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* '''Basic Trope''': Someone who sees sexuality in [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white terms]].
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* '''Inverted''': Bob believes that [[HetIsEw heterosexual, reproductive sex between a married couple]], and traditional gender roles are deviant and wrong.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Bob believes that [[HetIsEw heterosexual, reproductive sex between a married couple]], and traditional gender roles are deviant and wrong.
** Bob believes that [[HetIsEw heterosexual, reproductive sex between a married couple]], and traditional gender roles are deviant and wrong.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob rails on Charlie and Donald for acting like a bunch of "mincing queers" -- they later find out it was a StopBeingStereotypical speech, and Bob is a StraightGay.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob rails on Charlie and Donald for acting like a bunch of "mincing queers" -- they later find out it was a StopBeingStereotypical speech, and Bob is a StraightGay.
** Bob rails on Charlie and Donald for acting like a bunch of "mincing queers" -- they later find out it was a StopBeingStereotypical speech, and Bob is a StraightGay.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...who stubbornly insists that [[ArmoredClosetGay having sex with men doesn't make him gay]].
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** ...who stubbornly insists that [[ArmoredClosetGay having sex with men doesn't make him gay]].
** ...who stubbornly insists that [[ArmoredClosetGay having sex with men doesn't make him gay]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob may be feeling insecure about his own sexuality, and puts others down (or hurts them) to make himself feel better. This may stem from any number of things, including (but not limited to) his culture and his religion.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob may be feeling insecure about his own sexuality, and puts others down (or hurts them) to make himself feel better. This may stem from any number of things, including (but not limited to) his culture and his religion.
** Bob may be feeling insecure about his own sexuality, and puts others down (or hurts them) to make himself feel better. This may stem from any number of things, including (but not limited to) his culture and his religion.
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* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong and that he need to fight to "protect" marriage, etc.
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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong and that he need to fight to "protect" marriage, etc.
** Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong and that he need to fight to "protect" marriage, etc.
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** Alternatively, Bob has religious beliefs that influence him to "hate the sin but love the sinner". He believe that there is an "the gay agenda" that hurt people by corrupting them into gayness, nut that it's best not to [[TheFundamentalist target the individuals]], just the [[CureYourGays behavior]], but to do it as [[TheFettered ethically as possible]]. Unless he live in a setting where there actually ''is'' an evil gay conspiracy, he's a TroubledSympatheticBigot.
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** Alternatively, Bob has religious beliefs that make him believe homosexuality to be bad but also influence him to "hate the sin but love the sinner". He believe that there is an "the gay agenda" that hurt people by corrupting them into gayness, nut but that it's best not to [[TheFundamentalist target the individuals]], just the [[CureYourGays behavior]], but to do it as [[TheFettered ethically as possible]]. Unless he live in a setting where there actually ''is'' an evil gay conspiracy, he's a TroubledSympatheticBigot.
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** Alternatively, Bob has religious beliefs that influence him to "hate the sin but love the sinner". He believe that there is an "the gay agenda" that hurt people by corrupting them into gayness, nut that it's best not to [[TheFundamentalist target the individuals]], just the [[CureYourGays behavior]], but to do it as [[TheFettered ethically as possible]]. Unless he live in a setting where there actually ''is'' an evil gay conspiracy, he's a TroubledSympatheticBigot.
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** Or Bob has religious beliefs that influence him to "hate the sin but love the sinner," making him believe that while the gay agenda is a problem, it's best not to [[TheFundamentalist target the individuals]], just the [[CureYourGays behavior]], but to do it as [[TheFettered ethically as possible]].
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** Or Bob has religious beliefs that influence him to "hate the sin but love the sinner," making him believe that while the gay agenda is a problem, it's best not to [[TheFundamentalist target the individuals]], just the [[CureYourGays behavior]], but to do it as [[TheFettered ethically as possible]].
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** Or Bob turns out to be TheFettered in his beliefs and labeled as a Crusader only because of the opposite side's [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity attitudes]] towards [[GrayAndGreyMorality those of his beliefs]] due to a case of HeWhoFightsMonsters.
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* '''Enforced''': Religious tracts.
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* '''Enforced''': Religious tracts.It's an AuthorTract about sexuality.
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] kills someone who he feels is "deviant. Or rapes her: A so-called "curative rape" based on [[RapeAsRedemption the theory that it will make her stop being a lesbian or masochist or whatever]].
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] kills someone who he feels is "deviant. Or rapes her: A so-called "curative rape" "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape curative rape]]" based on [[RapeAsRedemption the theory that it will make her stop being a lesbian or masochist or whatever]].
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] [[{{Hypocrite}} rapes]] or kills someone who he feels is "deviant."
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] [[{{Hypocrite}} rapes]] or kills someone who he feels is "deviant.""deviant. Or rapes her: A so-called "curative rape" based on [[RapeAsRedemption the theory that it will make her stop being a lesbian or masochist or whatever]].
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] rapes or kills someone who he feels is "deviant."
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] rapes [[{{Hypocrite}} rapes]] or kills someone who he feels is "deviant."
