History Main / ObliviouslyEvil

13th Feb '16 6:28:20 AM Shadowgazer
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Contrast the CardCarryingVillain, who know they are evil and will proudly flout it. Contrast the KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist, and WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, who think they are doing good but generally realize that others may object to their unusual methods. Contrast the MinionWithAnFInEvil and PunchClockVillain, who try to avoid KickTheDog moments.
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Contrast the CardCarryingVillain, who know they are evil and will proudly flout it. Contrast Compare with the KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist, and WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, who think they are doing good but generally realize that others may object to their unusual methods. by being deliberately harmful and blaming the victims. Contrast the MinionWithAnFInEvil and PunchClockVillain, MinionWithAnFInEvil who try tries to avoid KickTheDog moments.
13th Feb '16 6:17:21 AM Shadowgazer
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* They could have a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality legitimate but completely alien value system]]. * They could just be [[AxCrazy insane]]. * They could just be [[HanlonsRazor stupid]]. * They might have [[KnightTemplar an infallible sense of their own morality.]]
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* They could have a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality legitimate but completely alien value system]]. * They system]] and while they know what they do they are convinced that is for the good of the victims, so simply said they could just be [[AxCrazy insane]]. * They could just be [[HanlonsRazor stupid]]. stupid]] and don't even understand that there are consequences for their acts. * They might have [[KnightTemplar an infallible sense of their own morality.]]]] This means they understand they are hurting people but justify it by blaming the victims and consider themselves good nonetheless.
12th Feb '16 9:38:23 AM SinistARGH
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* The Pyro from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is this. From [[AmbiguousGender their]] point of view, the battlefield is a SugarBowl in which they skip about, spraying rainbows and bubbles and giving candy to the happy and giggling opposing classes in baby cherub form. Actually, they stalk about searing people's flesh from their bones, ignoring their dying screams of agony and pleas for mercy as they hack them apart with a fire axe. It is pictured at the top of this page, imagining theirself spraying about a stream of rainbows when in reality, they are setting fire to the opposing team's base. (Although, [[NegativeContinuity this all seems to be contradicted]] by "A Cold Day in Hell" where the Pyro torches a Smokey the Bear {{Expy}} who complains about the fire; clearly they know what the weapon does here.)
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* The Pyro from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is this. From [[AmbiguousGender their]] point of view, the battlefield is a SugarBowl in which they skip about, spraying rainbows and bubbles and giving candy to the happy and giggling opposing classes in baby cherub form. Actually, they stalk about searing people's flesh from their bones, ignoring their dying screams of agony and pleas for mercy as they hack them apart with a fire axe. It is pictured at the top of this page, imagining theirself themself spraying about a stream of rainbows when in reality, they are setting fire to the opposing team's base. (Although, [[NegativeContinuity this all seems to be contradicted]] by "A Cold Day in Hell" where the Pyro torches a Smokey the Bear {{Expy}} who complains about the fire; clearly they know what the weapon does here.)
12th Feb '16 9:37:47 AM SinistARGH
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* The Pyro from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is this. From [[AmbiguousGender his/her/its]] point of view, the battlefield is a SugarBowl in which he/she/it skips about, spraying rainbows and bubbles and giving candy to the happy and giggling opposing classes in baby cherub form. Actually, he/she/it stalks about searing people's flesh from their bones, ignoring their dying screams of agony and pleas for mercy as he/she/it hacks them apart with a fire axe. It is pictured at the top of this page, imagining himself spraying about a stream of rainbows when in reality, he/she/it is setting fire to the opposing team's base. (Although, [[NegativeContinuity this all seems to be contradicted]] by "A Cold Day in Hell" where the Pyro torches a Smokey the Bear {{Expy}} who complains about the fire; clearly he/she/it knows what the weapon does here.)
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* The Pyro from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is this. From [[AmbiguousGender his/her/its]] their]] point of view, the battlefield is a SugarBowl in which he/she/it skips they skip about, spraying rainbows and bubbles and giving candy to the happy and giggling opposing classes in baby cherub form. Actually, he/she/it stalks they stalk about searing people's flesh from their bones, ignoring their dying screams of agony and pleas for mercy as he/she/it hacks they hack them apart with a fire axe. It is pictured at the top of this page, imagining himself theirself spraying about a stream of rainbows when in reality, he/she/it is they are setting fire to the opposing team's base. (Although, [[NegativeContinuity this all seems to be contradicted]] by "A Cold Day in Hell" where the Pyro torches a Smokey the Bear {{Expy}} who complains about the fire; clearly he/she/it knows they know what the weapon does here.)
