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* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Lampshaded and subverted briefly. The Kaocho Generals don't like being upstaged by a RagtagBunchOfMisfits, and try to get you out of the way with a SnipeHunt.

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Lampshaded and subverted briefly. The Kaocho Generals don't like being upstaged by a RagtagBunchOfMisfits, and try to get you out of the way with a SnipeHunt.



* RecapEpisode: The Psynergy Training Grounds double as a rough retelling of the story of the original duology.



* RedOniBlueOni: Ku-Embra is Red, while his much more reasonable brother Ku-Tsung is Blue. They're both antagonists, true to the original myth.

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* RememberedICouldFly: When confronted by [[spoiler:Chaos Hound]], Tyrell has to remind Sveta about her power before she uses Slap on it.
--> '''Tyrell:''' Are you an Adept or not? Use some Psynergy on it!
** Sveta also seemingly has to remember that, as a beastman, she can scent the identity of [[spoiler:the Chaos Hound]].

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When confronted by [[spoiler:Chaos Hound]], Tyrell has to remind Sveta about her power before she uses Slap on it.
--> ---> '''Tyrell:''' Are you an Adept or not? Use some Psynergy on it!
** Sveta also seemingly has to remember that, as a beastman, she can scent smell the identity of [[spoiler:the Chaos Hound]].
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* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Unlike the previous games, the characters' main puzzle-solving psynergies (Growth, Fireball, Whirlwind and Douse) are always available regardless of their class, negating the need for setting and shuffling around Djinn that was pressent in those games.

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* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Unlike the previous games, the characters' main puzzle-solving psynergies (Growth, Fireball, Whirlwind and Douse) are always available regardless of their class, negating the need for setting and shuffling around Djinn that was pressent present in those games.
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** Champa Camp

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* AGodAmI: The Wise One is a subversion. Yes, it has godlike power -- as confirmed by it encyclopaedia entry -- but it's not actually a god as it is a construct created by the ancients called a "Philosopher's Stone". This raises some [[{{God}} very]] [[TheOmnipotent interesting]] [[PhysicalGod ideas]] about just how powerful the ancients actually were.

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* AGodAmI: The Wise One is a subversion. Yes, it has godlike power -- as confirmed by it encyclopaedia entry -- but it's not actually a god as it is a construct created by the ancients called a "Philosopher's Stone". This raises some [[{{God}} very]] [[TheOmnipotent interesting]] [[PhysicalGod ideas]] about just how powerful the ancients actually were.
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%%* RebelliousPrincess: [[spoiler:Sveta]]

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%%* RebelliousPrincess: [[spoiler:Sveta]]* RealityEnsues: Although players returning to the franchise will know all about [[spoiler: [[HiddenAgendaVillain Alex]]]] and [[HijackedByGanon expect his involvement in the finale]], the player characters themselves do not. Half of them have only ever heard of his assumed death from their parents; the other half never heard of him in the first place. Even Kraden needs a good look at him to be sure.



* RedOniBlueOni: Ku-Embra is Red, while his much more reasonable brother Ku-Tsung is Blue.

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* TheBrute: Compared to the other {{Bonus Boss}}es, the Ogre Titans are very straightforward. They don't have any special techniques like mind control or stealing your summons, but they do have a lot of bulk[[note]]Each one has twice the health of the previous one, with the last having more health than any other enemy in the game[[/note]], a HealingFactor, an area of effect axe swing, and friends: there are five of them in total.

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* TheBrute: Compared to the other {{Bonus Boss}}es, the Ogre Titans are very straightforward. They don't have any special techniques like mind control or stealing your summons, but they do have a lot of bulk[[note]]Each one has at least twice the health of the previous one, with the last having more health than any other enemy in the game[[/note]], a HealingFactor, an area of effect axe swing, and friends: there are five of them in total.

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* TheBrute: The Ogre Titans have apparently inherited this position from [[VideoGame/GoldenSun Valukar]] among the Summon Tablet Guardians. Both of them guarded the same tablet-Daedalus-as well.
** Though at least Valukar is a GeniusBruiser unlike his successor.

