History Main / ObliviouslyEvil

19th Jul '16 1:47:50 AM Tyrathius
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** Played with in ''Film/JurassicWorld''. Most of the animals are operating on instinct... except the new dinosaur, a super-intelligent, genetically modified hybrid abomination called ''[[BigBad Indominus rex]]'', which basically amounts to being an AxCrazy, sapient ''dragon''. She also manages to get a flock of pterosaurs under her thrall, but they appear to only be serving her out of fear. Even the raptors are shown to act on instinct and hesitate to [[spoiler: attack Owen after their FaceHeelTurn,]] but not the ''I. rex'', who maintains a SlasherSmile while throwing the whole park into complete chaos.

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** Played with in ''Film/JurassicWorld''. Most of the animals are operating on instinct... except the new dinosaur, a super-intelligent, genetically modified hybrid abomination called ''[[BigBad Indominus rex]]'', which basically amounts to being an AxCrazy, sapient ''dragon''. She also manages to get a flock of pterosaurs under her thrall, but they appear to only be serving her out of fear. Even the raptors are shown to act on instinct and hesitate to [[spoiler: attack Owen after their FaceHeelTurn,]] but not the ''I. rex'', who maintains a SlasherSmile while throwing the whole park into complete chaos. However, even the I. Rex is not knowingly evil. Like the other dinosaurs, she's just running off of basic instinct. It's just that, for her, that includes slaughtering people and other dinosaurs for fun. [[GoneHorriblyRight Because that is the way her creators designed her to act]].
17th Jul '16 9:53:39 PM Mrmadrigal
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* Heck, in what is arguably his only appearance as an actual character in the series proper, Fire Lord Sozin, the man who started the Hundred Year War, lead the attempted genocide of the Air Nomads, and was responsible for most conflicts in the show, came up with it all with nothing but the honest intention of bringing his domain's progress and prosperity to everyone. He even brought up the subject to his best friend, Avatar Roku, protector of good and balance in the world at the time, expecting nothing but joy and support.

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* ** Heck, in what is arguably his only appearance as an actual character in the series proper, Fire Lord Sozin, the man who started the Hundred Year War, lead the attempted genocide of the Air Nomads, and was responsible for most conflicts in the show, came up with it all with nothing but the honest intention of bringing his domain's progress and prosperity to everyone. He even brought up the subject to his best friend, Avatar Roku, protector of good and balance in the world at the time, expecting nothing but joy and support.
17th Jul '16 9:52:46 PM Mrmadrigal
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* Heck, in what is arguably his only appearance as an actual character in the series proper, Fire Lord Sozin, the man who started the Hundred Year War, lead the attempted genocide of the Air Nomads, and was responsible for most conflicts in the show, came up with it all with nothing but the honest intention of bringing his domain's progress and prosperity to everyone. He even brought up the subject to his best friend, Avatar Roku, protector of good and balance in the world at the time, expecting nothing but joy and support.
8th Jul '16 3:46:03 PM StFan
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* Nappa from WebVideo/DragonBallAbridged does all of the same horrible things that he does [[Anime/DragonBallZ in the show]], but never seems to realize it.
* [[VillainProtagonist Twilight]] [[TheSociopath Acorna]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Sparkle]] from ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' seems utterly unable to even ''begin'' to comprehend how psychotically [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissistic]] and vindictive she is. As far as she's concerned, if she was evil, she wouldn't [[KarmaHoudini consistently get away with it all]].
-->''I threw myself into my studies/To have the world at my command\\
[[CrossesTheLineTwice I vaporized the competition]]/Nobody understands me\\
It's not/Evil!''
* In ''WebVideo/DeathNoteTheAbridgedSeriesKpts4tv'', [[SerialKiller Light Yagami]] is both [[PsychopathicManChild really naïve and really crazy]] so he truly doesn't understand that he's doing anything wrong.



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** You could argue that the humans themselves fit this trope for causing Grendel pain in the first place.



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* Of the playable characters of ''TheBlackHeart'', [[UndeadChild Peketo]] ends up being the most evil, killing everything he finds in his path. This is because he is obsessed with the color red. He genuinely didn't understand why everyone made a fuss out of it when he was alive.

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* Of the playable characters of ''TheBlackHeart'', ''VideoGame/TheBlackHeart'', [[UndeadChild Peketo]] ends up being the most evil, killing everything he finds in his path. This is because he is obsessed with the color red. He genuinely didn't understand why everyone made a fuss out of it when he was alive.