8th Feb '16 3:57:00 PM ClearMadness
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* Blacknail the goblin protagonist of ''Literature/TheIronTeeth'' web serial doesn't have human morality, and in fact has never even really been exposed to morality as a concept. For instance it's never occurred to him that eating people would be bad.
3rd Feb '16 10:36:48 AM TheNerevarine
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* [[AlphaBitch Phaidor]] in Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs' ''[[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars The Gods of Mars]]''. Her people, the [[ReligionOfEvil Holy]] [[LightIsNotGood Therns]], promoted [[PathOfInspiration a millenia-long cult]] that practiced [[MadeASlave slavery]] and [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]] upon all other Martian races, [[FantasticRacism whom they regarded as inferior]]. When she is confronted about it by TheHero, she is completely naive as to why this would be morally abhorrent and considers such fate for a lesser creature to be a slave for them a privilege.
2nd Feb '16 4:22:34 AM narm00
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* Marauders in ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' are crazy mages whose powers constantly (and unconsciously) reshapes reality around them to follow their delusions. As the nature of their madness is such that they can't ever understand that they are living in their own alternate reality, they often cause an incredible amount of chaos and destruction while acting (from their own perspective) in a sensible and rational way.
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* Marauders in ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' are crazy mages whose powers constantly (and unconsciously) reshapes reshape reality around them to follow their delusions. As the nature of their madness is such that they can't ever understand that they are living in their own alternate reality, they often cause an incredible amount of chaos and destruction while acting (from their own perspective) in a sensible and rational way.

* Martha and Abby in ''ArsenicAndOldLace'' are two charming old ladies who invite charming old gentlemen to tea, then bury them in the basement. They haven't the slightest inkling there's anything wrong with their serial poisonings. The men are all lonely and unhappy, and Martha and Abby see it as putting them out of their misery.
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* Martha and Abby in ''ArsenicAndOldLace'' ''Theatre/ArsenicAndOldLace'' are two charming old ladies who invite charming old gentlemen to tea, then bury them in the basement. They haven't the slightest inkling there's anything wrong with their serial poisonings. The men are all lonely and unhappy, and Martha and Abby see it as putting them out of their misery.
26th Jan '16 11:51:43 AM ZimFan89
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* The Stone Giants in Film/TheHobbitAnUnexpectedJourney aren't trying to put the protagonists in horrible danger and possibly get them killed, they're just too busy fighting each other and the company is too small and insignificant for the Giants to notice they are there.
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* The Stone Giants in Film/TheHobbitAnUnexpectedJourney ''Film/TheHobbitAnUnexpectedJourney'' aren't trying to put the protagonists in horrible danger and possibly get them killed, they're just too busy fighting each other and the company is too small and insignificant for the Giants to notice they are there.there. * In ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', the arguably scariest thing about the titular BigBad is that he doesn't seem to understand that he's doing anything wrong. Ultron goes on about how he's going to [[WellIntentionedExtremist help humanity evolve in order to properly bring about peace]], but he plans to do this by engineering ''an extinction level event'', not seeming to realize that in doing so, there's not going to be anyone left alive to evolve.
22nd Jan '16 3:42:32 PM Godzillawolf
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** In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the [[BadFuture Dark World]] version of Fluttercruel is a definite Type 4. In "Angry Cruel Love", she tells Rarigreed that, for her, [[ColdBloodedTorture torturing other ponies]] shows her how much she loves her father (in addition to being fun for her). [[{{Squick}} And she loved no one more than her mother Fluttershy]]. So [[InsaneTrollLogic because she has fun torturing ponies, torturing her mother is 'sharing' the fun with her and therefore shows Fluttershy she loves her]]. Rarity quickly realizes instead of a psychotic monster, she's basically dealing with [[PsychopathicManchild a spoiled brat no one ever bothered to tell the difference between a handgun and a hug to]]. Doesn't change the fact she's a sadistic SerialKiller [[spoiler: or convince Rarity not to kill her (though she does so knowing no one alive could get it through her head it's wrong though]]. *** After [[spoiler: having her body destroyed]], ''something'' happens to her to make her start questioning her logic. During her next fight against the heroes (after she [[spoiler: [[BodySurf takes over Sparkler's body]]]]), she stops to wonder if she is wrong. Before Fluttercruel can decide for herself though, [[spoiler: Rancor betrays Discord]]. This distracts Fluttercruel from her thinking, and [[HeelFaceDoorSlam makes her forget about it]]. ** Another example from the same fic is Tom, a {{Golem}} born from Dark World!Rarity's Element of Desire reacting to her desire for the bolder Discord tricked her into think is a diamond (which she now believes is her ''husband'') to be alive and making it come true. Tom, being only a few seconds old at the time, genuinely doesn't know any better than what his mother tells him to do, which at the time is 'protect' her from the mane six's attempts to redeem her. [[ShootTheDog They end up having to kill him to save her]], something which is treated tragically due to this trope. ** The Changelings are also this for the most part. Their past two Queens have both lead them to believe ponies would kill them on sight if they knew what they really were and are their cattle. They also [[spoiler:covered up the fact that Changelings can passively feed, which is in fact ''superior'' to stealing love]]. All in all, nearly any Changeling who's not Chrysalis or [[MadDoctor Professor Kabuto]] is this trope [[spoiler:which contributes to their HeelRaceTurn.]]

