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Good People Have Good Sex
In Heaven, they make love...
...on Earth, they have sex...
...but down here in Hell...down here, they fuck.
Silverblue, Jack

Main characters and other positive characters always have healthy sex lives. They might go through long periods of not being in a relationship (they may even be Hollywood Dateless) during which they may have a lot of good sex anyway or not. But when they are in one, the sex is frequent and good (unless the relationship is near its end).

Another version is that when villains have sex, it tends to be quick and emotionless. It will often be treated as an act of self-gratification and only the dominant villain will emerge with their desire sated. When heroes make love, it tends to be caring and passionate, with both parties emerging satisfied. This difference can be cause for a Sex Face Turn for a dissatisfied villain.

Of course, this trope applies mainly for experienced adults. For most teenage characters, even and sometimes especially heroes, any on-screen mention of sex will end in awkwardness at best, tragedy at worst. See Their First Time.

Only laughingstock old guys ever need Viagra. In the days before such drugs existed, male impotence was generally perceived as a trait of villains. Impotence leads to insanity, which leads to evil actions, as with General Ripper in Dr. Strangelove or The Man with the Golden Gun.

In many settings, only characters of questionable morality have "weird" sexual preferences. For really old fashioned settings, this may even include gays and lesbians.

This excludes Very Special Episodes, pleading for tolerance, and series which intentionally include such preferences to be "edgy". Of course, in the latter, most characters have questionable morality anyway.

Note that this idea of "good sex" is sometimes only held by the sympathetic protagonist, who meets humorless people who consider sexual pleasure as depraved and define "good sex" (or "goodsex") by its absence.

Justified in that one of the primary traits associated with 'good people' is empathy.

This may occasionally be shown as one of rewards given to The Woobie at the end, if s/he manages to survive everything the universe throws at them.

See also Death by Sex and Sexual Karma. Compare Ethical Slut, Safe, Sane and Consensual and Sex Is Good. Contrast Sex Is Evil and Evil Is Sexy.

Related Character Tropes: The Vamp, Femme Fatale, Ethical Slut, The Casanova, Heroic Seductress


Examples:

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    Anime & Manga 
  • In Japanese media, it's not uncommon for a character to state that a boy's interest in girls marks him as a normal, healthy boy. Left for the audience is to figure out exactly what an abnormal, unhealthy boy would be, then.
    • A couple of times in the Visual Novel If My Heart Had Wings someone says this of the protagonist; tellingly, the second time is Aoi saying this of himself after he is Mistaken for Gay.
  • Played with in Ubel Blatt. Glenn was a Dirty Coward in the past and is a major antagonist, but he seems genuinely heroic after his resurerection and accordingly has (a lot of) sex that his partners greatly enjoy, but he remains The Stoic throughout it. Meanwhile, Lebellont rapes peasant women to conceive new children and invites his allies to do the same, but only after the loss of almost all of his children and a spiral into insanity caused by isolation, massive burn trauma and having to face his own villainy. Before that, he exhibited Villainous Valor
  • Subverted in Berserk. It takes Casca and Guts at least one try before they can make sweet, sweet love without one of them having a bad bout of temporary insanity caused by post-traumatic stress from childhood sexual abuse. Even then, their moment is the only instance of sex in the series so far that wasn't either Attempted Rape, near-rape, actual rape, demon rape, a pagan orgy, just plain sick, or done out of spite, money, lust, or pity.
  • Final Yamato was, until 2009, the last chapter of the Space Battleship Yamato saga. It concludes with the long-awaited wedding of the Official Couple, followed immediately (in the theatrical version) by a tearfully passionate, tender sex scene.
  • Subverted in Futari Ecchi. The main characters, both still virgins at the beginning, have to actually learn how to have good sex over time.
    • In one chapter, the protagonists Makoto and Yura during a trip to hot springs meet with a young couple that looks up to them regarding the development of love relationship. Makoto and Yura, of course, feel proud of this. But later, when Makoto and Yura accidentally find the young couple having sex in the hot springs bath, they almost get an inferiority complex when they find out how that young couple is so much better at sex than them.
  • Kare Kano spruced up its one and only sex scene by having flowers cover everything.
  • In Kaze to Ki no Uta, the rape scenes are gritty, shocking and clearly show the characters' pain. In contrast, anything with Serge and Gilbert tends to be loving, tender... and surrounded by a lot of flowers.
  • Arguably deconstructed in Kemonozume, where good guys Toshihiko and Yuka have extremely good sexual chemistry and would really like to get it on. The only problem is they can't, because Yuka keeps transforming into a huge flesh-eating monster when she's turned on.
  • The heroes in Mnemosyne spend their free time having sweaty lesbian encounters. The villains' preferred pastime involve ropes, sharp objectsnote , and innards.
  • In Monster, when Eva has flashbacks of Roberto, he is shown as an utterly repulsive pig slobbering all over her body. In contrast, Helenka and Schubert's loving sex scene is gentle and emotive.
  • Sensual Phrase has many sex scenes, and several of them are highly enjoyable for the people involved. Although Sakuya's goodness is rather questionable, he is great in bed, and he plays the trope straighter after he and Aine get married.
  • This is one of the major precepts in the work of Tanaka Yutaka, especially with regard to emotional honesty, open communication, and its ilk.
  • When Madoka and Kyōsuke finally sleep together in Shin Kimagure Orange Road, it's a mix of this and Their First Time, as well as very sweet and gentle despite Kyōsuke's initial doubts about how selfless he is or not. Madoka reassures him that it'll be okay and also wonders if her and Kyōsuke's kids would be esper like him, and after some more chat while naked, Kyōsuke pulls the covers off Madoka and they have sex..
  • Makie and Renzaburo in Wicked City. Their sexual encounter is extremely sweet, paused and slow, specially compared with all the rape and Fan Disservice that has been going on. Doubles as Glad-to-Be-Alive Sex as they both have barely survived an attack from the local demonic Dark Action Girl — who's the same woman that Renzaburou himself had sex with in the beginning.
    • The trope is even more enforced when you realize that theirs is the only sex scene that is fully pleasant and consensual - i.e., Renzaburou had been tricked into sexing up the Dark Action Girl since she was a Honey Trap, and Makie had been gangraped few ago.
  • Takao Itou and Sara Uchida have sex in the third Kasei Yakyoku OAV; it's an emotional, romantic, tender moment, with a beautiful song as background music. It contrasts with both of them having been sexually abused in the past: Taka was almost raped as a teenager by a beautiful older woman who then was killed in front of him by her husband, while Sara barely escaped from being gangraped by yakuza.
  • Daisuke from Resort Boin, who goes from being on a vacation to a tropical island to sight see women to end up having sexual escapdes with six gorgeous women by generally being the nice guy. He helps each of the girls out as thier main assistant for any agenda they have on the duration of his vacation, he ends up being a protective yet perverted badass with a heart of gold who kicks anyone's ass for * messing with them (ask Nao and Mika). Then he's rewarded with hot consensual love making that would make James Bond jealous.
  • Zigzagged all over the way in Sakura Gari. Souma Saiki is not only unearthly gorgeous but he is very good in bed and often gets pretty nice "action" from his sexual partners in return (with Watase offering us all kinds of details), but while not outright evil, the man has VERY serious issues. And said partners either have their own problems or get hit with misfortune because of Souma.
    • Not to mention, the very kind and softspoken Masataka never really gets "good sex" since he's sexually abused by both Souma and Katsuragi... until the end of the manga, where his and Souma's Intimate Psychotherapy session is very gentle and loving, and it comes as catharsis after a good part of their issues are resolved.

