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->'""So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours."''

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->'""So ->''"So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours."''



-> ''" It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this [the Red Wedding] marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts.''"

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-> ''" It ''"It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this [the Red Wedding] marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts.''""''
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->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot."''

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->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong Creator/MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler.Creator/GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot."''
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-->-- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMJfA0ygbvA This podcast]] on DNAngel.

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-->-- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMJfA0ygbvA This podcast]] on DNAngel.
''Manga/DNAngel''.
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->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot."''

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->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) Creator/ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot."''
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-> ''" It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this [the Red Wedding] marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts.''"

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-> ''" It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this [the Red Wedding] marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts.''"
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-> ''" It would be one thing if the narrative space created by the clear-out were interesting. But instead this [the Red Wedding] marks the point where ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire fully commits to its plan of focusing on an ever expanding spaghetti of subplots instead of actually paying off its most interesting promises and concepts.''"
-->-- '''Phil Sandifer''', "[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/a-brief-treatise-on-the-rules-of-thrones-309-the-rains-of-castamere/ A Brief Treatise on the Rules of Thrones 3.09: The Rains of Castamere]]"
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->''Don't tell me there's more! I'm lost enough as it is!''
-->--'''Sora''', ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' again

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-->-- Dialogue in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''

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-->-- Dialogue Actual dialogue in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''
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->''Don't tell me there's more! I'm lost enough as it is!''
-->--'''Sora''', ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' again
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->[[BlatantLies Mystery]] [[RunningGag solved!]]

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->[[BlatantLies ->''"[[BlatantLies Mystery]] [[RunningGag solved!]]solved!]]"''



->That just raises ''further'' questions!

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->That ->''"That just raises ''further'' questions!questions!"''



->Remember, answers are only questions with funny hats.
-->-- '''The Cheshire Cat''', ''[[BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]]''

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->Remember, ->''"Remember, answers are only questions with funny hats.
hats."''
-->-- '''The Cheshire Cat''', ''[[BookwormAdventures ''[[VideoGame/BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]]''



->Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: "For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting." Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since.

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->Jeff ->''"Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: "For 'For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting." ' Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since."''



->I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience.

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->I ->''"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."''



->I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous]], there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense.
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''[[{{Film/X-Men}} X-Men 3: The Last Stand]]''

->Sometimes it really would be easier to just write about the damn characters.
-->--'''Creator/RogerEbert'''

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->I ->''"I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous]], there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief you’re willing to accept that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense.
-->--'''Chris
nonsense."''
-->-- '''Chris
Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''[[{{Film/X-Men}} X-Men 3: The Last Stand]]''

->Sometimes ->''"Sometimes it really would be easier to just write about the damn characters.
-->--'''Creator/RogerEbert'''
characters."''
-->-- '''Creator/RogerEbert'''



->Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot.

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->Tom ->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot."''



->With all those characters and plotlines going on it's apparently really easy to lose track of what you're doing. That's why even good shows have plotlines that they've just discarded like so many Egg [=McMuffin=] wrappers on the street.

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->With ->''With all those characters and plotlines going on it's apparently really easy to lose track of what you're doing. That's why even good shows have plotlines that they've just discarded like so many Egg [=McMuffin=] wrappers on the street.''



->It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively.

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->It ->''"It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively."''



->Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set.

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->Play ->''"Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''X-Files'' box set."''



->'So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours.

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->'So ->'""So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours."''
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-->--'''Dan Shive''', ''ElGoonishShive'' (in the commentary on [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2063 this strip]])

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-->--'''Dan Shive''', ''ElGoonishShive'' ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' (in the commentary on [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2063 this strip]])

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->George Pravda is such an odd choice to play the Castellan; whilst he is both officious and likable, his delivery is unusual and he occasionally looks like he hasn't got a clue what he is talking about. Considering the generally baffling affair for the Castellan to unravel, that is not an unrealistic reaction.
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-deadly-assassin-written-by-robert_15.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} "The Deadly Assassin"]]



->Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set.

