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** Okay first of all, That's not Fridge Brilliance in the slightest, and second of all not everyone hated the Goliath Chronicles or considers it fanfiction.
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** Okay first of all, That's not Fridge Brilliance in the slightest, and second of all not everyone hated the Goliath Chronicles or considers it fanfiction.
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** Even worse FridgeHorror: Imagine if you were one of the people who didn't see the enchanted broadcasts, so remained flesh when the sun went down. Now, imagine if you're riding in a car at the time, whose ''driver'' did '''not''' miss it. Better hope they aren't accelerating or making a turn when it happens, because you might just have to break their limbs to bits to avoid crashing...
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** Actually, it's [[WordOfGod creator]] says that at least some episodes, mainly "The Journey", "The Dying of the Light", and "Angels in the Night" are cannon. Though everything else being a fanfic is still workable.

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** Actually, it's the [[WordOfGod creator]] of the first series says that at least some episodes, mainly "The Journey", "The Dying of the Light", and "Angels in the Night" are cannon. Though everything else being a fanfic is still workable.
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** Actually, it's [[WordOfGod creator]] says that at least some episodes, mainly "The Journey", "The Dying of the Light", and "Angels in the Night" are cannon. Though everything else being a fanfic is still workable.
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* As a continuation of the main series, ''The Goliath Chronicles'' [[CanonDiscontinuity is awful]]. But if you think of it as a fanfic that just happened to get animated, it's actually halfway decent. -{{Tropers/Blazar}}

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* As a continuation of the main series, ''The Goliath Chronicles'' [[CanonDiscontinuity is awful]].a little lacking in some parts]]. But if you think of it as a fanfic that just happened to get animated, it's actually halfway decent. -{{Tropers/Blazar}}
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*** Given that the people's clothing turned to stone as well, for sanity's sake, I go with the idea that a fetus would qualify as still being a part of the mother, and so also subject to the spell. The REAL infant concern is in NYC's maternity wards - those babies wouldn't have seen the spell, but their attending nurses would have...
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* When Goliath and co. visit the BadFuture in Manhattan at the conclusion of the "Avalon World Tour" arc, the very first sound that they hear (which first lets them know that something's amiss) is an electronic recording of Owen's voice telling them that they've violated "Manhattan national sovereignty". Somewhat conspicuously, Owen is one of the few major supporting characters whose ultimate fate we never learn in that episode. [[spoiler: Of course, we learn a few episodes later that Owen was actually Puck's human alter ego all along, and that the BadFuture was an illusion built by Puck. It makes perfect sense that the illusion would start with Puck's voice essentially "announcing" the charade from offscreen. And of course, Puck wouldn't appear in his "Owen" disguise, because he was busy pulling the strings behind the whole illusion. And he wouldn't have thought to give Owen his own unique future, because he knew that Owen was just a disguise, and had no independent existence.]]
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*** Only half a very good businessman. [[UsefulNotes/Objectivism He may "never live for the sake of another man,"]] but his reliance on deceit and willingness to exploit others for his own unjust gain earned at their expense instead of dealing fairly to mutual gain of all parties he deals with proves he's ''very'' willing to "ask another man to live for mine," which makes him a (great) villain even from a point-of-view that condones selfishness.

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*** Only half ''half'' a very good businessman. [[UsefulNotes/Objectivism [[UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} He may "never live for the sake of another man,"]] but his reliance on deceit and willingness to exploit others for his own unjust gain earned at their expense instead of dealing fairly to mutual gain of all parties he deals with proves he's ''very'' willing to "ask another man to live for mine," which makes him a (great) villain even from a point-of-view that condones selfishness.
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*** Only half a very good businessman. [[UsefulNotes/Objectivism He may "never live for the sake of another man,"]] but his reliance on deceit and willingness to exploit others for his own unjust gain earned at their expense instead of dealing fairly to mutual gain of all parties he deals with proves he's ''very'' willing to "ask another man to live for mine," which makes him a (great) villain even from a point-of-view that condones selfishness.
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**This tropette is more concerned about City of Stone. Fox may have turned, but how could little Alex if he didn't actually see the broadcast himself? At least a werefox's body could supply some nutrients to the developing fetus, but I can't help but wonder if his latent magical abilities were the only thing that kept Alexander alive.
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* Vinnie's revenge on the face of it is kinda lame: A pie in the face equals the loss of two jobs and a drivers' liscense? But think: A) actually killing Goliath would have been [[DisproportionateRetrobution cartoonish supervillainy levels of overkill]], and B) if you can hit someone with a pie, you can hit them with a bullet. Vinnie's revenge was Goliath knowing that if it had been real, he'd be dead.
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** According to Ask Greg, Demona, no matter how much she hates herself, is too much of a survivor to seriously entertain suicide as an option for long. ''Macbeth'', on the other hand, ''is'' pretty much suicidal (at least up until the events of "City of Stone" caused him to rethink things, and unlike Demona he didn't ignore his epiphany).
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* ''Eye of the Beholder'': [[{{WordOfGod}} Word of God's]] timeline confirms that Fox was pregnant when she turned into that wolf-creature. Imagine what that may have done to her kid...
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** She ''can't'' commit suicide, thanks to her link with MacBeth. She must die by his hand, or not at all, which provides a whole new layer of FridgeHorror to her constant provocation of him.

