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* ThrowItIn: Producer Spencer Proffer suggested adding a breakdown after Slash's solo in "Sweet Child o' Mine". The band agreed, but didn't know what they wanted to do. Axl started saying to himself "Where do we go, where do we go now?" while listening to the demo in a loop. Proffer suggested that he sing that, and the rest is history.

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* ThrowItIn: Producer Spencer Proffer suggested adding a breakdown after Slash's solo in "Sweet Child o' Mine". The band agreed, but didn't know what they wanted to do. Axl started saying to himself "Where do we go, where do we go now?" while listening to the demo in a loop. Proffer suggested that said he should sing that, and the rest is history.
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* CutSong: "Ain't Going Down," which was cut from the ''Use Your Illusion'' album and debuts here instead.
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** The Riverport Riot, to the point where people associated with the Riverport Amphitheatre and the incident in question are still sore about what had happened and every major venue in the city had blacklisted them. There's still bad blood between GNR and St. Louis today; a commercial being broadcast on KSHE in 2011 was interrupted simply because the music in the background happened to be "Paradise City", and on GNR's official site for their [[ThreeDMovie 3D concert film]] ''Appetite for Democracy'', the state is apparently deliberately misspelt as "Misuri" in the section listing the showtimes.

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** The Riverport Riot, to the point where people associated with the Riverport Amphitheatre and the incident in question are still sore about what had happened and every major venue in the city had blacklisted them. There's still bad blood between GNR and St. Louis today; a commercial being broadcast on KSHE in 2011 was interrupted simply because the music in the background happened to be "Paradise City", and on GNR's official site for their [[ThreeDMovie 3D concert film]] film ''Appetite for Democracy'', the state is apparently deliberately misspelt as "Misuri" in the section listing the showtimes.
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* ThrowItIn: "Sweet Child O'Mine" was written in one sitting on the back of a bus. As nobody wrote anything for the aftermath of Slash's solo, they lampshaded the situation instead of writing another verse : "Where do we go, where do we go now?"

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* ThrowItIn: Producer Spencer Proffer suggested adding a breakdown after Slash's solo in "Sweet Child O'Mine" was written in one sitting on the back of a bus. As nobody wrote anything for the aftermath of Slash's solo, o' Mine". The band agreed, but didn't know what they lampshaded the situation instead of writing another verse : wanted to do. Axl started saying to himself "Where do we go, where do we go now?"now?" while listening to the demo in a loop. Proffer suggested that he sing that, and the rest is history.



** ''Chinese Democracy'', the musical equivalent to VideoGame/DukeNukemForever, took 15 years to be released.

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** ''Chinese Democracy'', the musical equivalent to of VideoGame/DukeNukemForever, took 15 years to be released.



* WriteWhoYouKnow: Three in their debut, "My Michelle" (a friend of Axl), "Sweet Child O'Mine" (his then-girlfriend) and "Rocket Queen" (a girl who Axl knew and wanted to have a band by this name).

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* WriteWhoYouKnow: Three in their debut, "My Michelle" (a friend of Axl), "Sweet Child O'Mine" o' Mine" (his then-girlfriend) and "Rocket Queen" (a girl who Axl knew and wanted to have a band by this name).
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* DirectedByCastMember: The original idea and initial layout for the game came from Slash himself, who is a major pinball fan and collector.

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* DirectedByCastMember: [[DirectedByCastMember Designed by Band Member]]: The original idea and initial layout for the game came from Slash himself, who is a major pinball fan and collector.
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** Let's just say there's a reason why they only performed "One in a Million" a few times between ''Appetite for Destruction'' and ''GNR Lies'', and not at all after.

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** Let's just say there's a reason why they only performed "One in a Million" a few times between ''Appetite for Destruction'' ''Music/AppetiteForDestruction'' and ''GNR Lies'', ''Music/GNRLies'', and not at all after.
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* OneOfUs: Slash, who is addicted to ''VideoGame/RockBand'', is a fan of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', and '''designed''' the [[Pinball/GunsNRoses GNR pinball machine.]]

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* OneOfUs: Slash, who is addicted to ''VideoGame/RockBand'', is a fan of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''[[note]]To the point where he actually asked to perform a song for TheMovie. Repeat: A ''legendary musician'' asked permission to perform a song for a cartoon movie because he's just that much of a fan.[[/note]], and '''designed''' the [[Pinball/GunsNRoses GNR pinball machine.]]
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True story coming from someone who has an authentic cassette of their \'\'Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide\'\' EP.


* FakeBrit: "Down on the Farm"
** An attempt at an English accent so dire, it makes Axl a prime contender for the Creator/DickVanDyke of hard rock.