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->It feels like a stab in the gut to the audience, as though Carter is suggesting that they [[ViewersAreGoldfish haven't been paying attention]] and need to have the whole arc explained to them in great detail. Instead it is Carter who has been at fault, failing to express his unwieldy arc plot in an articulate fashion, throwing up several dramatic dead ends...Reminding the audience that they have been [[TheChrisCarterEffect sold a turkey]] and what should have been a relatively simple alien invasion plot being over complicated to the nth degree is not my idea of celebrating this show effectively.
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-x-files-season-nine.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles'', "The Truth"

->Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' ''X-Files'' box set.
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->That only raises ''further'' questions!

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->That only just raises ''further'' questions!
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!!!Said by the creators themselves

->This comic is convoluted and has a ridiculously huge archive. The story section alone has over 2,000 comics full of weird magic-babble.
-->--'''Dan Shive''', ''ElGoonishShive'' (in the commentary on [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2063 this strip]])

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->'''Mike:''' Good ol' Creator/DonaldPleasence.\\
'''Jay:''' Who went to be the best part of a continuing series that just got worse and worse. He was always the best part -- because [[HamAndCheese he just got crazier and crazier]] as time went on. He was overacting so much in ''[[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]''...Poor Donald Pleasence. What a horrible way to end your career.\\

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->'''Mike:''' Good ol' Creator/DonaldPleasence.\\
'''Jay:''' Who went to be the best part of a continuing series that just got worse and worse. He was always the best part -- because [[HamAndCheese he just got crazier and crazier]] as time went on. He was overacting so much in ''[[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]''...
->'''Jay''': Poor Donald Pleasence. Creator/DonaldPleasence. What a horrible way to [[ClassicallyTrainedExtra end your career.\\]]\\



->Perhaps their inability to create real conflict and drama is why Kurtzman and Orci instead overcomplicate their screenplays, usually by bringing in [[ManBehindTheMan shadowy conspiracy elements]]. The Khan/Section 31 boondoggle of ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' is well known by now (and really, what was up with that insane nonsense about [[VoodooShark hiding people inside torpedoes]], anyway?). ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Amazing Spider-Man 2]]'' also has a subplot (admittedly, borrowed from the comics) about a big Oscorp conspiracy where Peter has to learn the shocking truth about his father. And even in something like ''{{Film/Transformers}}'', you have [[NoSuchAgency a secret branch of the government]] called 'Sector 7' that’s somehow able to cover up the existence of 30 foot tall robots...People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible.

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->Perhaps their inability to create real conflict and drama is why Kurtzman and Orci instead overcomplicate their screenplays, usually by bringing in [[ManBehindTheMan shadowy conspiracy elements]]. The Khan/Section 31 boondoggle of ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' is well known by now (and really, what was up with that insane nonsense about [[VoodooShark hiding people inside torpedoes]], anyway?). ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Amazing Spider-Man 2]]'' also has a subplot (admittedly, borrowed from the comics) about a big Oscorp conspiracy where Peter has to learn the shocking truth about his father. And even in something like ''{{Film/Transformers}}'', you have [[NoSuchAgency a secret branch of the government]] called 'Sector 7' that’s somehow able to cover up the existence of 30 foot tall robots...People ->People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible.



->Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot. Its like this movie is so concerned with telling a labyrinth story that we forget about the jokes.

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->Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot. Its like this movie is so concerned with telling a labyrinth story that we forget about the jokes.



->I'm going to recount as much of the story as I can before my brain starts to hurt. Solid Snake is a cloned mercenary who is suffering from [[RapidAging premature aging]] due to a planned obsolescence scheme worthy of Microsoft... Solid Snake is tasked with [[ARareSentence assassination of his evil clone brother who is dead but lives on through his possessed arm which was crafted onto the body of]]-- ''oh Christ'', '''I can't go on, this shit is bananas!''' Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set.

