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** The Sith make things a bit thorny, though, because Palpatine knew of an approved of that kind of ambition in his subordinates, especially Vader. There's also the fact that Vader didn't intend to actually turn on Palpatine until they had corrupted Luke. Basically, your average Sith apprentice is part [[TheStarscream Starscream]], part DragonWithAnAgenda, and part BastardUnderstudy, and Vader was no exception.

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** The Sith make things a bit thorny, though, because Palpatine knew of an and approved of that kind of ambition in his subordinates, especially Vader. There's also the fact that Vader didn't intend to actually turn on Palpatine until they had corrupted Luke. Basically, your average Sith apprentice is part [[TheStarscream Starscream]], part DragonWithAnAgenda, and part BastardUnderstudy, and Vader was no exception.



* In Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, it is revealed that Darth Vader has been Palpatine's Dragon with an Agenda much earlier than the "I am Your Father" Scene in Episode V mentioned under Film. Vader tries pulling off a similar speech to the young Starkiller, but proves unable to sway him.

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* In Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, StarWars: TheForceUnleashed, it is revealed that Darth Vader has been Palpatine's Dragon with an Agenda much earlier than the "I am Your Father" Scene in Episode V mentioned under Film. Vader tries pulling off a similar speech to the young Starkiller, but proves unable to sway him.
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* [[spoiler: Gin ]] from ''{{Bleach}}'' [[TheStarscream just wants to kill]] [[spoiler:[[BigBad Aizen]].
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* [[spoiler: Gin and Barragan]] from ''{{Bleach}}'' [[TheStarscream just wants to kill]] [[spoiler:[[BigBad Aizen]].

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* [[spoiler: Gin and Barragan]] ]] from ''{{Bleach}}'' [[TheStarscream just wants to kill]] [[spoiler:[[BigBad Aizen]].
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* [[spoiler: Gin and Barragan]] from ''{{Bleach}}'' [[TheStarscream just wants to kill]] [[spoiler:[[BigBad Aizen]].
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* Shenzi from ''TheLionKing'' has an agenda. As the Matriarch of the hyena clan, who the BigBad Scar used to keep the Pride Lands under control, she seemed to just want freedom, power and food for her clan.



* In ''TheLionKing'', it is almost stated than Shenzi's actual goal is providing for her clan rather than putting Scar on the Priderock.
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* In ''{{Angel}}'' the incorporeal demon Sahjhan tried to use Holtz as his dragon by offering him vengeance against Darla and Angel. However Sahjhan's true goal was actually to either prevent the birth of Connor, Angel and Darla's unborn son, or kill him as a child. Sahjhan quickly grew frustrated with Holtz's focus on punishing the vampires instead of simply killing them as quickly as possible i.e. before Darla gave birth. And then Holtz decided that ''stealing'' Angel's son and raising him as his own would be a more fitting punishment, at which point Sahjhan totally lost control of his ally.


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Most commonly, he and the BigBad have a mutually profitable alliance, and the BigBad just happens to be more powerful of the two. If he's also influencing the BigBad's plans, then he's at the same time the man in front of the man and TheManBehindTheMan. DragonInChief is when TheDragon is actually the more dangerous of the pair, by a significant margin.

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Most commonly, he and the BigBad have a mutually profitable alliance, and the BigBad just happens to be more powerful of the two. If he's also influencing the BigBad's plans, then he's at the same time the man in front of the man and TheManBehindTheMan. DragonInChief is when TheDragon is actually the more dangerous of the pair, by a significant margin. \n It is not unknown for him to have taken on service for his own purposes and fooled the BigBad into thinking he's subordinate.


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* In RobertEHoward's ConanTheBarbarian story "The Phoenix on the Sword", Ascalante. He was summoned to help the conspirators, and in his first appearance, comments on how his tools think he is their tool.
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* KingdomHearts: 358 Days Over 2 reveals that [[spoiler: Saix and Axel were planning on overthrowing Xemnas together, and Axel had actually been following Saix's plan throughout Chain of Memories. Neither of them get as far as becoming TheStarscream, however - Axel's friendship with Roxas and Xion leads him away from it, and Saix apparently ended up BecomingTheMask.]]

