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*** Light? Evil? "I have no idea what you're talking about."

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* Gluttony in ''FullmetalAlchemist'' just doesn't seem to understand that there's anything mean about [[ImAHumanitarian eating people]].

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* Many Nazis were just regular people who wanted to support their country and show patriotism. Many didn't even know that their government was... you know, murdering millions of innocent people.

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* Many Nazis were just regular people who wanted to support their country and show patriotism. Many didn't even know that their government was... you know, murdering millions of innocent people. people.
** Even many that were out for blood weren't exactly evil; they merely felt that the Allies had crossed the MoralEventHorizon during the last war(Britain had a blockade credited with killing nearly a million German civilians, which was kept in place for far longer than necessary) and with the Treaty of Versailles(which ''was'' designed to specifically cripple Germany, with some feeling WWII was inevitable ''because it didn't go far enough'', a sentiment that culminated in a plan to deindustrialize Germany).
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* The Claw from GunXSword is a really unsettling example. Despite the fact he has a history of killing people, he comes across as a really nice old guy, and even after you actually watch him kill someone onscreen, it's still hard to see the man as a villain. Even his ultimate plan is arguably noble in intent, but it isn't until his VillanousBreakdown towards the very end do you even get the feeling he might actually be a CompleteMonster, and even then it's so brief it's still hard to believe.
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Even for Discworld, having an evil description is a bit weird.


* Vimes's description of Carcer from the ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''[[{{Discworld/NightWatch}} Night Watch]]'' is described as behaving this way.

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* Vimes's description of Carcer from the ''{{Discworld}}'' *In the''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''[[{{Discworld/NightWatch}} Night Watch]]'' is described as behaving Watch]]'', Vimes describes Carcer this way.way:
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*** Light? Evil? "I have no idea what you're talking about."
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* Humans in ''WatershipDown''; keeping pests out of your garden and plowing up the ground for a new subdivision become the acts of evil gods.

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* Brian de Bois-Guilbert of ''{{Ivanhoe}}'' just can't seem to wrap his head around the fact that "[[ScarpiaUltimatum Marry me, and I'll save your life; refuse, and I'll let you die]]" is something ''villains'', not ''heroes'', do.
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** [[spoiler: Most likely so, since putting the heroes at ease made it far easier for him to convince them to leave him alone while they went into the other dimension, giving him free reign to conquer the world unopposed. Which he did.]]
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* Sid from ''ToyStory'' tortures toys. He doesn't find out until the end that they are actually alive.
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* ''{{Persona 4}}'': [[spoiler:Taro Namatame represents what the protagonist might have become had he given up for the easy answers in the game, and jumps to stupefying conclusions about the Midnight Channel and the TV World that lead him to kidnapping people and abandoning them in a [[DarkWorld sinister parallel world]] for their own alleged safety. Not all too unsympathetics, as he is a XanatosSucker who eventually repents when rubbed in the face with the overwhelming evidence of his wrongdoings. A tragically terminated relationship followed with heavy substance abuse might help explain his lapses in judgement, as well.]]

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* ''{{Persona 4}}'': [[spoiler:Taro Namatame represents what the protagonist might have become had he given up for the easy answers in the game, and jumps to stupefying conclusions about the Midnight Channel and the TV World that lead him to kidnapping people and abandoning them in a [[DarkWorld sinister parallel world]] for their own alleged safety. Not all too unsympathetics, as he is a XanatosSucker an UnwittingPawn who eventually repents when rubbed in the face with the overwhelming evidence of his wrongdoings. A tragically terminated relationship followed with heavy substance abuse might help explain his lapses in judgement, as well.]]
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* The assassin Jonathan Teatime from the ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''[[{{Discworld/Hogfather}} Hogfather]]'' does not seem to entirely understand that his actions (and he himself) are evil. As Susan Sto-Helit says when confronting him, "You were the little boy who didn't know the difference between throwing a stone at a cat and setting a cat on fire." Teatime is only an apprentice assassin. Not because he can't perform well, but because he is known within the Assasssin's Guild for ''lack of elegance'' on his assignments, which in his case means not only killing the target but nailing the target's head to the wall and killing his family, servants, and household pets on the way out for fun. On the other hand, he expresses a desire for friends, and seems to very sincerely wish to please his Guildmaster. As it is implied that he killed his own parents as a small child, Teatime may simply have been born without empathy and never developed the moral sense to understand what was wrong with his actions. In fact, he sometimes seems confused about why he is not liked by his companions.

