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** [[TrueCompanions Jamal's friends]] help him through his depression. He still likes to crack a good joke or two, but he no longer feel he ''has'' in order to give his life meaning.
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** [[TrueCompanions Jamal's friends]] help him through his depression. He still likes to crack a good joke or two, but he no longer feel he
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** Jamal and his teammates live in a CrapsackWorld and they are going against an all powerful Evil Empire. Jamal tells jokes and acts silly, not to demean himself, but to make sure the morale of his teammates stays high with laughter. In addition, he knows when to be silly to lighten the mood and to be dead serious. Not to mention, he's a [[BewareTheSillyOnes a total badass]] who is definitely a valuable asset to the team. His teammates appreciate him dearly for this.
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** Jamal and his teammates live in a CrapsackWorld and they are going up against an all powerful Evil Empire. Jamal tells jokes and acts silly, not to demean himself, but to make sure the morale of his teammates stays high with laughter. In addition, he knows when to be silly to lighten the mood and to be dead serious. Not to mention, he's a [[BewareTheSillyOnes a total badass]] who is definitely a valuable asset to the team. His teammates appreciate him dearly for this.
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** Jamal lives in a very racist environment and his goofy behavior is a defense mechanism to let the White people who live there know he isn't a ScaryBlackMan.
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** Jamal lives in a very an ''extremely'' racist environment and his goofy behavior is a defense mechanism to let the White people who live there know he isn't a ScaryBlackMan. ScaryBlackMan.
** Jamal's teammates get ''really'' annoyed with his antics and they decide to abandon him.
** Jamal's teammates get ''really'' annoyed with his antics and they decide to abandon him.
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** After leaving behind that environment, Jamal realizes he's ActuallyPrettyFunny, so he decides to reclaim his defense mechanism to make himself some money as a comedian.
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** After leaving behind that environment, Jamal realizes he's ActuallyPrettyFunny, so he decides to reclaim repurpose his defense mechanism as a way to make himself some money as a comedian. comedian.
** Jamal and his teammates live in a CrapsackWorld and they are going against an all powerful Evil Empire. Jamal tells jokes and acts silly, not to demean himself, but to make sure the morale of his teammates stays high with laughter. In addition, he knows when to be silly to lighten the mood and to be dead serious. Not to mention, he's a [[BewareTheSillyOnes a total badass]] who is definitely a valuable asset to the team. His teammates appreciate him dearly for this.
** Jamal and his teammates live in a CrapsackWorld and they are going against an all powerful Evil Empire. Jamal tells jokes and acts silly, not to demean himself, but to make sure the morale of his teammates stays high with laughter. In addition, he knows when to be silly to lighten the mood and to be dead serious. Not to mention, he's a [[BewareTheSillyOnes a total badass]] who is definitely a valuable asset to the team. His teammates appreciate him dearly for this.
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** [[TrueCompanions Jamal's friends]] help him through his depression. He still likes to crack a good joke or two, but he no longer feel he ''has'' to give his life meaning.
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** [[TrueCompanions Jamal's friends]] help him through his depression. He still likes to crack a good joke or two, but he no longer feel he ''has'' in order to give his life meaning.
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** Jamal has a [[DarkAndTroubledPast] and is [[SadClown a very depressed man]]. For him, making others laugh through being silly is the only thing that gives his own life any meaning.
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** Jamal has a [[DarkAndTroubledPast] DarkAndTroubledPast and is [[SadClown a very depressed man]]. For him, making others laugh through being silly is the only thing that gives his own life any meaning.meaning.
** Jamal lives in a very racist environment and his goofy behavior is a defense mechanism to let the White people who live there know he isn't a ScaryBlackMan.
** Jamal lives in a very racist environment and his goofy behavior is a defense mechanism to let the White people who live there know he isn't a ScaryBlackMan.
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** Jamal has a [[DarkAndTroubledPast] and is [[SadClown a very depressed man]]. For him, making others laugh through being silly is the only thing that gives his own life any meaning.
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** [[TrueCompanions Jamal's friends]] help him through his depression. He still likes to crack a good joke or two, but he no longer feel he ''has'' to give his life meaning.
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** Jamal is the [[ThePollyanna Pollyanna]] who always tries to find ways to cheer people up.
** Jamal is a FlawlessToken who doesn't have any quirks [[GenericGuy or much of a stand-out personality]] at all.
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** Jamal is the FlawlessToken who doesn't have any quirks [[GenericGuy or much of a stand-out personality]] at all.
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** Jamal is TheEeyore.
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** Jamal is TheEeyore.the [[TheEeyore Eeyore]].
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** Jamal is an aspiring comedian, and he's using working on his material.
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** Tom Jamal is the original [[Literature/UncleTomsCabin Uncle Tom]], not one of [[AdaptationDisplacement the countless parodies that named this trope]].
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* '''Discussed''':"Jamal, what's with the [[JiveTurkey shuckin' and jivin'?]] [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously?]]"
* '''Conversed''':"Wow. A black character acting like a buffoon. [[SarcasmMode How original.]]"
* '''Conversed''':"Wow. A black character acting like a buffoon. [[SarcasmMode How original.]]"
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* '''Discussed''':"Jamal, what's with '''Discussed''': "Why did they have to play Jamal like a ripoff of a Chris Tucker character? How is this shit STILL okay?"
* '''Conversed''': "Heard you turned down the[[JiveTurkey shuckin' and jivin'?]] [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously?]]"