* A few of the villains in ''Fanfic/TheOtherworldAnthology'' are like this. [[VideoGame/AmericanMcGeesAlice The American McGee Jabberwock]] blames Alice for Wonderland's corruption and believes destroying her will restore the world. [[Creator/HenrikIbsen The Queen of Trolls]] is trying to destroy humankind as she believes it'll help her people and will be justice for what Peer Gynt did to her. The anthology's version of [[WesternAnimation/BrandyAndMrWhiskers Mr. Whiskers]] thinks he's helping Brandy and Lola live better lives [[spoiler:by changing them from humans into, respectively, a dog and a snake, and keeping them in Otherworld under the Hatter's regime]].
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* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'': ** The [[BadFuture Dark World]] version of Fluttercruel is a definite Type 4. In "Angry Cruel Love", she tells Rarigreed that, for her, [[ColdBloodedTorture torturing other ponies]] shows her how much she loves her father (in addition to being fun for her). [[{{Squick}} And she loved no one more than her mother Fluttershy]]. So [[InsaneTrollLogic because she has fun torturing ponies, torturing her mother is 'sharing' the fun with her and therefore shows Fluttershy she loves her]]. Rarity quickly realizes instead of a psychotic monster, she's basically dealing with [[PsychopathicManchild a spoiled brat no one ever bothered to tell the difference between a handgun and a hug to]]. Doesn't change the fact she's a sadistic SerialKiller [[spoiler: or convince Rarity not to kill her (though she does so knowing no one alive could get it through her head it's wrong though]]. *** After [[spoiler: having her body destroyed]], ''something'' happens to her to make her start questioning her logic. During her next fight against the heroes (after she [[spoiler: [[BodySurf takes over Sparkler's body]]]]), she stops to wonder if she is wrong. Before Fluttercruel can decide for herself though, [[spoiler: Rancor betrays Discord]]. This distracts Fluttercruel from her thinking, and [[HeelFaceDoorSlam makes her forget about it]]. ** Another example from the same fic is Tom, a {{Golem}} born from Dark World!Rarity's Element of Desire reacting to her desire for the bolder Discord tricked her into think is a diamond (which she now believes is her ''husband'') to be alive and making it come true. Tom, being only a few seconds old at the time, genuinely doesn't know any better than what his mother tells him to do, which at the time is 'protect' her from the mane six's attempts to redeem her. [[ShootTheDog They end up having to kill him to save her]], something which is treated tragically due to this trope. ** The Changelings are also this for the most part. Their past two Queens have both lead them to believe ponies would kill them on sight if they knew what they really were and are their cattle. They also [[spoiler:covered up the fact that Changelings can passively feed, which is in fact ''superior'' to stealing love]]. All in all, nearly any Changeling who's not Chrysalis or [[MadDoctor Professor Kabuto]] is this trope [[spoiler:which contributes to their HeelRaceTurn.]] ** [[spoiler:Alula and Tootsie]] are this during the Finale Arc. [[spoiler:While they're Discord's CoDragons using MagicalGirl inspired powers, they have ''no idea'' they're on the bad side due to how they've been manipulated and lied to.]] * A few of the villains in ''Fanfic/TheOtherworldAnthology'' are like this. this [[VideoGame/AmericanMcGeesAlice The American McGee Jabberwock]] blames Alice for Wonderland's corruption and believes destroying her will restore the world. [[Creator/HenrikIbsen The Queen of Trolls]] is trying to destroy humankind as she believes it'll help her people and will be justice for what Peer Gynt did to her. The anthology's version of [[WesternAnimation/BrandyAndMrWhiskers Mr. Whiskers]] thinks he's helping Brandy and Lola live better lives [[spoiler:by changing them from humans into, respectively, a dog and a snake, and keeping them in Otherworld under the Hatter's regime]].
17th Jan '16 8:35:24 PM Shadoboy
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* Of the playable characters of ''TheBlackHeart'', [[UndeadChild Peketo]] ends up being the most evil, killing everything he finds in his path. This is because he is obsessed with the color red. He genuinely didn't understand why everyone made a fuss out of it when he was alive.
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