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* ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven2016'': The final battle is a perfect example of [[CurbStompBattle just how effective]] these tactics would be against an opponent who uses ''actual'' tactics.
** On the attackers' side, Bogue's goons ride straight towards the town in a mad charge without bothering to check what possible countermeasures might be in place, all the while Bogue makes no attempt to use [[spoiler: the Gatling gun]] he brought along until ''after'' most of his men had gotten either slaughtered... or pinned down in the line of fire.
** The defenders on the other hand employ every single force multiplier available to them: using skirmishers, a variety of traps and obstacles, fighting trenches, sharpshooters in elevated positions, and exploiting the terrain (and the poorly-thought-out tactics of Bogue's hired guns) to lure his men into a series of ambushes.
** That said, [[spoiler: Goodnight and Billy]] meet their end because they made the critical error of [[spoiler: sniping from a very obvious location with limited cover]], despite the fact that the film made a show of them discussing the pros and cons of various locations ahead of time.
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* ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': The apes begin their attack on the surviving humans by charging down a narrow street, thickly packed together and making no effort to seek cover. Though they do eventually succeed in capturing the humans, they take heavy casualties in the process.
25th Nov '16 1:51:19 PM nombretomado
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Some critics see Hollywood Tactics as evidence of evil "Hollywood's politics" insisting that [[ArmiesAreEvil the military is always bad/wrong/evil]]. The concurrent claim that they tend "to be averted in the works of writers who actually served in the military, or even have significant military experience, including (among others) Creator/JohnRingo, DavidDrake, Tom Clancy, and Creator/RobertAHeinlein", which however sees these authors' pro-military if not militaristic bent as more important than their actual military experience (Heinlein served five years in the peacetime U. S. Navy before having to retire due to tuberculosis, Clancy did not serve at all due to bad eyesight). It should be noted, that military experience does not guarantee immunity from proposing terrible tactics and strategies, as for instance a lot of the literature produced about "the coming war" by retired and active military men before World War I demonstrates. And in real life even the best generals can use self-defeating tactics on an off day, even Robert E. Lee had his Pickett's Charge.

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Some critics see Hollywood Tactics as evidence of evil "Hollywood's politics" insisting that [[ArmiesAreEvil the military is always bad/wrong/evil]]. The concurrent claim that they tend "to be averted in the works of writers who actually served in the military, or even have significant military experience, including (among others) Creator/JohnRingo, DavidDrake, Creator/DavidDrake, Tom Clancy, and Creator/RobertAHeinlein", which however sees these authors' pro-military if not militaristic bent as more important than their actual military experience (Heinlein served five years in the peacetime U. S. Navy before having to retire due to tuberculosis, Clancy did not serve at all due to bad eyesight). It should be noted, that military experience does not guarantee immunity from proposing terrible tactics and strategies, as for instance a lot of the literature produced about "the coming war" by retired and active military men before World War I demonstrates. And in real life even the best generals can use self-defeating tactics on an off day, even Robert E. Lee had his Pickett's Charge.
15th Oct '16 7:40:45 PM nombretomado
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* ''[[Series/{{V}} V: The Final Battle]]'' was full of Hollywood tactics. Some examples:

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* ''[[Series/{{V}} ''[[Series/{{V1983}} V: The Final Battle]]'' was full of Hollywood tactics. Some examples:
19th Jul '16 9:34:14 AM Willbyr
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* ''CryHavoc'' mainly averts this, but plays it straight when it comes to psychers. Their psychic powers can make them virtually bullet proof, and allow for some very hollywood-esq tactics including a one (wo)man ZergRush against dug in opponents. The rest of the time, the dogs of war and rebels use real tactics such as suppression, maneuver, misinformation, combined arms, and ambush reaction.

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* ''CryHavoc'' ''Webcomic/CryHavoc'' mainly averts this, but plays it straight when it comes to psychers. Their psychic powers can make them virtually bullet proof, and allow for some very hollywood-esq tactics including a one (wo)man ZergRush against dug in opponents. The rest of the time, the dogs of war and rebels use real tactics such as suppression, maneuver, misinformation, combined arms, and ambush reaction.



-->'''Torg:''' ''Alright'', we'll need some of the townsfolk to chop down trees, mine for gold, and set up solar collectors in case we need to build more troops. Do we have any dragons yet?
-->'''Val:''' Why are the cute ones always insane?