    Comics 
  • In Joss Whedon's last arc of Astonishing X-Men, before the X-Men make their final stand against the Breakworld, Colossus is overwhelmed by the position he finds himself in, as he is supposedly prophesied to destroy the Breakworld. While he and Kitty Pryde are granted shelter by a renegade "pacifist" Breakworlder, as they prepare for bed Kitty distracts Colossus from his emotional turmoil by standing before him completely naked. The next issue we see them in afterglow, and going by the conversion it was very good:
    Kitty: Whoof!
    Colossus: Katya, I...
    Kitty: Wait, not done with 'Whoof'. You are better than I imagined. And I've imagined.
  • Goddess saw villains, anti-heroes, and... pretty much everyone having a strange kink or three.
  • Empowered and Thugboy. It greatly helps building up her self-esteem.
  • Taken to extremes in the Preacher graphic novels. The main character, Jesse Custer, prefers having sex with his pretty, blonde girlfriend on the hood of a Cadillac — or in the driver's seat of a stolen hot-rod during a police pursuit. Meanwhile, virtually all of the villains are either sexual perverts to a ridiculous degree, gay, bisexual, or at least French. Or some combination thereof.
  • Spider-Man gets in on the act as well, but zig-zag it a bit in that Peter Parker and Mary Jane are shown to be quite kinky. Also, in another instance when peter is working with the Black Cat felicia makes the comment "I swear, if you weren't good in bed, you'd be useless" to which Peter says "I was good in bed?"
  • An example can be found in Superman, of all places. After Clark Kent and Lois Lane finally got together, it was made abundantly clearnote  that they can't stop having sex with each other.
  • Averted all over the place in Watchmen, though this is possibly due to the moral ambiguity of all the characters. Nevertheless:
    • The first costumed hero, Hooded Justice, is implied to be a) homosexual and b) an S&M enthusiast, though there is a subtle hint in the artwork of one issue that implies that he settled into a stable and loving relationship with another man later in life, thus playing this trope straight. More info can be found here.
    • The first female costumed adventurer, Silhouette, was a lycra-clad lesbian femdom with a horsewhip.
    • Of all the protagonists, Dan Dreiberg (or Nite Owl II) is the closest thing to a truly upstanding, moral idealist in the whole piece, and he has a costume fetish; the first time he and Laurie go at it, he can't get it up at all.
      • His self-esteem is also pretty low at that point. After he and Laurie have gone out and saved people from a burning building, he really feels able to enjoy himself (though he admits the costumes do add a thrill).
    • The first Silk Spectre has an affair with the man who savagely beat and tried to rape her, leading to an interesting discussion of the emotional implications of rape and its impact on Laurie's parentage, but that's neither here nor there.
    • Rorschach may actually be a straight example, as he doesn't have sex at all and has a firm Sex Is Evil stance (there's a hint he may be a repressed homosexual), and it's clear he isn't good people.
    • Likewise, Ozymandias doesn't see much personal need for a sexual relation and is more or less Asexual. He lacks the Sex Is Evil mindset, however.
    • Finally, Doctor Manhattan, the only superpowered being in the series uses his powers in the most "interesting" ways during intercourse in hopes of exciting Laurie. Not only does it end up squicking her out but he knew it was inevitable. Since he is mostly without emotion and is more concerned with the nature of science, it makes sense that his sex scene is both fascinating and lifeless.