* '''Conversed''':"Wow. A blackrole of Jamal in the adaptation of ''The Tropers''." "Dude. Don't even get me started. The minute I started reading the script, I was actually, legitimately irate." "I had heard that it was not a good take on the character, but damn." "'Bad take' doesn't cut it, this was fucking coonery. They sold it to me as a deconstructive take on the character acting - he was supposed to look like a buffoon. [[SarcasmMode How original.]]"stereotypical buffoonish, 'urban' black comic relief character, but actually be a deep and multifaceted person beneath the clownish facade. I would say they lied to me, but I can't actually tell if it was deliberate or if they were so out of touch that they actually believed their own words. Now, I've played hood niggas before who actually were competent, intelligent, and deep characters, and he was none of these things. He was dumb as fuck, loud and obnoxious and never shut up, constantly got himself into trouble and made stupid choices that he needed to be bailed out of, and his big moment to shine was mostly just him fumbling his way through to an accidentally spectacular outcome. I wouldn't have even been surprised if they had him start tapdancing or wax poetic on his love for fried chicken, watermelon, and Koolaid, that's where it was at."
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* '''Conversed''':"Wow. A black
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** Bob, the WhiteMaleLead, is the silly one, contrasted to his BlackBestFriend Jamal, who is more serious and/or outwardly intelligent.
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** Bob, the white main character of the story, is the silly one, contrasted to his BlackBestFriend Jamal, who is more serious and/or outwardly intelligent.
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** Bob is the silly one, contrasted to his BlackBestFriend Jamal, who is more serious and/or outwardly intelligent.
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** Bob Bob, the white main character of the story, is the silly one, contrasted to his BlackBestFriend Jamal, who is more serious and/or outwardly intelligent.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???DependingOnTheWriter, Jamal may or may not be a stereotype.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...However, Jamal strikes a good balance between silly and serious, reacts ''believably'' to situations and people, and has a fair amount of HiddenDepths; so he's a well-rounded and likable character who most fans genuinelly like.\\
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...However, Jamal strikes a good balance between silly and serious, reacts ''believably'' to situations and people, and has a fair amount of HiddenDepths; so he's a well-rounded and likable character who most fans genuinelly genuinely like.\\
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A few people might react negatively to him, sure, but that's [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical the innevitable inevitable baggage that comes due to people's inherent racism/bitterness]], not an intended reaction engineered by the creators themselves, who just want to create a fun and charming character.
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'''Basic Trope''': A black character as a somewhat stereotypical comic relief.
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'''Basic Trope''': A black character as a somewhat stereotypical comic relief.
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** Jamal is introduced as LargeHam. He is almost immediately told to StopBeingStereotypical, and knocks it off.
** Jamal is asked to do something funny. He
** Jamal is introduced as LargeHam. He is almost immediately told to StopBeingStereotypical, and knocks it off.
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'''Basic Trope''': A black character as a somewhat stereotypical comic relief.
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* '''Gender Inverted''': Aunt Jemimalarkey: Shaniqua is a SassyBlackWoman used for comic relief.
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'''Basic Trope''': A goofy black character, almost AlwaysMale.
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'''Basic Trope''': A goofy black character, almost AlwaysMale.character as a comic relief.
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** Or the black characters are portrayed just as serious or comedicly as the others.
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** Or the black characters are portrayed just as serious or comedicly comedic as the others.
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* '''Averted''': [[MonochromeCasting No black characters in this work]].
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** [[MonochromeCasting No black characters in thiswork]].work]].
** Or the black characters are portrayed just as serious or comedicly as the others.
** [[MonochromeCasting No black characters in this
** Or the black characters are portrayed just as serious or comedicly as the others.
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* '''Parodied''': ???Jamal has an, also black, sidekick whose job is to stop him whenever he does it.
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"UNCLE TOM WILL THINK YOU ARE FOOLISH!"
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Jamal does it because he likes to make people laugh.
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The heroes need to put on a comedy, everyone looks to Jamal, who has been serious the whole time. He plays the comic relief very well.
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** Jamal is a BunnyEarsLawyer, TheDumbledore, or something along those lines.
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** Jamal is a BunnyEarsLawyer, TheDumbledore, EccentricMentor, or something along those lines.
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* '''Discussed''':"Jamal, what's with the shuckin' and jivin'? Seriously?"
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* '''Discussed''':"Jamal, what's with the [[JiveTurkey shuckin' and jivin'? Seriously?"jivin'?]] [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously?]]"
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* '''Justified''': '''Downplayed''': Jamal is an otherwise serious character, who likes to crack some CrossesTheLineTwice jokes from time to time to (try to) ease tense situations.
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** Jamal likes to be the center of attention.
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** Jamal likes to be the center of attention.
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** Jamal knows when it's important to be serious and focused.
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* '''Double Subverted''': But he's better at being silly.
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** But he's better at being silly.
** But he's better at being silly.
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* '''Deconstructed''': As with all stereotypes, YMMV as to how true it actually is.
* '''Reconstructed''': Jamal strikes a good balance between silly and serious, and reacts ''believably'' to situations and people.
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* '''Lampshaded''':
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** [[MonochromeCasting No black characters in this work]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': As with all stereotypes, YMMV as to how true it actually is.
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*'''Reconstructed''': Jamal strikes a good balance between silly and serious, and reacts ''believably'' to situations and people.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Almost always is.
* '''Played For Drama''': Jamal has HiddenDepths, but no one is willing (or able) to look past his silliness and antics.
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'''Deconstructed''': As with all stereotypes, it can create a serious amount of UnfortunateImplications and backlash if done poorly.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...However, Jamal strikes a good balance between silly and serious, reacts ''believably'' to situations and people, and has a fair amount of HiddenDepths; so he's a well-rounded and likable character who most fans genuinelly like.\\
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