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** She ''can't'' commit suicide, thanks to her link with MacBeth.Macbeth. She must die by his hand, or not at all, which provides a whole new layer of FridgeHorror to her constant provocation of him.
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* The end of “Enter Macbeth,” where Owen shows Xanatos Macbeth fighting the gargoyles, and Xanatos says, “It would seem we have a new player in the game.” Oh, the irony.

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* The end of “Enter Macbeth,” where Owen shows Xanatos Macbeth fighting the gargoyles, and Xanatos says, “It would seem we have a new player in the game.” Oh, the irony.
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* The end of “Enter Macbeth,” where Owen shows Xanatos Macbeth fighting the gargoyles, and Xanatos says, “It would seem we have a new player in the game.” Oh, the irony.

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** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Wait, wait, wait. Get back to the chocolate milk. There was chocolate milk?]]
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** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Wow! You had chocolate milk?]]
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** She ''can't'' commit suicide, thanks to her link with MacBeth. She must die by his hand, or not at all, which provides a whole new layer of FridgeHorror to her constant provocation of him.
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* As a continuation of the main series, ''The Goliath Chronicles'' [[CanonDiscontinuity is awful]]. But if you think of it as a fanfic that just happened to get animated, it's actually halfway decent. -{{Tropers/Blazar}}
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* In the episode "Deadly Force", Brooklyn almost kills Elisa by playing with her gun. Later, in the episode "The Price", Broadway accidentally turns to stone in mid-flight, and Elisa saves his life by [[ShootTheRope shooting a rope]] which held a crate containing some carpets that were able to break his fall. This shows how guns can be used to kill and how they can protect someone depending on how they are used.

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* In the episode "Deadly Force", Brooklyn Broadway almost kills Elisa by while playing with her gun. Later, in the episode "The Price", Broadway accidentally turns to stone in mid-flight, and Elisa saves his life by [[ShootTheRope shooting a rope]] which held a crate containing some carpets that were able to break his fall. This shows how guns can be used to kill and how they can protect someone depending on how they are used.
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\n* In "City of Stone, Part Two", Duncan informs Macbeth that Gillecomgain is the Hunter, to manipulate Macbeth into going after Gillecomgain. And yet, after Gillecomgain is killed, Duncan decides to take up the Hunter's mask to avenge his death. But why would he want revenge against Macbeth and Demona for Gillecomgain's death, if that was what he sought? And I realized that his goal in that episode was ''not'' to get Gillecomgain killed. Gillecomgain had earlier refused to kill Macbeth because it would lead to questions of who killed Findlaech, and probably lead to his execution and a coup against Duncan. But if Macbeth went to Castle Moray to kill Gillecomgain, Gillecomgain could "legally" kill him in self-defense, and it would not cause people to look further into Findlaech's murder. It would have worked, if it were not for that pesky gargoyle Demona.
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* I was making chocolate milk when it suddenly struck me what makes David Xanatos the greatest villain. It's not that he's an EvilGenius who can [[UnwittingPawn trick the heroes into doing his plans for him]], it's not that he has the capacity to feel love and other human emotions, it's not his DissonantSerenity and simple amorality as opposed to being a one-dimensional CardCarryingVillain or CompleteMonster. It's the complete lack of a FreudianExcuse! They don't try to humanize him or make us sympathize with him because of some painful past or bad childhood. He's the type of person he is and does what he does entirely because he wants to be. ''And we're still drawn to him!'' That more than anything confirms for me that this guy really is in total control. ~ @/{{Lale}}

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* I was making chocolate milk when it suddenly struck me what makes David Xanatos the greatest villain. It's not that he's an EvilGenius who can [[UnwittingPawn trick the heroes into doing his plans for him]], it's not that he has the capacity to feel love and other human emotions, it's not his DissonantSerenity and simple amorality as opposed to being a one-dimensional CardCarryingVillain or CompleteMonster.CardCarryingVillain. It's the complete lack of a FreudianExcuse! They don't try to humanize him or make us sympathize with him because of some painful past or bad childhood. He's the type of person he is and does what he does entirely because he wants to be. ''And we're still drawn to him!'' That more than anything confirms for me that this guy really is in total control. ~ @/{{Lale}}

