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22nd Mar '18 5:37:18 PM angie710
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* Discussed on ''Series/AdamRuinsEverything'', with regard to breastfeeding vs. baby formula. One of Emily's friends berates her for using formula to feed her baby (who wouldn't latch at the hospital), saying that formula is "baby poison," and also that breastfeeding is the best or only way to bond with baby. Emily's mother-in-law, Patti, with the help of a researcher, shows her that formula is ''not'' toxic (as long as you use clean water and sterile bottles), it saved the lives of many babies whose mothers couldn't breastfeed, and that there's no ''conclusive'' evidence that using formula will adversely affect the baby's IQ or well-being...or that breastfeeding makes a difference in that regard. She and Adam also explain that breastfeeding is not the only way to bond with baby, and that the "love hormone" (oxytocin) is released while doing ''plenty'' of other things than breastfeeding (even things we might consider vices). The researcher explains that the view of formula as "baby poison" goes back to TheSeventies, when [[MegaCorp Nestle]] was marketing formula in poor countries, where clean water was not available, which led to the formula being contaminated by the dirty water, and in turn, a spike in infant death from diseases and parasites. This led to conspiracy theories, and the belief that formula is unsafe because it's artificial.

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* Discussed on ''Series/AdamRuinsEverything'', with regard to breastfeeding vs. baby formula. One of Emily's friends berates her for using formula to feed her baby (who wouldn't latch at the hospital), saying that formula is "baby poison," and also that breastfeeding is the best or only way to bond with baby. Emily's mother-in-law, Patti, with the help of a researcher, shows her that formula is ''not'' toxic (as long as you use clean water and sterile bottles), it saved the lives of many babies whose mothers couldn't breastfeed, and that there's no ''conclusive'' evidence that using formula will adversely affect the baby's IQ or well-being...or that breastfeeding makes a difference in that regard. She and Adam also explain that breastfeeding is not the only way to bond with baby, and that the "love hormone" (oxytocin) is released while doing ''plenty'' of other things than breastfeeding (even things we might consider vices). The researcher explains that the view of formula as "baby poison" goes back to TheSeventies, when [[MegaCorp Nestle]] was marketing formula in poor countries, where clean water was not available, which led to the formula being contaminated by the dirty water, and in turn, a spike in infant death from diseases and parasites. (Not helping matters was the fact that these impoverished mothers were diluting the formula to help it last longer, because it was expensive for them, which led to babies dying of malnutrition as well.) This led to conspiracy theories, and the belief that formula is unsafe because it's artificial.
21st Mar '18 7:11:10 PM angie710
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* Discussed on ''Series/AdamRuinsEverything'', with regard to breastfeeding vs. baby formula. One of Emily's friends berates her for using formula to feed her baby (who wouldn't latch at the hospital), saying that formula is "baby poison," and also that breastfeeding is the best or only way to bond with baby. Emily's mother-in-law, Patti, with the help of a researcher, shows her that formula is ''not'' toxic (as long as you use clean water and sterile bottles), it saved the lives of many babies whose mothers couldn't breastfeed, and that there's no ''conclusive'' evidence that using formula will adversely affect the baby's IQ or well-being...or that breastfeeding makes a difference in that regard. She and Adam also explain that breastfeeding is not the only way to bond with baby, and that the "love hormone" (oxytocin) is released while doing ''plenty'' of other things than breastfeeding (even things we might consider vices). The researcher explains that the view of formula as "baby poison" goes back to TheSeventies, when [[MegaCorp Nestle]] was marketing formula in poor countries, where clean water was not available, which led to the formula being contaminated by the dirty water, and in turn, a spike in infant death from diseases and parasites. This led to conspiracy theories, and the belief that formula is unsafe because it's artificial.
3rd Mar '18 8:12:07 AM CheeseDogX
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* Detective Somerset in ''Film/Se7en'' wears JadeColoredGlasses due to decades of seeing the worst humanity has to offer, and is vocal in his pessimism. At one point in the second half of the movie, he and Mills are sitting in a bar discussing the human condition. Mills accuses Somerset of wanting to think that people should give up on civilization and go live in a log cabin, as an excuse for why he's retiring.
12th Jan '18 3:33:17 PM khalcyon2011
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* ''Series/{{Eureka}}'' has an episode where everyone is becoming dumber, and the supposedly-a-genius farmer doesn't think the additives she are using are bad, since they are "organic".... In a town of super-geniuses, granted lacking in common sense sometimes, this seemed rather glaring in its stupidity.

