History Literature / HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows

18th Jan '17 7:44:20 PM turricaned
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** It was a twofer - Voldemort's using Harry's blood in his resurrection had the side-effect of [[spoiler:anchoring Harry's soul to life as long as Voldemort lived]]. Lily's willing self-sacrifice for Harry meant that Voldemort could not harm him as long as her blood was present - when Harry [[spoiler: goes to the forest and does the same, he protects ''everyone currently at Hogwarts'' with the same magic]]. After that point, if Voldemort tried to Curse anyone other than Harry, [[spoiler: it wouldn't have worked]] and when he does try, [[spoiler:the Elder Wand will not harm Harry, as Harry was it's master having Disarmed Draco earlier in the story]].
18th Jan '17 7:09:50 PM turricaned
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** Voldemort. Try to act surprised. First off, his final Horcrux was destroyed by Neville, after Voldemort made fun of him in front of everybody. The movie one-upped it though, where he was not only killed by the Avada Kedavra backfiring on him from the Elder Wand, but he also ended up disintegrated as well, not even leaving his body behind.

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** Voldemort. Try to act surprised. First off, his final Horcrux was destroyed by Neville, after Voldemort made fun of him in front of everybody. The movie one-upped it though, where was more spectacular - he was not only killed by the Avada Kedavra backfiring on him from the Elder Wand, but he also ended up disintegrated as well, not even leaving his body behind.behind. Opinion varies on whether his more mundane death in the book was more fitting - after all, Riddle/Voldemort's entire character arc grew out of his narcississm and distaste for anything he considered 'ordinary'.
18th Jan '17 6:06:47 PM turricaned
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** Heaven knows what this must have been like for Snape, who [[spoiler: gave his word to Dumbledore before the latter's death that he would [[ProtectThisHouse do everything in his power to protect the students no matter what happened]]]]. For almost a whole year he has to constantly strike a balance between reining the Carrows' worst behaviour (which includes torturing eleven-year-olds) in, yet not so much that it gives [[spoiler:his status as a double-agent]] away.


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** Alternatively, this could be a simple case of hubris-driven carelessness on Voldemort's part. He has no understanding of love, and has in fact spent the last two books ensuring Narcissa's loyalty by exploiting her fear of his harming Lucius or (especially) Draco. To Voldemort, love is synonymous with weakness - and the notion that Narcissa's love for her son could overcome the fear he's been cultivating in her for two years (to the extent that she could turn on him) is probably completely alien to him. Also, with Harry apparently dead, Nagini still alive and the Elder Wand in his hand it'd be entirely in-character for him to consider himself invincible - what possible threat could Narcissa pose that required the use of Legilimency?
18th Jan '17 4:55:37 PM turricaned
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*** Actually a form of Karmic symmetry - Neville's actions are all in pursuit of making it possible to kill Voldemort, which would undoubtedly [[MadLove hurt Bellatrix more]] [[IgnoredEnamoredUnderling than anything else he could do]]. She took away (but didn't actually kill) the people he loved the most; consciously or otherwise, he's returning the favour. [[spoiler: [[MamaBear Molly]]]], on the other hand...
5th Jan '17 5:00:27 AM Aurelian
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* KarmaHoudini: The Malfoys. Aside from Narcissa, they do little to redeem themselves. Draco specifically stands with Voldemort in the final battle trying the capture Harry in the Room of Requirement. They get off scott free it seems. Though to be fair they seem confused by it.

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* KarmaHoudini: The Malfoys. Aside from Narcissa, they do little to redeem themselves. Draco and Lucius fight for Voldemort until the end. Draco specifically stands with Voldemort in the final battle trying the capture Harry in the Room of Requirement. They get off scott free it seems. Though to be fair they seem confused by it.
4th Jan '17 8:00:10 AM spiderfreak1011
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* TragicDropout: The Trio. It's not like any of them would have dropped out of Hogwarts if Voldemort hadn't truly taken over. Before the release of ''Deathly Hallows'', fans debated endlessly if the trio had been serious about dropping out of Hogwarts or not - or if they would be forced to attend.

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* TragicDropout: The Trio. It's not like any of them would have dropped out of oof Hogwarts if Voldemort hadn't truly taken over. Before the release of ''Deathly Hallows'', fans debated endlessly if the trio had been serious about dropping out of Hogwarts or not - or if they would be forced to attend.


