies can be used as weapon.

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* ImprobableWeaponUser: ''Everyone.'' There's no almost limited limit to what anybody can use. Rocks, trees, cacti, their allies, and even their enemies can be used as weapon.



* InfinityPlusOneSword: ANYTHING can be this; given Marona's ability to fuse items; however the BraggingRightsReward would be the Divine Sword. There's ''roughly'' a 30% chance of you fighting a God at the bottom of a [[RandomlyGeneratedLevels Random Dungeon.]] If you did 99 Dungeon levels in a row without ever exiting the dungeon, there is a 10-16% chance it will have a Divine Sword. You still need to be able to steal it and Confine it though.

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* InfinityPlusOneSword: ANYTHING can be this; this, given Marona's ability to fuse items; however however, the BraggingRightsReward would be the Divine Sword. There's ''roughly'' a 30% chance of you fighting a God at the bottom of a [[RandomlyGeneratedLevels Random Dungeon.]] If you did 99 Dungeon levels in a row without ever exiting the dungeon, there is a 10-16% chance it will have a Divine Sword. You still need to be able to steal it and Confine it it, though.



** One of the Indigo writers is utterly biased into making wild theories that tarnish Marona everywhere she goes and makes every attempt to blame her of the incidents even if she put an end for good reasons. [[spoiler:He is fired by the end of the game]].

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** One of the Indigo writers is utterly biased into making wild theories that tarnish Marona everywhere she goes and makes every attempt to blame her of the incidents incidents, even if she put an end for good reasons. [[spoiler:He is fired by the end of the game]].game.]]



** Ash and Marona both start with them in their actual skill list. "Chartreuse Gale", Marona's special skill actually lets her...see and summon phantoms.

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** Ash and Marona both start with them in their actual skill list. "Chartreuse Gale", Marona's special skill skill, actually lets her...see and summon phantoms.



** The Putty Smith, Scrabbit, Manticore, and [[spoiler: Prinny]] are this by default, ignoring skill grading.

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** The Putty Smith, Scrabbit, Manticore, and [[spoiler: Prinny]] [[spoiler:Prinny]] are this by default, ignoring skill grading.



* JokeCharacter: The Granny and Old Man classes have ''horrible stat growth'' in every area; and "F" rank in almost every kind of skill. (And the skills they have "E" rank in work against what little of a stat set-up they have) While each of them have a Passive skill they can use on Phantom Isle, [[note]]The Granny can bake cookies which can lower a character's Dark Points a bit; while the Old Man can grant EXP to random objects.[[/note]] neither of these skills are frequent or useful enough to justify them taking up a character slot. Oh, and they can only stay on the battlefield for 2 turns. Most units can manage 3 or 4.

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* JokeCharacter: The Granny and Old Man classes have ''horrible stat growth'' in every area; and "F" rank in almost every kind of skill. (And the skills they have "E" rank in work against what little of a stat set-up they have) have.) While each of them have a Passive skill they can use on Phantom Isle, [[note]]The Granny can bake cookies which can lower a character's Dark Points a bit; while the Old Man can grant EXP to random objects.[[/note]] neither of these skills are frequent or useful enough to justify them taking up a character slot. Oh, and they can only stay on the battlefield for 2 turns. Most units can manage 3 or 4.



* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Most of the [=NPCs=] who treat Marona terribly for most of the game get away with it by swapping to her side when it turns out only she has the power to defeat Sulphur, and their bad acts go free (though Marona prefers it that way). President Hogg is an exception to this rule, as at the end he atones by vowing to find a cure to IllGirl Castille's handicap. Walnut also...[[HeroicSacrifice atones properly.]]]]
* KarmaMeter: Exists, yet it's effect on the plot is almost nil. Killing your own characters will result in a build-up of "Dark Points" for these characters. Mostly bad for PlayerMooks, too many and they'll go nuts and hurt your own characters in-between stages. (Neither Ash nor Marona are ever affected by this.) Full dark points actually grants the title "Blsphm" (sic) and the Dark Eboreus Ability (not the strongest ability or title, but still). Dark Points can be cured with cookies. No, really. The "Granny" class has a random chance of baking cookies for a character which reduces Dark Points.