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* FakeBrit: "Down on the Farm"
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Farm" has Axl attempt at an English accent so dire, it makes Axl him a prime contender for the Creator/DickVanDyke of hard rock.rock.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Good luck trying to acquire an authentic record of their ''Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide'' EP, and that goes ''triple'' for the cassette release; count yourself lucky if you pick up an authentic copy (especially of the cassette) for less than a hundredth of what they usually go for (usually triple digits for the vinyl record and ''[[UpToEleven quadruple digits]]'' for the cassette).
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* NeverLiveItDown:
** Let's just say there's a reason why they only performed "One in a Million" a few times between ''Appetite for Destruction'' and ''GNR Lies'', and not at all after.
** The Riverport Riot, to the point where people associated with the Riverport Amphitheatre and the incident in question are still sore about what had happened and every major venue in the city had blacklisted them. There's still bad blood between GNR and St. Louis today; a commercial being broadcast on KSHE in 2011 was interrupted simply because the music in the background happened to be "Paradise City", and on GNR's official site for their [[ThreeDMovie 3D concert film]] ''Appetite for Democracy'', the state is apparently deliberately misspelt as "Misuri" in the section listing the showtimes.
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** According to Axl, "Chinese Democracy" was done and ready to be released in 1999/2000. They even had enough for a double album. However, when a new producer was brought in, he told Axl that it all needed to be rerecorded. In 2006, Rose remarked that the band had thirty two songs in the works. Come 2008, when the record is finally released, we end up with only fourteen. One has to wonder how the "lost tracks" would have affected the album, especially since there are anywhere from 30-40.
** Additionally, one has to wonder how much more successful the record would have been if it was released when it was intended to be. If the album was released in 2000-2002, the market for it would have been much better, especially with all of the hype. Then you have to consider how different it may have sounded. The final product is the combined work of around a dozen musicians, but how would it have sounded if they had released it in 2001, with the lineup of Rose, Buckethead, Finck, Tobias, Stinson, Brain, Pitman and Reed? Or in 1999/2000, with Rose, Finck, Tobias, Stinson, Freese, Reed and Pitman?
** Also, if the record had been released in a timely manner, Buckethead may have stayed on board. One has to wonder what Guns N' Roses with Buckethead as a mainstay would resulted in.
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** The constant delays for Chinese Democracy eventually led to the fans joking about when the next album will be released. At a clinic in 2013, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, one of the current guitarists, even made fun of this himself!
--> Bumblefoot: So yeah, the funny thing about making an album, 'cause we were just talking about it before, 'cause people always ask me: "When's the next Guns N' Roses album coming out?" I'm like "2095"! (Proceeds to talk about the process of making an album).
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* WriteWhoYouKnow: Three in their debut, "My Michelle" (a friend of Axl), "Sweet Child O'Mine" (his then-girlfriend) and "Rocket Queen" (a girl who Axl knew and wanted to have a band by this name).
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* RevivalByCommercialization: Word has it that the one big push for the release of ''Chinese Democracy'' was the [[EarlyBirdCameo inclusion of "Shackler's Revenge"]] in ''RockBand 2''. And then later the rest of the album was put up for DownloadableContent. This opens space for some WhatCouldHaveBeen if Harmonix had not considered them.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[note]]Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from ''Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song[[/note]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[note]]Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from ''Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song[[/note]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" Cry", "You Ain't The First", and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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---->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 1995

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---->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 1995

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---->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 19951995
* ExecutiveMeddling: Discussed by Slash, who said he took his proposal to Creator/DataEast over the larger Creator/WilliamsElectronics to avoid this trope.
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* OneOfUs: Slash, who is addicted to ''VideoGame/RockBand'', is a fan of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', and '''designed''' the [[Pinball/GunsNRoses GNR pinball machine.]]



---->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 1995

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---->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 1995
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->"You know, there hasn't been a good rock 'n' roll [pinball] machine in, like, 15 years... I thought, well, ''Guns'' is a well-enough known name that we could probably do one. So I started drawing out the game, then I started sketching, writing down the rules..."
--->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 1995

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->"You -->"You know, there hasn't been a good rock 'n' roll [pinball] machine in, like, 15 years... I thought, well, ''Guns'' is a well-enough known name that we could probably do one. So I started drawing out the game, then I started sketching, writing down the rules..."
--->--Slash, ---->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 1995
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: If the band hadn't essentially disappeared off the face of the planet in the mid-'90s despite being one of music's biggest rock bands at the time, there's no telling just how much bigger they could have become.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: If the band hadn't essentially disappeared off the face of the planet in the mid-'90s despite being one of music's biggest rock bands at the time, there's no telling just how much bigger they could have become.become.

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* DirectedByCastMember: The original idea and initial layout for the game came from Slash himself, who is a major pinball fan and collector.
->"You know, there hasn't been a good rock 'n' roll [pinball] machine in, like, 15 years... I thought, well, ''Guns'' is a well-enough known name that we could probably do one. So I started drawing out the game, then I started sketching, writing down the rules..."
--->--Slash, ''Rip'' magazine, January 1995
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** An attempt at an English accent so dire, it makes Axl a prime contender for the DickVanDyke of hard rock.

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** An attempt at an English accent so dire, it makes Axl a prime contender for the DickVanDyke Creator/DickVanDyke of hard rock.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from ''Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus [[note]]Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from ''Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], song[[/note]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from ''Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.


