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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Colonel Hades's expulsion from Los Angeles SWAT is an example of how a real-life police department would treat a CowboyCop. Unfortunately, the fact that it was Deunan's father who expelled him helped set the plot of the 2004 film in motion, as Hades wasn't just any CowboyCop, he was a proud BloodKnight who revelled in the violence he inflicted on others and sought to redress the damage done to his pride any way he could.

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Some corrections: Not every version of Ghost in the Shell has Imperial Americana and related background nations. The original manga and movie just refer to it as the US. Furthermore, Appleseed can't take place in the world of Ghost in the Shell as it's World Wars are a lot more recent, yet the setting is a century further into the future then GITS. Also, Bri isn't apparently North African, he is outright said to be in the databook. He's also pretty Black looking, so that's something worth mentioning since North Africans are as diverse in appearance as Latin Americans.


* TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt: Subverted, as with Ghost in the Shell (which shared a similar Timeline if not outright happening in the same universe), despite ''two'' world wars, one of which was nuclear, civilization just kept right on chugging along, without even a die back. That said, the world is still a very chaotic place, and you probably wouldn't want to live there.

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* TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt: Subverted, as with some versions of Ghost in the Shell (which shared a similar Timeline if not outright happening in the same universe), , despite ''two'' world wars, one of which was nuclear, civilization just kept right on chugging along, without even a die back. That said, the world is still a very chaotic place, and you probably wouldn't want to live there.



* RaceLift: Though it's nearly impossible to tell in the manga due to the lack of a... well, a FACE, Briareos is apparently North African originally, as seen in some artwork Shirow has done (including a very odd-looking beach-scene). In the 2004 film and ''Ex Machina'', Briareos is retconned to be a rather Japanese-looking {{Bishonen}}.

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* RaceLift: Though it's nearly impossible to tell in the manga due to the lack of a... well, a FACE, Briareos is apparently Black North African originally, as seen in some artwork Shirow has done (including a very odd-looking beach-scene). In the 2004 film and ''Ex Machina'', Briareos is retconned to be a rather Japanese-looking {{Bishonen}}.



* TheVerse: ''Franchise/GhostInTheShell'' and ''Appleseed'' both take place in the same continuity, despite being more than a hundred years apart in the setting (and Appleseed's comparable downgrade in technology since it was written first.) Appleseed established numerous geo-political settings and details used in Ghost in the Shell, such as the existence of the Human Liberation Front organization, the [[DividedStatesOfAmerica United States of America, Imperial America, & the Russo-American Alliance]], Bioroids, and animal-themed mecha and vehicles (though this is a staple of Creator/ShirowMasamune in general), among other things.
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The one-shot OVA[[note]]a co-production between Creator/StudioGainax and Creator/{{AIC}}[[/note]] was produced in 1988 and is loosely based on the first volume. The plot concerns a colleague of Deunan and Briareos, who feels that instead of Utopia, Olympus is a GildedCage designed to prevent humans from living a fulfilling life. To destroy this cage, he conspires with a professional terrorist and it's up to Deunan and Briareos to stop them.

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The one-shot OVA[[note]]a co-production between Creator/StudioGainax and Creator/{{AIC}}[[/note]] was produced in 1988 and is loosely based on a mix of both the first volume.and second volumes. The plot concerns a colleague of Deunan and Briareos, who feels that instead of Utopia, Olympus is a GildedCage designed to prevent humans from living a fulfilling life. To destroy this cage, he conspires with a professional terrorist and it's up to Deunan and Briareos to stop them.
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The OVA and first Manga volume share a similar plot of a human, that is friends with the duo, who feels trapped in Olympus under the bioroids and who is revealed to be apart of a human centered terrorist group.


The one-shot OVA[[note]]a co-production between Creator/StudioGainax and Creator/{{AIC}}[[/note]] was produced in 1988 and has little in common with the original manga except the setting and the characters. The plot concerns a colleague of Deunan and Briareos, who feels that instead of Utopia, Olympus is a GildedCage designed to prevent humans from living a fulfilling life. To destroy this cage, he conspires with a professional terrorist and it's up to Deunan and Briareos to stop them.

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The one-shot OVA[[note]]a co-production between Creator/StudioGainax and Creator/{{AIC}}[[/note]] was produced in 1988 and has little in common with is loosely based on the original manga except the setting and the characters.first volume. The plot concerns a colleague of Deunan and Briareos, who feels that instead of Utopia, Olympus is a GildedCage designed to prevent humans from living a fulfilling life. To destroy this cage, he conspires with a professional terrorist and it's up to Deunan and Briareos to stop them.