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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Most [[spoiler:Most of the [=NPCs=] who treat Marona terribly for most of the game get away with it by swapping to her side when it turns out only she has the power to defeat Sulphur, and their bad acts go free (though Marona prefers it that way). President Hogg is an exception to this rule, as at the end he atones by vowing to find a cure to IllGirl Castille's handicap. Walnut also...[[HeroicSacrifice atones properly.]]]]
* KarmaMeter: Exists, yet it's its effect on the plot is almost nil. Killing your own characters will result in a build-up of "Dark Points" for these characters. Mostly bad for PlayerMooks, too many and they'll go nuts and hurt your own characters in-between stages. (Neither Ash nor Marona are ever affected by this.) Full dark points actually grants the title "Blsphm" (sic) and the Dark Eboreus Ability (not the strongest ability or title, but still). Dark Points can be cured with cookies. No, really. The "Granny" class has a random chance of baking cookies for a character which reduces Dark Points.



* LaserBlade: A Divine Sword on the the ground is just a tubular handle; once a character picks one up; it extends.

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* LaserBlade: A Divine Sword on the the ground is just a tubular handle; once a character picks one up; up, it extends.



* LethalJokeCharacter: Even character classes that have horrible combat abilities across the board have their uses; Bottle Mails (literally walking bottles) don't fight well but have a very high chance of taking items to which they are confined away with them to Phantom Island, so if you ''need'' that item you're more likely to get it. Slimes are unimpressive except that they have 100% compatibility during fusion, allowing you to mix and mash abilities into one, then fuse the Slime into Marona or Ash. The Old Man's ability to randomly grant EXP can level up weapons without expending mana, and so on.

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* LethalJokeCharacter: Even character classes that have horrible combat abilities across the board have their uses; Bottle Mails (literally walking bottles) don't fight well but have a very high chance of taking items to which they are confined away with them to Phantom Island, so if you ''need'' that item item, you're more likely to get it. Slimes are unimpressive except that they have 100% compatibility during fusion, allowing you to mix and mash match abilities into one, then fuse the Slime into Marona or Ash. The Old Man's ability to randomly grant EXP can level up weapons without expending mana, and so on.



* LoopholeAbuse: [[spoiler:After you defeat Bijou, the werewolf who's been impersonating Raphael the Invincible]], on Desert Island, the Elder refuses to pay Marona, on the grounds that the job was to "defeat Raphael", not [[spoiler:"defeat the imposter"]]. This comes back to bite him almost immediately, though, as [[spoiler:the ''real'' Raphael (who is, at this point, one of the few people in Ivoire with genuine respect for Marona) overhears the exchange and starts tearing up the place to teach them a lesson which also ends up starting the problem the elder though was happening in the beginning]].
* MadeOfEvil: Sulphur, while we don't know what he is or where he came, he seems to be this [[spoiler: since after he's defeated by Sprout, he feeds on Sprout's hatred and possess him, and even after Sprout's HeroicSacrifice, he's able to come back.]]

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* LoopholeAbuse: [[spoiler:After you defeat Bijou, the werewolf who's been impersonating Raphael the Invincible]], on Desert Island, the Elder refuses to pay Marona, on the grounds that the job was to "defeat Raphael", not [[spoiler:"defeat the imposter"]]. This comes back to bite him almost immediately, though, as [[spoiler:the ''real'' Raphael (who is, at this point, one of the few people in Ivoire with genuine respect for Marona) overhears the exchange and starts tearing up the place to teach them a lesson lesson, which also ends up starting the problem the elder though thought was happening in the beginning]].
* MadeOfEvil: Sulphur, while we don't know what he is or where he came, he seems to be this [[spoiler: since [[spoiler:since after he's defeated by Sprout, he feeds on Sprout's hatred and possess possesses him, and even after Sprout's HeroicSacrifice, he's able to come back.]]back]].



** Somewhat subverted due to the Bonus Point system but; quite a few of the game's "helper" classes that assist you in Phantom Isle (such as the Merchant and Dungeon Monk) tend to suck when used in battle. The Merchant's speed is her only statistically redeeming quality while the [[JokeCharacter Old Man and Granny's]] combat stats (what little there are) actually work against what little Skill specialties they have. The Dungeon Monk's main use is his "Return" ability to get out of Random Dungeons, and even then, you can simply fuse the ability to Marona.
* MeaningfulName: There's a purple Scrabbit named "Murasaki" - Japanese for "purple". [[spoiler:Also, the two characters who absolutely hate Marona the most are nuts -- Filbert and Walnut.]]