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* TheBrute: The Compared to the other {{Bonus Boss}}es, the Ogre Titans are very straightforward. They don't have apparently inherited this position from [[VideoGame/GoldenSun Valukar]] among any special techniques like mind control or stealing your summons, but they do have a lot of bulk[[note]]Each one has twice the Summon Tablet Guardians. Both health of the previous one, with the last having more health than any other enemy in the game[[/note]], a HealingFactor, an area of effect axe swing, and friends: there are five of them guarded the same tablet-Daedalus-as well.
** Though at least Valukar is a GeniusBruiser unlike his successor.
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*** The European version, which has a slightly different translation from the US version, [[TranslationCorrection changes this somewhat]]. Tyrell's dialogue during the scene basically be summed up as "Her name sounds almost as weird as Blados.'" The Emperor hears him mention Blados and instantly assumes that the party is working under his and Chalis' command and she [[ManipulativeBastard confirms it]].
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* PersecutionFlip: In TLA, Garoh's werewolves hid themselves to avoid the prejudice of outsiders. Morgal's beastmen now cherrfuly boil outsiders alive.

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* PersecutionFlip: In TLA, Garoh's werewolves hid themselves to avoid the prejudice of outsiders. Morgal's beastmen now cherrfuly cheerfully boil outsiders alive.
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* UnnaturallyLoopingLocation: Subverted; One maze looks like this trope, but is actually using CutAndPasteEnvironments.

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* BeastMan: A race that evolved as a result of Alchemy's return, and have developed a nation of their own by chasing the locals out. Sveta, a party member, is one of them (and noted as the first playable nonhuman in the series). It is a bit of ContinuityNod when you think about [[VideoGame/GoldenSun The Lost Age]]'s village of Garoh...
** Interestingly, beastmen arose not just by [[{{Animorphism}} humans turning half-animal]] but [[AnthropomorphicTransformation animals turning half-human]], so it also straddles the line between this and FunnyAnimal. One character mentions that "ever since [she] started walking upright and wearing clothes, [she's] lost her taste for raw meat... mostly."



* PettingZooPeople: A race of beastmen evolved as a result of Alchemy's return, and have developed a nation of their own by chasing the locals out. Sveta, a party member, is one of them (and noted as the first playable nonhuman in the series). It is a bit of ContinuityNod when you think about [[VideoGame/GoldenSun The Lost Age]]'s village of Garoh...
** Interestingly, beastmen arose not just by [[{{Animorphism}} humans turning half-animal]] but [[HumanityEnsues animals turning half-human]]. One character mentions that "ever since [she] started walking upright and wearing clothes, [she's] lost her taste for raw meat... mostly."
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* HairColorSpoiler: [[spoiler:Blados and Chalis turn out to be Adepts]], but Amiti takes the cake for having ''basically his entire subplot'' given away by the fact that he's a blue-haired Adept in an area otherwise exclusive to brown- and black-haired non-Adepts. [[spoiler:And he turns out to be the son of the only other character with that shade of blue. [[CaptainObvious Who'd've thunk it?]]]]

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* HairColorSpoiler: [[spoiler:Blados and Chalis turn out to be Adepts]], but Amiti takes the cake for having ''basically his entire subplot'' given away by the fact that he's a blue-haired Adept in an area otherwise exclusive to brown- and black-haired non-Adepts. [[spoiler:And he turns out to be the son of the only other character with that shade of blue. [[CaptainObvious Who'd've thunk it?]]]]it?]]
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* HealingWinds: The Jupiter Adepts (wind/electricity users) now have a minor healing spell line called Fresh Breeze, which is the weakest in the game but heals everybody and doesn't require Djinn to use.
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** The Levatine is the fifth strongest longsword in the game in terms of base attack power, but the changes to the unleash system have made it second only to [[InfinityPlusOneSword the Sol Blade]]. The Levatine is one of the few weapons to have the Centurian unleash, which increases damage by two hundred-forty percent. Because the Levatine only has three unleashes, Centurion has a thirty-three percent chance to activate; to compare, the Excalibur has four unleashes, and the Legend unleash itself only has a sixty percent chance to triple the damage, leaving the total chance of tripling damage at fifteen percent. Levatine's other two unleashes are also respectable, one increasing damage by forty percent and the other hitting multiple enemies while possibly ignoring half their defense stat. Since Matthew will have the Sol Blade, this makes the Levatine ideal for Tyrell.

