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6th May '16 8:21:17 AM Bense
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** Maybe Starfleet is a little over-sensitive about Kirk taking over command of a starship from its regular captain, since whenever he does it the former captain inevitably ends up dead? Sure Spock got better, but Decker has never been heard from again.
28th Apr '16 11:26:09 AM costanton11
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* Kirk protests the Enterprise being sent on the mission since its a mess. He says that there has to be other ships and the admiral says that they have working ships but no experienced captains. Why not just have Kirk take command of one of those ships for the duration of the mission?
18th Mar '16 2:44:44 PM StarTropes
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** I'll do you all better. In ''The Autobiography of James T. Kirk'', it's stated that this movie is in fact a movie made on the planet of SpaceRomans from [[Recap/StarTrekS2E25BreadAndCircuses "Bread and Circuses."]] Kirk and his officers saw the movie when they returned to the planet and saw fans remarkably similar to modern-day Trekkies, complete with homemade Starfleet uniforms.
18th Mar '16 7:11:19 AM StarTropes
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** Nimbus III was not a great assignment; in fact, Film/StarTrekTheVITheUndiscoveredCountry shows that the Romulan government actually has an ambassador on Earth, so Nimbus III representative was completely useless. It's unlikely that anybody who was given the position of ambassador to that world was particularly favored by the government that sent them there. Add that to the fact that the Neutral Zone is a DMZ, and it seems unlikely that the Romulans would assign a warship to drop her off. Sybok needed something fast and powerful like a cruiser to get where he needed to go, and to get anyone to send one, he needed a crisis. He's just lucky that Starfleet responded first, as the Romulans or the Klingons probably would have resolved the situation with much more violence.

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** Nimbus III was not a great assignment; in fact, Film/StarTrekTheVITheUndiscoveredCountry ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'' shows that the Romulan government actually has an ambassador on Earth, so Nimbus III representative was completely useless. It's unlikely that anybody who was given the position of ambassador to that world was particularly favored by the government that sent them there. Add that to the fact that the Neutral Zone is a DMZ, and it seems unlikely that the Romulans would assign a warship to drop her off. Sybok needed something fast and powerful like a cruiser to get where he needed to go, and to get anyone to send one, he needed a crisis. He's just lucky that Starfleet responded first, as the Romulans or the Klingons probably would have resolved the situation with much more violence.
12th Jan '16 8:26:32 PM DonM435
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**** I thought that Kirk was referring to the loss of his biological brother and implying that Spock had replaced George in his life. However, this slights McCoy. Kirk should have said "I lost a brother once. i was lucky; I got him back. ''[Looks at Spock and then McCoy]'' I got him back twice."
18th Dec '15 9:21:46 PM nombretomado
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* What's going on with Klaa, the commander of the Klingon bird-of-prey? He's introduced to us when he destroys Pioneer 10, which SFDebris points out will only be barely outside our solar system (Starfleet headquarters and the capitol of the Federation) by the 23[[superscript:rd]] century. He takes on the mission to Nimbus III just because he's bored, and on his own initiative, he launches an unprovoked attack on ''Enterprise'' which was engaged in rescuing diplomats (including a Klingon official) from a hostage situation. Then, he follows ''Enterprise'' literally to the center of the galaxy just to launch another unprovoked attack. Does Klaa answer to the Klingon military? If he does, why would it allow Klaa to so casually risk war with the Federation ''and''--considering the Romulan ambassador aboard ''Enterprise'', and their eagerness to kill Klingons at the slightest provocation--the Romulan Empire?

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* What's going on with Klaa, the commander of the Klingon bird-of-prey? He's introduced to us when he destroys Pioneer 10, which SFDebris WebSite/SFDebris points out will only be barely outside our solar system (Starfleet headquarters and the capitol of the Federation) by the 23[[superscript:rd]] century. He takes on the mission to Nimbus III just because he's bored, and on his own initiative, he launches an unprovoked attack on ''Enterprise'' which was engaged in rescuing diplomats (including a Klingon official) from a hostage situation. Then, he follows ''Enterprise'' literally to the center of the galaxy just to launch another unprovoked attack. Does Klaa answer to the Klingon military? If he does, why would it allow Klaa to so casually risk war with the Federation ''and''--considering the Romulan ambassador aboard ''Enterprise'', and their eagerness to kill Klingons at the slightest provocation--the Romulan Empire?
22nd Nov '15 6:33:16 AM thatsnumberwang
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** Surely though, as Star Trek V came first, the mistake is with Voyager and not this film? And in regards to the black hole, just because it exists in the real world, doesn't mean it has to exist here. It may have started out as just ''the future'', but even if you want to retcon the eugenics wars in 1996, 2024 will see the sanctuary districts of San Francisco and 2026 will see world war 3.
5th Oct '15 6:51:31 AM ScorpiusOB1
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** also a perhaps case of CriticalResearchFailure, since according to the other wiki, it had been known since 1974 (and perhaps postulated for some time prior) that there was a black hole with about 4.31 million solar masses at the centre of the galaxy, so travel there in real life would be suicide anyways.

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** also Also a perhaps likely case of CriticalResearchFailure, since according to the other wiki, it had been known since 1974 (and perhaps postulated for some time prior) that there was a black hole with about 4.31 million solar masses at the centre of the galaxy, as well as a lot of stars densely packed together surrounding it, so travel there in real life would be suicide anyways.
26th Oct '14 8:39:37 AM TheLyniezian
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** It might be that the toilet simply ejects waste matter out into space, and maintenance-guy-in-spacesuit doesn't want to be hit by random person's flying faeces in such a confined environment such as spacedock. Of course, this method of waste disposal would be highly inefficient for starships on long journeys when some sort of recycling might be in order.
28th Apr '14 6:50:12 PM CaptainJZH
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** Just in case someone is NEW to this film and all the speculation, I THINK Shatner himself has conceded that it "Was all just a dream" and the film lends itself to this, opening and closing with Row, Row, Row your boat. I think it's also stated somewhere on this wiki, and that explanation works best. The DCU Comic Book was a better story than the movie explaining away all the headscratchers. (I wish I still had my copy ) Including Kirk's brother. What movie goes fail to realize is that there was a writer's strike and cost overruns that ruined the movie before it began. Even Shatner knew it as he was filming, but by God, he gave 110%, as only superham Shatner can. This movie is a winner only because of sheer BALLS expended in order just to get it made with all the REAL WORLD problems happening. So stop thinking of it as a Star Trek movie and put it in the same box as the TNG holodeck stories where they went to Sherwood just to break the tension and have a little fun.

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** Just in case someone is NEW to this film and all the speculation, I THINK Shatner himself has conceded that it "Was all just a dream" and the film lends itself to this, opening and closing with Row, Row, Row your boat. I think it's also stated somewhere on this wiki, and that explanation works best. The DCU Comic Book was a better story than the movie explaining away all the headscratchers. (I wish I still had my copy ) Including Kirk's brother. What movie goes goers fail to realize is that there was a writer's strike and cost overruns that ruined the movie before it began. Even Shatner knew it as he was filming, but by God, he gave 110%, as only superham Shatner can. This movie is a winner only because of sheer BALLS expended in order just to get it made with all the REAL WORLD problems happening. So stop thinking of it as a Star Trek movie and put it in the same box as the TNG holodeck stories where they went to Sherwood just to break the tension and have a little fun.
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