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** Somewhat subverted due to the Bonus Point system but; system, but quite a few of the game's "helper" classes that assist you in Phantom Isle (such as the Merchant and Dungeon Monk) tend to suck when used in battle. The Merchant's speed is her only statistically redeeming quality while the [[JokeCharacter Old Man and Granny's]] combat stats (what little there are) actually work against what little Skill specialties they have. The Dungeon Monk's main use is his "Return" ability to get out of Random Dungeons, and even then, you can simply fuse the ability to Marona.
* MeaningfulName: There's a purple Scrabbit named "Murasaki" - -- Japanese for "purple". [[spoiler:Also, the two characters who absolutely hate Marona the most are nuts -- Filbert and Walnut.]]



* {{Necromancer}}: Marona goes without the skull fetishes most have; her phantoms are also tidier than most. There ''is'' a traditional one that create ghosts and zombies who is a mercenary leader in the plot.

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* {{Necromancer}}: Marona goes without the skull fetishes most have; her phantoms are also tidier than most. There ''is'' a traditional one that create creates ghosts and zombies who is a mercenary leader in the plot.



** Castille: [[spoiler:trapped in ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'']] as a servant [[spoiler: of Zetta]] after a [[spoiler: failed attempt to find Walnut's soul.]] She returns to Ivoire in ''Phantom Brave Portable,'' meaning Zetta either sent her back or she found a way out.
** Walnut: [[spoiler:Was not dead during the above search, but transported to the ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'' universe. Dies]] in most of the story paths, so possibly[[spoiler: dead now.]] Though it is worth noting that the endings of the main path seem only to differ mostly on what the main character is up to (and many of the endings are referenced in other ones), so he may[[spoiler: be alive at the end of the main story no matter the ending. The Demon and Median paths on the other hand...]]
** Marona: [[spoiler:Sucked into the ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'''s netherworld]] by Baal, has her [[spoiler: Childish Innocence]] stolen. [[spoiler:(Not physical rape, the mental aspect is actually removed.) Joins with Mao's group.]] But it's implied that Baal did not actually steal anything. So...

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** Castille: [[spoiler:trapped in ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'']] as a servant [[spoiler: of [[spoiler:of Zetta]] after a [[spoiler: failed [[spoiler:failed attempt to find Walnut's soul.]] soul]]. She returns to Ivoire in ''Phantom Brave Portable,'' meaning Zetta either sent her back or she found a way out.
** Walnut: [[spoiler:Was not dead during the above search, but transported to the ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'' universe. Dies]] in most of the story paths, so possibly[[spoiler: possibly [[spoiler: dead now.]] now]]. Though it is worth noting that the endings of the main path seem only to differ mostly on what the main character is up to (and many of the endings are referenced in other ones), so he may[[spoiler: be may [[spoiler:be alive at the end of the main story no matter the ending. The Demon and Median paths paths, on the other hand...]]
** Marona: [[spoiler:Sucked into the ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'''s netherworld]] by Baal, has her [[spoiler: Childish [[spoiler:Childish Innocence]] stolen. [[spoiler:(Not physical rape, the mental aspect is actually removed.) Joins with Mao's group.]] But it's implied that Baal did not actually steal anything. So...



** Ash: [[spoiler: Seen in ''Disgaea2'' VideoGameRemake {{DLC}} "Dark Hero Days". Where he went by ''Disgaea3'' isn't known.]]

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** Ash: [[spoiler: Seen [[spoiler:Seen in ''Disgaea2'' VideoGameRemake {{DLC}} "Dark Hero Days". Where he went by ''Disgaea3'' isn't known.]]



** Sulphur: [[spoiler: Sent back to Ivoire by [[VideoGame/GrimGrimoire Lujei Piche]], who also sent Walnut to the Soul Nomad universe. Sulphur apparently dies permanently as a BonusBoss;]] but the main characters are now paranoid that [[spoiler:he will come back as they don't know that part.]]

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** Sulphur: [[spoiler: Sent [[spoiler:Sent back to Ivoire by [[VideoGame/GrimGrimoire Lujei Piche]], who also sent Walnut to the Soul Nomad universe. Sulphur apparently dies permanently as a BonusBoss;]] but the main characters are now paranoid that [[spoiler:he will come back as they don't know that part.]]part]].