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* TraumaCongaLine: Oh man, where do we even start on this for Harry this time around, not even acknowledging the many other characters who experience this in the book. Well, the most notable things to traumatize Harry for life in this book are, [[spoiler: He loses his Pet and oldest friend from the Wizarding World at the beginning of the book, watches as one by one more and more people get hurt/punished/die to protect him from Voldemort including his Best Friends and Authority Figures around him, He and his Friends are struggling to get by in the wilderness on a hunt where they have little to nothing to go on for long periods of time and barely escape death every time they do get a lead, and to top it all off, he finds out his Dead Mentor has been setting up a Convoluted plan that in order to succeed, requires Harry to let Voldemort finally kill him after all these years of struggling to stay alive in order to finally defeat the man, for the greater good.]] How Harry manages to walk away by the end of the book without being completely and utterly devoid of Love and all Hope is truly Extraodinary.
4th Jan '17 7:35:13 AM spiderfreak1011
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* Irony: Neville, the other Child of the Original Prophecy that was said to be capable of standing against and fighting Voldemort, [[spoiler: is offered by the BigBad himself to join his side. Neville promptly refuses and is then insulted by Voldemort, and shortly after, he ends up killing Nagini, Voldemort's last Horcrux, rendering him mortal and helping to seal his fate once and for all.]] [[SelfFulfillingProphecy Good job helping Neville]] [[NiceJobFixingItVillain live up to his part of the Prophecy, Voldy!]]

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* Irony: {{Irony}}: Neville, the other Child of the Original Prophecy that was said to be capable of standing against and fighting Voldemort, [[spoiler: is offered by the BigBad himself to join his side. Neville promptly refuses and is then insulted by Voldemort, and shortly after, he ends up killing Nagini, Voldemort's last Horcrux, rendering him mortal and helping to seal his fate once and for all.]] [[SelfFulfillingProphecy Good job helping Neville]] [[NiceJobFixingItVillain live up to his part of the Prophecy, Voldy!]]
4th Jan '17 7:34:32 AM spiderfreak1011
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* WritersCannotDoMath: The revelation that James and Lily were only 21 when they were killed. Though it was already established that they were at least relatively young at the time, this leaves three years for them to join the order, become established and noteworthy members - considering who else was in the Order - Lily to be pregnant and have Harry, and the two to go into hiding (which was implied to have been over the course of several months). It does make the timeline rather cramped.

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* WritersCannotDoMath: The revelation that James and Lily were only 21 when they were killed. Though it was already established that they were at least relatively young at the time, this leaves three years for them to join the order, become established and noteworthy members - considering who else was in the Order - Avoid Death from [[BigBad Voldemort]] 3 times (which they had to have done according to the Prophecy) - Lily to be pregnant and have Harry, and the two to go into hiding (which was implied to have been over the course of several months). It does make the timeline rather cramped.
4th Jan '17 7:28:59 AM spiderfreak1011
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* Irony: Neville, the other Child of the Original Prophecy that was said to be capable of standing against and fighting Voldemort and set him after Harry in the first place, [[spoiler: is offered by Voldemort to join his side. Neville promptly refuses and is then insulted by Voldemort, and shortly after, Neville ends up killing Nagini, Voldemort's last Horcrux, rendering him mortal and helping to seal his fate once and for all.]] [[NiceJobFixingItVillain Good job helping Neville live up to his part of the Prophecy, Voldy!]]

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* Irony: Neville, the other Child of the Original Prophecy that was said to be capable of standing against and fighting Voldemort and set him after Harry in the first place, Voldemort, [[spoiler: is offered by Voldemort the BigBad himself to join his side. Neville promptly refuses and is then insulted by Voldemort, and shortly after, Neville he ends up killing Nagini, Voldemort's last Horcrux, rendering him mortal and helping to seal his fate once and for all.]] [[SelfFulfillingProphecy Good job helping Neville]] [[NiceJobFixingItVillain Good job helping Neville live up to his part of the Prophecy, Voldy!]]
4th Jan '17 7:25:51 AM spiderfreak1011
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* Irony: Neville, the other Child of the Original Prophecy that was said to be capable of standing against and fighting Voldemort and set him after Harry in the first place, [[spoiler: ends up killing Nagini, Voldemort's last Horcrux, rendering him mortal and helping to seal his fate after Voldemort insults him for being weak.]] Turns out Harry being marked by Voldy as the "Chosen One" wasn't the end of Neville's part in his defeat.

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* Irony: Neville, the other Child of the Original Prophecy that was said to be capable of standing against and fighting Voldemort and set him after Harry in the first place, [[spoiler: is offered by Voldemort to join his side. Neville promptly refuses and is then insulted by Voldemort, and shortly after, Neville ends up killing Nagini, Voldemort's last Horcrux, rendering him mortal and helping to seal his fate after Voldemort insults him once and for being weak.all.]] Turns out Harry being marked by Voldy as the "Chosen One" wasn't the end of Neville's [[NiceJobFixingItVillain Good job helping Neville live up to his part in his defeat.of the Prophecy, Voldy!]]
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