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* RetroactiveRecognition: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from ''Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: A year before the release of the first Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use ''Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: A year before the release of the first BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: A year before the release of the first BlindMelon Music/BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: A year before the release of the first BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: A year before the release of the first BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], where he's credited in the liner notes simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.
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** HeyItsThatVoice: [[Music/BlindMelon Shannon Hoon]] contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], which was released a year before Blind Melon had their debut. He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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** * HeyItsThatVoice: [[Music/BlindMelon A year before the release of the first BlindMelon album, Shannon Hoon]] Hoon contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], which was released a year before Blind Melon had their debut.where he's credited simply as "Shannon". He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.

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** HeyItsThatVoice: [[Music/BlindMelon Shannon Hoon]] contributed backing vocals to six songs on ''Use Your Illusion I'' [[hottip:*: Plus the "alternate lyrics" version of "Don't Cry" from Use Your Illusion II'', if you count that as a separate song]], which was released a year before Blind Melon had their debut. He's probably most recognizable on "Don't Cry" and "The Garden". The "Don't Cry" video also featured Hoon performing alongside the band.



* ThrowItIn: "Sweet Child O'Mine" was written in one sitting on the back of a bus. As nobody wrote anything for the aftermath of Slash's solo, they lambshaded the situation instead of writing another verse : "Where do we go, where do we go now?"

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* ThrowItIn: "Sweet Child O'Mine" was written in one sitting on the back of a bus. As nobody wrote anything for the aftermath of Slash's solo, they lambshaded lampshaded the situation instead of writing another verse : "Where do we go, where do we go now?"
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I edited the \"Throw It In\", because it wasn\'t completly true.


* ThrowItIn: "Sweet Child O'Mine" was recorded in one take. As Axl didn't have anything written after Slash's solo, he started improvising by lampshading the situation: "Where do we go, where do we go now?"

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* ThrowItIn: "Sweet Child O'Mine" was recorded written in one take. sitting on the back of a bus. As Axl didn't have nobody wrote anything written after for the aftermath of Slash's solo, he started improvising by lampshading they lambshaded the situation: situation instead of writing another verse : "Where do we go, where do we go now?"
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* ThrowItIn: "Sweet Child O'Mine" was recorded in one take. As Axl didn't have anything written after Slash's solo, he started improvising by lampshading the situation: "Where do we go, where do we go now?"

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\"Persona Non Grata\" is no longer Trivia.


* PersonaNonGrata - The group is banned from performing in St. Louis after the infamous Riverport Riot that started when a fan pressed Axl Rose's BerserkButton. Their music, however, is not banned in St. Louis. Ironically, their current rhythm guitarist, Richard Fortus, is from St. Louis.
** A 2011 radio commercial that's running on the St. Louis classic rock station KSHE 95 (their actual frequency number is 94.7) references this; 2011 is the 20th anniversary of Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, previously known as Riverport. The riot occurred there. Guns N' Roses' Paradise City starts playing in the background of a commercial, then there's high-pitched mic feedback as the music stops, footsteps in the background, and the voiceover says "Sorry... he's still a little sore about that" referencing the riot and the band's subsequent ban from St. Louis.
* BannedInChina - Apparently the Chinese Cultural Department has issues with the entirety of ''Chinese Democracy'', despite just the title track bothering them. It's also the basis for a bad joke: Chinese Democracy is banned in China. Also the ''Guns N Roses'' album.
* ThePeteBest - The original line-up was Axl, Tracii Guns, Izzy, Ole Beich and Rob Gardner. Yes, only two of them are in the image atop of the main page.

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* PersonaNonGrata - The group is banned from performing in St. Louis after the infamous Riverport Riot that started when a fan pressed Axl Rose's BerserkButton. Their music, however, is not banned in St. Louis. Ironically, their current rhythm guitarist, Richard Fortus, is from St. Louis.
** A 2011 radio commercial that's running on the St. Louis classic rock station KSHE 95 (their actual frequency number is 94.7) references this; 2011 is the 20th anniversary of Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, previously known as Riverport. The riot occurred there. Guns N' Roses' Paradise City starts playing in the background of a commercial, then there's high-pitched mic feedback as the music stops, footsteps in the background, and the voiceover says "Sorry... he's still a little sore about that" referencing the riot and the band's subsequent ban from St. Louis.
* BannedInChina -
BannedInChina: Apparently the Chinese Cultural Department has issues with the entirety of ''Chinese Democracy'', despite just the title track bothering them. It's also the basis for a bad joke: Chinese Democracy is banned in China. Also the ''Guns N Roses'' album.
* ThePeteBest - FakeBrit: "Down on the Farm"
** An attempt at an English accent so dire, it makes Axl a prime contender for the DickVanDyke of hard rock.
* ThePeteBest:
The original line-up was Axl, Tracii Guns, Izzy, Ole Beich and Rob Gardner. Yes, only two of them are in the image atop of the main page.page.
* TroubledProduction: ''Chinese Democracy'', which used lots of money, time, and people.
* {{Vaporware}}
** ''Chinese Democracy'', the musical equivalent to VideoGame/DukeNukemForever, took 15 years to be released.
** The music video for the second single, "Better".

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