* OurWerewolvesAreDifferent: [[spoiler: Twice.]] Bijou (along with every other generic Werewolf in the game) is never seen in human form and is mostly portrayed as a one-man GoldfishPoopGang. Despite this, he rarely is portrayed as evil until [[spoiler:he is possessed.]] [[spoiler:Raphael, meanwhile, is impersonated twice by Bijou (successfully). While nowhere ingame does it state that he ''is'' a werewolf, it is heavily hinted at along with this and his troops, the White ''Wolf'' Army.]]

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* OurWerewolvesAreDifferent: [[spoiler: Twice.[[spoiler:Twice.]] Bijou (along with every other generic Werewolf in the game) is never seen in human form and is mostly portrayed as a one-man GoldfishPoopGang. Despite this, he rarely is portrayed as evil until [[spoiler:he is possessed.]] possessed]]. [[spoiler:Raphael, meanwhile, is impersonated twice by Bijou (successfully). While nowhere ingame does it state that he ''is'' a werewolf, it is heavily hinted at along with this and his troops, the White ''Wolf'' Army.]]



* RandomlyGeneratedLoot: As with other N1 titles, it gives items random stats. Naturally, it also has a system for leveling them up; You have to go into randomly generated dungeons to level up the titles (adjectives you can equip to an item or character) and fuse two items to increase the level cap.

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* RandomlyGeneratedLoot: As with other N1 titles, it gives items random stats. Naturally, it also has a system for leveling them up; up. You have to go into randomly generated dungeons to level up the titles (adjectives you can equip to an item or character) and fuse two items to increase the level cap.



** Also, there is a Golem on Frigidia Isle that Scarlet the Brave managed to Seal away. One of Marona's missions has them just checking on the seal; but she ends up just killing the thing.
* SealedInsideAPersonShapedCan: [[spoiler:Sprout attempted to do this, by filling himself with darkness and absorbing more and more of Sulphur's shadows. He couldn't stop it in the end, so committed suicide. Even that didn't kill Sulphur, but weakened it.]]

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** Also, there is a Golem on Frigidia Isle that Scarlet the Brave managed to Seal away. One of Marona's missions has them just checking on the seal; seal, but she ends up just killing the thing.
* SealedInsideAPersonShapedCan: [[spoiler:Sprout attempted to do this, by filling himself with darkness and absorbing more and more of Sulphur's shadows. He couldn't stop it in the end, so he committed suicide. Even that didn't kill Sulphur, but weakened it.]]



*** Marona's version of "Transmigration" is... messier than ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}''. You have to let a Phantom's HP be taken to 0, then its body needs to be destroyed. Then she can reconstitute its spirit with into a special item.

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*** Marona's version of "Transmigration" is... messier than ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}''. You have to let a Phantom's HP be taken to 0, then its body needs to be destroyed. Then she can reconstitute its spirit with into a special item.



* WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: This makes sense, actually. Since Marona is basically using SummonMagic; ''and'' is a living human, if she dies and all of her summoned Phantoms die and/or run out of turns, game over. Phantoms cannot permanently die as long as she's around to put them back together. Subverted in the [[MarathonLevel Dungeon Creator]]: if you manage to win that battle inside the dungeons even if Marona is knocked out, she will be resurrected at the next level, but with 1HP.

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* WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: This makes sense, actually. Since Marona is basically using SummonMagic; SummonMagic ''and'' is a living human, if she dies and all of her summoned Phantoms die and/or run out of turns, game over. Phantoms cannot permanently die as long as she's around to put them back together. Subverted in the [[MarathonLevel Dungeon Creator]]: if you manage to win that battle inside the dungeons dungeons, even if Marona is knocked out, she will be resurrected at the next level, but with 1HP.



* AGodAmI: Carona is accompanied by a Funguy who claims to be God. [[spoiler: He's really the Merchant of Death.]]

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* AGodAmI: Carona is accompanied by a Funguy who claims to be God. [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's really the Merchant of Death.]]



* DumbMuscle: [[spoiler:The side of Sprout you see when he's not [[HeWhoFightsMonsters running around trying to kill Sulphur and his minions]]]]

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* DumbMuscle: [[spoiler:The side of Sprout you see when he's not [[HeWhoFightsMonsters running around trying to kill Sulphur and his minions]]]]minions]].]]