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* DueToTheDead: Manuel Aeacus is buried with full honors after being put down when he's infected with [[spoiler:a bioweapon designed by Dr. Kestner]]. Deunan, in full uniform, is one of his pallbearers.

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* DueToTheDead: DueToTheDead:
** In the OVA, after Christopher Evans is killed in the line of duty in the opening battle, his ashes are buried in the Olympus cemetery; the small funeral is attended only by Deunan, Briareos, and three others in ESWAT.
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Manuel Aeacus is buried with full honors after being put down when he's infected with [[spoiler:a bioweapon designed by Dr. Kestner]]. Deunan, in full uniform, is one of his pallbearers.
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* MechanicalInsects: The fourth volume features arachnid robots with distinct abdomens that are almost entirely made up of a [[GatlingGood minigun]] and its absurdly large ammo drum.
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* ArcWords: From ''XIII'': "Vengeance belongeth unto me."

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* CowboyCop: Colonel Hades was one during his LA SWAT days; this factored into his expulsion from the group by Deunan's father, [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope which fueled his ultimately suicidal revenge scheme against the Knutes]].

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Colonel Hades was one during his LA SWAT days; this factored into his expulsion from the group by Deunan's father, [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope which fueled his ultimately suicidal revenge scheme against the Knutes]].



* DividedStatesOfAmerica: In 1988, the Cold War came to a peaceful resolution with the formation of the Russo-American Alliance, composed of the 13 colonial states, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, California, Oregon, Hawaii, and Alaska.

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In 1988, the Cold War came to a peaceful resolution with the formation of the Russo-American Alliance, composed of the 13 colonial states, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, California, Oregon, Hawaii, and Alaska.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Tereus]] saves Deunan from being impaled by [[spoiler:Xander's]] CombatTentacles. [[spoiler:And survives]].

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[[spoiler:Tereus]] saves Deunan from being impaled by [[spoiler:Xander's]] CombatTentacles. [[spoiler:And survives]].



* MegaCorp: Poseidon in ''Ex Machina.''.
** They seem to be OneNationUnderCopyright, to boot, in ''XIII.'' They even have national boundaries and territorial waters.

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* MegaCorp: Poseidon in ''Ex Machina.''.
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* ZombieApocalypse: not exactly, but the BrainwashedAndCrazy mob in ''Ex Machina'' looked much like it, right down to the ZombieGait.

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* ZombieApocalypse: not Not exactly, but the BrainwashedAndCrazy mob in ''Ex Machina'' looked much like it, right down to the ZombieGait.
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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: In the 2004 film, we get a good look at a computer disc labelled "SEACRET".

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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: In the 2004 film, we get a good look at a computer disc labelled "SEACRET". Also, ''Appleseed XIII'' somehow managed to misspell Olympus and Deunan's last name in several episodes. "Olumpus?" "Kunte?" REALLY? And that goes ''[[CountryMatters double]]'' for the misspelling of Deunan's last name, even!
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* LadyAndKnight: Talos and Nyx are a villainous variant of this in ''Alpha'', with Talos being a Black (ironically a ManInWhite at the same time) and Nyx being a Dark Lady with EvilWearsBlack.

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* LadyAndKnight: Talos and Nyx are a villainous variant of this in ''Alpha'', with Talos being a Black (ironically a ManInWhite at the same time) Knight and Nyx being a Dark Lady with EvilWearsBlack.
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* ChaseSceneObstacleCourse: In the 2004 film, robot ninja ladies are driving a van in pursuit of Deunan and Hitomi, crashing into a watermelon stand.
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* ThreeDEffectsTwoDCartoon: ''XIII'' contains a rather strange variant of this - the characters and objects are CG, while several backgrounds are rendered through traditional means.

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* ThreeDEffectsTwoDCartoon: TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects: ''XIII'' contains a rather strange variant of this - the characters and objects are CG, while several backgrounds are rendered through traditional means.
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* ThreeDEffectsTwoDCartoon: ''XIII'' contains a rather strange variant of this - the characters and objects are CG, while several backgrounds are rendered through traditional means.



* ConspicuousCG: ''XIII'' contains a rather strange variant of this - the characters and objects are CG, while several backgrounds are rendered through traditional means.