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->I'm going to recount as much of the story as I can before my brain starts to hurt. Solid Snake is a cloned mercenary who is suffering from [[RapidAging premature aging]] due to a planned obsolescence scheme worthy of Microsoft... Solid Snake is tasked with [[ARareSentence assassination of his evil clone brother who is dead but lives on through his possessed arm which was crafted onto the body of]]-- ''oh Christ'', '''I can't go on, this shit is bananas!''' Play ->Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set.
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->'''Mickey:''' You See! It all makes sense!\\

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->'''Mickey:''' You See! see? It all makes sense!\\
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->I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking 'dude, [[MST3KMantra you’re being ridiculous]], there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and you’re [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief willing to accept that]],' we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense.

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->I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking 'dude, [[MST3KMantra "''[[MST3KMantra dude, you’re being ridiculous]], there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and you’re [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief you’re willing to accept that]],' that]]''," we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense.

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->''"[[BlatantLies Mystery]] [[RunningGag solved!]]"''

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->''"[[BlatantLies ->[[BlatantLies Mystery]] [[RunningGag solved!]]"''solved!]]



->''"That only raises ''further'' questions!"''

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->''"That ->That only raises ''further'' questions!"''questions!



->''"Remember, answers are only questions with funny hats."''

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->''"Remember, ->Remember, answers are only questions with funny hats."''



!!!On works
->''"Jeff Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: "For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting." Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since."''

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!!!On works
->''"Jeff
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->Jeff
Grubb and later Steven Schend and Eric Boyd always religiously followed Ed's guideline: "For every one of my loose ends you tie up or explain, create three new ones and weave them into the Realms, to keep it alive and interesting." Pity that guideline somehow gotten forgotten or repudiated, since."''



->''"I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."''

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->''"I ->I don't always understand the plots of these films until I see them with an audience."''



->''"Sometimes it really would be easier to just write about the damn characters."''

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->''"Sometimes ->I was sitting here thinking of how improbable it was that there would be a liquid that you could inject into someone that could permanently rearrange their genetic structure in a matter of seconds. Then, just as I was thinking 'dude, [[MST3KMantra you’re being ridiculous]], there is a person in this movie who can control the weather with her mind and you’re [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief willing to accept that]],' we get to the part where Angel’s dad buys Alcatraz and turns it into a science lab. Congratulations, ''X-Men 3'': You have found the definitive line between what I’ll accept and what is bat-sh** crazy nonsense.
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-x-men-3-the-last-stand-2006-part-on/ on]] ''[[{{Film/X-Men}} X-Men 3: The Last Stand]]''

->Sometimes
it really would be easier to just write about the damn characters."''



'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, magic stones...\\

to:

'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, [[GottaCatchEmAll magic stones...\\]]\\



-->-- '''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' riffs ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''

->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing... conflict, I guess?\\
'''Matt''': I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.\\
'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-bloodrayne-2005-part-one/ on]] ''{{Film/Bloodrayne}}''

->''"Perhaps their inability to create real conflict and drama is why Kurtzman and Orci instead overcomplicate their screenplays, usually by bringing in [[ManBehindTheMan shadowy conspiracy elements]]. The Khan/Section 31 boondoggle of ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' is well known by now (and really, what was up with that insane nonsense about [[VoodooShark hiding people inside torpedoes]], anyway?). ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Amazing Spider-Man 2]]'' also has a subplot (admittedly, borrowed from the comics) about a big Oscorp conspiracy where Peter has to learn the shocking truth about his father. And even in something like ''{{Film/Transformers}}'', you have [[NoSuchAgency a secret branch of the government]] called 'Sector 7' that’s somehow able to cover up the existence of 30 foot tall robots...People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible."''

to:

-->-- '''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' ''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' riffs ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''

->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing... conflict, I guess?\\
'''Matt''': I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.\\
'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-bloodrayne-2005-part-one/ on]] ''{{Film/Bloodrayne}}''