* EvilTwin: Part of Carona's training is [[spoiler:having the new cast fight their old bodies; with the shadows of Sulphur confined within them.]]

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* EvilTwin: Part of Carona's training is [[spoiler:having the new cast fight their old bodies; bodies, with the shadows of Sulphur confined within them.]]them]].



* {{Flanderization}}: [[spoiler:Sprout, whose primary trait goes from BadassGrandpa to DumbMuscle. In the primary story the latter is just barely visible.]]

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* {{Flanderization}}: [[spoiler:Sprout, whose primary trait goes from BadassGrandpa to DumbMuscle. In the primary story story, the latter is just barely visible.]]



* HopelessBossFight: Though when you first face Carona she isn't terribly overpowered (but instead has an army of {{Mooks}} to face you), the next cutscene assumes she's beaten you. Comes with a bit of GameplayAndStorySegregation as many players will face her in a NewGamePlus, where she is easily defeatable.

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* HopelessBossFight: Though when you first face Carona Carona, she isn't terribly overpowered (but instead has an army of {{Mooks}} to face you), the next cutscene assumes she's beaten you. Comes with a bit of GameplayAndStorySegregation GameplayAndStorySegregation, as many players will face her in a NewGamePlus, where she is easily defeatable.



* {{Lolicon}}: Carona accuses Ash of this; but it was made obvious previously that she's jealous of his loving relationship with Marona and very, very bitter. (Also, you really don't get more ChasteHero than Ash.)

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* {{Lolicon}}: Carona accuses Ash of this; this, but it was made obvious previously that she's jealous of his loving relationship with Marona and very, very bitter. (Also, you really don't get more ChasteHero than Ash.)



* TheManBehindTheMan: [[spoiler:An interdimensional diabolist named "The Merchant Of Death" controls Sulphur with an evil artifact called the Magenta Core]].

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* TheManBehindTheMan: [[spoiler:An interdimensional diabolist named "The Merchant Of Death" controls Sulphur with an evil artifact called the Magenta Core]].Core.]]



* ThrowTheDogABone: [[spoiler:After Carona goes home; back to her lonely island; she gets a letter from Castille's father asking for help; implying that she will be befriended by Castille in her world as well.]]

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* ThrowTheDogABone: [[spoiler:After Carona goes home; home, back to her lonely island; island, she gets a letter from Castille's father asking for help; help, implying that she will be befriended by Castille in her world as well.]]



* XanatosGambit: [[spoiler:Carona is training Marona and crew to either kill the Merchant or else become his slaves; either way her Ivoire is saved. Marona convinces her to put more at risk.]]

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* XanatosGambit: [[spoiler:Carona is training Marona and crew to either kill the Merchant or else become his slaves; either way way, her Ivoire is saved. Marona convinces her to put more at risk.]]
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* LaserBlade: A Divine Sword on the the ground is just a tubular handle; once a character picks one up; it extends.
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** That's only one of the ways the computer cheats. Enemy characters stay in play permanently during battle, while your summoned ghosts fade away after about three turns and can't be resummoned (granted that's part of the plot so I'll let it slide).

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** That's only one of the ways the computer cheats. Enemy characters stay in play permanently during battle, while your summoned ghosts fade away after about three turns and can't be resummoned (granted that's part of the plot so I'll let it slide).resummoned.
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* IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace: The Island of Evil; where Marona's parents were killed; we read about it in newspapers as a location where TotalPartyKill is common.
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* DelayedNarratorIntroduction: One of the hints that Sienna, the owner of the island that Marona rents, is more than she seems.
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* BigBrotherInstinct: Ash and [[spoiler:Walnut]].

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* %%* BigBrotherInstinct: Ash and [[spoiler:Walnut]].



* DeaderThanDead: Marona can ([[SpitefulAI and the enemies ''will'']]), by attacking the "body" of one of her phantoms, Soul Kill them. She can still reconstitute it by sacrificing an object (and with a certain item, make the soul stronger). It is implied by dialogue (the evil has lifted and peace fills the air) that this is the right thing to do with Baal when it joins the party after you defeat it as a BonusBoss.
** This can also happen on the maps themselves. Marona herself is immune from soul death.

