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5th Jan '16 5:08:03 PM elsullivano
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A 2011 film directed and co-written by SteveMcQueen.

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A 2011 film directed and co-written by SteveMcQueen.
Steve McQueen.
5th Jan '16 5:07:12 PM elsullivano
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A 2011 film directed and co-written by Creator/SteveMcQueen.

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A 2011 film directed and co-written by Creator/SteveMcQueen.
SteveMcQueen.
26th Oct '15 11:33:48 AM Discar
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->''"We aren't bad people. We just come from a bad place."''\\
--'''Sissy'''

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->''"We aren't bad people. We just come from a bad place."''\\
--'''Sissy'''
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-->-- '''Sissy'''
9th Aug '15 9:23:59 PM Fireblood
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* FakeAmerican / OohMeAccentsSlipping: Fassbender drifts in and out of an American accent, but they include a token "I grew up in Ireland" line (probably so he can focus less on his accent and more on keeping in character during largely improvised scenes). On the other hand, Mulligan maintains a convincing American accent most of the time, but also occasionally drifts into what sounds like an Irish accent, despite the Actress being English.



* {{Foreshadowing}} [[spoiler: / RedHerring]]: When Sissy first takes the metro with Brandon, she's awfully close to the edge of the platform and Brandon grabs her, prompting her not to do something silly (such as committing suicide). At the end of the movie, [[spoiler: Brandon's train gets stopped a few meters before reaching the end of its platform by person throwing themselves under its wheels (and the train gets evacuated for 'police investigation', with firemen et al). We get a very moving sequence in which Brandon realizes his sister probably was under the train, and he rushes to his home, expecting to find a goodbye note from her. He finds her instead. She was attempting suicide alright, but had chosen a different, slower method.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}} [[spoiler: / RedHerring]]: When Sissy first takes the metro with Brandon, she's awfully close to the edge of the platform and Brandon grabs her, prompting her not to do something silly (such as committing suicide). At the end of the movie, [[spoiler: Brandon's train gets stopped a few meters before reaching the end of its platform by a person throwing themselves under its wheels (and the train gets evacuated for 'police investigation', with firemen et al).et. al.). We get a very moving sequence in which Brandon realizes his sister probably was under the train, and he rushes to his home, expecting to find a goodbye note from her. He finds her instead. She was attempting suicide alright, but had chosen a different, slower method.]]



** For example: Brandon takes Sissy's scarf and sniffs it after he discovers her in his apartment, they show little disgust at him seeing her naked, he straddles her in nothing but a towel after she catches him masturbating (The scene is ''very'' reminiscent of attempted rape, including Sissy's panicked reaction). He lovingly (and not in a brotherly way) watches her perform at a club. He also reacts to her having a sexual relationship with his boss as if he's jealous. Sissy also notes his odd behavior towards her in dialogue:

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** For example: Brandon takes Sissy's scarf and sniffs it after he discovers her in his apartment, they show little disgust at him seeing her naked, he straddles her in nothing but a towel after she catches him masturbating (The (the scene is ''very'' reminiscent of attempted rape, including Sissy's panicked reaction). He lovingly (and not in a brotherly way) watches her perform at a club. He also reacts to her having a sexual relationship with his boss as if he's jealous. Sissy also notes his odd behavior towards her in dialogue:



** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2NuKD-U4g Let's not forget this moment]]. Despite they are in heated argument, it starts with Sissy resting her head on Brandon's shoulder. At some points, their faces are ''very'' close each other to the point that they could've just kissed anytime if they ever wanted it. Really, if they weren't siblings, the scene can be very easily mistaken as an argument between couple with AwfulWeddedLife.

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2NuKD-U4g Let's not forget this moment]]. Despite that they are in heated argument, it starts with Sissy resting her head on Brandon's shoulder. At some points, their faces are ''very'' close each other to the point that they could've just kissed anytime if they ever wanted it. Really, if they weren't siblings, the scene can be very easily mistaken as an argument between a couple with an AwfulWeddedLife.



