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** Possibly if he's the only French speaker in GI Joe, he may have defaulted to speaking English more often since he's around his team mates.


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** The way the scene goes, it looks as though the car nearly hit her and she tilted to avoid it and kept on driving.


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** And Duke volunteered that information about TheBaroness, which would be at great personal risk. They were struggling to ID her until he gave them her name, which coupled with his past record, indicates a lot of integrity.


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** They start evacuating the tower long before the Baroness and Storm Shadow even get into the crash. The ensuing fight is then in the adjacent building, which gives them significantly more time to get as many people out. It only unfolds so quickly because we're watching it in movie time, but it could have been half an hour with all the running and getting to and fro.


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** It seems she was one of the first, or at least very early on in the process, since she was still grieving for her brother, and it can't have been that long since Rex supposedly died that he came for her.
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*** The thing is that everything else was plausible tech rating fairly high on the SlidingScale/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness; power armor, optical camouflage, supersonic troop transports, etc. Even the nanotech was really damned limited: not LOL NANNITES - they require unique power sources (supercollider to arm them), can't replicate infinitely(which is why you need a football-full to vaporize the Eiffel Tower), and have to be programmed for specific tasks ahead of time. Even the cybernetic interfaces are based on current designs - just a decade or so ahead of the SOTA, which is enough that the military could have all that stuff either in late development or in the hands of super-units like the Joes IRL RFN. But MARS has freaky rayguns? That can shoot missiles out of the air? The same power sources in the accelerator suits would power energy weapons, but we haven't even a basic theory behind how to make StarWars blasters.

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*** The thing is that everything else was plausible tech rating fairly high on the SlidingScale/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness; power armor, optical camouflage, supersonic troop transports, etc. Even the nanotech was really damned limited: not LOL NANNITES - they require unique power sources (supercollider to arm them), can't replicate infinitely(which is why you need a football-full to vaporize the Eiffel Tower), and have to be programmed for specific tasks ahead of time. Even the cybernetic interfaces are based on current designs - just a decade or so ahead of the SOTA, which is enough that the military could have all that stuff either in late development or in the hands of super-units like the Joes IRL RFN. But MARS has freaky rayguns? That can shoot missiles out of the air? The same power sources in the accelerator suits would power energy weapons, but we haven't even a basic theory behind how to make StarWars Franchise/StarWars blasters.
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** What bothered ''me'' was less the American / Korean ninja and more the fact that Kid-Who-Would-Be-Snake-Eyes was ''able'' to fight that way. Tiny!Storm Shadow had been trained since he could stand, so okay, but what are the odds a badass little kid would choose to pilfer the one martial dojo where he'd fight ''another'' badass kid and get clan-adopted? Did I miss a prequel comic here? A webisode? If so, links are appreciated. Was Snake Eyes' father a wandering American streetfighter looking to make a name in Japan? Is his real last name [[StreetFighter Masters]]?

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** What bothered ''me'' was less the American / Korean ninja and more the fact that Kid-Who-Would-Be-Snake-Eyes was ''able'' to fight that way. Tiny!Storm Shadow had been trained since he could stand, so okay, but what are the odds a badass little kid would choose to pilfer the one martial dojo where he'd fight ''another'' badass kid and get clan-adopted? Did I miss a prequel comic here? A webisode? If so, links are appreciated. Was Snake Eyes' father a wandering American streetfighter looking to make a name in Japan? Is his real last name [[StreetFighter [[Franchise/StreetFighter Masters]]?
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*** The thing is that everything else was plausible tech rating fairly high on the MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness; power armor, optical camouflage, supersonic troop transports, etc. Even the nanotech was really damned limited: not LOL NANNITES - they require unique power sources (supercollider to arm them), can't replicate infinitely(which is why you need a football-full to vaporize the Eiffel Tower), and have to be programmed for specific tasks ahead of time. Even the cybernetic interfaces are based on current designs - just a decade or so ahead of the SOTA, which is enough that the military could have all that stuff either in late development or in the hands of super-units like the Joes IRL RFN. But MARS has freaky rayguns? That can shoot missiles out of the air? The same power sources in the accelerator suits would power energy weapons, but we haven't even a basic theory behind how to make StarWars blasters.

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*** The thing is that everything else was plausible tech rating fairly high on the MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness; SlidingScale/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness; power armor, optical camouflage, supersonic troop transports, etc. Even the nanotech was really damned limited: not LOL NANNITES - they require unique power sources (supercollider to arm them), can't replicate infinitely(which is why you need a football-full to vaporize the Eiffel Tower), and have to be programmed for specific tasks ahead of time. Even the cybernetic interfaces are based on current designs - just a decade or so ahead of the SOTA, which is enough that the military could have all that stuff either in late development or in the hands of super-units like the Joes IRL RFN. But MARS has freaky rayguns? That can shoot missiles out of the air? The same power sources in the accelerator suits would power energy weapons, but we haven't even a basic theory behind how to make StarWars blasters.
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** They weren't so much arresting Anna as containing her. The nanomites were still in her system and for all they knew there could be a kill her or kill herself function in them, they could be activated to brainwash her again, not to mention more conventional brainwashing on the side. Until she's gotten the nanomites out Anna is still a danger to herself everyone around her, and she'd probably need years of therapy not only to deprogram her otherwise but deal with the no doubt massive amount of issues she's going to have.
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* So why was the Baroness arrested? Duke could vouch for her, and they clearly know the nanomites are in her system, surely they could claim under extreme duress/coercion.
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** Zartan was the first test subject. While the Doctor probably refuse to bring back his own face because [[ThatManIsDead Rex is dead]].