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* DeaderThanDead: DeaderThanDead:
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Marona can ([[SpitefulAI and the enemies ''will'']]), by attacking the "body" of one of her phantoms, Soul Kill them. She can still reconstitute it by sacrificing an object (and with a certain item, make the soul stronger). It is implied by dialogue (the evil has lifted and peace fills the air) that this is the right thing to do with Baal when it joins the party after you defeat it as a BonusBoss.
** This can also happen on the maps themselves. Marona herself is immune from soul death.



* LostForever: That Snakish sword in the tutorial? It's the only one. ''In the entire game''.
** There are several others like this. Anytime a boss appears with a unique weapon (especially if they are swords), they can be disarmed using certain attack techniques and their equipment stolen by certain phantoms. Another example are Eggs, which while not unique, are only found in extremely rare random dungeon types and/or a few specific story maps.
** The Wii version's NewGamePlus allows you to obtain those items again if you missed them the first time, but because tutorial levels won't be available again during a NewGamePlus, the Snakish sword will still be LostForever if you don't obtain it the first time you see it.



* NotQuiteSavedEnough: let's review:
** Castille: [[spoiler:trapped in ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'']] as a servant [[spoiler: of Zetta]] after a [[spoiler: failed attempt to find Walnut's soul.]]
*** She returns to Ivoire in ''Phantom Brave Portable,'' meaning Zetta either sent her back or she found a way out.

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* NotQuiteSavedEnough: let's review:
NotQuiteSavedEnough:
** Castille: [[spoiler:trapped in ''VideoGame/MakaiKingdom'']] as a servant [[spoiler: of Zetta]] after a [[spoiler: failed attempt to find Walnut's soul.]]
***
]] She returns to Ivoire in ''Phantom Brave Portable,'' meaning Zetta either sent her back or she found a way out.



* OneStatToRuleThemAll: Get that Speed stat up...STAT!

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* OneStatToRuleThemAll: Get that Speed stat up... STAT!



* PermanentlyMissableContent:
** That Snakish sword in the tutorial? It's the only one. ''In the entire game''. The Wii version's NewGamePlus allows you to obtain some items again if you missed them the first time, but because tutorial levels won't be available again during a NewGamePlus, the Snakish sword will still be lost if you don't obtain it the first time you see it.
** Anytime a boss appears with a unique weapon (especially if they are swords), they can be disarmed using certain attack techniques and their equipment stolen by certain phantoms.
** Eggs, while not unique, are only found in extremely rare random dungeon types and/or a few specific story maps.



* RousseauWasRight: By the end of the game, [[spoiler:''everyone'' has become a good guy and is working with Marona to save the world from Sulphur.]]
** [[spoiler:Lujei Piche almost killed all that effort since she sent Sulfur back to Ivoire, but then Marona just ''kills'' him period as a BonusBoss. LevelGrinding beats ThePowerOfLove.]]

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* RousseauWasRight: By the end of the game, [[spoiler:''everyone'' has become a good guy and is working with Marona to save the world from Sulphur.]]
** [[spoiler:Lujei
Lujei Piche almost killed all that effort since she sent Sulfur back to Ivoire, but then Marona just ''kills'' him period as a BonusBoss. LevelGrinding beats ThePowerOfLove.]]



* ShoutOut: One foe begins the fight with "[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Enough talk, have at you!]]" while another uses [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} "Kazan Monsters, I choose you!"]]. Also, a random name for Owl units is Orly.

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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
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One foe begins the fight with "[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight Enough talk, have at you!]]" while another uses [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} "Kazan Monsters, I choose you!"]]. Also, a random name for Owl units is Orly.



* SurvivalMantra: "One day..." Marona keeps her sanity with those two words. That One Day....everything will be alright.

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* SurvivalMantra: "One day..." Marona keeps her sanity with those two words. That One Day....Day... everything will be alright.



** [[spoiler: Sprout attempts this by killing himself when Sulfur resurfaces through Sprout's body. Walnut also seals himself with Sulfur at the end.]]

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** [[spoiler: Sprout [[spoiler:Sprout attempts this by killing himself when Sulfur resurfaces through Sprout's body. Walnut also seals himself with Sulfur at the end.]]



