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* DCComics in general, during the SilverAge of comics, was infamous for using the following writing system: an editor would design a cover with whatever elements he felt would be popular (gorillas, dinosaurs, aliens etc.) or shocking events ([[SuperDickery death scenes of major characters, betrayals etc, pranks]] etc.) then he would give the cover to a writer and tell him to ''just come up with a story that made sense out of it.'' The results were often [[TropesAreNotBad not very logical, but still enjoyable in their own way]].

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* DCComics in general, during the SilverAge of comics, was infamous for using the following writing system: an editor would design a cover with whatever elements he felt would be popular (gorillas, dinosaurs, aliens etc.) or shocking events ([[SuperDickery death scenes of major characters, betrayals etc, betrayals, pranks]] etc.) then he would give the cover to a writer and tell him to ''just come up with a story that made sense out of it.'' The results were often [[TropesAreNotBad not very logical, but still enjoyable in their own way]].
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* Compare [[MarvelComics "The Marvel Method"]] from the same era: One writer would plot a story, an artist would draw the comic, then another writer would come up with the dialogue, often having to come up with explanations by himself. Fortunately Marvel's staff was usually more serious about their work than DC's and the results were usually better. Marvel used this system as late as the 80's.

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* Compare [[MarvelComics "The Marvel Method"]] from the same era: One writer would plot a story, an artist would draw the comic, then another writer would come up with do the dialogue, often having to come up with explanations explain things all by himself. Fortunately Marvel's staff was usually more serious about their work than DC's and the results were usually better. Marvel used this system as late as the 80's.

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* DCComics in general, during the SilverAge of comics, was infamous for using the following writing system: an editor would design a cover with whatever elements he felt would be popular (gorillas, dinosaurs, aliens etc.) or shocking events ([[SuperDickery death scenes of major characters, betrayals etc, pranks]] etc.) then he would give the cover to a writer and tell him to ''just come up with a story that made sense out of it.'' The results were often [[TropesAreNotBad not very logical, but still enjoyable in their own way]].
* Compare [[MarvelComics "The Marvel Method"]] from the same era: One writer would plot a story, an artist would draw the comic, then another writer would come up with the dialogue, often having to come up with explanations by himself. Fortunately Marvel's staff was usually more serious about their work than DC's and the results were usually better. Marvel used this system as late as the 80's.
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* Many committee-led series will change plot and emphasise characters depending on audience responses to broadcast episodes. Sylar and Hiro in Heroes received such a favourable response they were given much larger roles in the long run [[spoiler: including Sylar being allowed to live beyond the Season 1 finale.]]
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* Aaron Sorkin does this. There's a story that when he was writing TheWestWing, he needed President Bartlet to be lying in bed for a scene -- and so gave the character ''multiple sclerosis.''
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* Parodied in a ''KidsInTheHall'' sketch, which warns the viewer that it was "written in haste," showing the writer frantically mashing a keyboard trying to finish it within the deadline. The scene is filled with nonsensical actions and garbled dialogue caused by the typos, such as a man taking off his "rubber boobs" and sitting down on a "chain."
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* StanislawLem wrote {{Solaris}} that way. It is considered to be his best book which is saying something, because his other works are nothing short of brilliance.
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* Tim Burton's Batman was constantly be expanded, edited and rewritten. Burton himself once recounted a situation wherein he had the Joker take Vicki Vale hostage and move into the Church, with no idea what to do storywise after that point.
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*OneWord: [[{{Bleach}} Plotkai]]. Okay, ''in extenso'', Tite Kubo, the author, is infamous for using this trope ''and'' for his special use of ChandlersLaw: "When in doubt, introduce a new awesome character". [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters He was in doubt very often...]]

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* Prolific comic book writer Robert Kanigher did this all the time. The results run the full gamut from enduring classics to ludicrous dross (but it was ludicrous dross that was handed in on time, and that was the important thing).



