History Literature / EarthsChildren

25th Feb '17 12:47:03 PM GlassPrism
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* CannotTellALie: To Ayla's detriment and near death in Clan of the Cave Bear. After Ayla saves Brac, Broud's son, the clan finds out that Ayla can hunt. Later, the men have a meeting to question her. When Ayla tells them how many years she has practiced and hunted, Zoug points out that Vorn has been hunting as long. Why, when Broud is actually feeling grateful to Ayla, does Ayla volunteer the specific statement of, 'I know. I started the same day Vorn did. I know this because I saw his first lesson with Zoug, and I saw Broud push Zoug, which made Brun angry'? Ayla could have said nothing, or at least, "Yes, I started the same year he did." and, if pressed "That was the winter that Zoug started explaining hunting to Vorn", or "That is when the hunters began taking Vorn out with them", or "That was when I watched Vorn begin practice sling-hunting near the cave". Any of those things may have worked, even in the structure of Clan language that did not permit lies. While it must be stressed that Broud's treatment of Ayla is his fault, refraining from all of the details may have changed the later events of the book, particularly the Broud/Ayla clashes.

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* CannotTellALie: To Ayla's detriment and near death in Clan of the Cave Bear. After Ayla saves Brac, Broud's son, the clan finds out that Ayla can hunt. Later, the men have a meeting to question her. When Ayla tells them how many years she has practiced and hunted, Zoug points out that Vorn has been hunting as long. Why, when Broud is actually feeling grateful to Ayla, does Ayla volunteer the specific statement of, 'I know. I started the same day Vorn did. I know this because I saw his first lesson with Zoug, and I saw Broud push Zoug, which made Brun angry'? Ayla could have said nothing, or at least, "Yes, I started the same year he did." and, if pressed "That was the winter that Zoug started explaining hunting to Vorn", or "That is when the hunters began taking Vorn out with them", or "That was when I watched Vorn begin practice sling-hunting near the cave". Any of those things may have worked, even in the structure of Clan language that did not permit lies. While it must be stressed that Broud's treatment of Ayla is his fault, refraining from Literally for all of the details may have changed Clan. Their use of sign language means that nobody can tell a lie, as their body language would give it away. Ayla adheres to this even when she learns to speak in Cro-Magnon language. The books repeatedly state that the later events of closest the book, particularly Clan gets to lying is omitting information. Ayla attempts the Broud/Ayla clashes.latter unsuccessfully in the first book when she is being interrogated about how she learned to hunt: when asked when she started to learn, she simply says she was there and happened to watch. It is only under direct questioning by Broud and Brun that she is forced to answer that she saw Broud being embarrassed.
13th Dec '16 5:55:56 AM Clare
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* BewilderingPunishment: When Ayla is first learning the Clan's sign language, she tries to expand her vocabulary by watching people signing to each other. But staring at other people's private conversations is considered to be bad manners, especially if that conversation is taking place at another family's hearth, and Creb eventually has to tell Ayla to stop. Though Ayla isn't actually punished for her transgression, she is bewildered by Creb's behaviour towards her, partly because she was unaware that she was doing anything wrong, but mostly because Creb has never scolded her before.

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* BewilderingPunishment: When Ayla is first learning the Clan's sign language, she tries to expand her vocabulary by watching people signing to each other. But staring at other people's private conversations is considered to be bad manners, especially if that conversation is taking place at another family's hearth, and Creb eventually has to tell Ayla to stop. Though Ayla isn't actually punished for her transgression, she is bewildered by Creb's behaviour towards her, partly because she was unaware that she was doing anything wrong, but mostly because Creb he has never scolded her before.


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* InfantImmortality:
** Played straight with the five-year-old Ayla, who somehow manages to survive alone for an unspecified number of days despite having no knowledge of how to fend for herself other than making sure to stay near water in order to avoid dehydration. She does come close to dying from the combined effects of starvation and blood poisoning (caused by the infected cave lion scratches on her leg) but Iza finds her in time and nurses her back to health.
** However, the series also contains a few aversions. Rydag, for example, is around six or seven years old when he dies from his congenital heart defect.
30th Nov '16 5:07:36 AM Clare
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* BewilderingPunishment: When Ayla is first learning the Clan's sign language, she tries to expand her vocabulary by watching people signing to each other. But staring at other people's private conversations is considered to be bad manner, especially if that conversation is taking place at another family's hearth, and Creb eventually has to tell Ayla to stop. Though Ayla isn't actually punished for her transgression, she is bewildered by Creb's behaviour towards her, partly because she was unaware that she was doing anything wrong, but mostly because Creb has never scolded her before.

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* BewilderingPunishment: When Ayla is first learning the Clan's sign language, she tries to expand her vocabulary by watching people signing to each other. But staring at other people's private conversations is considered to be bad manner, manners, especially if that conversation is taking place at another family's hearth, and Creb eventually has to tell Ayla to stop. Though Ayla isn't actually punished for her transgression, she is bewildered by Creb's behaviour towards her, partly because she was unaware that she was doing anything wrong, but mostly because Creb has never scolded her before.
30th Nov '16 5:02:39 AM Clare
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* BewilderingPunishment: When Ayla is first learning the Clan's sign language, she tries to expand her vocabulary by watching people signing to each other. But staring at other people's private conversations is considered to be bad manner, especially if that conversation is taking place at another family's hearth, and Creb eventually has to tell Ayla to stop. Though Ayla isn't actually punished for her transgression, she is bewildered by Creb's behaviour towards her, partly because she was unaware that she was doing anything wrong, but mostly because Creb has never scolded her before.
6th Nov '16 10:00:23 PM Stevebob
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** Laramar, a loutish Zelandonii man who does nothing but drink the alcohol he brews, neglects his kids and eventually disowns them.
** Brukeval, though he's almost certainly in JerkassWoobie territory.
** Even Jondalar can be a bit of a Jerkass at times, [[TookALevelInJerkass especially in the third book]]. However, it' usually only when he's under a great deal of stress and he's mostly a decent guy. He also regrets and tries to amends for his Jerkass behaviour.
6th Nov '16 9:51:34 PM Stevebob
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* AmbiguousGender: The shaman of the Sharamudoi tribe.