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* I just realized the fact that Brooklyn's [[EvilKnockoff Evil Clone]] is named Hollywood has two layers. First of all, Broadway is in New York, and Hollywood is in L.A. However, both are entertainment capitals of the world: Broadway of theater, and Hollywood of film. It's a perfect contrast --@/DynamicDragon

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* I just realized the fact that Brooklyn's Broadway's [[EvilKnockoff Evil Clone]] is named Hollywood has two layers. First of all, Broadway is in New York, and Hollywood is in L.A. However, both are entertainment capitals of the world: Broadway of theater, and Hollywood of film. It's a perfect contrast --@/DynamicDragon



* The Magus never let Catherine know about his love for her and let her fall in love with Tom while he remained alone. He argues this is because without his magic he has nothing to offer her, but this plainly isn't true as his wisdom and friendship are indispensable to all who live on Avalon. In the same conversation he also says that what he did to the Gargoyles (turning them to stone for 1000 years) is unforgivable. That's when I realized that he viewed his pain as penance for his "crime." He's been punishing himself for a thousand years (okay, 42 by his count, but still) and feels that it ''still'' isn't enough. Someone give this poor man a hug!

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* The Magus never let Catherine Katherine know about his love for her and let her fall in love with Tom while he remained alone. He argues this is because without his magic he has nothing to offer her, but this plainly isn't true as his wisdom and friendship are indispensable to all who live on Avalon. In the same conversation he also says that what he did to the Gargoyles (turning them to stone for 1000 years) is unforgivable. That's when I realized that he viewed his pain as penance for his "crime." He's been punishing himself for a thousand years (okay, 42 by his count, but still) and feels that it ''still'' isn't enough. Someone give this poor man a hug!
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** [[SpaceWhaleAesop Although generally not by shooting through a crane cable in hopes that the crate of carpets it's supporting will luckily burst open and provide a softer landing surface for somebody who's plummeting to their death after spontaneously turning to stone.]]
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** [[SpaceWhaleAesop Although generally not by shooting through a crane cable in hopes that the crate of carpets it's supporting will luckily burst open and provide a softer landing surface for somebody who's plummeting to their death after spontaneously turning to stone.]]
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* Watch 'Vows', examine closely what the StableTimeLoop told Demona about her own future (and what she didn't learn), and then watch 'Awakening' and 'City of Stone' again - focusing on Demona's actions. Her [[FutureMeScaresMe older incarnation]] showed her what would happen, but Goliath interrupted before the older Demona could explain exactly how this had come to happen. All Demona's actions from the day she and Goliath exchanged vows to the very moment she saw the Vikings sneaking into position were attempts to prevent that future from happening [[TheCassandra with the incomplete information she had.]] The writers either decided 'all Demona's actions stem from a visit from her future self long before the events of the pilot' while they were writing the pilot, or they executed one of the most skillful [[RetCon continuity re-interpretations]] in the genre. Then, a thousand years later, Demona completes her StableTimeLoop and realizes only afterwards that she was doomed to fail. If she seems to have gotten even more vengeful and crazy after 'Vows', it may be a result of her feeling that destiny itself is against her.

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* Watch 'Vows', examine closely what the StableTimeLoop told Demona about her own future (and what she didn't learn), and then watch 'Awakening' and 'City of Stone' again - focusing on Demona's actions. Her [[FutureMeScaresMe older incarnation]] showed her what would happen, but Goliath interrupted before the older Demona could explain exactly how this had come to happen. All Demona's actions from the day she and Goliath exchanged vows to the very moment she saw the Vikings sneaking into position were attempts to prevent that future from happening [[TheCassandra [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast with the incomplete information she had.]] The writers either decided 'all Demona's actions stem from a visit from her future self long before the events of the pilot' while they were writing the pilot, or they executed one of the most skillful [[RetCon continuity re-interpretations]] in the genre. Then, a thousand years later, Demona completes her StableTimeLoop and realizes only afterwards that she was doomed to fail. If she seems to have gotten even more vengeful and crazy after 'Vows', it may be a result of her feeling that destiny itself is against her.
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** Wait, wait, wait. Get back to the chocolate milk. There was chocolate milk?

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** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Wait, wait, wait. Get back to the chocolate milk. There was chocolate milk?milk?]]
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