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* The assassin Jonathan Teatime from the ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''[[{{Discworld/Hogfather}} Hogfather]]'' does not seem to entirely understand that his actions (and he himself) are evil. As Susan Sto-Helit says when confronting him, "You were the little boy who didn't know the difference between throwing a stone at a cat and setting a cat on fire." Teatime is only an apprentice assassin. Not because he can't perform well, but because he is known within the Assasssin's Guild for ''lack of elegance'' on his assignments, which in his case means not only killing the target but nailing the target's head to the wall and killing his family, servants, and household pets on the way out for fun. On the other hand, he expresses a desire for friends, and seems to very sincerely wish to please his Guildmaster. As it is implied that he killed his own parents as a small child, Teatime may simply have been born without empathy and never developed the moral sense to understand what was wrong with his actions. In fact, he sometimes seems confused about why he is not liked by his companions.
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*** Maybe they do. If they're so smart and kind to some, then why shouldn't they have the ability to be smart and cruel to others?

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*** Maybe they do. If they're so smart and kind enough to some, be kind, then why shouldn't they have the ability to be smart and cruel enough to others?be cruel?
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** Well, [[spoiler:Ender]] too. After all, [[spoiler:He didn't know all those simulations were real.]]


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*** Maybe they do. If they're so smart and kind to some, then why shouldn't they have the ability to be smart and cruel to others?
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* This is one of the most chilling aspects of ''TheSarahConnorChronicles''. [[RobotGirl Cameron]] has a tendency to execute people or leave them to die when she has no further use for them, because her internal logic prioritizes her mission to protect John Connor above all else. In a few instances she outright executes people whose only crime was to potentially endanger John's life; for example, she kills a trio of burglars who robbed the Connors' house because they had accessed their identification and financial information, but that information would allow someone else to track them down.
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* In ''{{Warhammer40000}}'' some followers/[[TheHeartless demons]] of Nurgle are [[AffablyEvil very happy]] and just want to [[AndCallHimGeorge hug others]] and make them a part of the family of grandfather Nurgle, they don't get why being [[BodyHorror rotting zombies with gaping weeping sores]](among other things) isn't desirable to others. Nurgle is, quite literally, likened to a jovial grandfather. He's easily the nicest of the Chaos gods.

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* In ''{{Warhammer40000}}'' ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' some followers/[[TheHeartless demons]] of Nurgle are [[AffablyEvil very happy]] and just want to [[AndCallHimGeorge hug others]] and make them a part of the family of grandfather Nurgle, they don't get why being [[BodyHorror rotting zombies with gaping weeping sores]](among other things) isn't desirable to others. Nurgle is, quite literally, likened to a jovial grandfather. He's easily the nicest of the Chaos gods.
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** In the original comics, the Addamses seemed to have a vague idea that other people weren't like them, but didn't fully understand it -- such as Morticia giving a babysitter/nanny the "friendly advice" that she should keep her back to the wall at all times while working.
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The original statement is true in regards to the original book as a stand-alone work, which is what it was referring to. Also, if it's wrong, correct it, don't explain why it's wrong.


** Not quite. They understood that humans were intelligent, but assumed [[spoiler:they were also hive-minds like the Buggers were. And so vivisecting individual humans in an attempt to communicate was just the equivalent of a friendly "hello".]]
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* The Michael Swanwick story ''The Promise Of God'' takes place in a setting where using magic erodes away a person's moral sense, so every magic user has to have a chaperone to constantly ride herd on them and stop them from, say, solving people's problems by simply killing them.
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** Or her [[cross: love]] lust for [[LoveMakesYouCrazy Light distracted her.]]

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** Or her [[cross: [[strike: love]] lust for [[LoveMakesYouCrazy Light distracted her.]]
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** Or her [[cross: love]] lust for [[LoveMakesYouCrazy Light distracted her.]]
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* While Sid of ''ToyStory'' is a mean little brat, he does not understand that [[FantasticAesop the toys he loves to mutilate and destroy are alive]]. As far as he can tell, he's just playing games.

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* While Sid of ''ToyStory'' is a mean little brat, he does not understand that [[FantasticAesop the toys he loves to mutilate and destroy are alive]]. As far as he can tell, he's just playing games.
games. Or, to take it further, blowing off steam on "inanimate" effigies instead of actual living things.
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* MarkTwain [[http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/07/exclusive-unpublished-mark-twain-essay-concerning-the-interview.html has]] an extended analogy wherein he describes ''interviewers'' this way:

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* MarkTwain [[http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/07/exclusive-unpublished-mark-twain-essay-concerning-the-interview.html has]] an extended analogy wherein he describes ''interviewers'' ''[[SeriousBusiness interviewers]]'' this way:

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* MarkTwain [[http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/07/exclusive-unpublished-mark-twain-essay-concerning-the-interview.html has]] an extended analogy wherein he describes ''interviewers'' this way:
-->The interviewer scatters you all over creation, but he does not conceive that you can look upon that as a disadvantage. People who blame a cyclone, do it because they do not reflect that compact masses are not a cyclone's idea of symmetry. People who find fault with the interviewer, do it because they do not reflect that he is but a cyclone, after all, though disguised in the image of God, like the rest of us; that he is not conscious of harm even when he is dusting a continent with your remains, but only thinks he is making things pleasant for you; and that therefore the just way to judge him is by his intentions, not his works.
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* Proof that it doesn't have to be creepy: this is the modus operandi of ''TheAddamsFamily'', who are genuinely nice people--who just happen to not quite realize that no one else shares their quasi-immortality, or finds torture, explosions, and other such morbid pasttimes amusing.