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** [[@/TitoMosquito My]] headcanon was that he was TheUnfavorite of the family and [[AllTheOtherReindeer he was ridiculed and unappreciated for his intelligence]] (think Sci-Twi during ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames''). All that abuse can affect a person, and all it takes is [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke one bad day]] to drive someone over the edge.
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** Once again not FridgeLogic, but there is a difference: The Team America example caused a lot more damage than the bomb would have done while the GIJoe team managed to reduce the level of damage that would have resulted.

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** Once again not FridgeLogic, but there is a difference: The Team America example caused a lot more damage than the bomb would have done while the GIJoe G.I. Joe team managed to reduce the level of damage that would have resulted.
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* So is it ever really explained (in the novelization or something) why Rex went off the deep end like almost instantly? he walks into Dr. Mindbenders lab, sees a dudes face get melted off, and is like "its awesome, I want it" up until that point Rex was never shown as nothing more than a swell guy, whose sister was marrying the dude who was going to look out for him, hell, the dude was a medic, Dr. Mindbenders stuff was as far flung from what a medic would find awesome in the slightest.
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** I'll just quote from the [[Film/GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra main page]] on the YouFailPhysicsForever example:"Justified It's said on screen that there are tunnels in the ice. Presumably made of metal or concrete that would cause the ice to sink despite it's natural buoyancy." "Very nearly turned into Fridge Brilliance by Scarlett's comment roughly half a minute later, out-and-out mentioning the large quantity of metal lacing the ice directly above them."

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** I'll just quote from the [[Film/GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra main page]] on the YouFailPhysicsForever ArtisticLicensePhysics example:"Justified It's said on screen that there are tunnels in the ice. Presumably made of metal or concrete that would cause the ice to sink despite it's natural buoyancy." "Very nearly turned into Fridge Brilliance by Scarlett's comment roughly half a minute later, out-and-out mentioning the large quantity of metal lacing the ice directly above them."
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* Apparently the Joe headquarters have no alarms and one whole guard looking after the place at night. Also, the bad guys will kill Cover Girl just for standing in the doorway but they won't take three extra seconds to make sure General Hawk is dead.
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* So the Doctor can make Zartan look like the President but can't fix his own face.
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** That's not FridgeLogic, which JustBugsMe is about, that's an alternate scene. How would he know which one they'd use? Also the Baronness could probably read him like a book and know if he tried that.

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** That's not FridgeLogic, which JustBugsMe Headscratchers is about, that's an alternate scene. How would he know which one they'd use? Also the Baronness could probably read him like a book and know if he tried that.
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* Just what were ''''Pulse weapons'''' suppose to be anyway? Lasers? plasma cannons? rail guns? all the other tech was loosely based of real world stuff. So to have Cobra randomly whip out [[RayGun Ray Guns]] seems a little... ''{{egregious}}''.

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* Just what were ''''Pulse weapons'''' suppose to be anyway? Lasers? plasma cannons? rail guns? all the other tech was loosely based of real world stuff. So to have Cobra randomly whip out [[RayGun Ray Guns]] seems a little... ''{{egregious}}''.''JustForFun/{{egregious}}''.
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*** I think he/she meant that the ''cartoon'' was aimed at children, not the movie.


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** I'm pretty sure they were blue in the cartoon, too.
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* When the villain threatens to kill his sister in ''Rise of the Cobra'', why doesn't the main character call his bluff? Essentially, say, "You won't do it because if you do, I'll kill you and you value your life more." In fact, that bugs me about almost any movie hostage situation, the villain literally ''can't'' kill the hostage because it would mean their own death and villains always care most about their own lives. Why don't any heroes ever realize this?

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* When the villain threatens to kill his sister in ''Rise ''The Rise of the Cobra'', why doesn't the main character call his bluff? Essentially, say, "You won't do it because if you do, I'll kill you and you value your life more." In fact, that bugs me about almost any movie hostage situation, the villain literally ''can't'' kill the hostage because it would mean their own death and villains always care most about their own lives. Why don't any heroes ever realize this?
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*** During Scarlett's motorcycle sequence, she's very clearly ''hit by a car'' while she's driving, but in a clearly CGI moment, she's only shoved a little, and keeps on driving. It's supposed to be BadAss, but it just fries WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief for a moment and throws one out of the film.

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*** During Scarlett's motorcycle sequence, she's very clearly ''hit by a car'' while she's driving, but in a clearly CGI moment, she's only shoved a little, and keeps on driving. It's supposed to be BadAss, badass, but it just fries WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief for a moment and throws one out of the film.
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**** I always assumed that they were sonic weaponry. The effects the weapons produce (concussive impact, but no/low direct damage to target) are very similar to what I would expect from a high powered infrasound pulse. It would also explain the weird ripple effect and noise they produce and the fact that they are effective in water as well as in air. It's not exactly hard sci-fi, but it's also not completely soft either.
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** Unless his company was actually contracted to build nukes, he'd have had to run his own programme in total secrecy. Running a nuclear weapons programme in total secrecy is harder than you think. The technologies, personnel and raw material required are closely scrutinised, for obvious reasons, and if anyone gets suspicious, a transnational corporation is far more vulnerable to investigation than a rogue state. The nanomites, on the other hand, MARS was actually contracted by NATO to build, so any activity related to them didn't need to be secret at all.
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