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15th May '16 3:46:59 AM Morgenthaler
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** The Soviet Smelter. On the surface it might seem to be just a simple ore refinery that players have been building in the bases since [[CommandAndConquerRedAlert RA1]]. Here they are revealed to be [[NoOSHACompliance absolute death-traps that are affronts to worker safety]]. To start with, in order to keep up productions, there is no off switch for the machines, so even when an accident happens and someone dies, they will just keep on working. Resulting in small bone fragments of dead workers sometime being stuck in the frame of tanks. Furthermore, workers have to breath in so much ore dust that they often die from black lungs and poisoning. To make matters worst, the state deliberately shift workers in and out regularly [[KickTheDog in order to deny them government compensation]].

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** The Soviet Smelter. On the surface it might seem to be just a simple ore refinery that players have been building in the bases since [[CommandAndConquerRedAlert RA1]].RA 1. Here they are revealed to be [[NoOSHACompliance absolute death-traps that are affronts to worker safety]]. To start with, in order to keep up productions, there is no off switch for the machines, so even when an accident happens and someone dies, they will just keep on working. Resulting in small bone fragments of dead workers sometime being stuck in the frame of tanks. Furthermore, workers have to breath in so much ore dust that they often die from black lungs and poisoning. To make matters worst, the state deliberately shift workers in and out regularly [[KickTheDog in order to deny them government compensation]].
30th Dec '15 9:37:49 AM StFan
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*** And as soon as the war started, in order to keep up their advantage in manpower, Stalin started dragging off entire collective farms and city blocks worth of Russian men, women, child, and elderly into the front lines, with citizens and POWs of occupied nations getting mass-conscript to replace them to keep the war machine running. Most of those that were taken by the Soviets ended up worked to death or killed in mass executions when they were suspected of sabotage or rebellion.

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*** And as soon as the war started, in order to keep up their advantage in manpower, Stalin started dragging off entire collective farms and city blocks worth of Russian men, women, child, and elderly into the front lines, with citizens and POWs [=POWs=] of occupied nations getting mass-conscript to replace them to keep the war machine running. Most of those that were taken by the Soviets ended up worked to death or killed in mass executions when they were suspected of sabotage or rebellion.
8th Dec '15 8:40:36 PM nombretomado
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* The most chilling part about Green China's technology is that it is based heavily on the [[TheFederation Federation's]] tech in {{Franchise/StarTrek}}. Remember how SFDebris [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] how Starfleet is being WillfullyWeak since they never took advantage of their technology to help deal with the MonsterOfTheWeek or to win wars? Here we are given a picture of what would have happened if [[GoodPowersBadPeople instead of using that power to create a post-scarcity utopia, someone fully exploit that technology's military application instead]].

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* The most chilling part about Green China's technology is that it is based heavily on the [[TheFederation Federation's]] tech in {{Franchise/StarTrek}}. Remember how SFDebris WebSite/SFDebris [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] how Starfleet is being WillfullyWeak since they never took advantage of their technology to help deal with the MonsterOfTheWeek or to win wars? Here we are given a picture of what would have happened if [[GoodPowersBadPeople instead of using that power to create a post-scarcity utopia, someone fully exploit that technology's military application instead]].
11th Jun '15 11:53:09 PM MichaelMikes
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* The biggest problem of the Soviet Union is that in the Paradox timeline, since the death of Lenin and until Davidova's coup, the country has been ruled by a secession of insane, murderous, megalomaniac madmen:

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* The biggest problem of the Soviet Union is that in the Paradox timeline, since the death of Lenin and until Davidova's coup, the country has been ruled by a secession succession of insane, murderous, megalomaniac madmen:



* The Imperial subjugation of the Philippines. With the Empire transforming the entire country effectively into a breadbasket agricultural colony that focus entirely on food production for the Japanese homeland. With more than 90% of the Philippine land mass owned by Imperial noble families that never even bother to set foot on the islands. Furthermore, the Imperials keep the cost low by minimizing expenditures on things such as worker salaries, housing, and maintenance of any infrastructure not part of the Imperial agricultural system, resulting in terrible standards of living for the Filipinos. It is an illusion on what will happen to the rest of the world if the Empire had won WW3.
** As Masoko Okamura, a Japanese defector to the Order of Talon puts it, if the Imperials had it their way they would have "''...[C]onquering the planet and making like it's nineteenth-century Europe only with everyone outside Japan playing the part of the African natives''."

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* The Imperial subjugation of the Philippines. With the Empire transforming the entire country effectively into a breadbasket agricultural colony that focus entirely on food production for the Japanese homeland. With more than 90% of the Philippine land mass owned by Imperial noble families that never even bother to set foot on the islands. Furthermore, the Imperials keep the cost low by minimizing expenditures on things such as worker salaries, housing, and maintenance of any infrastructure not part of the Imperial agricultural system, resulting in terrible standards of living for the Filipinos. It is an illusion on indication of what will happen would have happened to the rest of the world if the Empire had won WW3.
** As Masoko Okamura, a Japanese defector to the Order of Talon puts it, if the Imperials had it their way they would have be "''...[C]onquering the planet and making like it's nineteenth-century Europe only with everyone outside Japan playing the part of the African natives''."