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-->'''Torg:''' ''Alright'', we'll need some of the townsfolk to chop down trees, mine for gold, and set up solar collectors in case we need to build more troops. Do we have any dragons yet?
-->'''Val:'''
yet?\\
'''Val:'''
Why are the cute ones always insane?



* ''GIJoe''. Just to start, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN034sBeF4c the opening for the movie]] has COBRA's apparent goal to be destroying the Statue of Liberty. After somehow getting an airship right above it, instead of using a missile or dropping some bombs, they send hundreds of paratroopers (who would be falling all over each other if they're that close) and a couple air vehicles down to set one time bomb at the base of it and they have ships for backup which didn't even try to do anything until they were within about twenty feet of the island and got blown up by Joe fighter planes.

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* ''GIJoe''.''WesternAnimation/GIJoe''. Just to start, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN034sBeF4c the opening for the movie]] has COBRA's apparent goal to be destroying the Statue of Liberty. After somehow getting an airship right above it, instead of using a missile or dropping some bombs, they send hundreds of paratroopers (who would be falling all over each other if they're that close) and a couple air vehicles down to set one time bomb at the base of it and they have ships for backup which didn't even try to do anything until they were within about twenty feet of the island and got blown up by Joe fighter planes.
17th Jul '16 8:05:25 AM nombretomado
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** In the book ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'' the Tsortean and Agatean armies are lining up to face each other, and both sides build a load of wooden horses and hide in them.

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** In the book ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'' the Tsortean and Agatean Ephebian armies are lining up to face each other, and both sides build a load of wooden horses and hide in them.
8th Jul '16 8:51:47 PM nombretomado
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->''It is magnificent, but it is not war. It is madness.''

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->''It ->''"It is magnificent, but it is not war. It is madness.''"''
8th Jul '16 8:51:31 PM nombretomado
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* ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers]]''. "We do not retreat, whatever the reason." A rather stupid tactic for a group known as 'Rangers', whose job often involves [[BringNewsBack bringing back information]] on mysterious aliens of [[OutsideContextVillain terrifying technological superiority]].

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* ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers]]''. "We do not retreat, whatever the reason." A rather stupid tactic for a group known as 'Rangers', whose job often involves [[BringNewsBack bringing back information]] on mysterious aliens of [[OutsideContextVillain [[TechnologicallyAdvancedFoe terrifying technological superiority]].
27th Jun '16 2:35:56 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In space battles ([[AcrophobicBird or using aircraft]]), [[{{Two-DSpace}} failing to consider the third dimension]].

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* In space battles ([[AcrophobicBird or using aircraft]]), [[{{Two-DSpace}} [[TwoDSpace failing to consider the third dimension]].
18th Apr '16 4:47:06 AM SeptimusHeap
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* The {{Novelization}} of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer: Tiberium Wars'' has this in ''spades''. Among the most {{egregious}} examples of tactics in the book is a scene where a [[HumongousMecha Juggernaut artillery walker]] attacks a Nod machinegun emplacement. Does it use its cannons to bombard it from a distance as artillery emplacements are ''supposed'' to? No. Does it blast the emplacement directly with its cannons? Nope. It ''charges'' the emplacement and ''steps on it.'' Aside from the obvious stupidity of doing that, what kind of idiotic commander ''puts his artillery close enough to the enemy that it can '''step''' on their gun emplacements?'' Especially when the Juggernaut only has legs because it is supposed to stay out of the line of fire in the first place? (We have a trope page for the FixFic ''FanFic/TiberiumWars'', by the way.)

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* The {{Novelization}} of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer: Tiberium Wars'' ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars'' has this in ''spades''. Among the most {{egregious}} examples of tactics in the book is a scene where a [[HumongousMecha Juggernaut artillery walker]] attacks a Nod machinegun emplacement. Does it use its cannons to bombard it from a distance as artillery emplacements are ''supposed'' to? No. Does it blast the emplacement directly with its cannons? Nope. It ''charges'' the emplacement and ''steps on it.'' Aside from the obvious stupidity of doing that, what kind of idiotic commander ''puts his artillery close enough to the enemy that it can '''step''' on their gun emplacements?'' Especially when the Juggernaut only has legs because it is supposed to stay out of the line of fire in the first place? (We have a trope page for the FixFic ''FanFic/TiberiumWars'', by the way.)
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