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** Although I'm unsure of how true it is, I heard off a friend that the dialogue in the spaceport in the same episode between Ford and Zaphod ("They're like... huge... broken eggshells...") Is so slow, ponderous and wandering because Douglas Adams was slipping them bits of paper with the next line on it as they were recording.

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** Although I'm unsure of how true it is, I heard off a friend that the dialogue in the spaceport in the same episode between Ford and Zaphod ("They're like... huge... broken eggshells...") Is is so slow, ponderous and wandering because Douglas Adams was slipping them bits of paper with the next line on it as they were recording.
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** Although I'm unsure of how true it is, I heard off a friend that the dialogue in the spaceport in the same episode between Ford and Zaphod("They're like... huge... broken eggshells...") Is so slow, ponderous and wandering because Douglas Adams was slipping them bits of paper with the next line on it as they were recording.

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** Although I'm unsure of how true it is, I heard off a friend that the dialogue in the spaceport in the same episode between Ford and Zaphod("They're Zaphod ("They're like... huge... broken eggshells...") Is so slow, ponderous and wandering because Douglas Adams was slipping them bits of paper with the next line on it as they were recording.



* ''MSPaintAdventures'', especially in the earlier adventures. The latest adventures, ''{{Homestuck}}'', is the only one to have any sort of planning before being written, having started with the four central haracters, their [[WeaponOfChoice weapons of choice]], some [[InventoryManagementPuzzle general]] [[ItemCrafting game]] [[RealityWarper mechanics]], and a handful of plot points, including an ending, worked out beforehand. Everything else was more or lessimprovised.

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* ''MSPaintAdventures'', especially in the earlier adventures. The latest adventures, ''{{Homestuck}}'', is the only one to have any sort of planning before being written, having started with the four central haracters, their [[WeaponOfChoice weapons of choice]], some [[InventoryManagementPuzzle general]] [[ItemCrafting game]] [[RealityWarper mechanics]], and a handful of plot points, including an ending, worked out beforehand. Everything else was more or lessimprovised.
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* SouthPark's script is written the week before it airs.

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* SouthPark's script ''SouthPark'' is written the week before it airs.
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* SouthPark's script is written the week before it airs.
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* HarukiMurakami swears to this type of writing, never knowing the ending when he begins a story. [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs It shows]]
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** Bear in mind, though, that ''The Fireman'' was already 25.000 words, half the length of the final novel
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->''No plot? No problem!''
--> Motto of NaNoWriMo
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* This is how DouglasAdams wrote the original radio scripts for ''[[Radio/{{ptitlegvx5tm34k7kq}} The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]]''. Apparently, he'd often still be rewriting the ends of episodes as the cast were recording the beginning. According to a making-of feature, the actor who was supposed to play the Ruler of the Universe (who appears in the final minutes of the last episode of season two) actually ''went home'' because it took Adams so long to finish the script. The role was cast by handing the pages to the one actor still in the studio who didn't have another part in that scene.

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* This is how DouglasAdams wrote the original radio scripts for ''[[Radio/{{ptitlegvx5tm34k7kq}} The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]]''. Apparently, he'd often still be rewriting the ends of episodes as the cast were recording the beginning. According to a making-of feature, the actor who was supposed to play the Ruler of the Universe (who appears in the final minutes of the last episode of season two) actually ''went home'' because it took Adams so long to finish the script. The role was cast by handing the pages to the one actor still in the studio who didn't have another part in that scene.
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** Although I'm unsure of how true it is, I heard off a friend that the dialogue in the spaceport in the same episode between Ford and Zaphod("They're like... huge... broken eggshells...") Is so slow, ponderous and wandering because Douglas Adams was slipping them bits of paper with the next line on it as they were recording.
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* The vast majority of [[SoapOpera soaps]], work on this principle. It's essentially the nature of doing a work "live." RealLifeWritesThePlot sometimes contributes to this trope, especially for things like pregnancies.