->''"Perhaps
->Perhaps their inability to create real conflict and drama is why Kurtzman and Orci instead overcomplicate their screenplays, usually by bringing in [[ManBehindTheMan shadowy conspiracy elements]]. The Khan/Section 31 boondoggle of ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' is well known by now (and really, what was up with that insane nonsense about [[VoodooShark hiding people inside torpedoes]], anyway?). ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Amazing Spider-Man 2]]'' also has a subplot (admittedly, borrowed from the comics) about a big Oscorp conspiracy where Peter has to learn the shocking truth about his father. And even in something like ''{{Film/Transformers}}'', you have [[NoSuchAgency a secret branch of the government]] called 'Sector 7' that’s somehow able to cover up the existence of 30 foot tall robots...People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible."''



->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot. Its like this movie is so concerned with telling a labyrinth story that we forget about the jokes."''

to:

->''"Tom ->Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot. Its like this movie is so concerned with telling a labyrinth story that we forget about the jokes."''



->''"George Pravda is such an odd choice to play the Castellan; whilst he is both officious and likable, his delivery is unusual and he occasionally looks like he hasn't got a clue what he is talking about. Considering the generally baffling affair for the Castellan to unravel, that is not an unrealistic reaction."''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-deadly-assassin-written-by-robert_15.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} "The Deadly Assassin"]]

->''"With all those characters and plotlines going on it's apparently really easy to lose track of what you're doing. That's why even good shows have plotlines that they've just discarded like so many Egg [=McMuffin=] wrappers on the street."''

to:

->''"George ->George Pravda is such an odd choice to play the Castellan; whilst he is both officious and likable, his delivery is unusual and he occasionally looks like he hasn't got a clue what he is talking about. Considering the generally baffling affair for the Castellan to unravel, that is not an unrealistic reaction."''
reaction.
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-deadly-assassin-written-by-robert_15.html Doc Oho]]''' Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} "The Deadly Assassin"]]

->''"With ->With all those characters and plotlines going on it's apparently really easy to lose track of what you're doing. That's why even good shows have plotlines that they've just discarded like so many Egg [=McMuffin=] wrappers on the street."''



->''"I'm going to recount as much of the story as I can before my brain starts to hurt. Solid Snake is a cloned mercenary who is suffering from [[RapidAging premature aging]] due to a planned obsolescence scheme worthy of Microsoft... Solid Snake is tasked with [[ARareSentence assassination of his evil clone brother who is dead but lives on through his possessed arm which was crafted onto the body of]]-- ''oh Christ'', '''I can't go on, this shit is bananas!''' Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set."''

to:

->''"I'm ->I'm going to recount as much of the story as I can before my brain starts to hurt. Solid Snake is a cloned mercenary who is suffering from [[RapidAging premature aging]] due to a planned obsolescence scheme worthy of Microsoft... Solid Snake is tasked with [[ARareSentence assassination of his evil clone brother who is dead but lives on through his possessed arm which was crafted onto the body of]]-- ''oh Christ'', '''I can't go on, this shit is bananas!''' Play the games yourself if you want to know what's going on, although [[ContinuityLockout I can't guarantee that that will be enough.]] To truly get into the mindset of Creator/HideoKojima you'll have to do something pretty drastic. Probably involving experimental brain surgery and the complete ''[[Series/TheXFiles X-Files]]'' box set."''



->''"Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they’re wrong. The story doesn’t make any sense. It’s certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it."''

to:

->''"Ever ->Ever since the game was released, people who enjoy ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Sons of Liberty]]'' have defended its story by saying that it all makes sense if you really analyze it. It takes a lot of work to sort out the details, but it turns out that when you really analyze the story, they’re wrong. The story doesn’t make any sense. It’s certainly not terrible by videogame standards, but it does get [[{{Narm}} more embarrassing]] the closer you inspect it."''



