History JustForFun / TheTropelessTale

11th Sep '16 11:27:06 PM TropesForever
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Due to the ''impossibility'' of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works (except [[Theatre/TheTempest one]]). ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' & ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch characterisations.

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Due to the ''impossibility'' of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works (except [[Theatre/TheTempest one]]). ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', time, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' & and ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch arc characterisations.
29th Aug '16 11:52:12 AM MattP5557
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* SchmuckBait: Both the link to the Self Demonstrating page and the challenge to write something tropeless seem appealing.

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* SchmuckBait: Both the link to the Self Demonstrating page and the challenge to write something tropeless seem appealing.'
* ShaggyDogStory: In the end you couldn't create a tropeless tale.
8th Jun '16 12:14:28 AM MrCandle
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* SelfReferentialHumor: This is Tvtropes making fun of it's troping ability.

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* SelfReferentialHumor: This is Tvtropes TVTropes making fun of it's its troping ability.
7th Aug '15 7:00:37 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* AnAesop
* AwfulTruth: Let's face it...

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* AnAesop
AnAesop: You can't write a story without tropes and that's ok.
* AwfulTruth: Let's face it...You will never be 100 percent original. Yes, it's sad but you have to accept it and move on.



* SecondPersonNarration
* SelfReferentialHumor

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* SecondPersonNarration
SecondPersonNarration: The Tropeless Tale narrating itself without the use of "I" or "me".
* SelfReferentialHumorSelfReferentialHumor: This is Tvtropes making fun of it's troping ability.
7th Aug '15 6:55:16 AM ChaoticNovelist
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Due to the virtual impossibility of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works (except [[Theatre/TheTempest one]]). ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' & ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch characterisations.

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Due to the virtual impossibility ''impossibility'' of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works (except [[Theatre/TheTempest one]]). ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' & ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch characterisations.
17th Jul '15 5:14:10 AM imadmagician
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# You cannot avert any tropes, but you can't use AvertedTrope either. Sound like some sort of LogicBomb? [[MindScrew Well, you have to avert that now too]].[[note]][[OverlyLongGag And you have to avert]] MindScrew as well, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment and]] OverlyLongGag, and [[ShapedLikeItself Department of Redundancy Department]] and...[[/note]]

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# You cannot should avert any all tropes, but you can't cannot use AvertedTrope either. Sound like some sort of LogicBomb? [[MindScrew Well, you have to avert that now too]].[[note]][[OverlyLongGag And you have to avert]] MindScrew as well, [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment and]] OverlyLongGag, and [[ShapedLikeItself Department of Redundancy Department]] and...[[/note]]
16th Jul '15 7:04:04 PM Prinzenick
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# You will not have a [[NarrativeTropes narrative]] in your story. That means no {{Dialogue}}, no {{Conflict}}, no {{Characters}}, no {{Plot|s}}. Your story will be about nothingness. [[SceneryPorn Just a page or two describing the non-existent scenery]] that is [[IncrediblyLamePun utropeia]]. [[PurpleProse Or maybe just describing nothingness]]. [[SeinfeldianConversation Aww, nuts, that won't work either...]]

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# You will not have a [[NarrativeTropes narrative]] in your story. That means no {{Dialogue}}, no {{Conflict}}, no {{Characters}}, no {{Plot|s}}. Your story will be about the [[NoPlotNoProblem purely abstract]], maybe even nothingness. [[SceneryPorn Just a page or two describing the non-existent scenery]] that is [[IncrediblyLamePun utropeia]]. [[PurpleProse Or maybe just describing nothingness]]. [[SeinfeldianConversation Aww, nuts, that won't work either...]]]]
27th Jun '15 7:42:58 PM Papayaman1000
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Due to the virtual impossibility of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works. ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' & ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch characterisations.

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Due to the virtual impossibility of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works.works (except [[Theatre/TheTempest one]]). ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' & ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch characterisations.
27th May '15 6:53:22 AM Morgenthaler
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Due to the virtual impossibility of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works. ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers'', ''{{Film/Titanic}}'' & ''{{Film/Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch characterisations.

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Due to the virtual impossibility of writing a story without tropes, it is generally not to be undertaken except as an artistic challenge, and attempting to not use tropes is not necessarily intelligent writing; instead, an easier end toward intelligent writing is to take old tropes and [[TropesAreTools use them in a new way]]. ''{{ComicBook/Watchmen}}'' is considered a masterpiece, even though nothing in it was new. It just used the old in a fascinating way. Creator/WilliamShakespeare lifted all of his plots from other works. ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' is one of the most critically acclaimed fantasy series in modern fiction, and was deliberately filled with every trope, convention and cliche that the writer could think of. Also, let's not forget that the three highest grossing movies of all time ''Film/TheAvengers'', ''{{Film/Titanic}}'' ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' & ''{{Film/Avatar}}'' ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' are riddled with tried and true formulas, familiar story structure and arch characterisations.
20th Apr '15 12:58:55 AM Morgenthaler
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Some works have come close to reaching this nebulous quality such as ''Film/AfterLastSeason'', ''{{Koyaanisqatsi}}'', ''MyDinnerWithAndre'', ''The Man with the Movie Camera'', ''RussianArk'', ''Decasia'' and quite a few TrueArtIsIncomprehensible works, although all of these are arguable and subjective, and well... they tend to come up with tropes anyway. Also, ''Literature/FinnegansWake''. No, wait, that's a MindScrew... Arguably, the closest thing to it is the film ''Film/RoundhayGardenScene'' which is 2 seconds long and depicts no real action, but it's questionable if it can even be considered a "work". [[note]]Even so, aside from JustForFun/TheTropelessTale being a trope itself, its brevity inverts EpicMovie.[[/note]]

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Some works have come close to reaching this nebulous quality such as ''Film/AfterLastSeason'', ''{{Koyaanisqatsi}}'', ''MyDinnerWithAndre'', ''Film/{{Koyaanisqatsi}}'', ''Film/MyDinnerWithAndre'', ''The Man with the Movie Camera'', ''RussianArk'', ''Film/RussianArk'', ''Decasia'' and quite a few TrueArtIsIncomprehensible works, although all of these are arguable and subjective, and well... they tend to come up with tropes anyway. Also, ''Literature/FinnegansWake''. No, wait, that's a MindScrew... Arguably, the closest thing to it is the film ''Film/RoundhayGardenScene'' which is 2 seconds long and depicts no real action, but it's questionable if it can even be considered a "work". [[note]]Even so, aside from JustForFun/TheTropelessTale being a trope itself, its brevity inverts EpicMovie.[[/note]]
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