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* The vast majority of [[SoapOpera soaps]], soaps]] work on this principle. It's essentially the nature of doing a work "live." RealLifeWritesThePlot sometimes contributes to this trope, especially for things like pregnancies.
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* An excellent summation of this trope: "It's like driving a car at night. You never see further than your headlights, but you can make the whole journey that way. " --E.L. Doctorow, on writing (also quoted by Anne La Mott).

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* An excellent summation of this trope: trope from [[ELDoctorow E.L. Doctorow]]: "It's like driving a car at night. You never see further than your headlights, but you can make the whole journey that way. " --E.L. Doctorow, on writing (also quoted by Anne La Mott).AnneLamott).
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* Cory Doctorow wrote ''Little Brother'' in eight days.

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* Cory Doctorow wrote ''Little Brother'' ''LittleBrother'' in eight days.
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* The second and third ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movies were both being written as they were filmed.

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* The second and third ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movies were both being written as they were filmed.
filmed. They are an excellent example of why this trope is not always a good idea; they were often still writing minutes before shooting started.
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* TerryPratchett usually writes with a plan, but in an interview said that while writing the assassin's "driving test" in ''{{Discworld/Pyramids}}'', he had absolutely no idea how it would unfold, and consequently it is one of his most favorite moments in the ''{{Discworld}}'' series.
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* LRonHubbard claims he wrote by meditating into a trance-like state and typing constantly for hours at a time.

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* LRonHubbard claims he wrote by meditating into a trance-like state and typing constantly for hours at a time. According to HarlanEllison, Hubbard used the Jack Kerouac method -- he rigged a roll of butcher paper of the appropriate width to feed into his typewriter, wrote for several hours, and at the end cut the long sheet down into even pages.



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* In [[Film/IronMan Iron Man]], the actors came up with so many good things on-set that halfway through they just threw away the script (having previously rewritten it every night) and instead wrote outlines of each scene instead. Jeff Bridges said that it felt weird doing it this way, then realised that just he had to treat it "like a 200 million dollar student film".

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* In [[Film/IronMan ''[[Film/IronMan Iron Man]], Man]]'', the actors came up with so many good things on-set that halfway through they just threw away the script (having previously rewritten it every night) and instead wrote outlines of each scene instead. Jeff Bridges said that it felt weird doing it this way, then realised that just he had to treat it "like a 200 million dollar student film".



* This is essentially how {{NaNoWriMo}} works. Participants are given 30 days to see if they can write at least 50,000 words. At a rate of 1,667 words per day, writing the first thing that pops into one's head is pretty much the only way a participant can "win".
** [[AllThereInTheManual If you choose to do it that way.]] The rules allow writers to have character sketches, plot summaries, and even extensive, detailed outlines - as long as none of the actual prose is written before 12:00 AM on November 1.

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* This is essentially how The {{NaNoWriMo}} works.project lends it self to this approach. Participants are given 30 days to see if they can write at least 50,000 words. At a rate of 1,667 words per day, writing [[hottip:*:Not all [=NaNoWriMo=] writer write by the first thing that pops into one's head is pretty much the only way a participant can "win".
** [[AllThereInTheManual If you choose to do it that way.]]
seat of their pants. The rules allow writers to have character sketches, plot summaries, and even extensive, detailed outlines - -- as long as none of the actual prose is written before 12:00 AM on November 1.]]



* HoraceKelton once replied to a friend that he didn't know "what [his] next book would be about. [[IJustWriteTheThing The characters [hadn't] told [him]]]." But he still planned some once he got the basic idea.

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* HoraceKelton Horace Kelton once replied to a friend that he didn't know "what [his] next book would be about. [[IJustWriteTheThing The characters [hadn't] told [him]]]." But he still planned some once he got the basic idea.