->''"'So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours."''

to:

->''"'So ->'So you got this high-tech isolationist civilization, yeah? And the moon, see -- the moon is where all the monsters in the world come from. They just get together in a big bunch and just like, fall down from the moon. Get what I'm saying? Anyway, but these guys from this futuristic city build this giant floating monolith -- you know, real ''[[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey Space Odyssey]]'' -- that they can use trigger this effect. So its evil ruler -- who's one of our two witches -- is gonna use this thing to...to...guys, sorry, guys. Hold on. I am ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs blasted]]''.' Then Nojima begins [[LaughingMad ceaselessly guffawing]] for five solid hours."''
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->'''Mike:''' Good ol' Creator/DonaldPleasence.
->'''Jay:''' Who went to be the best part of a continuing series that just got worse and worse. He was always the best part -- because [[HamAndCheese he just got crazier and crazier]] as time went on. He was overacting so much in ''[[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]''...Poor Donald Pleasence. What a horrible way to end your career.
->'''Rich:''' What is the original ending?
->'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, magic stones...
->'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Myers' a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.

to:

->'''Mike:''' Good ol' Creator/DonaldPleasence.
->'''Jay:'''
Creator/DonaldPleasence.\\
'''Jay:'''
Who went to be the best part of a continuing series that just got worse and worse. He was always the best part -- because [[HamAndCheese he just got crazier and crazier]] as time went on. He was overacting so much in ''[[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]''...Poor Donald Pleasence. What a horrible way to end your career.
->'''Rich:'''
career.\\
'''Rich:'''
What is the original ending?
->'''Jay:'''
ending?\\
'''Jay:'''
Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, magic stones...
->'''Rich:'''
stones...\\
'''Rich:'''
''(guffaws)'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Myers' a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.



->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing... conflict, I guess?
->'''Matt''': I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.
->'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]

to:

->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing... conflict, I guess?
->'''Matt''':
guess?\\
'''Matt''':
I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.
->'''Chris''':
about.\\
'''Chris''':
[[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]
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-->--'''Tom Siddell''', ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt''

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-->--'''Tom -->-- '''Tom Siddell''', ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt''



-->--'''Hermes Conrad''', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''

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-->--'''Hermes -->-- '''Hermes Conrad''', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''



-->--Dialogue in VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII

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-->--Dialogue -->-- Dialogue in VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII
''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''



-->--'''The Cheshire Cat''', ''[[BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]]''

to:

-->--'''The -->-- '''The Cheshire Cat''', ''[[BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]]''



->'''Mike:''' Good ol' Creator/DonaldPleasance.
->'''Jay:''' Who went to be the best part of a continuing series that just got worse and worse. He was always the best part -- because [[HamAndCheese he just got crazier and crazier]] as time went on. He was overacting so much in ''[[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]''...Poor Donald Pleasance. What a horrible way to end your career.

to:

->'''Mike:''' Good ol' Creator/DonaldPleasance.
Creator/DonaldPleasence.
->'''Jay:''' Who went to be the best part of a continuing series that just got worse and worse. He was always the best part -- because [[HamAndCheese he just got crazier and crazier]] as time went on. He was overacting so much in ''[[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]''...Poor Donald Pleasance.Pleasence. What a horrible way to end your career.



->'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Mayer's a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
-->--'''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' riffs ''{{Film/Halloween 1978}}''

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->'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Mayer's Myers' a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
-->--'''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' -->-- '''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' riffs ''{{Film/Halloween ''Film/{{Halloween 1978}}''
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->'''Mike:''' Good ol' DonaldPleasance.

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->'''Mike:''' Good ol' DonaldPleasance.Creator/DonaldPleasance.



-->--'''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' riffs ''{{Film/Halloween}}''

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-->--'''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' riffs ''{{Film/Halloween}}''
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->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing, but also wants MichelleRodriguez to kill all her Brimstone Bros, so… conflict, I guess?

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->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing, but also wants MichelleRodriguez to kill all her Brimstone Bros, so… thing... conflict, I guess?