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* ''WebAnimation/AlfredsPlayhouse'': While in his blissfully ignorant happy place, Alfred Alfer does not realize that he's traumatizing the [[InnocentBystander FedEx guy]], [[CaptainObvious who isn't having as much fun as he is]].
* In ''WebAnimation/PokemonRusty'', Rusty thinks he's doing just fine, but his Pokemon tend to disagree.
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* Din and Jin from ''Webcomic/LasLindas''. They genuinely just want to have a good laugh at the other characters' expense. But their last big prank - tricking Sarah into throwing [[RobotHelper Digit's]] power gem down a well: a stunt that nearly destroys Digit AND the farm - crossed the line. And they still didn't really understand what the big deal was in the aftermath.
* In ''Webcomic/NoRestForTheWicked'', the witch from Hansel and Gretel isn't eating children out of malice or hunger. She lived out in the woods with her children (named Hansel and Gretel) but they were slowly dying from sickness. Going mad with grief, she thought there was no place to keep her children safe... except [[ImAHumanitarian "inside"]]. When the townspeople started abandoning their children in the woods, she thought that the lost children were Hansel and Gretel, who "escaped", and took them 'back in' again.

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* Din and Jin from ''Webcomic/LasLindas''. They genuinely just want to have a good laugh at the other characters' expense. But their last big prank - -- tricking Sarah into throwing [[RobotHelper Digit's]] power gem down a well: a stunt that nearly destroys Digit AND the farm - -- crossed the line. And they still didn't don't really understand what the big deal was is in the aftermath.
* In ''Webcomic/NoRestForTheWicked'', the witch from Hansel and Gretel isn't eating children out of malice or hunger. She lived out in the woods with her children (named Hansel and Gretel) but they were slowly dying from sickness. Going mad with grief, she thought there was no place to keep her children safe... except [[ImAHumanitarian "inside"]]. When the townspeople started abandoning their children in the woods, she thought that the lost children were Hansel and Gretel, who "escaped", and took them 'back in' again."back in" again. It actually is somewhat disturbing when [[spoiler:Red is pushing her into the oven]] and the witch starts to scream that they can't do this, she has children and no-one else can care for them...



** It actually somewhat disturbing when [[spoiler:Red is pushing her into the oven]] and the witch starts to scream that they can't do this, she has children and no-one else can care for them...



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* It's hard to say for certain that Kornada in ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'' is this, but at no point has he ever acknowledged or even appeared to consider how much harm his actions have caused. He simply wants more money, and he'll do whatever it takes to get that money, whether it's firing someone so he can retroactively blame them for sabotage if things go wrong, or leaving someone to drown rather than taking the time to save her, or destroying the minds of millions of robots as part of a plan to steal their funds. It's not that he's good, either -- he's never done anything to help someone that hasn't benefited him -- but the concept of good and evil seems above his capacity to comprehend. The only distinctions he makes are fair and unfair, and it's only unfair if someone else has something he doesn't.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'':
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It's hard to say for certain that Kornada in ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'' is this, but at no point has he ever acknowledged or even appeared to consider how much harm his actions have caused. He simply wants more money, and he'll do whatever it takes to get that money, whether it's firing someone so he can retroactively blame them for sabotage if things go wrong, or leaving someone to drown rather than taking the time to save her, or destroying the minds of millions of robots as part of a plan to steal their funds. It's not that he's good, either -- he's never done anything to help someone that hasn't benefited him -- but the concept of good and evil seems above his capacity to comprehend. The only distinctions he makes are fair and unfair, and it's only unfair if someone else has something he doesn't.






* Nappa from WebVideo/DragonBallAbridged does all of the same horrible things that he does [[Anime/DragonBallZ in the show]], but never seems to realize it.



* [[VillainProtagonist Twilight]] [[TheSociopath Acorna]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Sparkle]] from ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' seems utterly unable to even ''begin'' to comprehend how psychotically [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissistic]] and vindictive she is. As far as she's concerned, if she was evil, she wouldn't [[KarmaHoudini consistently get away with it all]].
-->''I threw myself into my studies/To have the world at my command''
-->''[[CrossesTheLineTwice I vaporized the competition]]/Nobody understands me''
-->''It's not/Evil!''