* Life in pre-nuclear China regardless of which side you are on is absolutely nightmarish. If you live in an area controlled by Red China, you either live in the cities and work 14 hours a day in state factories and workshops to provide war materials for the army while being staved, or live in the countryside and get conscripted into the Red Guard in which you are expected to die in the thousands everyday just to rush enemy defense positions in human waves. While in Blue China, you are expected to serve in World War 1 style trench warfare with no end in sight.

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* Life in pre-nuclear non-irradiated China regardless of which side you are on is absolutely nightmarish. If you live in an area controlled by Red China, you either live in the cities and work 14 hours a day in state factories and workshops to provide war materials for the army while being staved, starved, or live in the countryside and get conscripted into the Red Guard in which you are expected to die in the thousands everyday just to rush enemy defense defensive positions in human waves. While in Blue China, you are expected to serve in World War 1 style 1-style trench warfare with no end in sight.
21st Feb '15 2:47:01 AM jormis29
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* The most chilling part about Green China's technology is that it is based heavily on the [[TheFederation Federation's]] tech in {{Franchise/StarTrek}}. Remember how SFDebris [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] how StarFleet is being WillfullyWeak since they never took advantage of their technology to help deal with the MonsterOfTheWeek or to win wars? Here we are given a picture of what would have happened if [[GoodPowersBadPeople instead of using that power to create a post-scarcity utopia, someone fully exploit that technology's military application instead]].

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* The most chilling part about Green China's technology is that it is based heavily on the [[TheFederation Federation's]] tech in {{Franchise/StarTrek}}. Remember how SFDebris [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] how StarFleet Starfleet is being WillfullyWeak since they never took advantage of their technology to help deal with the MonsterOfTheWeek or to win wars? Here we are given a picture of what would have happened if [[GoodPowersBadPeople instead of using that power to create a post-scarcity utopia, someone fully exploit that technology's military application instead]].
6th May '14 8:29:47 PM timotaka
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* The Peacekeepers, right on the Chemical Mortar page, outright state that it's use violates treaties banning Chemical weapons, but ''the Peacekeepers don't consider themselves affected by international laws''. That's one ''very'' small step from tear gas to something worse when you don't see international law as a hurdle.

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* The Peacekeepers, right on the Chemical Mortar page, outright state that it's its use violates treaties banning Chemical weapons, but ''the Peacekeepers don't consider themselves affected by international laws''. That's one ''very'' small step from tear gas to something worse when you don't see international law as a hurdle.
28th Feb '14 4:56:52 AM erforce
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** Teleportation: When the Nationalists first attempted to create a molecular teleporter, they decided to go straight for human testing, with Bruce Chen, a janitor, being the first person to do so. When he re-materialized, [[CruelAndUnusualDeath he was turned into a pile of bloody flesh]], [[StarTrekTheMotionPicture exposed organs, and jutting bones]], [[GalaxyQuest which quickly exploded due to gases trapped within]]. The teleporter was redesigned as the Scrambler, which specializes as a weapon that scrambles its target's molecules until it no longer resembled anything it once was, turning enemy solders into shuddering piles of flesh and fusing tanks with their pilots.

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** Teleportation: When the Nationalists first attempted to create a molecular teleporter, they decided to go straight for human testing, with Bruce Chen, a janitor, being the first person to do so. When he re-materialized, [[CruelAndUnusualDeath he was turned into a pile of bloody flesh]], [[StarTrekTheMotionPicture [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture exposed organs, and jutting bones]], [[GalaxyQuest which quickly exploded due to gases trapped within]]. The teleporter was redesigned as the Scrambler, which specializes as a weapon that scrambles its target's molecules until it no longer resembled anything it once was, turning enemy solders into shuddering piles of flesh and fusing tanks with their pilots.
10th Feb '14 11:01:15 AM chankljp
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** Replicators: Unlike in {{Franchise/StarTrek}}, replicator technology cannot solve the problem of scarcity since the Law of Conservation of Mass [[note]]To create something, you need either mass, or energy to convert into mass.[[/note]] [[RealityEnsues still applies]]. Thus, China still need access to raw materials like anyone else. Green China does this by [[YouRequireMoreVespeneGas collecting ore and asteroid mining]]. Red China on the other hand, created the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Hellmouths]]. A machine that recycles the dead bodies on the battlefield, transforming the carbon in corpses into coal, graphite, diamonds, and even an organic slurry that is used as food.