* NoEnding: It's left ambiguous if Brandon [[spoiler: can resist his urges or if he follows the engaged woman from the beginning continuing his path of self destruction.]]

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* NoEnding: It's left ambiguous if Brandon [[spoiler: can resist his urges or if he follows the engaged woman from the beginning beginning, continuing his path of self destruction.]]



* PlatonicProstitution: Played with - Brandon hires numerous prostitutes for sex, but at times seems to be trying to form some sort of emotional connection with them, perhaps just out of sheer desperation. They always politely decline.

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* PlatonicProstitution: Played with {{Played with}} - Brandon hires numerous prostitutes for sex, but at times seems to be trying to form some sort of emotional connection with them, perhaps just out of sheer desperation. They always politely decline.



* ReallyGetsAround: [[CaptainObvious Brandon]]. The movie itself is something of a {{Deconstruction}} of this idea.
* SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny: Subverted. Though Brandon has no religious conditioning to view sex as sinful or forbidden, it is generally compulsive and emotionally unhealthy for him. And he's pretty much always horny.

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* ReallyGetsAround: [[CaptainObvious Brandon]]. The movie itself is something of a {{Deconstruction}} {{deconstruction}} of this idea.
* SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny: Subverted. {{Subverted}}. Though Brandon has no religious conditioning to view extramarital sex as sinful or forbidden, it is generally compulsive and emotionally unhealthy for him. And he's pretty much always horny.
30th Mar '15 5:31:08 AM Morgenthaler
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A 2011 film directed and co-written by Steve [=McQueen=].

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A 2011 film directed and co-written by Steve [=McQueen=].
Creator/SteveMcQueen.
4th Jan '15 5:11:24 PM nombretomado
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MichaelFassbender stars as Brandon Sullivan, a 30-something yuppie New Yorker suffering from sex addiction. Things only get worse for him when his little sister, Sissy (Creator/CareyMulligan), shows up and insists on staying with him. His life then spirals out of control.

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MichaelFassbender Creator/MichaelFassbender stars as Brandon Sullivan, a 30-something yuppie New Yorker suffering from sex addiction. Things only get worse for him when his little sister, Sissy (Creator/CareyMulligan), shows up and insists on staying with him. His life then spirals out of control.
30th Aug '14 6:55:21 AM Phoenixion
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* IncestSubtext: Brandon and Sissy's relationship is waaaaaaay open to interpretation.
** For example: Brandon takes Sissy's scarf and sniffs it after he discovers her in his apartment, they show little disgust at him seeing her naked, he straddles her in nothing but a towel after she catches him masturbating (The scene is ''very'' reminiscent of attempted rape, including Sissy's panicked reaction). He lovingly (and not in a brotherly way) watches her perform at a club. He also reacts to her having a sexual relationship with his boss as if he's jealous. Sissy also notes his odd behavior towards her in dialogue:
--> '''Sissy''': It's like I'm always making you angry, and I don't know why.
** The film gives almost no backstory on the characters, leaving it to the audience's imagination to fill it in. The question if actual incest happened, or AbusiveParents are to blame for how screwed up the siblings are, has caused [[FlameWar flame wars]] in even more distinguished film forums. Are they, perhaps, NotBloodSiblings?
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE2NuKD-U4g Let's not forget this moment]]. Despite they are in heated argument, it starts with Sissy resting her head on Brandon's shoulder. At some points, their faces are ''very'' close each other to the point that they could've just kissed anytime if they ever wanted it. Really, if they weren't siblings, the scene can be very easily mistaken as an argument between couple with AwfulWeddedLife.
7th Jul '14 6:20:10 AM AnoSa
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*** The latter in some ways makes perfect sense: hypersexuality can arise from borderline personality disorder, and one theory often ignored is that it's actually compulsive behavior, which can often look a lot like a drug addiction. Regardless of how accurate the addiction model actually is, it does work well for explaining to people why it's not necessarily fun.
25th Jun '14 3:12:31 AM Deckard
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** HollywoodPersonalityDisorder: Sissy has many traits that hint she may have borderline personality disorder, such as impulsiveness, clinginess, anger issues and self-harm. As well, she alternates between feeling affection for and conflicting with her brother. Most of these apply to him too, though, as well as hypersexuality (obviously).