    Fan Fiction 
  • Beyond the Dawn, a huge fic inspired by The Silmarillion, contains very tender and poetically depicted love scenes between Beren&Luthien. On the contrary, one of the prominent enemies, mighty orc Boldog, is a real motherfucker. Literally.
  • In Respawn Of The Dead (including the prequel), Heavy and Medic are depicted as having loving, mutually enjoyable sex (although Medic apparently likes to play with scalpels and shows up after an offscreen sex scene with the world's biggest hicky, not to mention the fact Their First Time is after they had way too much fun spychecking Soldier and Scout the hard way). But Soldier humps his shovel and gets off on beating up Medic. In the prequel, Spy has A Date with Rosie Palms in front of the mirror, disguised as the Engineer, which... just gets worse in the main fic.
  • In the Death Note Slash Fic A Cure for Love L notices an immediate change (for the worse) in their sex lives once Light becomes Kira again.
  • Cori Falls exploits this trope for all it's worth. Even Jessie and James's first time, which is supposed to be awkward, is so perfect they believe the fireworks from the Pokemon League were going off just for them!
  • The last few episodes of Children of Time contain a lot of sexual themes and situations... Sally Watson nee Sparrow conceives inside the TARDIS, giving birth to a baby with Time Lord DNA. Colonel Moran nearly rapes seventeen-year-old Beth Lestrade, and Professor Moriarty threatens to do the same much later on, when he has Beth Bound and Gagged. Special attention is paid to the Sherlock and Beth as they enjoy their brief honeymoon, with lovemaking scenes that are, on the whole, very affectionate and passionate (and add to the Character Development of their marriage).
  • Almost any mention of sex outside the main couple in Weightless is usually either rape (Shepard was lured into a statutory-rape situation with Ghost/ Kai Leng and later was flat-out raped by a rival gang when she was young), sex based mainly on lust (Garrus with all of his previous girlfriends), or to take advantages of something (Aria's favorite method to gain control and information). But all love-making scene of Garrus and Shepard are always written in an incredible loving way to show their love and passion for each other whether they are playing rough or gentle.
  • Rarity and the protagonist have a very healthy sex life in Sophistication And Betrayal, particularly when compared to Cashmere. It is averted on some occasions though, such as the time where he almost takes his eye out on her horn, which ruins the moment somewhat.
  • Used throughout Sailor Mac's Sailor Moon fanfiction, even discussed at certain points (Darien explaining to Serena that hardcore porn catalogs were for people who needed cheap thrills, whereas their sex was better in his eyes because it was driven by pure love). She finally kicked the naughty meter up a notch in the "Hot Controversy" series, in which certain kinks are discussed, introduced and experimented with.
  • The Necromancers Of China Saga's side plot involving Po and Tigress' growing relationship humorously deconstructs this. Due to having no experience, their first time is sloppy, quick, and disappointing. It then reconstructs it by them getting just a little better each time. Even a year later, they're still sloppy, but they admit it's much better than when they started.
  • Implied to be the case with Bright Eyes and Lancer in the Pony POV Series. While details aren't clear, after Bright Eyes loses her memory and they end up having sex for the first time (which, ironically, triggers some of her memories to return), she implies this trope is in play.
  • This is played with in Dirty Sympathy while villains like Daryan and Kristoph get off rough sex and rape and protagonists Klavier and Apollo have gentle, awesome vanilla sex, but the time the latter two have sex with each other they really can't considered ''good'' people.
  • While in Child Of The Storm it isn't exactly detailed what kind of sex Jane and Thor have, with the narration hinting rather than stating, but it seems to be pretty vanilla and both parties seem to enjoy it. A lot. Regularly. To Harry's disgust.
    • Tony and Pepper on the other hand, are apparently quite kinky, zig zagging this trope, with Tony, in his internal monologue noting that Pepper is capable of far dirtier things than one would expect from her.
  • Rosario Vampire: Brightest Darkness Act II: In chapter 32, when Kurumu, Moka, and Mizore consummate their relationships with their respective beaus, they all describe the experience as such. Mizore particularly stands out, as she remarks that having sex with Dark was such a powerful experience that she actually passed out from the pleasure more than once.

    Film - Animated 
  • When Syndrome learns Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl got married and have children, he flat-out calls them on this. Made even more incredible that this is a Disney film.
    Syndrome: Elastigirl?! You married Elastigirl?
    *Syndrome sees the children*
    Syndrome: And got busy!
    • Even before then, it's not very subtly implied that Bob and Helen have a very healthy sex life. This is especially apparent in the Good Times Montage.

    Film - Live Action 
  • Merrily subverted in every incarnation of The Addams Family, where Weird People Have Weird Sex — and also, very obviously, a terrific time. In fact, Gomez was the only husband in black & white Televisionland who actually lusted after his own wife. He more than made up for the rest of them, too.
  • In The Departed, Matt Damon's villain character has at least one bout with erectile dysfunction (tellingly right after he's gotten engaged, betraying his deep-seated trust issues.) The hero, Leonardo DiCaprio, is a lovin' machine.
  • In Robert Rodriguez's Desperado, we have an extended, passionate love scene between the main protagonists. Cut to the villain Bucho lying on his bed, smoking a cigar and looking bored while a prostitute bounces up and down on him. Then she kisses him and he blows smoke into her mouth, sending her into a coughing fit.
  • The contrast between Georgiana's first time having sex with her husband in The Duchess and her first time having sex with her lover, especially since Minister Gray, despite not looking all that athletic, actually turns out to be quite muscled.
  • Melanie and Jared in the film adaptation of The Host.
  • Played completely straight in Nora Ephron's Julie And Julia. Both of the protagonists are in loving relationships and apparently have lots of good sex.
  • In Magicians, one of the characters is tormented by his manipulative gay agent who repeatedly mentions his erectile dysfunction in order to prevent him from forming any other relationships. When he finally gets in bed with a woman, his erectile dysfunction is cured.
  • Used in Nanny McPhee. Mr. Brown obviously loved his deceased wife very much and it is kind of apparent, what with the seven children they had. As Ms Quickly noted, "I know what [Mr. Brown] wants with me and it's not marriage, no wonder there's so many of [them]".
  • In Revenge of the Nerds, the nerdy Lewis wins the heart of Betty by disguising himself as her boyfriend and giving her good sex. When he reveals the truth, she asks how he got so good at it, and he responds, "All jocks ever think about is sports; all nerds ever think about is sex." Compare to her boyfriend Stan, who is shown at several points in the movie having trouble getting it up.
  • Seducing Dr.Lewis has all the villagers having awesome sex when fishing was still strong and plentiful. After they finally manage to get their factory in the village, they finally have good sex once again.
  • Averted in Shortbus. Most of the characters struggle with their sex lives but retain their sympathy to the audience.
  • In Spartacus the titular hero is straight and monogamous (claims of Ho Yay notwithstanding), the corrupt but essentially sympathetic Gracchus is a womanizer and the outright evil Crassus is a Depraved Bisexual.
  • Subverted in Team America: World Police, when the hero finally gets the girl, the puppet-on-puppet sex is Nausea Fuel. He gets her by outright lying to her. Then again, she wanted him to lie to her, or just didn't understand that no one lives forever.
  • The secret agents of The Legion to Ensure Total Harmony and Law (L.E.T.H.A.L) in the Andy Sidaris films Malibu Express, Hard Ticket to Hawaii, Picasso Trigger, Savage Beach, Guns, Do or Die, Hard Hunted, Fit to Kill, Day of the Warrior and L.E.T.H.A.L Ladies: Return to Savage Beach
  • Partially averted in Captain Kronos Vampire Hunter. The title character effortlessly hooks up with a beautiful and willing woman, who enjoys sex with him — but then (with a freshly bleeding lip) asks him why he's so rough with her (he gives a Freudian Excuse about his having been "kissed" by vampires).
  • Shame: The protagonist Brandon is a sex addict, masturbating and browsing porn in the time in the time in between screwing random women, and sometimes even during said screwing. But when he's finally able to have sex with someone he actually has an emotional connection with, he can't get it up. Commitment is a turnoff to him, so he remains trapped in his shallow lifestyle.
  • In Highlander III: The Sorcerer, Connor MacLeod has very passionate and romantic sex scenes with his past and present love interests. The villain Kane visits a hooker in a seedy inner city neighborhood whom he proceeds to physically abuse.
  • In the action movie Showdown in Little Tokyo, the Cowboy Cop hero Kenner (Dolph Lundgren) is a muscular sexual dynamo whose penis size is literally complimented by his detective partner. The Big Bad Yoshida is a misogynistic rapist who is implied to not be able to get it up unless he physically beats women.
  • Played for drama in American Me. The Villain Protagonist, the historical Mexican prison gang leader Montoya Santana (played by Edward James Olmos), is released from prison for the first time in years. He meets a beautiful woman whom he quickly falls in love with. When they make love for the first time, he can't reciprocate except by violently forcing himself on her. All the years that he's had to perform Prison Rape to survive in prison have given him a rather warped perspective on sexuality.