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* AmbiguousGender: The shaman of the Sharamudoi tribe.tribe and Attaroa's child, Omel.
6th Aug '16 2:31:34 PM morenohijazo
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* ScavengersAreScum: Ayla has a strong aversion to hyenas, ever since a hyena grabbed a baby during a mammoth hunt. She sees hyenas as scum and will never allow a hyena around. She is otherwise a FriendToAllLivingThings (even those she kills for food).
23rd Jun '16 1:08:21 AM Chytus
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* AuthorFilibuster: In ''Plains of Passage'', there's a SceneryPorn segment just like any other which suddenly segues into several pages of telling the reader the despoiling of nature that's going to be committed by the people of the future is, in fact, wrong on a spiritual level.



* CannotTellALie: To Ayla's detriment and near death in Clan of the Cave Bear. After Ayla saves Brac, Broud's son, the clan finds out that Ayla can hunt. Later, the men have a meeting to question her. When Ayla tells them how many years she has practiced and hunted, Zoug points out that Vorn has been hunting as long. Why, when Broud is actually feeling grateful to Ayla, does Ayla volunteer the specific statement of, 'I know. I started the same day Vorn did. I know this because I saw his first lesson with Zoug, and I saw Broud push Zoug, which made Brun angry'? Ayla could have said nothing, or at least, "Yes, I started the same year he did." and, if pressed "That was the winter that Zoug started explaining hunting to Vorn", or "That is when the hunters began taking Vorn out with them", or "That was when I watched Vorn begin practice sling-hunting near the cave". Any of those things may have worked, even in the structure of Clan language that did not permit lies. While it must be stressed that Broud's treatment of Ayla is his fault, refraining from all of the details may have changed the later events of the book, particularly the Broud/Ayla clashes.



* FeeFiFauxPas: Particularly during the first book, during which Ayla usually does whatever she wants to, even if it's in direct defiance of Clan traditions. ([[spoiler:In the end they curse her with death. She's so cool, she outlives the death curse. Also, she's cursed again, and there are five more books!]] )

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* FeeFiFauxPas: Particularly during the first book, during which Ayla usually does whatever she wants to, even if it's in direct defiance of Clan traditions. ([[spoiler:In (In the end they curse her with death. She's so cool, she outlives the death curse. Also, she's cursed again, and there are five more books!]] )books!)



* IThoughtEveryoneCouldDoThat: Ayla's CanonSue powers are often like this. Somewhat justified, as her "inventions" probably aren't entirely hers. This is really WMG, but at least some of the things that just suddenly occur to her seem to be intended as clues to her past, memories of what she saw in her birth tribe. By the age of five, one observes and stores away quite a bit. When she finds the people who already have the things she's "invented," she will know she's closer to home. The fact that Ayla is repeatedly described as "exotic" is another clue that her tribe is elsewhere. Of course, by the end of book 4, she's about a continent away from where the Clan found her. And the author seems to have given up entirely on solving either Ayla's background or what became of her son by series' end.

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* InfoDump
** Increasingly as the series progresses. Auel rhapsodizes about the locales she sets the action in, as well as the ways her characters, as allegories for the areas' real ancient inhabitants, lived off the land and adapted to their environment. The flora and fauna are also described in detail, as well as their uses in both medicine and as food, to the point where readers of George Martin's ASongOfIceandFire series might wonder if he [[FollowtheLeader takes cues from her about how to describe a meal]]. But her acknowledgments had to be moved from the beginning of her books to the end because they got exponentially lengthy, and the research she did has often been cited as one of the main reasons for the ever-expanding delay between sequels. Ultimately, her painstaking devotion to including as much of her research as possible in the story has become something of a detraction from the later novels, especially ''Land of Painted Caves'', with readers complaining that her focus on the backdrop has caused the advancement of the plot and development of her characters to suffer.
** She also does this a lot when it comes to retelling aspects of the story that has come before. Granted that by the time she got to ''Shelters of Stone'', [[DoorStopper there was a lot of material to remember]], but Auel would often rehash the same things more than once within the space of a few ''pages'', both in a character's thoughts and in conversations that seem to just cover the same ground over and over and ''over''. One wonders if she wasn't sure people would remember what they'd read before.
* IThoughtEveryoneCouldDoThat: Ayla's CanonSue powers are often like this. Somewhat justified, as her "inventions" probably aren't entirely hers. This is really WMG, but at least some of the things that just suddenly occur to her seem to be intended as clues to her past, memories of what she saw in her birth tribe. By the age of five, one observes and stores away quite a bit. When she finds the people who already have the things she's "invented," she will know she's closer to home. The fact that Ayla is repeatedly described as "exotic" is another clue that her tribe is elsewhere. Of course, by the end of book 4, she's about a continent away from where the Clan found her. And the author seems to have given up entirely on solving either Ayla's background or what became of her son by series' end.


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* TitleDrop: The words "shelters of stone" get used a great many times in the book of the same name, as that is how caves are described and the characters pretty much always live in caves.
5th Jun '16 2:50:00 AM Morgenthaler
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16th May '16 10:09:42 AM CaptEquinox
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** In ''The Land of Painted Caves'' the would-be priest who was found to have cheated on an important test is called Madroman (he's a madman! and insanely jealous of Jondalar).
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