History Fridge / Gargoyles

27th Apr '17 11:56:02 PM LOAD
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* According to Greg Weisman, Gargoyles didn't evolve from mammals or reptiles....but rather from something else. Which isn't horrifying itself, unless you think about how different species looked back then. Look at the evolution of certain creatures and look at how they are now, there are similarities but also some vast differences mostly in size and looks. Modern day humans are different than Neanderthals or other type of early man. Now look at modern gargoyles, they have horns, wings, tails, stand with their legs at strange angles, have claws, fangs etc. So, what did the earliest form of gargoyle look like?

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* According to Greg Weisman, Gargoyles didn't evolve from mammals or reptiles....but rather from something else. Which isn't horrifying itself, unless you think about how different species looked back then. Look at the evolution of certain creatures and look at how they are now, there are similarities but also some vast differences mostly in size and looks. Modern day humans are different than Neanderthals or other type of early man. Now look at modern gargoyles, they have horns, wings, tails, stand with their legs at strange angles, have claws, fangs etc. So, what did the earliest form of gargoyle look like?
27th Apr '17 10:01:01 PM yocelin
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* According to Greg Weisman, Gargoyles didn't evolve from mammals or reptiles....but rather from something else. Which isn't horrifying itself, unless you think about how different species looked back then. Look at the evolution of certain creatures and look at how they are now, there are similarities but also some vast differences mostly in size and looks. Modern day humans are different than Neanderthals or other type of early man. Now look at modern gargoyles, they have horns, wings, tails, stand with their legs at strange angles, have claws, fangs etc. So, what did the earliest form of gargoyle look like?
21st Apr '17 5:36:15 AM RedRoverRedRover
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* Thailog is Goliath spelled backwards (If you count 'Th' as one letter using something like þ (thorn) to represent it as would've been done in Old or Middle English, if not it's just an anagram)
10th Apr '17 11:36:16 AM JMcool
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*Thailog is Goliath spelled backwards (If you count 'Th' as one letter using something like þ (thorn) to represent it as would've been done in Old or Middle English, if not it's just an anagram)
19th Mar '17 5:26:15 AM timemonkey
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** The incident with Matrix is at least implied to have been anouther of Anastasia's attempts to push Fox into displaying her magical abilities (given she's actually Titania she likely could have solved the Matrix problem with a snap of her fingers if things had really got out of hand). The other incidents however...
31st Jan '17 10:42:42 AM theanarchitect
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*** I've always thought that particular order may have unintended consequences. Goliath is order to acts as if he was not under *A* spell. Not "The" spell, but "A" spell. I think this order may have inadvertently made him immune to all forms of magical mind control.
6th Nov '16 10:01:29 AM Scabbard
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*** not exactly true, Puck DID want to go back to Avalon eventually. It's his home. He just wasn't ready to go back when Oberon fetched him. It's like wanting to stay at a friends house a few more days and getting kicked out of your house in doing so. Just look at Puck's reaction when Oberon makes that decree. I believe his words were "No! Not eternally!"

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*** not Not exactly true, Puck DID want to go back to Avalon eventually. It's his home. He just wasn't ready to go back when Oberon fetched him. It's like wanting to stay at a friends house a few more days and getting kicked out of your house in doing so. Just look at Puck's reaction when Oberon makes that decree. I believe his words were "No! Not eternally!"
5th Nov '16 11:31:16 PM Scabbard
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** There is no injustice. Puck deserved what he got. Regardless of what else Puck may have committed himself to Oberon was still his lord and master and Puck ignored the command to return to Avalon for the Gathering. Then when Oberon shows up in person Puck attacks him, and no it is not a necessary attack, Alexander was in no actual danger and Oberon was deliberately not using lethal force (and he easily could have killed all of them repeatedly). Three of Oberon's Children failed to show to the Gathering, Banshee, Puck and Titania. Oberon says Titania may coem and go as she pleases and even she submits when he directly orders it. Banshee refused the call and started a fight with Odin and ended up haing her power restrained. Puck refused the call and attacked him personally and ended up with his power restrained and banished from his homeland. Honestly, Oberon punished pretty fairly and consistently if you think about it, he even left enough loopholes to allow Puck to remain immortal. It's Puck who made his choice and has to live with the consequences.