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* BerserkButton: If there's one thing Colonel Hades hates more than [[FantasticRacism Bioroids]], it's people being preachy towards him. When Deunan pulls the HumansAreTheRealMonsters argument on him, he simply responds by telling General Uranus in annoyance that they're wasting their time, but only when Briareos flat-out says he's an UnwittingPawn in a higher power's game does he snap and break out the firearms.



* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: Deunan reminds General Uranus that as untrustworthy as he believes Bioroids to be, at least they're not killers like their own kind are.



* VillainHasAPoint: When General Uranus states his case to Deunan, she concedes that he might have a point before letting him know that at least it isn't in the Bioroids' nature to kill even their own kind.
-->'''Deunan''': Maybe you're right. Maybe they can't be trusted, but after what I've seen I know this much: ''Bioroids don't try to KILL each other!''

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* VillainHasAPoint: When General Uranus states his case to Deunan, she concedes that he might have a point before letting reminding him know that at least it isn't in the Bioroids' nature to kill even their own kind.
-->'''Deunan''': Maybe you're right. Maybe they can't be trusted, but after what I've seen I know this much: ''Bioroids ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Bioroids don't try to KILL each other!''other!]]''\\
'''Colonel Hades''': ''[annoyed at Deunan trying to use the HumansAreTheRealMonsters argument against the Regular Army]'' ...General, we're wasting our time.

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* AgeGapRomance: In addition to the relationship quirks of dating a cyborg, Briareos is a solid nine years older than Deunan.



* MayDecemberRomance: In addition to the relationship quirks of dating a cyborg, Briareos is a solid nine years older than Deunan.
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* FriendOrFoe: The IFFs of the autonomous combat drones in ''Alpha'' either don't work, or nobody remembers how to designate themselves as a friend. Either way, the drones attack everybody.

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* FriendOrFoe: The IFFs [=IFFs=] of the autonomous combat drones in ''Alpha'' either don't work, or nobody remembers how to designate themselves as a friend. Either way, the drones attack everybody.
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The one-shot OVA[[note]]a co-production between Creator/StudioGainax and {{AIC}}[[/note]] was produced in 1988 and has little in common with the original manga except the setting and the characters. The plot concerns a colleague of Deunan and Briareos, who feels that instead of Utopia, Olympus is a GildedCage designed to prevent humans from living a fulfilling life. To destroy this cage, he conspires with a professional terrorist and it's up to Deunan and Briareos to stop them.

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The one-shot OVA[[note]]a co-production between Creator/StudioGainax and {{AIC}}[[/note]] Creator/{{AIC}}[[/note]] was produced in 1988 and has little in common with the original manga except the setting and the characters. The plot concerns a colleague of Deunan and Briareos, who feels that instead of Utopia, Olympus is a GildedCage designed to prevent humans from living a fulfilling life. To destroy this cage, he conspires with a professional terrorist and it's up to Deunan and Briareos to stop them.

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: In ''Appleseed Alpha'', Iris & Olson are very much on the idealistic scale, believing they can build a better world, Deunan is somewhere in the middle, while Briareos is firmly cynical. [[spoiler: This flips a bit halfway through after they find Olson's corpse, where Deunan briefly loses hope in finding Olympus, but this leads Briareos to adopt a more idealistic viewpoint if only to keep Deunan's spirits up. The villain, Talos, is far on the cynical scale, believing that Olympus's ideals are nonsense and that humanity needs war to continue existing.]]



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: In ''Appleseed Alpha'', Iris & Olson are very much on the idealistic scale, believing they can build a better world, Deunan is somewhere in the middle, while Briareos is firmly cynical. [[spoiler: This flips a bit halfway through after they find Olson's corpse, where Deunan briefly loses hope in finding Olympus, but this leads Briareos to adopt a more idealistic viewpoint if only to keep Deunan's spirits up. The villain, Talos, is far on the cynical scale, believing that Olympus's ideals are nonsense and that humanity needs war to continue existing.]]

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* {{Portmantitle}}: Also a OneWordTitle.



* {{Portmantitle}}: Also a OneWordTitle.

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* OhCrap: When the first police team busts through the to arrest the terrorists, just to walk in front of a gatling gun ambush.


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* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:General Uranus's plan to destroy the Bioroids involves blowing up the D-Tank, which actually contains a virus the Elders had forced Dr. Gilliam to synthesize that would sterilize all of humanity and slowly euthanize the human race. He doesn't realize that he was unwittingly helping along the death of humanity until it's almost too late.]]



* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:General Uranus's plan to destroy the Bioroids involves blowing up the D-Tank, which actually contains a virus the Elders had forced Dr. Gilliam to synthesize that would sterilize all of humanity and slowly euthanize the human race. He doesn't realize that he was unwittingly helping along the death of humanity until it's almost too late.]]

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* ButterflyOfDeathAndRebirth: ''XIII'' has an episode focused on a hotel with a garden in the middle that has butterflies that the daughter of the VIP likes to chase. [[spoiler:Her chase ultimately leads to the death of her father as he tries to save her from running off a bridge without rails.]]


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* ButterflyOfDeathAndRebirth: ''XIII'' has an episode focused on a hotel with a garden in the middle that has butterflies that the daughter of the VIP likes to chase. [[spoiler:Her chase ultimately leads to the death of her father as he tries to save her from running off a bridge without rails.]]

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* ArmCannon: Nyx in ''Alpha'' has a machine gun built into the palm of her right hand.
* ArmorIsUseless: In this universe, cyborgs are surprisingly fragile, with pistol rounds being able to take down even largely metallic ones pretty easily ([[spoiler:Talos is almost completely metal, yet Deunan's M1911 does severe damage to him with just a few shots]]). You'd think becoming a cyborg would make you tougher.
* AssholeVictim: Some of the "vampire" victims in ''XIII'' Episode 5 are war criminals from Eris (said to have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing).
* AssimilationPlot: [[spoiler: Kestner in ''Ex Machina'' wants to pull this off.]]


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* AssholeVictim: Some of the "vampire" victims in ''XIII'' Episode 5 are war criminals from Eris (said to have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing).
* AssimilationPlot: [[spoiler: Kestner in ''Ex Machina'' wants to pull this off.]]

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* AMechByAnyOtherName: MiniMecha are known as "Landmates", while PoweredArmor are called "Protectors".


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* DiplomaticImpunity: In ''XIII'', [[spoiler:Deia]] is caught red handed committing an act of terrorism, has to flee Olympus, and then one episode later, shows up again as an accredited diplomat of Poseidon, and goes on to commit several more acts of terrorism while back in Olympus.

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* MayContainEvil: [[spoiler: The Connexus]] in ''Ex Machina''.

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* MayContainEvil: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Connexus]] in ''Ex Machina''.



* ObviouslyEvil: Poseidon in ''Ex Machina''. They're a MegaCorp and OneNationUnderCopyright, their executive and diplomat is an EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette in a [[SpyCatsuit black leather catsuit]] with [[CreepyMonotone a soft, smooth voice]], and their battle commander has a [[GoodScarsEvilScars rather ugly scar]] covering one eye. They're also so polite and smooth about cooperating with Athena and Olympus that any smart viewer would expect that they're up to something ''seriously'' devious. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Nope.]] While they did accidentally leave some dangerous experimental AppliedPhlebotinum lying around, they cooperate fully with the protagonists when it comes time to clean everything up, and their offer to surrender control of their weapons to Olympus is entirely genuine.]]

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* ObviouslyEvil: Poseidon in ''Ex Machina''. They're a MegaCorp and OneNationUnderCopyright, their executive and diplomat is an EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette in a [[SpyCatsuit black leather catsuit]] with [[CreepyMonotone a soft, smooth voice]], and their battle commander has a [[GoodScarsEvilScars rather ugly scar]] covering one eye. They're also so polite and smooth about cooperating with Athena and Olympus that any smart viewer would expect that they're up to something ''seriously'' devious. [[spoiler: [[SubvertedTrope Nope.]] Nope]]. While they did accidentally leave some dangerous experimental AppliedPhlebotinum lying around, they cooperate fully with the protagonists when it comes time to clean everything up, and their offer to surrender control of their weapons to Olympus is entirely genuine.]]



* OneWordTitle: Also a {{Portmantitle}}.



* ThePasswordIsAlwaysSwordfish: [[spoiler:Hitomi.]]
* PhlebotinumInducedStupidity: In ''Ex Machina'', Briareos would likely have found unearthing the movie's central conspiracy much easier if the lingering nanite poisoning they used to temporarily take him over hadn't compelled him to take the most stupid, pointless, and needlessly violent actions possible whenever his adrenaline levels spiked. [[spoiler:Luckily for him, there's a treatment.]]