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** The Levatine is the fifth strongest longsword in the game in terms of base attack power, but the changes to the unleash system have made it second only to [[InfinityPlusOneSword the Sol Blade]]. The Levatine is one of the few weapons to have the Centurian unleash, which increases damage by two one hundred-forty percent. Because the Levatine only has three unleashes, Centurion has a thirty-three percent chance to activate; to compare, the Excalibur has four unleashes, and the Legend unleash itself only has a sixty percent chance to triple the damage, leaving the total chance of tripling damage at fifteen percent. Levatine's other two unleashes are also respectable, one increasing damage by forty percent and the other hitting multiple enemies while possibly ignoring half their defense stat. Since Matthew will have the Sol Blade, this makes the Levatine ideal for Tyrell.



** Clotho's Distaff is the third strongest staff in the game, but a one-in-three chance of restoring the user's PP when an unleash activates makes it a good choice for Rief, who isn't meant to be dealing physical damage anyway.

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** Clotho's Distaff is the third strongest staff in the game, but a one-in-three chance of restoring the user's PP that runs off the user's Mercury power when an unleash activates makes it a good choice for Rief, who isn't meant to be dealing physical damage anyway.
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* ProgressiveInstrumentation: Done during the start of the Grave Eclipse, where the soldiers inside the opera house notice that the music from the orchestra pit [[https://youtu.be/70SlhkVw2rI?t=498 is getting more and more instruments included]], getting ambushed by monsters at the end.
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* NeverMessWithGranny: Obaba[[labelnote:*]]incidentally the grandmother of the above-mentioned Briggs and great-grandmother of Matthew's party's resident pirate, Eoleo[[/labelnote]] is easily around the same age as Kraden ''without the lifespan-extending effects of the Golden Sun'', yet death seems to be a concept completely alien to her, and she can forge as easily as she could in ''[[VideoGame/GoldenSun The Lost Age]]'' (even being able to produce what party members other than the Sol Blade-wielding Matthew can use as an InfinityPlusOneSword). This is mostly obvious because [[spoiler:she doesn't seem to be bothered at all by the fact that her hometown is engulfed in the monster-producing darkness of the Grave Eclipse, and is so unwilling to relocate to part of the country outside the eclipse's range like most other townspeople that the townspeople that didn't relocate (specifically because of her reluctance to leave town, not for their own reasons) ended up burning the buildings to produce light to repel the monsters the eclipse attracts, since Champa doesn't have any mechanism to repel them like Harapa's perpetual light or Passaj and Ayuthay's Alchemy machines]].

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* NeverMessWithGranny: Obaba[[labelnote:*]]incidentally the grandmother of the above-mentioned Briggs and great-grandmother of Matthew's party's resident pirate, Eoleo[[/labelnote]] is easily around the same age as Kraden ''without the lifespan-extending effects of the Golden Sun'', yet death seems to be a concept completely alien to her, and she can forge as easily as she could in ''[[VideoGame/GoldenSun ''[[VideoGame/GoldenSunTheLostAge The Lost Age]]'' (even being able to produce what party members other than the Sol Blade-wielding Matthew can use as an InfinityPlusOneSword). This is mostly obvious because [[spoiler:she doesn't seem to be bothered at all by the fact that her hometown is engulfed in the monster-producing darkness of the Grave Eclipse, and is so unwilling to relocate to part of the country outside the eclipse's range like most other townspeople that the townspeople that didn't relocate (specifically because of her reluctance to leave town, not for their own reasons) ended up burning the buildings to produce light to repel the monsters the eclipse attracts, since Champa doesn't have any mechanism to repel them like Harapa's perpetual light or Passaj and Ayuthay's Alchemy machines]].
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** The Levatine is the fifth strongest longsword in the game in terms of base attack power, but the changes to the unleash system have made it second only to [[InfinityPlusOneSword the Sol Blade]]. The Levatine is one of the few weapons to have the Centurian unleash, which increases damage by two hundred-forty percent. Because the Levatine only has three unleashes, Centurion has a thirty-three percent chance to activate; to compare, the Excalibur has four unleashes, and the Legend unleash itself only has a sixty percent chance to triple the damage, leaving the total chance of tripling damage at fifteen percent. Levatine's other two unleashes are also respectable, one increasing damage by forty percent and the other hitting multiple enemies while possibly ignoring half their defense stat. Since Matthew will have the Sol Blade, this makes the Levatine ideal for Tyrell.
** The Verdant Sword is the second strongest light blade, but not only can it be obtained prior to the final battle unlike the Tisiphone Edge, its damage is directly boosted by the wielder's Jupiter power, which Karis has plenty of. With the right equipment set-up, Karis can double the Verdant Sword's damage output ''before'' unleashes are factored in.
** Clotho's Distaff is the third strongest staff in the game, but a one-in-three chance of restoring the user's PP when an unleash activates makes it a good choice for Rief, who isn't meant to be dealing physical damage anyway.
** The Masamune is the third strongest light blade, but its iconic Rising Dragon unleash synergizes well with Amiti's high Mercury power in addition to having a one-in-three chance to activate. Its other two unleashes are also respectable, making it a reliable option since the only weapon with an even stronger water-elemental unleash is only available after the final boss is defeated.

