History Literature / CountAndCountess

26th Oct '16 8:12:04 AM dlchen145
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* {{Badass}} / HiddenBadass / ActionGirl / ActionMom / WaifFu: Subverted. Elizabeth does kill a couple of people who have it coming, specifically [[spoiler:her husband and her rapist]], but she never actually ''fights'' anyone, [[spoiler:preferring to get the drop on them with a hidden weapon]], and the majority of who she kills are innocents.
25th May '16 6:57:40 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* HannibalHasAPoint: Sultan Mehmed. He may be the antagonist, and he and his men are responsible for some great cruelty, but Vlad proves to be capable of greater evils, and the points he makes on religion would be fair from a modern perspective.
16th Aug '14 11:32:22 PM erforce
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The book follows two of history's most notorious psychopaths: Count Vlad III Dracula, the 15th century Christian zealot known best for impaling his Muslim enemies, and Countess Elizabeth Bathory, the 16th century Hungarian princess rumored to have [[BloodBath bathed in the blood]] of six hundred girls.

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The book follows two of history's most notorious psychopaths: [[UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler Count Vlad III Dracula, Dracula]], the 15th century Christian zealot known best for impaling his Muslim enemies, and Countess Elizabeth Bathory, the 16th century Hungarian princess rumored to have [[BloodBath bathed in the blood]] of six hundred girls.
1st Nov '13 3:18:56 PM TVRulezAgain
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* AntiVillain: They both start out as this, particularly Vlad. All he wants to do is avenge his dead brothers and win back Romania's freedom. Unfortunately, he pulls this off in [[CompleteMonster all the wrong ways]].

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* AntiVillain: They both start out as this, particularly Vlad. All he wants to do is avenge his dead brothers and win back Romania's freedom. Unfortunately, he pulls this off in [[CompleteMonster all the wrong ways]].ways.



* ChildSoldiers: A young Vlad and the rest of the Janissaries. [[spoiler: Later Vlad's little brother, Radu, whom he spent the entire middle section of the novel believing to be dead.]]

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* ChildSoldiers: A young Vlad and the rest of the Janissaries. [[spoiler: Later Vlad's little brother, Radu, whom he spent the entire middle section of the novel believing to be dead.]]



* ChurchMilitant: Vlad. Even as a teen, he is overly zealous about his faith in Christianity, possibly because he's really got nothing else. Reaches tragic heights [[CompleteMonster by the story's end]].

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* ChurchMilitant: Vlad. Even as a teen, he is overly zealous about his faith in Christianity, possibly because he's really got nothing else. Reaches tragic heights [[CompleteMonster by the story's end]].end.
28th Aug '13 12:39:42 PM johnnye
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Both Vlad Tepes and Elizabeth Bathory were pretty unsavory characters, by all historical accounts. The novel amps this UpToEleven, if anything, but suggests it was their childhood (Vlad as a ChildSoldier, Elizabeth as a [[DisabledMeansHelpless cripple]] and a disgrace to her family name) that made them so cruel. Both Vlad and Elizabeth seem very moral in childhood, even kind, until [[BreakTheCutie life just says no]]. invoked



* CompleteMonster: Both characters were morally and socially troubling individuals, even in childhood, but they at least started off as tragic and sympathetic. By the end of the book, it's almost cathartic when they die. invoked
** More Vlad than Elizabeth. She's no saint, but at least she ''thinks'' she's behaving in a logical way, and feels no true satisfaction when she murders someone innocent. Vlad, on the other hand, gloats about the stench of burning bodies, enjoys watching the fear on his victims' faces, and proposes at one point lowering the age of conscription for his army. When the age of conscription is already twelve.



* ForegoneConclusion: It's almost impossible to go into the story not knowing how both characters will turn out.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: When they are children, Vlad lists a number of ancient epileptics to try and cheer Elizabeth up about her disability. Vlad brings up Socrates, Caesar, and Alexander the Great. [[{{Foreshadowing}} Elizabeth quickly retaliates with Caligula.]]



* ItWasHisSled / ForegoneConclusion: It's almost impossible not to go into the story knowing that both characters will die by the end of it.



* MagnificentBastard: Sultan Mehmed. invoked



* MoralEventHorizon: Vlad seems like a very nice, albeit unhinged, young boy, until he kills the Turkish couple who tried to give him shelter and food.



* SacredHospitality: Vlad kills a Turkish couple who tried to give him shelter and food.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Because both main characters are very young when they first begin correspondence, it can easily read as middle-grade fiction... at first.
9th Mar '13 4:45:48 PM skazka
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* AdultFear: When [[spoiler: Elizabeth seizes up and causes her aughters death]]

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* AdultFear: When [[spoiler: Elizabeth seizes up and causes her aughters daughter's death]]
12th Dec '12 8:26:50 AM DoveAlexa
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* HairOfGold: Vlad and Elizabeth are both imagined as blonds; Vlad's hair is at one point referred to as a lion's mane while Elizabeth is compared to the moon. When they are young and innocent, this gives a wholesome and positive image. Probably done [[RuleOfSymbolism on purpose]], knowing that both kids will grow up to be total monsters.

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* HairOfGold: HairOfGoldHeartOfGold: Vlad and Elizabeth are both imagined as blonds; Vlad's hair is at one point referred to as a lion's mane while Elizabeth is compared to the moon. When they are young and innocent, this gives a wholesome and positive image. Probably done [[RuleOfSymbolism on purpose]], knowing that both kids will grow up to be total monsters.
1st Dec '12 11:34:19 AM Tarlonniel
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* ChurchMilitant: Vlad. Even as a teen, he is overly zealous about his faith in Christianity, possibly because he's really got nothing else. [[ItGotWorse Reaches tragic heights]] [[CompleteMonster by the story's end]].

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* ChurchMilitant: Vlad. Even as a teen, he is overly zealous about his faith in Christianity, possibly because he's really got nothing else. [[ItGotWorse Reaches tragic heights]] heights [[CompleteMonster by the story's end]].



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Because both main characters are very young when they first begin correspondence, it can easily read as middle-grade fiction...[[ItGotWorse at first]].

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Because both main characters are very young when they first begin correspondence, it can easily read as middle-grade fiction...[[ItGotWorse at first]].first.
1st Dec '12 11:32:02 AM Tarlonniel
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* ItGotWorse: Everything.
17th Nov '12 3:09:59 PM DeNose
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* AdultFear: When [[spoiler: Elizabeth seizes up and causes her aughters death]]
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