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** Replicators: Unlike in {{Franchise/StarTrek}}, replicator technology cannot solve the problem of scarcity since the Law of Conservation of Mass [[note]]To create something, you need either mass, or energy to convert into mass.[[/note]] [[RealityEnsues still applies]]. Thus, China still need access to raw materials like anyone else. Green China does this by [[YouRequireMoreVespeneGas collecting ore and asteroid mining]]. Red China on the other hand, created the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Hellmouths]]. A machine that recycles the dead bodies on the battlefield, transforming the carbon in corpses into coal, graphite, diamonds, and even an organic slurry that is used as food.food.
* Life in pre-nuclear China regardless of which side you are on is absolutely nightmarish. If you live in an area controlled by Red China, you either live in the cities and work 14 hours a day in state factories and workshops to provide war materials for the army while being staved, or live in the countryside and get conscripted into the Red Guard in which you are expected to die in the thousands everyday just to rush enemy defense positions in human waves. While in Blue China, you are expected to serve in World War 1 style trench warfare with no end in sight.
10th Feb '14 6:26:02 AM chankljp
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* The planned title for the Allied campaign sums this up perfectly: [[PrinciplesZealot Freedom at any cost, including humanity]]
28th Jan '14 11:20:05 AM GaryGibbon
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Let's face it, Paradox gets dark. An atomic civil war, wrapped in the center of an ongoing cold war-esque conflict between two massive superpowers that are both waiting to sink their teeth into the other, as smaller powers and factions nip at the heels.

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Let's face it, Paradox gets dark. An atomic civil war, wrapped in the center centre of an ongoing cold war-esque Cold War-esque conflict between two massive superpowers that are both waiting to sink their teeth into the other, as smaller powers and factions nip at the heels.



* The slow disintegration of nations under the Allies. As quoted from Paradox, "''It's like the government's only the BBC and tax man anymore''." That statement effectively includes most of Western Europe. Even the most ardent Allied supporters are starting to realize just how far they've gone in their control when they see images of Allied peacekeepers on the streets of cities in the United States, arresting citizen protestors and fighting with the Confederates. Under the Allies national borders are slowly being erased, to the point where the Allies have become a true super-state.

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* The slow disintegration of nations under the Allies. As quoted from Paradox, "''It's like the government's only the BBC and tax man anymore''.any more''." That statement effectively includes most of Western Europe. Even the most ardent Allied supporters are starting to realize just how far they've gone in their control when they see images of Allied peacekeepers on the streets of cities in the United States, arresting citizen protestors protesters and fighting with the Confederates. Under the Allies national borders are slowly being erased, to the point where the Allies have become a true super-state.



*** Cherdenko wasn't much better. Not only did he effectively erase Einstein (and with the good doctor the time line for Red Alert 2), he ensured that the people who traveled back with him would be in no position to challenge him. Gen. Krukov was killed in the Second World War, and it's implied that he was the one who assassinated Stalin. He, more than anyone else, is responsible for the madness that erupted, from the Empire of the Rising Sun to the five other powers that have started to destabilize the world.

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*** Cherdenko wasn't much better. Not only did he effectively erase Einstein (and with the good doctor the time line for Red Alert 2), he ensured that the people who traveled travelled back with him would be in no position to challenge him. Gen. Krukov was killed in the Second World War, and it's implied that he was the one who assassinated Stalin. He, more than anyone else, is responsible for the madness that erupted, from the Empire of the Rising Sun to the five other powers that have started to destabilize the world.



** The Soviet Smelter. On the surface it might seem to be just a simple ore refinery that players have been building in the bases since [[CommandAndConquerRedAlert RA1]]. Here they are reveled to be [[NoOSHACompliance absolute deathtraps that are affronts to worker safety]]. To start with, in order to keep up productions, there is no off switch for the machines, so even when an accident happens and someone dies, they will just keep on working. Resulting in small bone fragments of dead workers sometime being stuck in the frame of tanks. Furthermore, workers have to breath in so much ore dust that they often die from black lungs and poisoning. To make matters worst, the state deliberately shift workers in and out regularly [[KickTheDog in order to deny them government compensation]].
*** Continuing from the above point on Soviet leadership, under Stalin and Cherdenko, workers in Smelter were too afraid to ask for improved working conditions. After [[TokenGoodTeammate Davidova]] took over the government, they were finally able to petition her. But even then, the only change that was enacted was for more motivational posters to be displayed in smelters.

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** The Soviet Smelter. On the surface it might seem to be just a simple ore refinery that players have been building in the bases since [[CommandAndConquerRedAlert RA1]]. Here they are reveled revealed to be [[NoOSHACompliance absolute deathtraps death-traps that are affronts to worker safety]]. To start with, in order to keep up productions, there is no off switch for the machines, so even when an accident happens and someone dies, they will just keep on working. Resulting in small bone fragments of dead workers sometime being stuck in the frame of tanks. Furthermore, workers have to breath in so much ore dust that they often die from black lungs and poisoning. To make matters worst, the state deliberately shift workers in and out regularly [[KickTheDog in order to deny them government compensation]].
*** Continuing from the above point on Soviet leadership, under Stalin and Cherdenko, workers in Smelter Smelters were too afraid to ask for improved working conditions. After [[TokenGoodTeammate Davidova]] took over the government, they were finally able to petition her. her to improve conditions in the workplace. But even then, the only change that was enacted was for more motivational posters to be displayed in smelters.
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