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* ''Series/{{Eureka}}'' has an episode where everyone is becoming dumber, and the supposedly-a-genius farmer doesn't think the additives she are she's using are bad, since because they are "organic".... "organic"...In a town of super-geniuses, granted lacking in common sense sometimes, this seemed rather glaring in its stupidity.
8th Jan '18 11:26:38 AM bitemytail
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* Some of the supporters of [[StayInTheKitchen traditional gender roles and expectations]] (in particular, certain religious leaders), say that women are "oppressed" because they are (supposedly) overwhelmed with all the choices they have, or are unsatisfied with life because they picked options other than what's (supposedly) [[AppealToNature "natural."]]

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* Some of the supporters of [[StayInTheKitchen traditional gender roles and expectations]] (in particular, certain religious leaders), say that women are "oppressed" because they are (supposedly) overwhelmed with all the choices they have, or are unsatisfied with life because they picked options other than what's (supposedly) [[AppealToNature "natural."]] "
5th Jan '18 10:48:15 AM angie710
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* Some of the supporters of [[StayInTheKitchen traditional gender roles and expectations]] (in particular, certain religious leaders), say that women are "oppressed" because they are (supposedly) overwhelmed with all the choices they have, or are unsatisfied with life because they picked options other than what's (supposedly) [[AppealToNature "natural."]]
22nd Nov '17 5:08:51 PM nombretomado
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* The overuse and misuse of antibiotics, pesticides, and herbicides (and the resulting resistance and health and environmental effects) have led quite a few people to denouncing ''all'' use of them per the appeal to nature, right down to claiming a ConspiracyTheory that any or all of the above are part of a DepopulationBomb conspiracy. The problem is that while overuse and misuse needs to stop, to obliterate these products entirely (or allowing their continuing overuse and misuse to do just that by creating 100% resistance) ''will'' lead to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. Especially in regard to antibiotics -- these are the medications that turned such diseases as pneumonia, syphilis, and bubonic plague from terminal pandemic illnesses into quickly curable illnesses. In the same way, while many modern pesticides and their manufacture are bad for the environment, they are also a vital part in the control of disease-spreading, food-ruining, or venomous insect pests, especially for people and situations where setting up more natural methods of barriers and predators would be problematic. Ironically, organic farmers ''also'' use pesticides (made of "natural" toxins) which can be ''more'' harmful than synthetic ones since they are subject to far less testing. Additionally organic farming requires far more land use, meaning it could not possibly feed all the people necessary in today's world. The same arguments also apply to [=GMO=]s.

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* The overuse and misuse of antibiotics, pesticides, and herbicides (and the resulting resistance and health and environmental effects) have led quite a few people to denouncing ''all'' use of them per the appeal to nature, right down to claiming a ConspiracyTheory UsefulNotes/ConspiracyTheory that any or all of the above are part of a DepopulationBomb conspiracy. The problem is that while overuse and misuse needs to stop, to obliterate these products entirely (or allowing their continuing overuse and misuse to do just that by creating 100% resistance) ''will'' lead to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. Especially in regard to antibiotics -- these are the medications that turned such diseases as pneumonia, syphilis, and bubonic plague from terminal pandemic illnesses into quickly curable illnesses. In the same way, while many modern pesticides and their manufacture are bad for the environment, they are also a vital part in the control of disease-spreading, food-ruining, or venomous insect pests, especially for people and situations where setting up more natural methods of barriers and predators would be problematic. Ironically, organic farmers ''also'' use pesticides (made of "natural" toxins) which can be ''more'' harmful than synthetic ones since they are subject to far less testing. Additionally organic farming requires far more land use, meaning it could not possibly feed all the people necessary in today's world. The same arguments also apply to [=GMO=]s.
26th Jul '17 10:27:43 AM DoctorDetective
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26th Jul '17 10:26:54 AM DoctorDetective
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* In ''Film/JurassicPark'', Malcolm states that bringing back dinosaurs is bad partly because that's going against natural selection. [[note]]While he may have had a point if he meant to refer to the ethics of suddenly introducing genetically altered megafauna to a region with existing wildlife, his actual point is just that "they had their chance"[[\note]]

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* In ''Film/JurassicPark'', Malcolm states that bringing back dinosaurs is bad partly because that's going against natural selection. [[note]]While he may have had a point if he meant to refer to the ethics of suddenly introducing genetically altered megafauna to a region with existing wildlife, his actual point is just that "they had their chance"[[\note]]chance"[[/note]]
26th Jul '17 10:26:32 AM DoctorDetective
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* In ''Film/JurassicPark'', Malcolm states that bringing back dinosaurs is bad partly because that's going against natural selection.

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* In ''Film/JurassicPark'', Malcolm states that bringing back dinosaurs is bad partly because that's going against natural selection. [[note]]While he may have had a point if he meant to refer to the ethics of suddenly introducing genetically altered megafauna to a region with existing wildlife, his actual point is just that "they had their chance"[[\note]]
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