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* ThePasswordIsAlwaysSwordfish: [[spoiler:Hitomi.]]
[[spoiler:Hitomi]].
* PhlebotinumInducedStupidity: In ''Ex Machina'', Briareos would likely have found unearthing the movie's central conspiracy much easier if the lingering nanite poisoning they used to temporarily take him over hadn't compelled him to take the most stupid, pointless, and needlessly violent actions possible whenever his adrenaline levels spiked. [[spoiler:Luckily for him, there's a treatment.]]treatment]].



* PunchClockVillain/: In "Alpha", while it is mentioned by multiple characters that the numerous nameless cyborg thugs working for Two Horns are criminals and gang members, none of them act that unpleasant nor are shown doing anything evil throughout the course of the film. The worst any of them do is attack the better armed and more dangerous Deunan and Briareos when directly ordered to do so, and when ordered to return to the tank rather than continue attacking go so far as to look at each other, shrug, and calmly leave. The red one that acts as second in command to Two Horns in particular is portrayed as surprisingly mellow, level headed, and non-confrontational. Minor hints scattered throughout the film imply that these men used to be soldiers during the War, and after the war was over they simply continued to do the same things they used to just under new managment.

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In "Alpha", while it is mentioned by multiple characters that the numerous nameless cyborg thugs working for Two Horns are criminals and gang members, none of them act that unpleasant nor are shown doing anything evil throughout the course of the film. The worst any of them do is attack the better armed and more dangerous Deunan and Briareos when directly ordered to do so, and when ordered to return to the tank rather than continue attacking go so far as to look at each other, shrug, and calmly leave. The red one that acts as second in command to Two Horns in particular is portrayed as surprisingly mellow, level headed, and non-confrontational. Minor hints scattered throughout the film imply that these men used to be soldiers during the War, and after the war was over they simply continued to do the same things they used to just under new managment.
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It also has a CGI anime series named ''Appleseed XIII.'' The series was produced in 2011 by Jinni's Animation Studios in association with Creator/ProductionIG and under the direction of Takayuki Hamana with Junichi Fujisaku as script supervisor. All 13 episodes of ''Appleseed XIII'' can be seen on Funimation's official Website/YouTube channel [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwazKLaN7rLi2U2hzVjSfcBZVLN_hSV3P here.]] An English dub of the series was released on DVD and Blu-Ray in June 2013.

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It also has a CGI anime series named ''Appleseed XIII.'' The series was produced in 2011 by [[Creator/TMSEntertainment Jinni's Animation Studios Studios]] in association with Creator/ProductionIG and under the direction of Takayuki Hamana with Junichi Fujisaku as script supervisor. All 13 episodes of ''Appleseed XIII'' can be seen on Funimation's official Website/YouTube channel [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwazKLaN7rLi2U2hzVjSfcBZVLN_hSV3P here.]] An English dub of the series was released on DVD and Blu-Ray in June 2013.
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* ConcealmentEqualsCover: Very, very averted. As is common for Shirow Masamune works, big guns will chew up the scenery. Of particular not is the huge Gatling guns used by the tanks in the intro of the first movie: they're shown punching straight through thick concrete and brick walls like they were made of stale crackers.

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* ConcealmentEqualsCover: Very, very averted. As is common for Shirow Masamune works, big guns will chew up the scenery. Of particular not note is the huge Gatling guns used by the tanks in the intro of the first movie: they're shown punching straight through thick concrete and brick walls like they were made of stale crackers.
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* ArmorIsUseless: In this universe, cyborgs are surprisingly fragile, with pistol rounds being able to take down even largely metallic ones pretty easily ([[spoiler: Talos is almost completely metal, yet Deunan's M1911 does severe damage to him with just a few shots]]). You'd think becoming a cyborg would make you tougher.

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* ArmorIsUseless: In this universe, cyborgs are surprisingly fragile, with pistol rounds being able to take down even largely metallic ones pretty easily ([[spoiler: Talos ([[spoiler:Talos is almost completely metal, yet Deunan's M1911 does severe damage to him with just a few shots]]). You'd think becoming a cyborg would make you tougher.
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* BloodstainedGlassWindows The opening sequence of ''Ex Machina'', in fine JohnWoo tradition.

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* BloodstainedGlassWindows The opening sequence of ''Ex Machina'', in fine JohnWoo Creator/JohnWoo tradition.

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