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->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing, but also wants MichelleRodriguez to kill all her Brimstone Bros, so… conflict, I guess?
->'''Matt''': I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.
->'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-bloodrayne-2005-part-one/ on]] ''{{Film/Bloodrayne}}''



->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing, but also wants MichelleRodriguez to kill all her Brimstone Bros, so… conflict, I guess?\\
'''Matt''': I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.\\
'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-bloodrayne-2005-part-one/ on]] ''{{Film/Bloodrayne}}''
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->'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' In'nt kinda funny, what happened to the Halloween series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Mayer's a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.

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->'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' In'nt Isn't it kinda funny, what happened to the Halloween ''Halloween'' series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Mayer's a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
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->'''Mike:''' Good ol' DonaldPleasance.
->'''Jay:''' Who went to be the best part of a continuing series that just got worse and worse. He was always the best part -- because [[HamAndCheese he just got crazier and crazier]] as time went on. He was overacting so much in ''[[Film/HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers Halloween 6]]''...Poor Donald Pleasance. What a horrible way to end your career.
->'''Rich:''' What is the original ending?
->'''Jay:''' Oh, God. It's a whole thing with this cult, and there's, like, magic stones...
->'''Rich:''' ''(guffaws)'' In'nt kinda funny, what happened to the Halloween series? It started out just about a serial killer. Michael Mayer's a crazy man. And then you get genetic engineering, and apparently it almost ended with ''cults and magic stones''.
-->--'''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' riffs ''{{Film/Halloween}}''

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->''"Perhaps their inability to create real conflict and drama is why Kurtzman and Orci instead overcomplicate their screenplays, usually by bringing in [[ManBehindTheMan shadowy conspiracy elements]]. The Khan/Section 31 boondoggle of ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' is well known by now (and really, what was up with that insane nonsense about [[VoodooShark hiding people inside torpedoes]], anyway?). ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Amazing Spider-Man 2]]'' also has a subplot (admittedly, borrowed from the comics) about a big Oscorp conspiracy where Peter has to learn the shocking truth about his father. And even in something like ''{{Film/Transformers}}'', you have [[NoSuchAgency a secret branch of the government]] called 'Sector 7' that’s somehow able to cover up the existence of 30 foot tall robots...People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible."''
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]

->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot. Its like this movie is so concerned with telling a labyrinth story that we forget about the jokes."''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''{{Film/Rocknrolla}}''



->''"Perhaps their inability to create real conflict and drama is why Kurtzman and Orci instead overcomplicate their screenplays, usually by bringing in [[ManBehindTheMan shadowy conspiracy elements]]. The Khan/Section 31 boondoggle of ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' is well known by now (and really, what was up with that insane nonsense about [[VoodooShark hiding people inside torpedoes]], anyway?). ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Amazing Spider-Man 2]]'' also has a subplot (admittedly, borrowed from the comics) about a big Oscorp conspiracy where Peter has to learn the shocking truth about his father. And even in something like ''{{Film/Transformers}}'', you have [[NoSuchAgency a secret branch of the government]] called 'Sector 7' that’s somehow able to cover up the existence of 30 foot tall robots...People call them lazy hacks, but I don’t think that’s true. A lazy writer would do a simple, linear, A-to-B plot. It takes [[GiftedlyBad real work]] to turn straightforward comic book/action stories into films this incomprehensible."''
-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''', [[http://www.agonybooth.com/agonizer/Kurtzman_Orci_Directing_Star_Trek_3_Venom.aspx "Kurtzman and Orci to direct (and ruin) Venom and Star Trek 3"]]