* In ''WebVideo/DeathNoteTheAbridgedSeriesKpts4tv'', [[SerialKiller Light Yagami]] is both [[PsychopathicManChild really naïve and really crazy]] so he truly doesn't understand that he's doing anything wrong.
* While in his blissfully ignorant happy place, [[WebAnimation/AlfredsPlayhouse Alfred Alfer]] does not realize that he's traumatizing the [[InnocentBystander FedEx guy]], [[CaptainObvious who isn't having as much fun as he is]].
* In ''WebAnimation/PokemonRusty'', Rusty thinks he's doing just fine, but his Pokemon tend to disagree.
* In Podcast/WelcomeToNightVale, the denizens of Desert Bluffs genuinely believe that conquering Night Vale and forcing them to worship the [[EldritchAbomination Smiling God]] is helping them reach their "full productive potential." (The Smiling God cult is organized as a corporation called Strex Corp.) Kevin in particular is so warped he interprets violence and distress as warm, happy things: he calls a choke a "hug" and thinks Night Vale citizens screaming and having seizures at the "Strex Corp Company Picnic" (read: work camp) are smiling and dancing and that killing and dismembering someone and smearing their remains all over the room is simply "decorating."

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* In ''WebVideo/DeathNoteTheAbridgedSeriesKpts4tv'', [[SerialKiller Light Yagami]] is both [[PsychopathicManChild really naïve and really crazy]] so he truly doesn't understand that he's doing anything wrong.
* While in his blissfully ignorant happy place, [[WebAnimation/AlfredsPlayhouse Alfred Alfer]] does not realize that he's traumatizing the [[InnocentBystander FedEx guy]], [[CaptainObvious who isn't having as much fun as he is]].
* In ''WebAnimation/PokemonRusty'', Rusty thinks he's doing just fine, but his Pokemon tend to disagree.
* In Podcast/WelcomeToNightVale,
''Podcast/WelcomeToNightVale'', the denizens of Desert Bluffs genuinely believe that conquering Night Vale and forcing them to worship the [[EldritchAbomination Smiling God]] is helping them reach their "full productive potential." (The Smiling God cult is organized as a corporation called Strex Corp.) Kevin in particular is so warped he interprets violence and distress as warm, happy things: he calls a choke a "hug" and thinks Night Vale citizens screaming and having seizures at the "Strex Corp Company Picnic" (read: work camp) are smiling and dancing and that killing and dismembering someone and smearing their remains all over the room is simply "decorating."



* The oft-mentioned-on-the-trope-page AlternateCharacterInterpretation of Rusty Venture in ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' is that he is actually more of a villain than a hero. At one point, he asked Brock if he was a bad person. He seemed genuinely upset at the concept. It also doesn't help that Brock is reluctant to say he's evil. He doesn't think Rusty's evil, he just thinks he's a {{Jerkass}}. And he's right.

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* The oft-mentioned-on-the-trope-page AlternateCharacterInterpretation of Rusty Venture in ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' is that he is actually more of a villain than a hero. At one point, he asked asks Brock if he was is a bad person. He seemed seems genuinely upset at the concept. It also doesn't help that Brock is reluctant to say he's evil. He doesn't think Rusty's evil, he just thinks he's a {{Jerkass}}. And he's right.



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* Similarly is [[MeaningfulName Lonesome Lennie]], from the ''ScrewySquirrel'' short of the same name, who isn't sure why his pets stop moving.

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* Similarly is [[MeaningfulName Lonesome Lennie]], from the ''ScrewySquirrel'' ''WesternAnimation/ScrewySquirrel'' short of the same name, who isn't sure why his pets stop moving.



* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'''s Eric Cartman, given his [[ComedicSociopathy infamous]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality nature]], is very often this. The most glaring example is his "superhero" alter-ego The Coon. In "Coon vs. Coon & Friends" he not only declares his fellow team members -- the ''actual'' heroes -- "evil", he [[spoiler:teams up with [[EldritchAbomination Cthulhu]] to destroy the [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Burning Man festival, Whole Foods, and]] Music/JustinBieber,]] all in the name of "good". (And it is very likely that he's genuinely insane and not just FauxAffablyEvil, since he shows himself to be schizophrenic on at least two occasions; and on at least one of those occasions his dual personality caused more misery to him than anyone else.)
-->'''Cartman:''' I'm making the world a better place, Kenny!\\