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** HollywoodPersonalityDisorder: HollywoodPersonalityDisorders: Sissy has many traits that hint she may have borderline personality disorder, such as impulsiveness, clinginess, anger issues and self-harm. As well, she alternates between feeling affection for and conflicting with her brother. Most of these apply to him too, though, as well as hypersexuality (obviously).
25th Jun '14 3:10:48 AM Deckard
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* BookEnds: The scene of Brandon on the subway, wordlessly flirting with a married woman.



* DarkAndTroubledPast: Sissy has a history of tumultuous relationships and self-harm, and it's hinted she has attempted suicide before.



* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Brandon considering sleeping with a married woman he doesn't even know. Not only does it show he's a sex addict, it hints at the difficulty he has connecting with other people, especially romantically (which is why he fills the void with meaningless sex).



* {{Foreshadowing}} [[spoiler: / RedHerring]]: When Sissy first takes the metro with Brandon, she's awfully close to the edge of the platform and Brandon grabs her, prompting her not to do something silly (such as committing suicide). At the end of the movie, [[spoiler: Brandon's train gets stopped a few meters before reaching the end of its platform by person throwing themselves under its wheels (and the train gets evacuated for 'police investigation', with firemen et all). We get a very moving sequence in which Brandon realizes his sister probably was under the train, and he rushes to his home, expecting to find a goodbye note from her. He finds her instead. She was attempting suicide alright, but had chosen a different, slower method.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}} [[spoiler: / RedHerring]]: When Sissy first takes the metro with Brandon, she's awfully close to the edge of the platform and Brandon grabs her, prompting her not to do something silly (such as committing suicide). At the end of the movie, [[spoiler: Brandon's train gets stopped a few meters before reaching the end of its platform by person throwing themselves under its wheels (and the train gets evacuated for 'police investigation', with firemen et all).al). We get a very moving sequence in which Brandon realizes his sister probably was under the train, and he rushes to his home, expecting to find a goodbye note from her. He finds her instead. She was attempting suicide alright, but had chosen a different, slower method.]]


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* FriendsRentControl: Even for a guy with a high-paying white-collar job, Brandon has a pretty spacious apartment considering he lives in Manhattan.
* HollywoodPsych: It's debatable whether sex addiction is a real disorder, or at least whether it's really an addiction or just an impulse control problem. The film portrays it more like a drug addiction, with Brandon spending large amounts of money on his habit, putting a lot of effort into hiding and denying it, and becoming increasingly desperate when he can't indulge it (see AnythingThatMoves).
** HollywoodPersonalityDisorder: Sissy has many traits that hint she may have borderline personality disorder, such as impulsiveness, clinginess, anger issues and self-harm. As well, she alternates between feeling affection for and conflicting with her brother. Most of these apply to him too, though, as well as hypersexuality (obviously).


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* ItsAllJunk: Brandon has a breakdown after Sissy finds out about the extent of his porn addiction, including paying for camgirls, and throws out all his porn (including his laptop). It doesn't seem to help, because he's back out trawling for sex with prostitutes soon after.


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* NiceHat: Sissy has a bold red hat which she wears with a [[PrettyInMink fur coat]].


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* RRatedOpening: One of the first scenes has Brandon walking around his apartment naked, so...


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* ShamelessFanserviceGirl: Brandon [[ShowerOfAwkward walks in on Sissy in the shower]] and he (and the audience) sees all of her. She doesn't seem to care very much, [[PleasePutSomeClothesOn though he does]].
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