* ThemeNaming: Most characters are named after colors, particularly wood hues. Many types of special magic are also named after colors; Marona's ability to use phantoms is "Chartreuse," Walnut uses "Psycho Burgundy," and so on.
** ColorfulThemeNaming: Even without the wood hues there are some that fit the color theme.

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* ThemeNaming: Most characters are named after colors, particularly wood hues. Many types of special magic are also named after colors; Marona's ability to use phantoms is "Chartreuse," Walnut uses "Psycho Burgundy," and so on.
** ColorfulThemeNaming:
on. [[ColorfulThemeNaming Even without the wood hues hues, there are some that fit the color theme.]]



*** Marona's version of "Transmigration" is...messier than ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}''. You have to let a Phantom's HP be taken to 0, then its body needs to be destroyed. Then she can reconstitute its spirit with into a special item.

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*** Marona's version of "Transmigration" is... messier than ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}''. You have to let a Phantom's HP be taken to 0, then its body needs to be destroyed. Then she can reconstitute its spirit with into a special item.



* WaveMotionGun: You'd be surprised what counts as a wave motion gun when some of the items AND enemies have abilities that resemble a giant death beam when used. This includes dogs, some random plants and even attached abilities to characters.
** Heck, by fusing abilities such as Balsa Bazooka into a character anything they can get their hands on (or [[KamehameHadouken their bare hands]]) can become one.
* WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: This makes sense, actually. Since Marona is basically using SummonMagic; ''and'' is a living human, if she dies and all of her summoned Phantoms die and/or run out of turns, game over. Phantoms cannot permanently die as long as she's around to put them back together.
** Subverted in the [[MarathonLevel Dungeon Creator]]: if you manage to win that battle inside the dungeons even if Marona is knocked out, she will be resurrected at the next level, but with 1HP.

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* WaveMotionGun: WaveMotionGun:
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You'd be surprised what counts as a wave motion gun when some of the items AND enemies have abilities that resemble a giant death beam when used. This includes dogs, some random plants and even attached abilities to characters.
** Heck, by By fusing abilities such as Balsa Bazooka into a character character, anything they can get their hands on (or [[KamehameHadouken their bare hands]]) can become one.
* WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: This makes sense, actually. Since Marona is basically using SummonMagic; ''and'' is a living human, if she dies and all of her summoned Phantoms die and/or run out of turns, game over. Phantoms cannot permanently die as long as she's around to put them back together.
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together. Subverted in the [[MarathonLevel Dungeon Creator]]: if you manage to win that battle inside the dungeons even if Marona is knocked out, she will be resurrected at the next level, but with 1HP.



* ADarkerMe: Carona.

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* %%* ADarkerMe: Carona.



* DarkerAndEdgier: Carona to Marona, again
* [[spoiler:DeadAllAlong: Marona was killed in "Another Marona" the same as everyone else. Carona was extended Confining her.]]

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* %%* DarkerAndEdgier: Carona to Marona, again
Marona.
* [[spoiler:DeadAllAlong: Marona DeadAllAlong: [[spoiler:Marona was killed in "Another Marona" the same as everyone else. Carona was extended Confining her.]]



* DoomsdayDevice: The Magenta Core.

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* %%* DoomsdayDevice: The Magenta Core.



* [[spoiler:EverybodyLives: Beating the Merchant actually makes him go through with his promise to resurrect everyone he killed. Including Walnut and Sprout.]]

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* [[spoiler:EverybodyLives: Beating EverybodyLives: [[spoiler:Beating the Merchant actually makes him go through with his promise to resurrect everyone he killed. Including Walnut and Sprout.]]



* FakeDifficulty: Most of the maps in ''Another Marona'' rely on [[BeefGate level-pumping enemies]] and multi-mob affairs that enforce LevelGrinding as opposed to any real strategy.
** That said, Protections become MUCH more important.

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* FakeDifficulty: Most of the maps in ''Another Marona'' rely on [[BeefGate level-pumping enemies]] and multi-mob affairs that enforce LevelGrinding as opposed to any real strategy. \n** That said, Protections become MUCH more important.



* GoodIsNotNice: Carona.

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* %%* GoodIsNotNice: Carona.



* MoralityChain: [[spoiler: Carona is from a world where Ash didn't become a Phantom, and she was left all alone in a world that hated her when she was 5 years old. She's not as crazy as many, and she's still trying to save her world; but it takes a combination of this world's Marona and Ash to get her to open up.]]