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* '''Discussed''': "Bob, what's with hating the gays?" "It's a disease, Alice. Those filthy sodomites are diseased, and I'm trying to persuade them to seek a cure for their illness."
* '''Conversed''': "OK, so this character hates gays. And bisexuals. And bondage. And [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbation]]." "Is there any sexual contact he likes?" "Well, maybe the kind within religiously-recognized heterosexual marriage for the purpose of reproduction, but only if it's in the missionary position."
* '''Conversed''': "OK, so this character hates gays. And bisexuals. And bondage. And [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbation]]." "Is there any sexual contact he likes?" "Well, maybe the kind within religiously-recognized heterosexual marriage for the purpose of reproduction, but only if it's in the missionary position."
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* '''Discussed''': "Bob, what's with hating the gays?" "It's a disease, Alice. Those filthy sodomites are diseased, and I'm trying to persuade them to seek a [[CureYourGays cure for their illness.illness]]."
* '''Conversed''': "OK, so this character hates gays. And bisexuals. Andbondage.[[BondageIsBad bondage]]. And [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbation]]." "Is there any sexual contact he likes?" "Well, maybe the kind within religiously-recognized heterosexual marriage for the purpose of reproduction, but only if it's in the missionary position."
* '''Conversed''': "OK, so this character hates gays. And bisexuals. And
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* '''Exaggerated''': The above-mentioned "deviant" activities include sex in positions other than missionary and for purposes other than reproduction, and allowing his wife [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]] to work outside the home. He not only protests a bill that would allow same-sex marriage, but leads the protest. He may also get violent with those who think differently than him.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The above-mentioned "deviant" activities include sex in positions other than missionary and for purposes other than reproduction, and allowing his wife [[YamatoNadeshiko [[HouseWife Alice]] to work outside the home. He not only protests a bill that would allow same-sex marriage, but leads the protest. He may also get violent with those who think differently than him.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Bob learns that "different" doesn't always mean "wrong," and that he doesn't have to put others down (or resort to violence) to feel good about himself or his sexuality.
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* '''Justified''': This is what Bob's religion and/or culture believes.
** Debatable as to whether that's a justification.
** Bob has deep-seated issues, such as past sexual abuse, that cause him to think this way.
** Debatable as to whether that's a justification.
** Bob has deep-seated issues, such as past sexual abuse, that cause him to think this way.
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* '''Justified''': This is what Bob's religion and/or culture believes.
** Debatable as to whether that's a justification.
**Bob has deep-seated issues, such as past sexual abuse, that cause him to think this way.
** Debatable as to whether that's a justification.
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** Debatable as to whether that's a justification.
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* '''Parodied''': It's painfully obvious Bob is in a TransparentCloset.
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* '''Parodied''': It's painfully obvious Bob is in acts less as a TransparentCloset.MoralGuardian and more like a StopHavingFunGuy...
--> '''Bob:''' No weird positions! No kinks! No items! [[SuperSmashBrothers Fox only! Final Destination!]]
--> '''Bob:''' No weird positions! No kinks! No items! [[SuperSmashBrothers Fox only! Final Destination!]]
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* '''Basic Trope''': Someone who sees sexuality in [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white terms]]
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* '''Basic Trope''': Someone who sees sexuality in [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white terms]]terms]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': The above-mentioned "deviant" activities include sex in positions other than Missionary and for purposes other than reproduction, and allowing his wife [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]] to work outside the home. He not only protests a bill that would allow same-sex marriage, but leads the protest. He may also get violent with those who think differently than him.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The above-mentioned "deviant" activities include sex in positions other than Missionary missionary and for purposes other than reproduction, and allowing his wife [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]] to work outside the home. He not only protests a bill that would allow same-sex marriage, but leads the protest. He may also get violent with those who think differently than him.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob rails on Charlie and Donald for acting like a bunch of "mincing queers" -- they later find out the speech was a StopBeingStereotypical, and Bob is a StraightGay.
** Or Bob believes that this activity is wrong, but also beleives in letting people at as they want without harassing them....
** Or Bob believes that this activity is wrong, but also beleives in letting people at as they want without harassing them....
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* '''Subverted''': Bob rails on Charlie and Donald for acting like a bunch of "mincing queers" -- they later find out the speech it was a StopBeingStereotypical, StopBeingStereotypical speech, and Bob is a StraightGay.
** Or Bob believes that this activity is wrong, but he alsobeleives believes in letting people at act as they want without harassing them....them.
** Or Bob believes that this activity is wrong, but he also
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** ...Or so he tells himself. in actuality he's a menacing bigot
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** ...Or so he tells himself. in actuality In actuality, he's a menacing bigotbigot.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob may be feeling insecure about his own sexuality, and puts others down (or hurt them) to make himself feel better. This may stem from any number of things, including (but not limited to) his culture and his religion.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob may be feeling insecure about his own sexuality, and puts others down (or hurt hurts them) to make himself feel better. This may stem from any number of things, including (but not limited to) his culture and his religion.
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* '''Enforced''': Religious tracts
* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong and tyhat he need to fight to "protect" marriage etc.
* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong and tyhat he need to fight to "protect" marriage etc.