    Literature 
  • Eric Flint, more then once in both the 1632 and Belisarius Series. He seems unusual (though not unique) in making tender and aesthetically pleasing sex scenes that do seem to fit well with the plot. Too often such things are a Lowest Common Denominator passage.
  • Scheherazade in the Arabian Nights. While the Sultan wasn't a good person (indeed he recognizably acted like a stereotypical serial killer), Sheherazade was a noble and heroic woman as well as being skillful.
  • Atlas Shrugged, being an Author Tract written by Ayn Rand, treats this as a Writer on Board issue: Strawman Socialists can't help but believe that Sex Is Evil; Rearden has the misfortune to be married to one of them, so Dagny justifies the consummation of her affair with him by her having experienced a guiltless pleasure greater than anything they could tolerate.
    • Which raises the question I have always had - was John Galt a virgin? He had not yet met his "perfect woman" ultra-capitalist Dagny Taggart, so did he ever have sex? It would have been with a lesser woman, just to do it, so did he do it?
  • Shows up somewhat unexpectedly in Betty Smith's A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (perhaps not so unexpectedly considering the sympathetic treatment of Good Bad Girl Sissy). One chapter introduces an unmarried mother who proudly walks down the street with her baby carriage. The "good housewives" who shriek and throw stones at her are said also to have Bad Sex:
    There was no longer high joy for them in the act of love. They endured the love-making rigidly, praying all the while that another child would not result. This bitter submissiveness made the man ugly and brutal. To most of them, the love act had become a brutality on both sides; the sooner over with, the better. They resented this girl because they felt this had not been so with her and the father of her child.
  • The Dystopia in Brave New World has casual promiscuity that removes all intimacy from sex.
  • Discussed in Meyer's Breaking Dawn. Despite being a good person, Edward's rock-hard body, super speed/strength, and vampire instincts cause him to accidentally bruise the still-human Bella on their honeymoon (while biting a few pillows). Bella apparently likes it rough, but Edward feels that not being gentle in bed makes him a bad person, tying into his issues with his own violence and his massive self-hatred complex, and refuses to have sex with her again, no matter how much she begs. When she finally convinces him to give it another try, he doesn't give her any more bruises, though he does break the headboard of the bed. Of course, when she is eventually turned, the bruising no longer becomes a problem. The other Cullens also apparently have extremely violent, house-breaking sex, but they seem to like it.
  • The "Bad People Have Bad Sex" aspect of this trope is spoofed in the fictitious play "The Courier's Tragedy" in Thomas Pynchon's The Crying of Lot 49. In the play, all the villains are incestuous perverts. At no point in the novel does anybody have good sex, but they all appear to enjoy what they have. The Handsome Lech is compared, within the text, to Humbert Humbert.
  • Michael and Charity from The Dresden Files. They have seven children (partly because they're devoutly Catholic; the only reason there were no more is the result of what Fake!Harry did to Charity while she was heavily pregnant with number 7) and in "It's My Birthday, Too" we find out that every Valentine's Day their kids have to barricade themselves in their rooms from the noise.
  • Similarly in Butcher's other series, Codex Alera, Tavi and Kitai have plenty of it whenever they have a spare moment. It doesn't help that Kitai sometimes has a one track mind...
  • In Dora Wilk Series, after main character and Miron resolve their Will They or Won't They? (They Do), they have sex very often, and it's described as good practically always. After Miron comes back after his absence in book four, this is true as well.
  • In John Shirley's Eclipse series, this is very much so — he at one point has a juxtaposition of good and bad characters' sex scenes to make the point. Of course, the whole series is left-wing political porn seemingly designed to boost spirits (at least) during the Reagan Darkness.
  • Subverted in The Guardians; when the angel-human hybrids are adjusting to their new powers and senses, they're encouraged to get it all out of their system. One novice spent 30 years having orgies before he finally grew bored of it. Even mature Guardians aren't above a little Power Perversion Potential.
  • The Happily Married and loving Arthur and Molly Weasley. As Draco Malfoy points out to Ron in the first book, they have more kids than they could afford.
    • Harry and Ginny as well as Hermione and Ron have quite a few children by the epilogue of Deathly Hallows. While they don't have as many as Arthur and Molly, the oldest Potter child is at least twelve which, since the epilogue occurs nineteen years after the events of the last book, meant that Harry and Ginny at least got down to business pretty quickly. Ron and Hermione's oldest daughter seems to be eleven, so they weren't too far behind. Draco on the other hand, has only one child and the entire family seems rather muted.
    • Word of God says Charlie Weasley never got married because he was not interested, so this might be a subversion.
  • This was very common in the James Bond novels, where Bond himself is of course a Chivalrous Pervert, and many of the villains were depicted as perverted, psycho homosexuals, or impotent. One of the few cases where Ian Fleming's pop psychology was close to Truth in Television is depicting the Psycho for Hire Red Grant in From Russia with Love as a homicidal maniac incapable of any kind of arousal except for arguably that he gets from killing. There is some link between sociopathy and lack of sex drive which is explicitly part of some characters and would certainly explain others.
  • Used constantly in early Dean Koontz books. The heroes always have amazing sex (written about at length), while the villains are usually repulsed by sex or (their own!) genitalia.
  • Both played straight and averted in the Kushiel's Avatar and Kushiel's Legacy trilogies. One of the major ideas of the series — which features an entire nation whose "hat" is kinky sex — is that the real difference between "good" and "bad" sex isn't kinkiness (the heroine is a sadomasochist) but rather consent. The good characters care about it. The evil characters don't.
  • Richard Littlejohn's Hell in a Handcart: the villains have violent BDSM sex, Les Collaborateurs all masturbate with police truncheons or busts of Karl Marx or copies of the Evening Standard (and are all universally gay), the Sidekick has sex, but with a woman he's not fond of, and the protagonist... doesn't have sex at all but just receives random blowjobs from his wife (who has to make do otherwise with vibrators).
  • Elea and Paikan, the very Happily Married couple in Rene Barjavel's The Ice People. Twice. And the second time is an awful Tear Jerker because all the scenes with them together are flashbacks which Elea is letting us see eight hundred thousand years later.