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* Proof that it doesn't have to be creepy: this is sort of the modus operandi of ''TheAddamsFamily'', who are genuinely nice people--who just happen to not quite realize that no one else shares their quasi-immortality, or finds torture, explosions, and other such morbid pasttimes amusing.amusing. Of course, no one ever bothers to even mention the fact that they are rather more fragile than the Addamses.
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* The assassin Jonathan Teatime from the ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''[[{{Discworld/Hogfather}} Hogfather]]'' does not seem to entirely understand that his actions (and he himself) are evil. As Susan Sto-Helit says when confronting him, "You were the little boy who didn't know the difference between throwing a stone at a cat and setting a cat on fire." Teatime is known within the Assasssin's Guild for overkill on his assignments, which in his case means killing not only the target but the target's family, servants, and househould pets. On the other hand, he expresses a desire for friends, and seems to very sincerely wish to please his Guildmaster. As it is implied that he killed his own parents as a small child, Teatime may simply have been born without empathy and never developed the moral sense to understand what was wrong with his actions. In fact, he sometimes seems confused about why he is not liked by his companions.

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* The assassin Jonathan Teatime from the ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''[[{{Discworld/Hogfather}} Hogfather]]'' does not seem to entirely understand that his actions (and he himself) are evil. As Susan Sto-Helit says when confronting him, "You were the little boy who didn't know the difference between throwing a stone at a cat and setting a cat on fire." Teatime is only an apprentice assassin. Not because he can't perform well, but because he is known within the Assasssin's Guild for overkill ''lack of elegance'' on his assignments, which in his case means killing not only killing the target but nailing the target's head to the wall and killing his family, servants, and househould pets.household pets on the way out for fun. On the other hand, he expresses a desire for friends, and seems to very sincerely wish to please his Guildmaster. As it is implied that he killed his own parents as a small child, Teatime may simply have been born without empathy and never developed the moral sense to understand what was wrong with his actions. In fact, he sometimes seems confused about why he is not liked by his companions.

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* Depending on how the metaplot finally plays out, it's entirely possible that the [=PCs=] of ''DarthsAndDroids'' may end up, through simple carelessness and/or GenreBlindness, having instigated or abetted each and every one of the evils that ''StarWars'' Episode III ends with, including but not limited to: the Galactic Empire, the Death Star, Boba Fett, and ''Darth Vader''. So far, only Pete seems to realize this, but he's in it ForTheEvulz anyway.
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*Many Nazis were just regular people who wanted to support their country and show patriotism. Many didn't even know that their government was... you know, murdering millions of innocent people.
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# This character has no idea they're doing ''anything'' objectionable. Contrast the KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist, and WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, who realize that others may object to their unusual methods, and the MinionWithAnFInEvil and PunchClockVillain who try to avoid KickTheDog moments.

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# This character has no idea they're doing ''anything'' objectionable. objectionable: In their own eyes, their actions are either good or [[SlidingScaleOfUnavoidableVersusUnforgivable unavoidable]]. If they at all see that they are in a bad situation, then they don't realize that they are part of the problem. For example, a SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny character might sexually assault women and feel as if he's ''their'' victim. Contrast the KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist, and WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, who realize that others may object to their unusual methods, and the MinionWithAnFInEvil and PunchClockVillain who try to avoid KickTheDog moments.
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* [[spoiler: Sohma Akito]] from ''FruitsBasket''. She does a HeelFaceTurn at the send of the series, after spending about 120 chapters ruining the other characters's lives.

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* [[spoiler: Sohma Akito]] from ''FruitsBasket''. She does a HeelFaceTurn at the send end of the series, after spending about 120 chapters ruining the other characters's characters' lives.
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* One of the killers in ''CriminalMinds'' was hallucinating that he was in a war zone and that his victims were members of the opposing army. In actuality, he was running around construction sites and his victims were innocent bystanders.

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* One of the killers in ''CriminalMinds'' was hallucinating that he was in a war zone and that his victims were members of the opposing army. In actuality, he was running around construction sites and his victims were innocent bystanders.
bystanders. In fact, a number of killers fit this trope by virtue of being insane or mentally disabled. Another good example is one murderer who comitted all his crimes while in a state of psychosis, then couldn't remember them afterwards. He was absolutely horrified when he found out what he'd done.

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