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* AGodAmI: The Wise One is a subversion. Yes, it has godlike power - as confirmed by it encyclopaedia entry - but it's not actually a god as it is a construct created by the ancients called a "Philosopher's Stone". This raises some [[{{God}} very]] [[TheOmnipotent interesting]] [[PhysicalGod ideas]] about just how powerful the ancients actually were.

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* AGodAmI: The Wise One is a subversion. Yes, it has godlike power - -- as confirmed by it encyclopaedia entry - -- but it's not actually a god as it is a construct created by the ancients called a "Philosopher's Stone". This raises some [[{{God}} very]] [[TheOmnipotent interesting]] [[PhysicalGod ideas]] about just how powerful the ancients actually were.



** [[spoiler:Hou Zan, Hou Ju, and Ryu Kou make their way to an iceberg outpost - unintentionally - and wind up stranded on the rocks. Hou Zan, the elder of the trio, staves off the demons for a time, but ultimately pays with his life as well.]]

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** [[spoiler:Hou Zan, Hou Ju, and Ryu Kou make their way to an iceberg outpost - -- unintentionally - -- and wind up stranded on the rocks. Hou Zan, the elder of the trio, staves off the demons for a time, but ultimately pays with his life as well.]]



* RocBirds: The Mountain Roc is large enough to carry off human prey when Amiti recalls indirectly encountering it as a child, to be worshipped as a god the nation of Morgal, to force the camera to zoom out during your boss fight against it (and you still don't get the whole thing on your screen) and that its gizzard acts as a WombLevel, albeit a short one.



* SadlyMythtaken: Same as in the previous games in regards to the elements/gods association... yet there are a couple of [[ShownTheirWork notable details]] added to the summons from the previous games, such as Procne now showing [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philomela_(princess_of_Athens) a nightingale and swallow in flight]] as well as the old gigantic monster-bird, and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagan_(demon)#King.2FPresident_Zagan Zagan]] getting a design makeover and being shown sitting in Hell when summoned. They also remade Thor as a redhead - Norse mythology buffs rejoiced.

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* SadlyMythtaken: Same as in the previous games in regards to the elements/gods association... yet there are a couple of [[ShownTheirWork notable details]] added to the summons from the previous games, such as Procne now showing [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philomela_(princess_of_Athens) a nightingale and swallow in flight]] as well as the old gigantic monster-bird, and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagan_(demon)#King.2FPresident_Zagan Zagan]] getting a design makeover and being shown sitting in Hell when summoned. They also remade Thor as a redhead - -- Norse mythology buffs rejoiced.



** [[spoiler:Mooks, Blados, and Chalis aside, you never get back at the Tuaparang - or the Umbra Clan - for all the grief they caused. On top of that, their leader, the High Empyror, is never seen, only mentioned. Maybe next time.]]

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** [[spoiler:Mooks, Blados, and Chalis aside, you never get back at the Tuaparang - -- or the Umbra Clan - -- for all the grief they caused. On top of that, their leader, the High Empyror, is never seen, only mentioned. Maybe next time.]]
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* GenerationXerox: A young blond Earth Adept with a yellow scarf, his HotBlooded and redheaded Fire Adept friend, a [[JustForPun short]] tempered Wind Adept, and a blue-robed Water Adept go on a journey to save the world...and they're the children of the heroes who exactly fit those descriptions [[VideoGame/GoldenSun previously]].