  • The In Death series: Big time. Witness in Death reveals that Richard Draco used rape drugs on a lot of women, filmed the sex acts without the women's knowledge or consent, and when Areena Mansfield had sex with him shortly before his death, all she could express was disgust and disinterest.
  • Mercedes Lackey: Good People Have Good Sex, and bad people have bad, bad sex — "bad" being defined, in Lackey's lexicon, as "anything involving even the suggestion of physical restraint, control, power, or trust". Anyone in a Lackey book who expresses even the faintest hint of interest in consensually tying someone to a bed will inevitably end up torture-slaughtering children for sexual thrills — in gratuitously, lasciviously graphic detail.
  • Night Watch usually subverts or averts its Morality Tropes, but not this one. Alisa has the best sex of her life with a Light Other, described in very un-kinky fashion. Her Dark Other lover was only willing to engage in sadomasochistic play, and judging by what little was described of it, magic was the only thing that kept it in the "safe" part of Safe, Sane and Consensual.
  • The Dystopia of 1984 has the Party's aim of eliminating all sexual pleasure and eventually make sexual intercourse itself obsolete even for procreation... so that all that sexual repression and frustration can be channeled into hatred for Eurasia/Eastasia.
  • In the Outlander series, Jamie and Claire have really good sex. In contrast, evil Depraved Bisexual Captain John Randall is incapable of getting hard unless he's beating or torturing the person he's raping. And even then, it's shown that unless the victim is Jamie, he still might not get hard.
  • Paradise Lost: Milton delivers a Take That to the Moral Guardians of his time by including sex (a lot of sex, according to Eve) in Adam's and Eve's perfect life in Eden.
  • Played straight, averted, and subverted throughout in the Star Wars Expanded Universe:
    • First, Luke and Mara regularly use double entendres around each other, but some of these have an S&M subtext, e.g. "I hope he doesn't mean the same thing as when I call you master," subverting it.
      • Luke also had a one-night stand with Akanah in the Black Fleet books. In typical Luke style, he was emotionally attached to her, and then learned everything she told him was a lie.
    • Played straight in the Jedi Academy Trilogy, where Admiral Daala has homophobic thoughts.
    • Played straight and averted in The Courtship of Princess Leia, with a (good) race of amazons that enslave men and a (bad) queen who tries to seduce and kill Luke, and her (good) son imagines the two of them having sex.
    • Averted in The Joiner King, with Zekk fantasizing about sex with Jaina, Alema Rar, and Jag.
    • Played straight in Invincible by having Tahiri molest Ben. Eventually he inspires her to perform a High Heel-Face Turn.
    • Corran Horn, depending on the book, averts it (his sexual history includes a Selonian) and plays it straight (having sex with Mirax every time they see each other, and having plenty of history with human women).
    • Leonia Tavira, the main antagonist of I, Jedi, plays it straight, having sex with her underlings as a reward.
    • Oddly, the Jedi of the Old Republic avert the trope by having as much sex as they want, so long as there's no emotional attachment.
    • To finally ensure it's played straight, Luke and Leia never ever mention the former's previous crush on the latter.
    • The Yuuzhan Vong, of course. An entire species of sadomasochists.
    • Karen Traviss's Mandalorians don't give a toss about homosexuality.
  • Played straight in the Tom Clancy novel The Sum of All Fears. Jack's wife, Cathy, spends much of the first two-thirds of the novel sexually frustrated and unhappy, as Jack's increased drinking and continual work difficulties thanks to the US presidential administration of the time cut into his sex drive. She eventually comes to think he is having an affair behind her back. However, once the whole mess is cleaned up, they have a long, long romp that seems to revitalize Jack something fierce
  • Guy Gavriel Kay's Tigana is more a case of Free People Have Good Sex: while Tigana is in the grip of two foreign tyrants, the only forms of sex depicted are prostitution, rape, incest, BDSM or sex under false pretenses. Not until the Tiganans prepare to rise up against their dictators is "healthy" sex depicted.
  • Harry Turtledove's Alternate History body of work is large enough that Turtledove's feelings about sex are now absolutely clear: the only acceptable sex is between a husband and wife (and thanks to his inability to write a good sex scene, the feeling comes across that even that isn't acceptable).
  • Wicked Lovely: None of the fey courts are exactly good, but their relative levels of sexual Hollywood-ness does depend on their nature somewhat. Summer fey are shown to be very passionate but mostly vanilla. Winter fey are largely frigid. Dark fey are very kinky, and whilst this is generally shown as seductive, if destructive, but some of the back story takes this way too far. High court fey are shown to not really be that into sex (it's so illogical!) With the exceptions of Sorcha, who it is mentioned was once with Irial, former king of the dark court, and they, umm, 'did business' with one another against a willow tree.
  • Sisterhood Series by Fern Michaels: Most certainly played straight with Jack and Nikki, Myra and Charles, and Yoko and Harry. In the book Fast Track, Rena Gold has had sex with Maxwell Zenowicz, and she frankly is disgusted and tired of it by that point.
  • In Poul Anderson's "A World Called Maanerek", among the healthy planet-dwellers, the young men and women often venture to the aves; Torrek wrestles with his brief attack of Green-Eyed Monster, because Sonna is a free woman. The Hegemony, on the other hand, feeds its units Antisex and allows spouses to meet only to breed (which children are immediately taken to creches) — and allow, as "tension release", to let loose all the men on shipboard on a part of a planet, to release aggression on the men and children, and having stopped Antisex, made the local woman freely available.
  • Song at Dawn: Dragonetz and Estela are blissfully in love and they have transcendentally good sex. The former is emphasized over anything physical and their foreplay was dicussing music.
  • In Redeeming Love, this is subverted. The novel makes it clear that prostitutes’ experience of sex is not fulfilling either physically or emotionally, no matter their personality or motives. Also, even after they begin to establish a stable relationship, it takes a long time for the married hero and heroine, Michael and Angel, to make love with results that they both consider “good”.
  • Implied in Snuff with Vimes and Sybil, after the better part of a decade of marriage.
  • Subverted in Bentley Little's University (a.k.a. The Night School): The two student protagonists are among the "good" minority on the titular campus. However, whenever they make love, the evil force suddenly takes them over and they have rough, dirty sex that leaves them very sore and often bleeding. Even at the end, after the campus is destroyed, they're still "infected" and continue to enjoy a kinky BDSM-style sex life.
  • In the Kate Shugak novels by Dana Stabenow, Kate's healthy (and satisfying) sex life is always lovingly described, with her enthusiasm occasionally veering into Casual Kink territory.

