History Headscratchers / StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier

*** That, or they knew the location of a stable wormhole that would speed up the trip, [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine such things]] being common in Star Trek...

** That would be my guess. Scotty was hoping that the new bridge module would interface with the ship's systems better--he just underestimated how much of a lemon the new ''Enterprise'' is at this point. The ship clearly goes through a pretty major overhaul between this movie and the next (the warp core and engine room were visually identical to that of the ''Enterprise''-D by ''The Undiscovered Country'', for example[[note]] Which was due to time and budget constraints that made redressing the ''TNG'' engineering set impractical--you can even spot a ''TNG''-style computer console that they apparently forgot to cover with the movie-era graphics.[[/note]], so swapping the ''Star Trek V'' module for the seemingly more advanced version from ''The Undiscovered Country'' may have just been a part of that general upgrade.

** It probably wasn't a remodel, exactly. I don't know if there are any references to it in canon, but a lot of background material suggests that bridges on most Starfleet ships are replaceable modules that can be swapped out relatively easily; which is what presumably happened between movies.

* After the death of Sybok, Kirk offers Spock comfort in what should be a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, saying "I lost a brother once. I was lucky to get him back." Kirk's obviously referencing Spock, and the events of Star Trek II and III, and when Kirk says that he lost a brother, both [=McCoy=] and Spock give a small look of surprise before they realize who Kirk is talking about. The thing is, Kirk ''did'' loose his actual brother, George Kirk, who died horribly in ''[[Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate Operation Annihilate!]]''. In fact, both Spock and Bones were with Kirk on the away team that found George's corpse. Doesn't that kind of move Kirks statement to Spock from heartwarming to borderline sociopathy?

*** I thought that Kirk was referring to the loss of his biological brother and implying that Spock had replaced George in his life. However, this slights McCoy. Kirk should have said "I lost a brother once. i was lucky; I got him back. ''[Looks at Spock and then McCoy]'' I got him back twice."

*** The Klingon ambassador, Koord, has explicitly been given the Nimbus III assignment because he's out of favour. The Klingons were hardly likely to rustle up the cavalry for his sake.

** This is just one of the more egregious Star Trek speed errors. TNG had the Enterprise end up over 2 MILLION light years from Earth and Data says that it would take approximately 100 years to get home. By contrast, Voyager going 70,000 light years would taken 70 years. That means the Enterprise D could go 20 times faster than Voyager... it's fair to say that writers really need to try and leave distances out because they ALWAYS screw them up and end up travelling at the speed of plot.
*** Warp 10 = 1,000c; the Designated top Speed applies WITHIN the Galaxy. 2M ly is empty space BETWEEN galaxies. Maybe you can go faster if there ain't all thse frackin stars in the way?

FridgeLogic time. In ''Film/{{Star Trek V|The Final Frontier}}'', there is a toilet in the brig that warns: "DO NOT USE WHILE IN SPACEDOCK". So... why ''would'' there be a problem with this? Maybe it's just sadistic SchmuckBait for the rulebreakers in the brig? And nobody [[IncrediblyLamePun gives a crap]] when they ''[[PottyEmergency need]]'' to take a crap, of course. I'm wondering if it's AllThereInTheManual.

* Once you get to Spacedock, whoever is in the brig is taken to the Spacedock's brig. There shouldn't be anyone except maintenece in there anyway, so not flushing could mean the difference between sucking Ricky Redshirt out into space.

** At the end, Klaa is seen apologizing to Kirk for his actions (with Koord looming over him indimidatingly) and emphasizing that his actions were taken without approval of the High Council. Basically, since he didn't actually manage to hurt anyone, and his following of the ''Enterprise'' led to the rescue of Kirk, he wasn't executed for his violating his orders (probably something along the lines of "here's a sector, stay here and patrol it"). If you look closely in the [[{{Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry}} next film]] you can see that Klaa has been removed from starship command and put on translation duty, so it's obvious that he pissed someone off, but not enough to get executed for it.

** Nimbus III was not a great assignment; in fact, Film/StarTrekTheVITheUndiscoveredCountry shows that the Romulan government actually has an ambassador on Earth, so Nimbus III representative was completely useless. It's unlikely that anybody who was given the position of ambassador to that world was particularly favored by the government that sent them there. Add that to the fact that the Neutral Zone is a DMZ, and it seems unlikely that the Romulans would assign a warship to drop her off. Sybok needed something fast and powerful like a cruiser to get where he needed to go, and to get anyone to send one, he needed a crisis. He's just lucky that Starfleet responded first, as the Romulans or the Klingons probably would have resolved the situation with much more violence.

* What's going on with Klaa, the commander of the Klingon bird-of-prey? He's introduced to us when he destroys Pioneer 10, which SFDebris points out will only be barely outside our solar system (Starfleet headquarters and the capitol of the Federation) by the 23[[superscript:rd]] century. He takes on the mission to Nimbus III just because he's bored, and on his own initiative, he launches an unprovoked attack on ''Enterprise'' which was engaged in rescuing diplomats (including a Klingon official) from a hostage situation. Then, he follows ''Enterprise'' literally to the center of the galaxy just to launch another unprovoked attack. Does Klaa answer to the Klingon military? If he does, why would it allow Klaa to so casually risk war with the Federation ''and''--considering the Romulan ambassador aboard ''Enterprise'', and their eagerness to kill Klingons at the slightest provocation--the Romulan Empire?

** also a perhaps case of CriticalResearchFailure, since according to the other wiki, it had been known since 1974 (and perhaps postulated for some time prior) that there was a black hole with about 4.31 million solar masses at the centre of the galaxy, so travel there in real life would be suicide anyways.

** Just in case someone is NEW to this film and all the speculation, I THINK Shatner himself has conceded that it "Was all just a dream" and the film lends itself to this, opening and closing with Row, Row, Row your boat. I think it's also stated somewhere on this wiki, and that explanation works best. The DCU Comic Book was a better story than the movie explaining away all the headscratchers. (I wish I still had my copy ) Including Kirk's brother. What movie goes fail to realize is that there was a writer's strike and cost overruns that ruined the movie before it began. Even Shatner knew it as he was filming, but by God, he gave 110%, as only superham Shatner can. This movie is a winner only because of sheer BALLS expended in order just to get it made with all the REAL WORLD problems happening. So stop thinking of it as a Star Trek movie and put it in the same box as the TNG holodeck stories where they went to Sherwood just to break the tension and have a little fun.

** Pioneer 10 being as far out as it was could be an example of SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale. Even Voyager 1 hasn't left our Solar System yet (as of 2013), but StarTrekTheMotionPicture had a fictional Voyager ''6'' far enough out of our solar system to be sucked into a black hole.

** also a perhaps case of CriticalResearchFailure, since according to the other wiki, it had been none since 1974 (and perhaps postulated for some time prior) that there was a black hole with about 4.31 million solar masses at the centre of the galaxy, so travel there in real life would be suicide anyways.