->''"Tom Wilkinson is an old school gangster who makes his money through real estate and MarkStrong is his right hand man. Plot thread two is about the new school of gangster which [[InformedAbility they don’t really explain why its “new school”]] or why its better or whatever. They are going to be lending money to Wilkinson to make a land purchase. Plot #3 involves an accountant for the new school boss (played by ThandieNewton) who is bored with life and is having a fling with small time crook GerardButler. Plot #4 is about Butler stealing money from Newton’s boss. Plot #5 is a strange sub plot where Butler has a gay romance with another person from his gang who is going to prison in a short while. Plot #6 involves Wilkinson’s son ''[who]'' steals a painting which is central to the business deal between Wilkinson and the other mob. Plot #7 is about Mark Strong and his dealings with the people around him. Plot #8 [[AdvertisedExtra completely wastes Jeremy Piven]]... And Plot #9 tries to explain [[OffToSeeTheWizard what happened to Scarecrow’s brain]]. I should not need a flow chart in following this plot. Its like this movie is so concerned with telling a labyrinth story that we forget about the jokes."''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/rocknrolla-2008-guy-ritchie/ on]] ''{{Film/Rocknrolla}}''

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->[[BlatantLies Mystery]] [[RunningGag solved!]]

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Mystery]] [[RunningGag solved!]]solved!]]"''


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->''"George Pravda is such an odd choice to play the Castellan; whilst he is both officious and likable, his delivery is unusual and he occasionally looks like he hasn't got a clue what he is talking about. Considering the generally baffling affair for the Castellan to unravel, that is not an unrealistic reaction."''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-deadly-assassin-written-by-robert_15.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/DoctorWho'', [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin}} "The Deadly Assassin"]]
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'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]\\

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'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]\\]]

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->''"Part of me wonders if ''[Danny]'' Cannon might’ve been ''[[RunningTheAsylum too much]]'' of a fan, too, considering how much he tries to cram into 90 minutes. There’s Mega City stuff, Cursed Earth stuff, mutants, robots, clones… It stops just short of adding in Judge Death, but I would not have been surprised if he showed up. He’s in [[LicensedGame the SNES game]], after all."''
-->--'''Chris Sims''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-judge-dredd-part-one/ on]] ''Film/JudgeDredd'' (1995)

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->''"Part ->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of me wonders if ''[Danny]'' Cannon might’ve been ''[[RunningTheAsylum too much]]'' of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a fan, too, considering how much he tries to cram into 90 minutes. There’s Mega City stuff, Cursed Earth stuff, mutants, robots, clones… It stops just short of adding in Judge Death, little more laid back about the whole thing, but also wants MichelleRodriguez to kill all her Brimstone Bros, so… conflict, I would not have been surprised if he showed up. He’s in [[LicensedGame the SNES game]], after all."''
guess?\\
'''Matt''': I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.\\
'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]\\
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-judge-dredd-part-one/ com/comicsalliance-reviews-bloodrayne-2005-part-one/ on]] ''Film/JudgeDredd'' (1995)
''{{Film/Bloodrayne}}''
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->'''Chris''': As near as I can figure, [[Creator/BillyZane BloodZane]] wants to stage a coup to take over from [[BenKingsley Kingsley]], who is one of those destroy-all-the-humans types. Zane is a little more laid back about the whole thing, but also wants MichelleRodriguez to kill all her Brimstone Bros, so… conflict, I guess?\\
'''Matt''': He’s ostensibly the leader of the Brimstone Posse, and he lives in Brimstone Castle which houses…secrets! The vampire bite marks on his neck look kind of fresh, too. I still don’t really know anything he’s talking about.\\
'''Chris''': [[{{Film/Chinatown}} Forget it, Matt. It’s Uwe-town.]]
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''Matt Wilson''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-bloodrayne-2005-part-one/ on]] ''{{Film/Bloodrayne}}''
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->''"Part of me wonders if ''[Danny]'' Cannon might’ve been ''[[RunningTheAsylum too much]]'' of a fan, too, considering how much he tries to cram into 90 minutes. There’s Mega City stuff, Cursed Earth stuff, mutants, robots, clones… It stops just short of adding in Judge Death, but I would not have been surprised if he showed up. He’s in [[LicensedGame the SNES game]], after all."''
-->--'''Chris Sims''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/comicsalliance-reviews-judge-dredd-part-one/ on]] ''Film/JudgeDredd'' (1995)

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