    Live-Action TV 
  • In 24, Jack and Renee spend nearly forty minutes having sex, which she describes as perfect. Charles Logan meanwhile apparently finishes in about 2 minutes. Similarly when Vladimir Laitanan (who previously beat and raped Renee) blackmails her into sleeping with him, they are done in 9 minutes.
    • Unfortunately for Renee, Just because Good People Have Good Sex doesn't mean there isn't Death by Sex
    • Possibly subverted as Jack himself is not that good a person after all.]
  • Sheridan and Delenn's wedding night would have been this in Babylon 5. Unfortunately G'kar's cybernetic peeping tom gave this an annoying bit of Mood Dissonance.
  • No-one in The Bill engages in "rough sex". If anyone says that, it's a rape or domestic abuse situation.
  • Inverted in Breaking Bad, where Walt's unexpected transformation into a criminal has nothing but positive effects on his sex life with his wife. Apparently Morally Ambiguous People Have Good Sex too...
  • In earlier seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the amoral mass-murdering vampires Spike and Dru have a happy, long-term relationship. It's so blatantly loving it would be sickeningly sweet if they weren't constantly killing people. Meanwhile, the good guys are entangled in a mess of love polygons and generally incapable of expressing attraction or communicating with their partner once in a relationship.
    • When Buffy's morally ambiguous counterpart, Faith, takes over her body, she attempts to get kinky with Buffy's boyfriend, Riley. To her initial disappointment he insists on missionary position, under the covers. She found the intimacy of it to be... distressing.
    • Contrast the rough and kinky sex between Buffy and a soulless Spike in Season 6, versus their tender bedroom interaction the following season after Spike gets his soul.
  • Played with very slightly in Castle, in which it's hinted that both Castle and Beckett have mildly kinky bedroom tastes. When they finally end up hooking up in Season 5, it is suggested that they have a very active and satisfying sex life.
  • Cheers, as Sam and Diane know so well. They've even been known to discuss it with each other!
  • Averted in Criminal Minds, where one episode has a man's wife ask "what's gotten into you tonight?" in a voice clearly implying that they just had very good sex. What had got into him is that earlier that day, he shot someone. Of course, maybe that sex was in his head, as he turns out to be a hallucinating psychotic.
  • Subverted in Ed. After seasons of Will They or Won't They?, Ed and Carol finally get together. They jump into bed with the right slow-motion effects and stirring music. But the next shot shows two, very disappointed individuals.
  • Wash and Zoe of Firefly seem to have a pretty good sex life going. It might be a partial subversion however, since they don't mind getting a little wild. Same for Simon and Kaylee, who are quite happy to do it by the ship's engine.
    • Played painfully straight in "Heart of Gold". Mal and Nandi's sweaty, wrapped in sheets lovemaking is juxtaposed to the episode's bad guy ordering a prostitute to blow him in front of his henchmen.
    • A companion won't even service anyone they consider bad. Inara once tells a sweet young man that he should feel confident and special. If she had been hired for his Jerk Ass father, she wouldn't have even come.
  • Friends: It was because their sex was so good that Monica and Chandler, two of the nicest most loyal characters on the show, upgraded from a one night stand to Friends with Benefits and then to a serious relationship. They risked a valuable friendship but the sex was just. that. good.
    • So good that they considered doing it in the room next to her brother!
      • It's also emphasied that sex with each other was better than with previous partners. (Which had been reasonable to bad). They both describe each other as the best they've ever had, with the implication its because they're better people with each other.
      • They even went so far as to say that Chandler is better than Richard!
  • Game of Thrones: Despite the sheer amount of sex in general, and the sheer lack of any clear-cut "Good" and "Evil" characters, there is an observable pattern. Characters in stable, loving relationships have sex facing each other. Characters who are not just mount their partners from behind.
  • Marshall and Lily from How I Met Your Mother have an awesome sex life and they're wonderful people. Amusingly, the show deliberately subverts the traditional All Women Are Prudes / All Men Are Perverts dynamics; Marshall's a horny son of a gun, but Lily's usually the one pushing for sex. When they went three weeks without sex, Lily developed the shakes.
  • When Chuck and Sarah finally get together, we don't see what's going on in their train compartment — but the montage of room-service dishes tells us that they stay in there and don't come out for days.
  • Avoided to a degree in Jack-of-All-Trades episode, "X Marquis the Spot", where the people on Agony Island (most notably Hans and Helga) are depicted as shunned by society for their love of bondage, but not wrong or evil. The Marquis is evil, but that has more to do with him being French than being a sadomasochist. At the end of the episode, Emilia mentions that although S&M isn't for everyone, there's nothing inherently evil about it. Jack is too creeped out to agree.
  • Malcolm in the Middle: Lois and Hal are very sexually active. Very active.
    Malik: Only twice per week?
    Hal: Oh, per week... Fourteen.
    • Hal's actor once noted that Hal is always trying to seduce Lois, because "he just loves making love to that woman."
  • Averted in Pushing Daisies, where the two leads are unable to touch without one of them dying, but have a fulfilling monogamous relationship anyway. It's mentioned at one point that Ned, the male lead, has invented "contraptions" to enable them to have some sort of sex life, so their choices are essentially between "no sex" and "extremely kinky sex", and it appears that at least some of the time, they go for the latter option.
  • The Viagra example is played with in an episode of Scrubs. Elliot assumes the above about it and then, while in the cafeteria, Dr. Cox sets her straight by having everyone in the room close their eyes, then asks anyone who's ever used Viagra for recreational purposes to chime their glass. The room is filled with ringing.
    • Dr. Cox and Jordan's sex life is interesting. They're both usually not very nice people, and they look at their own relationship with a lot of scorn. They have both stated that they absolutely do not "make love" and Jordan even uses it as a threat to Perry once.
    Jordan: If you don't, I'm going to stop having sex with you and start making love.
  • The Secret Life of the American Teenager. Played straight with Amy and Ricky — the insensitive, school man-whore/male slut — have terrible sex when he impregnates her at band camp, but subverted in other cases. Ben and Adrian appear to have enjoyed their romp (or at least she did), and they did it solely for revenge purposes. Not to mention Ricky and Adrian, the school sluts, have a fine old time together. Sex is the show, so this trope is either played straight or subverted all the time.
  • Used throughout 7th Heaven.
  • Skins constitutes a rare example of this in teen dramas. Sex is never depicted as an intrinsically negative experience; in fact, it's great when it's with the right person. If it's ever bad, it's because you're not where you should be. (See Sid's quote about having "great sex for three days and guilty sex for the rest.") Although sometimes, bad people have good sex, too.
  • In Supernatural, when Dean Winchester apparently has sex with his women of the week, it tends to be slow-moving and passionate. His former love interest Lisa Braeden states that he was the best night of her life. When Sam has sex (particularly when under the influence of demon blood) it tends to be a lot more aggressive and well... falls into the "fuck" category.
  • Played straight in Veronica Mars, of all places. Veronica and Logan have a happy, healthy sex life, whereas in the season two finale it is hinted that Beaver couldn't get it up with Mac, right before the revelation that he is the Big Bad serial killer of the season, who murdered an entire Bus Full of Innocents. Made even worse when you look at the back story: earlier in the show, Beaver once raped Veronica when she was lying unconscious, implying that he's a complete sexual pervert. Also, he had Chlamydia, which he passed on to Veronica.
  • In the Masters Of Horror episode "Jenifer", the first indication that Frank is becoming obsessed with Jenifer is when he can't stop fantasizing about her while having a bout of rough sex with his wife, which she clearly isn't enjoying.
  • In the opinion of Marine Person from Generation Kill good sex makes people good, the global instability and the Iraq war boils down to people having a poor sex life. Click to enlarge 
  • This trope couldn't be played more straight than in the mini-series adaptation of Labyrinth. When Guilhem has sex with his sweet-natured wife Alais, it's slow, loving and missionary style. When he commits adultery with Alais's bitchy sister Oriane, it's loud, rough and doggie style (and neither of them seem to be enjoying it much).
  • In an episode of The Golden Girls, Rose revealed that her late husband Charlie had died while they were making love. In a later episode, she revealed that for most of their married life she and Charlie would make love at least twice a day; once every night and once every morning. When Blanche learned this, her reaction was, "No wonder you still mourn that man!"
  • Theresa and Jerry of Wizards of Waverly Place, although they're only good about half the time.
  • Jeff in Community is a charming but self-centred and emotionally-closed off Jerkass who is very good at using his charms to seduce women but, if Britta (the only member of the study group to have actually slept with him) is to be believed, is not actually very good in bed.
  • A lot of the characters in Bones are pretty darn sexual, even devoutly Catholic Booth.
    Cam: Um... a lot of these guys look pretty rough.
    Daisy: I like it rough, but only when there's a safe word.

