History Literature / EarthsChildren

29th Apr '16 7:21:05 AM Clare
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** In The Mammoth Hunters: Ayla teaches Rydag, a Clan child raised by Cro-Magnon humans, some Clan sign language including Mother, which he then uses on the woman who is taking care of him.

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** In The Mammoth Hunters: Ayla teaches Rydag, a Clan half-Clan child raised by Cro-Magnon humans, some Clan sign language including Mother, which he then uses on the woman who is taking care of him.
29th Apr '16 7:14:42 AM Clare
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* MaritalRapeLicense: When men of the Clan make "the Signal," women are expected to drop everything and present for a sexual encounter. The Signal is generally done only with one's mate, but it can be given to any female if [[ImAManICantHelpIt the male's need is that pressing]]. Broud does it to Ayla only to [[WalkyVerse pound her viciously]] (he's a [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence sadistic bully]]), and Ayla is shocked to learn later that other women ''like'' sex and are not above flirting with their men. Even Clan women employ certain seductive postures and motions to give men ideas.

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* MaritalRapeLicense: When men of the Clan make "the Signal," women are expected to drop everything and present for a sexual encounter. The Signal is generally done only with one's mate, but it can be given to any female if [[ImAManICantHelpIt the male's need is that pressing]].pressing]] and the female in question is not his sister. Broud does it to Ayla only to [[WalkyVerse pound her viciously]] (he's a [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence sadistic bully]]), and Ayla is shocked to learn later that other women ''like'' sex and are not above flirting with their men. Even Clan women employ certain seductive postures and motions to give men ideas.
21st Mar '16 7:55:18 PM BuccoBabe
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* {{Gendercide}}: This is Attaroa's ultimate goal for her people, using a concentration camp and forced labor as an intermediary step. [[WhatAnIdiot She thinks women will just give birth to girls after all the men die.]]

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* {{Gendercide}}: This is Attaroa's ultimate goal for her people, using a concentration camp and forced labor as an intermediary step. [[WhatAnIdiot She Since -- like pretty much everyone except Ayla in this setting -- she has no idea how women conceive, she thinks women will just give birth to girls after all the men die.]]
23rd Jan '16 12:41:10 AM Seanette
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* LovingDeatils: In ''The Valley of Horses'' and following books, Ayla demonstrates a remarkable memory to Jondolar—specifically, when she learns that his morning routine includes a cup of tea and a small stick with which to clean his teeth, she makes a point of having those available to him every morning. At first he is impressed, but eventually it becomes routine. Then in the following book, ''The Mammoth Hunters,'' they break up—but then, Jondolar realizes that she's ''still putting them out for him every morning.'' This makes him realize that she still loves him.

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* LovingDeatils: LovingDetails: In ''The Valley of Horses'' and following books, Ayla demonstrates a remarkable memory to Jondolar—specifically, when she learns that his morning routine includes a cup of tea and a small stick with which to clean his teeth, she makes a point of having those available to him every morning. At first he is impressed, but eventually it becomes routine. Then in the following book, ''The Mammoth Hunters,'' they break up—but then, Jondolar realizes that she's ''still putting them out for him every morning.'' This makes him realize that she still loves him.
22nd Jan '16 6:55:10 AM Clare
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* DeadGuyJunior: Or, in this case, Dead Girl Junior. Uba was named in memory of her long dead great-grandmother.


