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* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob's given what was left in the armory. His quest is important, but the war against Evulz has drained the supply. The sword's rusty but was well kept when it was owned perviously, and the shield is actually pretty good.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': The kingdom bob comes from is one of the few that remained unattacked. To prevent an attack the good king sends Bob with the best weapons he can part with. As you adventure farther and father, you find out just why your starting weapons can easily be replaced by better ones: The kingdom is actually poor and has few things going for it aside from farming, and the reason they weren't attacked wasn't because they could defend themselves, it was because they just weren't worth it.
* '''Implied''': It's never shown in the inventory, but after a few points, the sword and shield Bob are using is changed and he gets a stat boost when this happens. By the end of the game, if one goes out of their way to not gain stats, they see the starting and middle boosts are vastly improved.
* '''Played For Laughs''': When passing by a lake, Bob fishes for a bit and catches one, entering a random battle with it equipped he will say "Wow, this is better than that junk the king gave me. Why don't the guards just use fish?"
* '''Played For Drama''': The equipment shows what the king thinks of Bob, while one with less skill gets weapons that are much better than the poor items than Bob got, he considers multiple times betraying everybody and simply joining Evulz because of how clear they are making it that they want him to die on this quest.
* '''Implied''': It's never shown in the inventory, but after a few points, the sword and shield Bob are using is changed and he gets a stat boost when this happens. By the end of the game, if one goes out of their way to not gain stats, they see the starting and middle boosts are vastly improved.
* '''Played For Laughs''': When passing by a lake, Bob fishes for a bit and catches one, entering a random battle with it equipped he will say "Wow, this is better than that junk the king gave me. Why don't the guards just use fish?"
* '''Played For Drama''': The equipment shows what the king thinks of Bob, while one with less skill gets weapons that are much better than the poor items than Bob got, he considers multiple times betraying everybody and simply joining Evulz because of how clear they are making it that they want him to die on this quest.
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** All of reality will be erased if Bob begins fails his quest with an actual, literal herring.mission. Bob is given no equipment at all, despite several powerful characters knowing about the crisis.
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** Bob begins his quest with an actual, literal herring.
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* '''Averted''': Bob begins his quest with the best equipment he or his king could afford.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Bob begins his quest with the best equipment he or his king couldafford.afford.
** Bob starts off with endgame weapon and gear because he's playing on NewGamePlus Mode.
** Bob begins his quest with the best equipment he or his king could
** Bob starts off with endgame weapon and gear because he's playing on NewGamePlus Mode.
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** Bob starts with just a shield, proceeds to beat every enemy to death with it, the whole way through.
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** Bob starts with just a shield, [[ShieldBash proceeds to beat every enemy to death with it, it]], the whole way through.through.
** Bob starts with no equipment whatsoever, not even armor! Hell! Everything he has at the start of the story is his GoofyPrintUnderwear! ...And the king still thinks he's over-equipped!
** Bob starts with no equipment whatsoever, not even armor! Hell! Everything he has at the start of the story is his GoofyPrintUnderwear! ...And the king still thinks he's over-equipped!
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* '''Exploited''': ???Drill Sergeant Carl gives his new recruits a mission to take on a gruelling exercise with only a small knife and several changes of underwear... because he wants them to improvise and think for themselves instead of relying on equipment they might not always have.
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* '''Invoked''': [[TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames "There is no time! Your sword is enough!"]]
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* '''Invoked''': [[TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames "There is no time! Your sword is enough!"]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, and he ends up stuck on the receiving end of a CurbStompBattle very early on.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, but he is so good he manage to do it anyway.
** Bob's dagger is weak, but he isn't.
** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, but he is so good he manage to do it anyway.
** Bob's dagger is weak, but he isn't.
** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, and he ends up stuck on the receiving end of a CurbStompBattle very early on.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, but he is so good he manage to do it anyway.
** Bob's dagger is weak, but he isn't.
** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.
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** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, but he is so good he manage to do it anyway.
** Bob's dagger is weak, but he isn't.
** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.
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** Bob is the latest in a long line of would-be heroes who have claimed they could defeat Emperor Evulz, and all of the previous ones have been defeated and subverted. The King is holding back on the goodies because he doesn't want to risk having such valuable equipment falling into enemy hands and wants to be sure Bob is actually the Chosen One before he trusts him with anything beyond easily replaceable standard-issue gear.
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** Bob and the King have no idea what they're sending bob to. Bob might have the sharpest sword in the kingdom and the best protection, but where he's going that counts for very little, possibly the best weapons are made out of pure magic rather than materiel, meaning that Bob did have good equipment, but the situation made it either worthless in comparison or his weapon just isn't as useful.
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** Bob begins his quest with [[{{BFG}} a bazooka]], and finds [[BeyondTheImpossible progressively more powerful weapons]].
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** Bob begins his quest with [[{{BFG}} a bazooka]], and finds [[BeyondTheImpossible [[SerialEscalation progressively more powerful weapons]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Bob begins his quest with an actual, literal herring.
** Bob begins his quest with an actual, literal herring.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Emperor Evulz stole most king's and Bob's equipment, leaving them with the weakest one.
** Emperor Evulz stole most king's and Bob's equipment, leaving them with the weakest one.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob begins his quest with [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Black Hole Generator]], and finds progressively weaker ones.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Bob begins his quest with [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Black Hole Generator]], and finds progressively weaker ones.
** Bob begins his quest with [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Black Hole Generator]], and finds progressively weaker ones.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob begins his quest with a knife and a shield, but there is a shop nearby that sells [[InfinityPlusOneSword Legendary Sword of Legendary Overkill]].