     Music 
  • This is the point of the Lily Allen song "Not Fair," which is about dating an otherwise amazing guy who's just awful in bed. Allen indicates throughout the song that this does matter, and that it speaks quite poorly of the boyfriend that he doesn't put in the effort to please her.

     Religion 
  • Perhaps the ur-example, The Bible's Song of Songs uses a collection of love poetry exchanged between a married couple (by some traditions, Solomon and one of his wives), who are not shy about saying exactly what they love about each other, as a metaphor for the loving relationship between God and his followers.

    Videogames 
  • In Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Catalina, by far one of the craziest characters of the game, turns out to be into S&M during the cut scene for the "Gone Courting" mission. We don't see anything of the act itself, but she proceeds to chain C.J. to a rack and then takes a whip to him before getting down to business.
  • In Mass Effect 2, there are two points at which a male Shepard can have sex with the criminal Jack. The Renegade sex option is based solely on sex and rather violent; afterward, Jack doesn't want to talk, not wanting to play and any further progression is cut off. The Paragon sex option is based on your interest in Jack as a person and is not only intimate and gentle but therapeutic for Jack.
  • In Metal Gear Solid 3, Volgin is a Depraved Bisexual S&M enthusiast that loves using electric torture. Let's just say that EVA's experience sleeping with him wasn't very pleasant for her. Now, Big Boss on the other hand, was a gentle, good experience for her.
  • In the fan-produced A Dance with Rogues Neverwinter Nights module series, the character Vico is a psychotic axe-crazy blackguard. Unless your character insists, he will try to have anal sex with you at every opportunity. Anden and Bran, both good characters, tend to prefer missionary or reverse missionary. Curiously, Rizzen (the drow) has no major differences from Bran's style.
    • In the fan-produced The Bastard Of Kosigan module series, most sexual encounters are treated as amoral or downright evil (it was specifically not written for paladins); so far every one except for the prostitute in Cologne or the 'good' option with Yannia has been rather unconventional (usually involving a tree, a wall, or a table).
  • No More Heroes: Travis Touchdown locks himself in with Sylvia, and all we hear is shotgun blasts coming from inside.
    • This despite the fact that both are very morally grey, Sylvia moreso than Travis.
  • In Persona 3 and Persona 4 of Shin Megami Tensei fame, you (as the MC) are given the opportunity to sleep with almost any of the girls' whose S-Links you've completed. The scenes are not given explicit detail, since this ain't an eroge, but it's heavily implied that both Main Characters are very loving and gentle.
    • It's also not even directly stated that you even have sex. The game's shorthand is "Christmas Eve continues..." You wouldn't realize they had sex if you're not paying really close attention to the lead-up (such as Chie mentioning that she lied to her parents and said she'd be spending the night at Yukiko's place, or Yukiko lying about staying at Chie's place, or Ai saying she'd rather spend Christmas Eve "next to you" instead of going home).