** [[ItRunsOnNonsensoleum That explains a lot...]]
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* DouglasAdams wrote ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy~=]'' this way largely - throw out tons of ideas, then return later when it seems like one of them is funny or could be made relevant (like the potted plant saying "Oh no, not again"). As you can imagine, Adams was terrible at deadlines and finished the first book at that page because his publisher was furious.

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* DouglasAdams wrote ''[=~The ''[[Literature/{{ptitlegvx5tm34k7kq}} The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy~=]'' Galaxy]]'' this way largely - throw out tons of ideas, then return later when it seems like one of them is funny or could be made relevant (like the potted plant saying "Oh no, not again"). As you can imagine, Adams was terrible at deadlines and finished the first book at that page because his publisher was furious.



* This is how DouglasAdams wrote the original radio scripts for ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy~=]''. Apparently, he'd often still be rewriting the ends of episodes as the cast were recording the beginning. According to a making-of feature, the actor who was supposed to play the Ruler of the Universe (who appears in the final minutes of the last episode of season two) actually ''went home'' because it took Adams so long to finish the script. The role was cast by handing the pages to the one actor still in the studio who didn't have another part in that scene.

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* This is how DouglasAdams wrote the original radio scripts for ''[=~The ''[[Radio/{{ptitlegvx5tm34k7kq}} The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy~=]''.Galaxy]]''. Apparently, he'd often still be rewriting the ends of episodes as the cast were recording the beginning. According to a making-of feature, the actor who was supposed to play the Ruler of the Universe (who appears in the final minutes of the last episode of season two) actually ''went home'' because it took Adams so long to finish the script. The role was cast by handing the pages to the one actor still in the studio who didn't have another part in that scene.
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Natter. And besides, being a good actor doesn't always mean good improv like in Iron Man.


** The presence of some ''very'' good actors didn't hurt at all. There's a reason this is seen as Robert Downey Jr's CrowningMomentOfAwesome.
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* The Reverend Lionel Fanthorpe [[ExtrudedBookProduct churned out novels for Badger Books]] on the basis of a book cover, a title and a very short deadline. Badger's polices mean it's impossible to tell exactly how many he wrote, but the estimate works out at one 158 page book every twelve days. To manage this, he dictated into a reel to reel tape recorder, then shipped the tapes off to a pool of typists for transcription. To hit the word target, he would [[{{Padding}} pad out]] the books with philosophical discussions, mundane detail and [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment redundant descriptions]] (robots: "Metal things. Metal things that could think. Thinking metal things"), but then could be told that he had only three pages left to wrap up the story, so he had to [[AssPull pull out]] a DeusExMachina. Despite, or perhaps because of all this, Fanthorpe's work has picked up a SoBadItsGood following.

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* The Reverend Lionel Fanthorpe [[ExtrudedBookProduct churned out novels for Badger Books]] on the basis of a book cover, a title and a very short deadline. Badger's polices policies mean it's impossible to tell exactly how many he wrote, but the estimate works out at one 158 page book every twelve days. To manage this, he dictated into a reel to reel tape recorder, then shipped the tapes off to a pool of typists for transcription. To hit the word target, he would [[{{Padding}} pad out]] the books with philosophical discussions, mundane detail and [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment redundant descriptions]] (robots: "Metal things. Metal things that could think. Thinking metal things"), but then could be told that he had only three pages left to wrap up the story, so he had to [[AssPull pull out]] a DeusExMachina. Despite, or perhaps because of all this, Fanthorpe's work has picked up a SoBadItsGood following.

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* Ray Bradbury wrote ''Fahrenheit 451'' at a pay typewriter in 9 days.
** To be fair, it was based on his previous short story ''The Fireman''.

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* Ray Bradbury wrote fleshed out his short story ''The Fireman'' into the novel ''Fahrenheit 451'' at a pay typewriter in 9 days.
** To be fair, it was based on his previous short story ''The Fireman''.
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* CharlesDeLint writes that way and refers to it an "organic" style of writing.

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