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob begins his quest with a knife and a shield, but there is a shop nearby that sells [[InfinityPlusOneSword Legendary Sword of Legendary Overkill]].
** Bob begins his quest with a knife and a shield, but there is a shop nearby that sells [[InfinityPlusOneSword Legendary Sword of Legendary Overkill]].
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** ...But [[TeaserEquipment it costs 100000 gold.]]
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* '''Parodied''': Bob begins his quest with [[{{BFG}} a bazooka]], and finds [[BeyondTheImpossible progressively more powerful weapons]].
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** Bob begins his quest with [[{{BFG}} a bazooka]], and finds [[BeyondTheImpossible progressively more powerful weapons]].
** Bob begins his quest with [[{{BFG}} a bazooka]], and finds [[BeyondTheImpossible progressively more powerful weapons]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
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** Bob's dagger is weak, but he isn't.
** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.
** Bob's pebbles are useless at the beginning, and he gets pounded into the ground. Bob practices [[BruceLee ten thousand times]] at [[DavidVersusGoliath throwing the pebbles]] and they become an adequate weapon.
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** Bob starts with just a shield, proceeds to beat every enemy to death with it, the whole way through.
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** The king/whoever king who sent Bob of was just GeneraSavy GenreSavvy and knew that he would be fine without.without the best equipment.
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** The king/whoever sent Bob of was just GeneraSavy and knew that he would be fine without.
** Bob is questing for a legendary sword, a shield that can block anything, and armor that has amazing effects on it's wearer, as either part of or the whole quest, so it might just seem prudent to give Bob enough that he can protect himself against known monster around [[GreenHillZone the village/city he is leaving from]], possibly thinking that he will get at least one of the set before he gets into truly deadly areas or just doesn't know that next village over they have a more deadly monster problem.
** Bob is questing for a legendary sword, a shield that can block anything, and armor that has amazing effects on it's wearer, as either part of or the whole quest, so it might just seem prudent to give Bob enough that he can protect himself against known monster around [[GreenHillZone the village/city he is leaving from]], possibly thinking that he will get at least one of the set before he gets into truly deadly areas or just doesn't know that next village over they have a more deadly monster problem.
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** Before he can begin his quest, Bob must turn in all his equipment and cash and get them replaced with a standard issue knife and shield.
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** Bob is a private citizen who set of on his own without proper gear.
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** Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, but he is so good he manage to do it anyway.
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** Alternately, Bob must use the InfinityPlusOneSword to...[[MundaneUtility chop some very large vegetables]] grown by the resident GreenThumb.
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** To turn the wooden sword into the InfinityPlusOneSword, you must defeat the BonusBoss ''with the wooden sword equipped.''
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'''Basic Trope''': The player begins with a weakest incredibly weak equipment.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob begins his quest with a wooden stick.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob begins his quest with a wooden stick.an actual, literal herring.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob begins his quest with a knife and a shield but there is a shop nearby that sells a sword said to be incredibly powerful but it costs 100000 gold but a weak slime nearby drops that much gold but when you buy the sword it has almost as bad stats as the knife
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob begins his quest with a knife and a shield but there is a shop nearby that sells a sword said to be incredibly powerful but it powerful. The sword costs 100000 gold gold, but Bob find that much money after he kills the a very weak slime nearby drops that much gold but when you buy nearby. When he buys the sword it has is almost as bad stats weak as the knifeknife.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Bob begins his quest with a knife and a shield but there is a shop nearby that sells a sword said to be incredibly powerful but it costs 100000 gold but a weak slime nearby drops that much gold but when you buy the sword it has almost as bad stats as the knife
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** Bob begins his quest with an unassuming wooden sword that later turns out to be the InfinityPlusOneSword in disguise.
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** The king that sent Bob into his mission [[TheQuisling is actively supporting Emperor Evulz from the shadows]], so he sent Bob equipped with sub-par gear and into a dangerous mission with [[UriahGambit the hope of getting rid of him]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': ???Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, [[StealthBasedGame so he doesn't]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': ???Bob's starting weaponry is woefully inadequate to take out just about any opponent, and he ends up stuck on the receiving end of a CurbStompBattle very early on.
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* '''Straight''': King of Troperia sends [[TheHero Bob]] on a quest to defeat [[EvilOverlord Emperor Evulz]]. He's equipped with a knife and a shield.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob begins his quest with a wooden stick.
* '''Justified''': Emperor Evulz stole most king's and Bob's equipment, leaving them with the
* '''Inverted''': Bob begins his quest with [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Black Hole Generator]], and finds progressively weaker ones.
* '''Subverted''': Bob begins his quest with a knife and a shield, but there is a shop nearby that sells [[InfinityPlusOneSword Legendary Sword of Legendary Overkill]].
* '''Double Subverted''': ...But it costs 100000 gold.
* '''Parodied''': Bob begins his quest with [[{{BFG}} a bazooka]], and finds [[BeyondTheImpossible progressively more powerful weapons]].
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* '''Averted''': Bob begins his quest with the best equipment he or his king could afford.
* '''Enforced''': "We don't want Bob to
* '''Lampshaded''': "Kill Evulz? With ''this''!?"
* '''Invoked''': [[TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames "There is no time! Your sword is enough!"]]
* '''Defied''': "I will ''not'' go until you give me something better!"
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* '''Conversed''': "Don't you find it ridicoulous for heroes famed worldwide to go on a quest to kill [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu with a sword]]?
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