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* KingdomHearts: 358 Days Over 2 reveals that [[spoiler: Saix and Axel were planning on overthrowing Xemnas together, and Axel had actually been following Saix's plan throughout Chain of Memories. Neither of them get got as far as becoming TheStarscream, however - Axel's friendship with Roxas and Xion leads led him away from it, the plan, and Saix apparently ended up dropping the idea and BecomingTheMask.]]
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* Torg from SluggyFreelance seems to be doing this professionally now. First with the Minion Master, and now with Crushestro [[spoiler: ever since he found out that the Minion Master's sister betrayed him to Hereti-Corp]].
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** That would make him more of a Starscream than a Dragon with an Agenda, though, wouldn't it?

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** That would make him more of [[TheStarscream a Starscream Starscream]] than a Dragon with an Agenda, though, wouldn't it?
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* [[TheThrawnTrilogy Grand Admiral Thrawn and Jedi Master Joruus C'baoth]]. C'baoth took Thrawn's orders with more and more reluctance as time went on, and he wanted very different things. Towards the end they weren't really on the same side anymore. [[spoiler:Thrawn was fully aware of this, and at the time of his death was planning to solve the problem by [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness|eliminating C'baoth]] and [[SendInTheClones|making a replacement C'baoth]]. His own death, nearly simultaneous to C'baoth's, derailed his plan.]]

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* [[TheThrawnTrilogy Grand Admiral Thrawn and Jedi Master Joruus C'baoth]]. C'baoth took Thrawn's orders with more and more reluctance as time went on, and he wanted very different things. Towards the end they weren't really on the same side anymore. [[spoiler:Thrawn was fully aware of this, and at the time of his death was planning to solve the problem by [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness|eliminating [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness eliminating C'baoth]] and [[SendInTheClones|making [[SendInTheClones making a replacement C'baoth]]. His own death, nearly simultaneous to C'baoth's, derailed his plan.]]
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* [[TheThrawnTrilogy Grand Admiral Thrawn and Jedi Master Joruus C'baoth]]. C'baoth took Thrawn's orders with more and more reluctance as time went on, and he wanted very different things. Towards the end they weren't really on the same side anymore.

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* [[TheThrawnTrilogy Grand Admiral Thrawn and Jedi Master Joruus C'baoth]]. C'baoth took Thrawn's orders with more and more reluctance as time went on, and he wanted very different things. Towards the end they weren't really on the same side anymore. [[spoiler:Thrawn was fully aware of this, and at the time of his death was planning to solve the problem by [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness|eliminating C'baoth]] and [[SendInTheClones|making a replacement C'baoth]]. His own death, nearly simultaneous to C'baoth's, derailed his plan.]]
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** [[spoiler: Xigbar]] also seems to have shades of this, looking back after BirthBySleep, as he literally knows more about the backstory and mechanics of everything than the BigBad, and is almost certainly manipulating his boss to an extent.


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**Depending on how you look at it; technically, they both want what's best for Ankh-Morpork, but they ''do'' often differ on what exactly that means.
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* On ''{{Gargoyles}},'' [[TheFairFolk the Weird Sisters]] serve this role for the Archmage--he wants revenge on Goliath, while they want revenge on the Magus and the rest of the Avalon Clan. They couldn't really get on the island themselves, however, since Oberon had forbidden it; the reason they willingly put themselves under the Archmage's service was because they knew he would order them to do it, exploiting a loophole in Avalon's laws.