    Visual Novels 
  • Dengeki Stryker has sex scenes written this way.
  • Played with in Fate/stay night, in that it's not so much the moral uprightness of the characters that results in good sex, but rather their motivation for having sex in the first place. When the characters have sex for some reason other than its own sake, at least one of the participants doesn't enjoy it.
  • Inverted near the end of Shizune's route in Katawa Shoujo. You-as-Hisao get a scene where you can choose to cheat on her with her best friend Misha. If you do cheat: 1) the sex is really uncomfortable and 2) it leads to her Bad Ending. And if you refuse, it's played straight: you're "rewarded" with one of the most explicit and pleasant-to-go-through sex scenes of the whole game, in which Shizune shows off both her sexy underwear (plus keeping her thigh high socks) and her kinky and sex-topping side.
  • The vast majority of the sex scenes in Princess Waltz are like this. In fact, there's exactly one sex scene that isn't like this: the first sex scene between Arata and Chris, which is technically both of them raping each other because a nasty magical side effect skyrocketed their sex drives out of control.
  • Believe it or not, School Days, sometimes. It depends on whether the player himself is making good choices or not. If he is, Makoto and his girlfriend have very loving and mutually pleasurable sex, such as the sex scene with Sekai at the end of Episode 3, or the sex scene with Kotonoha at the end of Episode 4. If the player-as-Makoto is acting like a jerk, some of the sex scenes can come off awkward and uncomfortable (for example, on one path Kotonoha mistakenly thinks Makoto will be faithful to her if she repeatedly offers sex to him, so she gives him a handjob on a train and repeatedly comes to his home just to have sex with him. If you don't refuse her the last time she goes for a blowjob, you're punished for your part in her delusion with the Kotonoha-commits-suicide bad ending).
  • Sekien No Inganock gives us a lovely sex scene with Ati and Gii, which comes late in the game but is expected given that Ati and Gii are close enough for Kia to mistake Ati as Gii's "wife." The real surprise is that the sex scene between Ruaha and Kerkan can also come off this way, depending on the player's interpretation and given what you later learn about Kerkan's true motives.
  • Inverted by Shiki Tohno from Tsukihime during Arcueid, Ciel, and Akiha's routes, him being far too rough in one, pressuring the second into anal sex despite the girl being unconvinced, and acting as kind of a Jerk Ass to the last one. The other routes play the trope straighter, typically characterized by "initial round of sex for a specific purpose, second round for love"; meaning, ironically, Shiki only plays the trope straight by way of Deus Sex Machina. And even in Hisui's route, where his sexual behavior is more loving, he's a bit too fond of teasing her about her embarrassment at how good it feels. The route where Shiki comes off as the best person having the best sex is Kohaku's, and that's because he has a negative example of someone else's "asshole behavior" in bed to learn from: He discovers that Makihisa repeatedly raped Kohaku when Kohaku was a child, due to her powers as a Synchronizer; so after Shiki realizes that the first time Kohaku has sex with him Kohaku didn't actually feel anything, Shiki goes out of his way to make sex as wonderful for Kohaku as possible to show her what sex is like when it's coming from someone who loves her, as opposed to coming from Extremely-Painful-Rapist-Thrusting-Into-Way-Too-Small-Little-Kid-Makihisa.
    • This has given Shiki the Fan Nickname as the "Lord of Bedroom Jackassery".
  • In Utawarerumono, the sex scenes with Eruru, Urutorii, Yuzuha are like this, because they're the only three sex scenes in the game that don't somehow consist of forcing themselves on Hakuoro (Kamyu goes into vampire mode and uses a spell to paralyze Hakuoro in place, Karura drugs Hakuoro into being aroused, and Touka forces herself on Hakuoro due to prank advice from Karura). Eruru's is an arguable example; they were both mutually drunk which is partially what put the idea of sex into their heads, but they're very loving and gentle during sex in spite of being drunk, so it counts. Urutorii's sex scene happens because Hakuoro is comforting her after she had to give up a baby to its real family, so Hakuoro is very gentle about it. And finally, Oboro, drunk out of his mind so he doesn't really understand what he's asking, begs Hakuoro to fulfill whatever Yuzuha requests. Turns out Yuzuha requests having sex so Hakuoro's baby can be proof of her existence. Hakuoro is a perfect gentleman during the scene.

    Webcomics 

    Web Original 

  • Played with in Ilivais X. Mille certainly isn't a bad person, as she represents the idealistic and heroic attitude a Super Robot Genre protagonist SHOULD possess. But she's also shown to be incredibly lustful and dominant, having her way with others solely to satisfy her needs. As such sleeping with Essen, an undoubtedly Neutral Good character, came across as awkward and made any kind of friendship strained from that point. But her more loaded interactions with the far more morally ambiguous Iriana are strangely romantic and tender, even if they're loaded with that undertone that Iriana feels too weak to be able to say no.

    Western Animation 
  • Used in Justice League's episode "The Great Brain Robbery." The quality of the sex is (heavily implied to be) one of the things that tips Tala off to Lex Luthor not being himself.
    Tala: Baby, you were so... different. So attentive. So caring. So... enthusiastic.
    Flash (in Lex's body): Uh...
    Tala: I like it! (resting her head on his shoulder happily)
    • When Lex is restored to his own body, Tala simply responds with a dejected "Aww."
  • For all of Homer's idiocy and his general Jerk Ass tendencies, he sexes up Marge but good. It's one of the little ways the show has of showing the strength of the connection between Marge and Homer.
  • Bob and Pickles of The Oblongs. It's what keeps their marriage together, and it helps Milo sleep.


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