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** [[spoiler:Presumably, Alex is this way as well.]]
[[spoiler:*** [[spoiler:Alex would be LivingForeverIsAwesome]]
** [[spoiler:Obaba is upset to learn she's outlived her grandson.]]
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* InfantImmortality: Subverted after [[spoiler:the Grave Eclipse]] starts up, one of the (offscreen) victims is the kid in Harapa who tried to use Psynergy, and one NPC in Belinsk can't find her kids... Played straight in Kaocho, where... conversing... with [=NPCs=] reveals they managed to get the kids inside the palace before shutting the door.


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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: Patcher's Place and Carver's Camp, which are settlements founded by refugees from Vale after the events of ''[[VideoGame/GoldenSun The Lost Age]]''. There's also Champa Camp, though unlike the other two that one was probably unintentional. The title itself, Dark Dawn, is also an example.
* AIIsACrapshoot: The Wise One is revealed to be a creation of the precursor to prevent Alchemy's release, so it allowing the Warriors of Vale, after a test of character, to light the final beacon makes him an example, thankfully of the "on the heroes side" subtype.


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* BadassGrandpa:
** Hou Zan, who managed to [[spoiler:protect Ryu Kou and Hou Ju from the eclipse monsters until Matthew came to rescue them, at the cost of his own life]]. This is also the same guy who shares with Tyrell the distinction of [[spoiler:actually trying to hurt Alex]]!
---> '''Masked Man:''' How many times must I prove that you little insects can't hurt me?
---> '''Hou Zan:''' [[PreAsskickingOneLiner Once more, apparently.]]
** [[spoiler:Briggs also is attacked by the immensely powerful eclipse monsters and survives long enough to be found by the heroes and die reassuring his son.]] He only disqualifies on the basis of not having any known grandkids (though with a son [[MrFanservice that good-looking]]... one never knows).



* PapaWolf: Briggs, who singlehandedly tries to storm the most fortified city on Angara with a busted ship in the effort to rescue his imprisoned son. ''Twice.'' The sheer insanity of this is lampshaded. [[spoiler:He also stays in port during the onset of the Grave Eclipse so you can get Eoleo out of there, [[DyingMomentOfAwesome even though the monsters mortally wound him]].]]

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---> '''Masked Man:''' How many times must I prove that you little insects can't hurt me?
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Briggs, who singlehandedly tries to storm the most fortified city on Angara with a busted ship in the effort to rescue his imprisoned son. ''Twice.'' The sheer insanity of this is lampshaded. [[spoiler:He also stays in port during the onset of the Grave Eclipse so you can get Eoleo out of there, [[DyingMomentOfAwesome even though the monsters mortally wound him]].]]
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* OurDarkMatterIsMysterious: Dark matter is a super-rare crafting material found only on Crossbone Isle. The gear crafted from it is among the best there is, but it's all cursed (can't be unequipped without a priest, and occasionally stuns the wielder without a specific one-of-a-kind item).
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** The final boss also counts, due to the fact that it has very powerful attacks and can haunt your party, though it's generally tame compared to other final bosses.

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** The Oddly enough, the final boss also counts, due to the fact that it has very powerful attacks and can haunt your party, though party. Although it's generally tame compared to other final bosses.bosses, it's a major step up from the rest of the game, and serves as an indicator of what to expect from the [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]].
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* RuinsForRuinsSake: The Konpa Ruins were ostensibly a meeting place for the greatest minds of Alchemy in pre-sealing times, but the architects seemed more interested in powering the structure through solving puzzles and other impractical means, and the entire complex doesn't appear to have any areas explicitly dedicated to holding a forum or discussion. The [[ChokepointGeography Teppe Ruins]] and the [[DismantledMacGuffin Lonely Island Ruins]] don't serve any apparent purpose at all. Eventually [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] nonetheless.
--> '''Tret:''' You assume a castle built on ancient ruins MUST have a secret entrance infested with traps and monsters? [[DoubleSubversion Well, you're right... THIS time.]]

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