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'''s ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'':
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Eric Cartman, given his [[ComedicSociopathy infamous]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality nature]], is very often this. The most glaring example is his "superhero" alter-ego The Coon. In "Coon vs. Coon & Friends" he not only declares his fellow team members -- the ''actual'' heroes -- "evil", he [[spoiler:teams up with [[EldritchAbomination Cthulhu]] to destroy the [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Burning Man festival, Whole Foods, and]] Music/JustinBieber,]] all in the name of "good". (And it is very likely that he's genuinely insane and not just FauxAffablyEvil, since he shows himself to be schizophrenic on at least two occasions; and on at least one of those occasions his dual personality caused more misery to him than anyone else.)
-->'''Cartman:''' --->'''Cartman:''' I'm making the world a better place, Kenny!\\



'''Cartman:''' ''({{beat}})'' Right, that's what superheroes do.

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'''Cartman:''' ''({{beat}})'' ''[{{beat}}]'' Right, that's what superheroes do.



* In the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode, "A Friend In Deed", Pinkie is just trying to make friends with Cranky Doodle. Unfortunately, this involves publicly humiliating him, stalking him, breaking into his home, accidentally destroying his most prized possession, and otherwise terrorizing him.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
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In the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode, "A Friend In in Deed", Pinkie is just trying to make friends with Cranky Doodle. Unfortunately, this involves publicly humiliating him, stalking him, breaking into his home, accidentally destroying his most prized possession, and otherwise terrorizing him.



** "Wonderbolt Academy" gives us Lightning Dust, a hotshot who seems to believe that her need to prove herself and score points in exercises comes above the accomplishments and physical wellbeing of other ponies, to the point that her response to nearly ''killing five bystanders'' is "Yeah, so?"
** The Smooze in "Make New Friends But Keep Discord", who seems to be a mix of the "instinctual animal", "not smart enough to understand" and "EldritchAbomination" variants on this trope; he eats everything in sight (especially shiny things) because he likes to eat shiny things and once he gets big enough, covers the entire gala in his indestructible slime. All the while, he doesn't seem to realize that he's doing anything wrong.
* The ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGalaxyRangers'' had a couple cases, mostly with their GreenAesop episodes. In "Space Moby," the whales didn't understand that their asteroid feeding endangered the miners and the HonestCorporateExecutive that wanted the whales destroyed was just trying to protect his employees. A compromise is reached, and everyone wins. And in "Progress," the pair of aliens who set up a factory on a remote world didn't realize their "progress" was causing damage to the environment and driving the ocean-swelling inhabitants insane. They figure out how to turn a profit making pollution ''cleanup'' machines instead.

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** "Wonderbolt Academy" gives us Lightning Dust, a hotshot who seems to believe that her need to prove herself and score points in exercises comes above the accomplishments and physical wellbeing well-being of other ponies, to the point that her response to nearly ''killing five bystanders'' is "Yeah, so?"
** The Smooze in "Make New Friends But but Keep Discord", who seems to be a mix of the "instinctual animal", "not smart enough to understand" and "EldritchAbomination" variants on this trope; he eats everything in sight (especially shiny things) because he likes to eat shiny things and once he gets big enough, covers the entire gala in his indestructible slime. All the while, he doesn't seem to realize that he's doing anything wrong.
* The ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGalaxyRangers'' had has a couple cases, mostly with their GreenAesop episodes. In "Space Moby," the whales didn't understand that their asteroid feeding endangered the miners and the HonestCorporateExecutive that wanted the whales destroyed was just trying to protect his employees. A compromise is reached, and everyone wins. And in "Progress," the pair of aliens who set up a factory on a remote world didn't realize their "progress" was causing damage to the environment and driving the ocean-swelling inhabitants insane. They figure out how to turn a profit making pollution ''cleanup'' machines instead.



3rd Jul '16 10:02:05 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. Any creature that doesn't have the capacity to comprehend good and evil (those of animal intelligence, that is) are always neutral, no matter how much destruction they cause. This includes the tarrasque, which is capable of mass destruction when it's active.

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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''.''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''
** Averted. In the general setting.
Any creature that doesn't have the capacity to comprehend good and evil (those of animal intelligence, that is) are always neutral, no matter how much destruction they cause. This includes the tarrasque, which is capable of mass destruction when it's active.