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** There is no injustice. Puck deserved what he got. Regardless of what else Puck may have committed himself to Oberon was still his lord and master and Puck ignored the command to return to Avalon for the Gathering. Then when Oberon shows up in person Puck attacks him, and no it is not a necessary attack, Alexander was in no actual danger and Oberon was deliberately not using lethal force (and he easily could have killed all of them repeatedly). Three of Oberon's Children failed to show to the Gathering, Banshee, Puck and Titania. Oberon says Titania may coem come and go as she pleases and even she submits when he directly orders it. Banshee refused the call and started a fight with Odin and ended up haing having her power restrained. Puck refused the call and attacked him personally and ended up with his power restrained and banished from his homeland. Honestly, Oberon punished pretty fairly and consistently if you think about it, he even left enough loopholes to allow Puck to remain immortal. It's Puck who made his choice and has to live with the consequences.
12th Sep '16 1:44:37 PM Sharlee
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*** Plus, Puck never really wanted to go back to Avalon, anyway, saying that it was "boring." He'd much rather have stayed with the Xanatos family, because they were anything but boring. Now, thanks to Oberon's decree, he never has to go back to Avalon again, and he will live out the rest of his very long life in service to a ''very'' interesting family. Plus, he can work any magic he likes as long as he's either defending or teaching Alex Xanatos...and, as the resident master of LoopholeAbuse, Puck can construe ''anything'' as teaching or defending Alex. All in all, he got ''exactly '' what he wanted out of life by pulling off a [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu On Oberon]]. And now you know why we never see Xanatos [[TheChessmaster playing chess]] with [[spoiler: Owen]].

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*** Plus, Puck never really wanted to go back to Avalon, anyway, saying that it was "boring." He'd much rather have stayed with the Xanatos family, because they were anything but boring. Now, thanks to Oberon's decree, he never has to go back to Avalon again, and he will live out the rest of his very long life in service to a ''very'' interesting family. Plus, he can work any magic he likes as long as he's either defending or teaching Alex Xanatos...and, as the resident master of LoopholeAbuse, Puck can construe ''anything'' as teaching or defending Alex. All in all, he got ''exactly '' what he wanted out of life by pulling off a [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu On Oberon]].DidYouJustScamCthulhu ''on Oberon''. And now you know why we never see Xanatos [[TheChessmaster playing chess]] with [[spoiler: Owen]].


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*** You're assuming Puck wasn't playing along to ensure Oberon didn't catch on that he'd been conned. And that Puck doesn't realize he can probably convince Oberon to rescind that order eventually, given that "eternally" gives him a '''very''' long time to figure out how.
21st Jul '16 3:26:04 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In "The Gathering: Part 2" Puck mentions that he offered Xanatos the choice between any one wish or a lifetime of servitude from Owen Burnett [[spoiler: (Puck's human alter ego)]]. I never understood his choosing Owen, as fond as he may be of the man there's no way he would ever give up his chance an immortality like that (especially since it was one of his main motivations for much of the series) until I realized that one of his defining characteristics is that he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy, he probably knew that no matter what wish he made [[JackassGenie Puck would probably find a way to screw him over.]] This is why he chose Owen, this is what impressed Puck so much as to instill such a sense of loyalty to a measly human (that and Xanatos is never, ever boring).

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* In "The Gathering: Part 2" Puck mentions that he offered Xanatos the choice between any one wish or a lifetime of servitude from Owen Burnett [[spoiler: (Puck's human alter ego)]]. I never understood his choosing Owen, as fond as he may be of the man there's no way he would ever give up his chance an immortality like that (especially since it was one of his main motivations for much of the series) until I realized that one of his defining characteristics is that he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy, savvy, he probably knew that no matter what wish he made [[JackassGenie Puck would probably find a way to screw him over.]] This is why he chose Owen, this is what impressed Puck so much as to instill such a sense of loyalty to a measly human (that and Xanatos is never, ever boring).
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