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* YouAreGrounded: Ayla's punishment for trying to force Brun into accepting her "deformed" son, Durc, is to have her freedom to come and go as she pleases curtailed. Initially, she is confined to Creb's hearth for a month, her existence unacknowledged by those who do not share the same living space. After that, she is forbidden to leave the area of the cave except to go on essential plant-gathering forays; even then, she has to ask Brun's permission and is under strict orders to return promptly. Her hunting privileges are also revoked. These restrictions remain in force until after Brun's clan return from the Clan Gathering.
4th Jan '16 8:50:44 PM kittenmommy
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* IdiotPlot: ''The Mammoth Hunters''. See: PoorCommunicationKills below.
4th Jan '16 8:49:33 PM kittenmommy
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*IdiotPlot: ''The Mammoth Hunters''. See: PoorCommunicationKills below.
15th Oct '15 1:36:21 PM jayoungr
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* LovingDeatils: In ''The Valley of Horses'' and following books, Ayla demonstrates a remarkable memory to Jondolar—specifically, when she learns that his morning routine includes a cup of tea and a small stick with which to clean his teeth, she makes a point of having those available to him every morning. At first he is impressed, but eventually it becomes routine. Then in the following book, ''The Mammoth Hunters,'' they break up—but then, Jondolar realizes that she's ''still putting them out for him every morning.'' This makes him realize that she still loves him.
24th Sep '15 5:43:09 PM Deathpaw
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* PoorCommunicationKills: If it weren't for the lack of actual resultant deaths, ''The Mammoth Hunters'' could be subtitled ''PoorCommunicationKills: the Novel.'' Ayla may have learned to speak Mamutoi and Zelandonii, but she and Jondalar still spend the entire book perpetually miscommunicating and misinterpreting each other. Part of the problem is that their unspoken cultural assumptions are totally incompatible; the other half of the problem is Jondalar's numerous silly hang-ups, unwillingness to just tell Ayla he's jealous, and rather low self-confidence. This trope nearly breaks them apart permanently before the Mamutoi finally talk sense into Ayla.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: If it weren't for the lack of actual resultant deaths, ''The Mammoth Hunters'' could be subtitled ''PoorCommunicationKills: the Novel.'' Ayla may have learned to speak Mamutoi and Zelandonii, but she and Jondalar still spend the entire book perpetually miscommunicating and misinterpreting each other. Part of the problem is that their unspoken cultural assumptions are totally incompatible; the other half of the problem is Jondalar's numerous silly hang-ups, unwillingness to just tell Ayla he's jealous, and rather low self-confidence. This trope nearly breaks them Ayla and Jondalar apart permanently before the Mamutoi finally talk sense into Ayla.them.
**What makes it worse is that Lion Camp, for the most part, knows what is going on and no one truly attempts to intervene. Ayla and Jondalar, young and inexperienced as they are in long-term romantic relationships, are left to continue in misunderstanding, even when Jondalar is near-suicidal and Ayla gets engaged while in a compromised emotional state. Meanwhile, the older and wiser adults (particularly Mamut and Nezzie) continue to watch instead of attempting to explain. For example, Ayla, whose only consensual relationship was with Jondalar, gets involved with Ranec on the rebound. She had no way of knowing about 'rebound' prior, and none of the Mamutoi take the time to explain to or warn her. Mamut, who understands Clan values, explains the idea of consent to Ayla. However, he does not explain to Jondalar that with Ayla's Clan background, she honestly doesn't know why Jondalar is hurt and jealous after she goes to bed with Ranec. For that matter, no one explains to Ranec that Ayla took his invitation as a command, etc., etc.
4th Sep '15 3:54:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* DatedHistory:
** The idea of The Clan using sign language was based on a theory that Neanderthal vocal cords were constructed in a way that limited the range of sounds they could verbalize. Specifically, there was no evidence that they had a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoid_bone#Function hyoid bone]]. Recent excavations have debunked this, as a hyoid bone has been found in Neanderthal remains.
** Neanderthals are portrayed as almost universally dark-haired while Cro-Magnons show all the phenotypes found in modern (mostly European) humans. Recent studies in neanderthal mDNA have shown that at least some of them were red-haired. Additionally, its likely that the Cro-Magnons would have been fairly dark skinned, since they'd have recently (from an evolutionary perspective) immigrated out of Africa.
** The technology and cultures of the Others are a mixture of several different distinct Late Pleistocene material cultures, now known to have been separated by multi-millennial gaps in time.



* HistoryMarchesOn:
** The idea of The Clan using sign language was based on a theory that Neanderthal vocal cords were constructed in a way that limited the range of sounds they could verbalize. Specifically, there was no evidence that they had a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoid_bone#Function hyoid bone]]. Recent excavations have debunked this, as a hyoid bone has been found in Neanderthal remains.
** Neanderthals are portrayed as almost universally dark-haired while Cro-Magnons show all the phenotypes found in modern (mostly European) humans. Recent studies in neanderthal mDNA have shown that at least some of them were red-haired. Additionally, its likely that the Cro-Magnons would have been fairly dark skinned, since they'd have recently (from an evolutionary perspective) immigrated out of Africa.
** The technology and cultures of the Others are a mixture of several different distinct Late Pleistocene material cultures, now known to have been separated by multi-millennial gaps in time.



* OneMillionBC: Averted with a vengeance. The author did a lot of research, and loves to go on for pages about the landscape, ecology, wildlife, and technology, all of it suitably Late Pleistocene. She did get some things wrong (see HistoryMarchesOn) and certainly made up the stuff about the Clan's society and GeneticMemory, but she took the effort to make it mostly accurate.

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* OneMillionBC: Averted with a vengeance. The author did a lot of research, and loves to go on for pages about the landscape, ecology, wildlife, and technology, all of it suitably Late Pleistocene. She did get some things wrong (see HistoryMarchesOn) and certainly made up the stuff about the Clan's society and GeneticMemory, but she took the effort to make it mostly accurate.
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