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** A variation occurs in the ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting, where this Trope applies to ''every single'' Darklord. While their pasts, motives, [[StartOfDarkness how they began to fall into evil]] and [[MoralEventHorizon actions that condemned them]] tend to vary, there is one common threat, they ''all do not see their actions as wrong''. If a mortal ever has the need to struggle with morality issues over his acts, he cannot become a Darklord.
1st Jul '16 12:12:13 PM Anddrix
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** Lemongrab. He thinks that he's doing a good job ruling the kingdom, and his intentions of order and quietness are fair enough, but he makes all of his subjects miserable by sending them all to the dungeon. He isn't evil, though -- he's [[TheMentallyDisturbed dysfunctional and unadjusted to living]], [[NoSocialSkills socially inept]], and an [[WhatAnIdiot idiot]]. Later episodes change this dynamic a bit, to the point where the question of how responsible for his actions he is make him more than a bit of a BaseBreaker.

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** Lemongrab. He thinks that he's doing a good job ruling the kingdom, and his intentions of order and quietness are fair enough, but he makes all of his subjects miserable by sending them all to the dungeon. He isn't evil, though -- he's [[TheMentallyDisturbed dysfunctional and unadjusted to living]], [[NoSocialSkills socially inept]], and an [[WhatAnIdiot idiot]]. Later episodes change this dynamic a bit, to the point where the question of how responsible for his actions he is make him more than a bit of a BaseBreaker.
1st Jul '16 10:15:05 AM 10-13-2
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** This might also apply to the trolls and even to Gollum (or at least the Sméagol part of his personality), who are just hungry and genuinely [[IsItSomethingYouEat can't see their victims as anything other than food]]. Gollum even refers to sentient beings as "it" and hardly ever addresses them in the second person.
1st Jul '16 10:11:14 AM 10-13-2
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* They might [[InspectorJavert wrongfully believe]] that the people they are hurting are [[NotEvilJustMisunderstood evil or dangerous]].

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* They might [[InspectorJavert wrongfully believe]] that the people they are hurting are [[NotEvilJustMisunderstood evil or dangerous]]. The most fanatical of these will commit VanHelsingHateCrimes.



* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'''s Eric Cartman, given his [[ComedicSociopathy infamous]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality nature]], is very often this. The most glaring example is his "superhero" alter-ego The Coon. In "Coon vs. Coon & Friends" he not only declares his fellow team members -- the ''actual'' heroes -- "evil", he [[spoiler:teams up with [[EldritchAbomination Cthulhu]] to destroy the [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Burning Man festival, Whole Foods, and]] Music/JustinBieber,]] all in the name of "good".

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'''s Eric Cartman, given his [[ComedicSociopathy infamous]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality nature]], is very often this. The most glaring example is his "superhero" alter-ego The Coon. In "Coon vs. Coon & Friends" he not only declares his fellow team members -- the ''actual'' heroes -- "evil", he [[spoiler:teams up with [[EldritchAbomination Cthulhu]] to destroy the [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Burning Man festival, Whole Foods, and]] Music/JustinBieber,]] all in the name of "good". (And it is very likely that he's genuinely insane and not just FauxAffablyEvil, since he shows himself to be schizophrenic on at least two occasions; and on at least one of those occasions his dual personality caused more misery to him than anyone else.)
1st Jul '16 10:01:13 AM 10-13-2
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* They might have [[KnightTemplar an infallible sense of their own morality.]] This means they understand they are hurting people but justify it by blaming the victims and consider themselves good nonetheless.

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* They might have [[KnightTemplar an infallible sense of their own morality.]] This means they understand they are hurting people but justify it by blaming the victims and consider themselves good nonetheless. This type is usually serving some greater cause, such as [[HidingBehindReligion religious fundamentalism]] or [[MyCountryRightOrWrong fanatical patriotism]].




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* They [[SubvertedTrope really]] ''[[SubvertedTrope are]]'' [[SubvertedTrope evil]], and are [[FauxAffablyEvil just smarmily pretending to be innocent in order to twist the knife in their victims]].
29th Jun '16 5:20:12 AM longWriter
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* In the short story ''Literature/ItsAGoodLife'', but not the ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode it inspired, there is an omnipotent child that causes problems because of things he doesn't understand. Everyone acts like everything is perfect to try and [[StopHelpingMe keep him from trying to help.]]

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* In the short story ''Literature/ItsAGoodLife'', but not the ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode it inspired, there is an omnipotent child that causes problems because of things he doesn't understand. Everyone acts like everything is perfect to try and [[StopHelpingMe [[UnwantedAssistance keep him from trying to help.]]
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