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* '''Enforced''': Religious tracts
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* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong andtyhat that he need to fight to "protect" marriage marriage, etc.
* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong and
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] rapes or kills someone who he feels is "deviant"
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* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] rapes or kills someone who he feels is "deviant""deviant."
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* '''Discussed''': ???
"Bob, what's with hating the gays?" "It's a disease, Alice. Those filthy sodomites are diseased, and I'm trying to persuade them to seek a cure for their illness."
* '''Conversed''':???"OK, so this character hates gays. And bisexuals. And bondage. And [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbation]]." "Is there any sexual contact he likes?" "Well, maybe the kind within religiously-recognized heterosexual marriage for the purpose of reproduction, but only if it's in the missionary position."
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* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong.
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* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong.wrong and tyhat he need to fight to "protect" marriage etc.
** Alternatively, Alice give a little speech about the destructiveness of heteronormativity and discrimination, maybe accusing Bob of being a bigot while she's at it.
** Alternatively, Alice give a little speech about the destructiveness of heteronormativity and discrimination, maybe accusing Bob of being a bigot while she's at it.
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:: Or Bob believes that this activity is wrong, but also beleives in letting people at as they want without harassing them....
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** [[KnightTemplar Bob]] believes that ''failing'' to fight against/defy TheMan and his 'constrictive sexual morality' -- meaning doing anything that resembles [[HetIsEw heterosexual, reproductive sex]] -- means you are on the side ''of'' TheMan. [[PrinciplesZealot He does not believe in]] [[TakeAThirdOption taking a third option]], and might even be rather [[NoBisexuals against bisexuality]].
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* '''Subverted''': Bob doesn't believe that nontraditional sex and gender roles are ''wrong''
* '''Double Subverted''': He just prefers the [[GoodOldWays traditional ways.]]
* '''Double Subverted''': He just prefers the [[GoodOldWays traditional ways.]]
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* '''Subverted''': Bob doesn't believe that nontraditional sex rails on Charlie and gender roles are ''wrong''
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* '''DoubleSubverted''': He just prefers the [[GoodOldWays traditional ways.]]Subverted''': ...who stubbornly insists that [[ArmoredClosetGay having sex with men doesn't make him gay]].
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* '''Inverted''': Bob believes that heterosexual, reproductive sex between a married couple, and traditional gender roles are deviant and wrong.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob believes that [[HetIsEw heterosexual, reproductive sex between a married couple, couple]], and traditional gender roles are deviant and wrong.
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* '''Parodied''': ???It's painfully obvious Bob is in a TransparentCloset.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Alice, we're moving! Some f@ggot just moved in next door, and I don't want them corrupting our kids!"
* '''Averted''': Bob is very open-minded about sexuality, gender roles, etc.
* '''Averted''': Bob is very open-minded about sexuality, gender roles, etc.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Alice, we're moving! Some f@ggot just moved in next door, and I don't want them corrupting our kids!"
"Bob has some... issues about gay men. [[ArmoredClosetGay Makes you wonder, doesn't it]]?"
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* '''Defied''': See "Averted."Bob makes an active effort to be open-minded about sexuality, gender roles, etc.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The above-mentioned "deviant" activities include sex in positions other than Missionary and for purposes other than reproduction, and allowing his wife [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]] to work outside the home.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The above-mentioned "deviant" activities include sex in positions other than Missionary and for purposes other than reproduction, and allowing his wife [[YamatoNadeshiko Alice]] to work outside the home. He not only protests a bill that would allow same-sex marriage, but leads the protest. He may also get violent with those who think differently than him.
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* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob may be feeling insecure about his own sexuality, and puts others down (or hurt them) to make himself feel better. This may stem from any number of things, including (but not limited to) his culture and his religion.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob learns that "different" doesn't always mean "wrong," and that he doesn't have to put others down (or resort to violence) to feel good about himself or his sexuality.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Alice, we're moving! Some f@ggot just moved in next door, and I don't want them corrupting our kids!"
* '''Averted''': Bob is very open-minded about sexuality, gender roles, etc.
* '''Enforced''': Religious tracts
* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong.
* '''Defied''': See "Averted."
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* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob is getting into LawfulStupid territory.
* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] rapes or kills someone who he feels is "deviant"
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob may be feeling insecure about his own sexuality, and puts others down (or hurt them) to make himself feel better. This may stem from any number of things, including (but not limited to) his culture and his religion.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob learns that "different" doesn't always mean "wrong," and that he doesn't have to put others down (or resort to violence) to feel good about himself or his sexuality.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Alice, we're moving! Some f@ggot just moved in next door, and I don't want them corrupting our kids!"
* '''Averted''': Bob is very open-minded about sexuality, gender roles, etc.
* '''Enforced''': Religious tracts
* '''Invoked''': Bob learns in religion class that anything other than a married male-female couple having sex for reproductive purposes is wrong.
* '''Defied''': See "Averted."
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* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob is getting into LawfulStupid territory.
* '''Played For Drama''': [[KnightTemplar Bob]] rapes or kills someone who he feels is "deviant"