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* MoralityChain: [[spoiler: Carona [[spoiler:Carona is from a world where Ash didn't become a Phantom, and she was left all alone in a world that hated her when she was 5 years old. She's not as crazy as many, and she's still trying to save her world; but it takes a combination of this world's Marona and Ash to get her to open up.]]



* SoulJar: The Magenta Core.

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* %%* SoulJar: The Magenta Core.



* WifeHusbandry: Carona accuses Ash of this.

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* %%* WifeHusbandry: Carona accuses Ash of this.
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* DumpStat: Per NipponIchi tradition, DEF and RES become nigh-useless against most post-game enemies, primarily the [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]], reuducing those battles into OneHitKO affairs.
**....But Subverted this time as certain items and attacks can [[BaitAndSwitch rely on these stats for their damage]],[[note]]Rocks for example primarily use DEF; while Bread uses HP, ETC.[[/note]] so any tank can become a damage-dealer with enough effort.


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*** She returns to Ivoire in ''Phantom Brave Portable,'' meaning Zetta either sent her back or she found a way out.


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*** Disgaea lore implies that the Netherworld is MadeofEvil, and as such it probably just corrupted her slightly as she stayed; ala Almaz.


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* FakeDifficulty: Most of the maps in ''Another Marona'' rely on [[BeefGate level-pumping enemies]] and multi-mob affairs that enforce LevelGrinding as opposed to any real strategy.
** That said, Protections become MUCH more important.
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* JokeCharacter: The Granny and Old Man classes have ''horrible stat growth'' in every area; and "F" rank in almost every kind of skill. (And the skills they have "E" rank in work against what little of a stat set-up they have) While each of them have a Passive skill they can use on Phantom Isle, [[note]]The Granny can bake cookies which can lower a character's Dark Points a bit; while the Old Man can grant EXP to random objects.[[/note]] neither of these skills are frequent or useful enough to justify them taking up a character slot. Oh, and they can only stay on the battlefield for 2 turns. Most units can manage 3 or 4.
** Any Character given the "Failure" Title becomes this. Until you learn their true function, anyway.


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** Characters with the Blasphemy Title are a subversion. The Title grants the character the HP-reliant "Dark Eboreus" skill, improves all stats across the board and grants a boost to EXP gains.....but plunges every one of the character's Skill ranks to "F." If the character doesn't have some SP under their belt already, gaining SP immediately becomes an uphill battle as long as they carry the title. But, if they have enough SP, you've essentially doubled that character's stats. [[UpToEleven They become even better if they have high HP, as they can waste enemy mobs with Dark Eboreus]].
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* TeensAreShort: Yes, Marona and Castile are canonically 13 and 14, respectively. [[OlderThanTheyLook They both appear roughly half a decade younger.]]



** Not to mention how "fusion" powers up your skills and items; and consumes one of the beings fused. An easy way to get a quick Title? Summon a cheap Phantom then banish it, and only it's Title will be left. You want to double your experience and {{mana}} absorbed when you kill enemies and to heal when you take a step? Summon a Slime (they have perfect efficiency with anything in fusion transfer), fuse a high-level item to give it some mana, Summon 50-100 of the beings you want to transfer the skill; fuse them into the slime, and then fuse the slime into the character you want the skill given to.
*** Marona's version of "Transmigration" is...messier than ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}''. You have to let a Phantom's HP be taken to 0, then it's body needs to be destroyed. Then she can reconstitute it's spirit with into a special item.

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** Not to mention how "fusion" powers up your skills and items; and consumes one of the beings fused. An easy way to get a quick Title? Summon a cheap Phantom then banish it, and only it's its Title will be left. You want to double your experience and {{mana}} absorbed when you kill enemies and to heal when you take a step? Summon a Slime (they have perfect efficiency with anything in fusion transfer), fuse a high-level item to give it some mana, Summon 50-100 of the beings you want to transfer the skill; fuse them into the slime, and then fuse the slime into the character you want the skill given to.
*** Marona's version of "Transmigration" is...messier than ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}''. You have to let a Phantom's HP be taken to 0, then it's its body needs to be destroyed. Then she can reconstitute it's its spirit with into a special item.
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