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* On ''{{Gargoyles}},'' [[TheFairFolk the Weird Sisters]] serve this role for the Archmage--he wants revenge on Goliath, while they want revenge on the Magus and the rest of the Avalon Clan. They couldn't really get on the island themselves, however, since Oberon had forbidden it; the reason they willingly put themselves under the Archmage's service was because they knew he ''he'' would order them to do it, go there, exploiting a loophole in Avalon's laws.
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* On ''{{Gargoyles}},'' [[TheFairFolk the Weird Sisters]] serve this role for the Archmage--he wants revenge on Goliath, while they want revenge on the Magus and the rest of the Avalon Clan. They couldn't really get on the island themselves, however, since Oberon had forbidden it; the reason they willingly put themselves under the Archmage's service was because they knew he would order them to do it, exploiting a loophole in Avalon's laws.
**They could arguably be considered this for Oberon later, though that depends on [[ChaoticNeutral whether or not he counts as a villain]]. WordOfGod says they ''are'' still plotting revenge, despite Oberon being at peace with the Avalon gargoyles.
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* [[spoiler: Cyril]] in Star Ocean 2
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*ScaryBlackMan Colonel Black is this to Commander Red in {{Dragonball}}.
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*In Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, it is revealed that Darth Vader has been Palpatine's Dragon with an Agenda much earlier than the "I am Your Father" Scene in Episode V mentioned under Film. Vader tries pulling off a similar speech to the young Starkiller, but proves unable to sway him.
**In the "Dark Side" DLC available for some versions of the game, Starkiller actually becomes a Dragon with an Agenda appealing to Luke Skywalker.

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* No mention of [[spoiler: Dark Zero]] from ''{{Kurohime}}''? Rather than follow the BigBad Yashohimes plan and rule the universe, he just wants to exterminate humanity.

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* No mention of [[spoiler: Dark Zero]] from ''{{Kurohime}}''? ''{{Kurohime}}''. Rather than follow the BigBad Yashohimes Yashahime's plan and rule the universe, he just wants to exterminate humanity.



*** I got the feeling that Sinestro was saying that just to delude himself into thinking he won. While, technically, he might have predicted the Guardian's response to his antics--I didn't get the feeling that he was playing that kind of game.
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* No mention of [[spoiler: Dark Zero]] from Kurohime? Rather than follow the BigBad Yashohimes plan and rule the universe, he just wants to exterminate humanity.

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* A intresting verity appearing in NeonGenesisEvangelion is [[MagnificentBastard Gendo]] [[LoveMakesYouEvil Ikari]] , playing TheDragon to [[BigBad Keel Lorenz]] by ensuring the destruction of the [[EldritchAbomination Angels]] to open the path to [[AssimilationPlot Insturmentality.]] Of course, once the path is open, he will immediately take things off the rails for his own [[LoveMakesYouCrazy scenario.]]
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* Jack Noir of ''{{Homestuck}}''. His agenda? [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous Not being forced by the Black Queen to wear a silly harlequin outfit all the time.]]
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* Seto Kaiba from YuGiOh did this to own Kaiba Corporation when he was what, twelve?

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* Seto Kaiba from YuGiOh ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}'' did this to own Kaiba Corporation when he was what, twelve?
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* In ''TheLionKing'', it is almost stated than Shenzi's actual goal is providing for her clan rather than putting Scar on the Priderock.
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** Before that we had the Thousand Year Door where power hungry [[BigBad Sir Grodus]] tried to unearth an ancient power. [[spoiler: Too bad said ancient power was a [[SealedEvilInACan demoness whom Bedlam served]], and wanted to spring free. Grodus ends up living as a talking head afterwards.]]

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** Before that we had the Thousand Year Door where power hungry [[BigBad Lord Grodus]] tried to unearth an ancient power. [[spoiler: Too bad said ancient power was a demoness whom Bedlam served, and wanted to spring free.]], Grodus ends up quite, quite dead. [[spoiler: No he doesn't. He just ends up living as a talking head. [[OverlyLongGag Well, for all of five seconds.]] THEN he ends up quite, quite dead.]] [[supersecretspoiler: No, he's still alive in the ending, although he's still just a head.]]

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** Before that we had the Thousand Year Door where power hungry [[BigBad Lord Sir Grodus]] tried to unearth an ancient power. [[spoiler: Too bad said ancient power was a [[SealedEvilInACan demoness whom Bedlam served, served]], and wanted to spring free.]], free. Grodus ends up quite, quite dead. [[spoiler: No he doesn't. He just ends up living as a talking head. [[OverlyLongGag Well, for all of five seconds.]] THEN he ends up quite, quite dead.]] [[supersecretspoiler: No, he's still alive in the ending, although he's still just a head.head afterwards.]]

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