History Film / Elizabeth

24th Jun '17 3:29:11 PM Mesmiranda
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** Which makes it another case of [[HollywoodHistory Hollywood History]]: Elizabeth (rather famously) had her mother Anne's dark brown eyes. They're visible in nearly every single portrait painted of the Queen.
24th May '17 6:14:46 PM Fireblood
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Good God, where to begin? WordOfGod states that their original intent was to make a film about a conspiracy in Elizabeth's court, rather than an accurate biopic.
** William Cecil was not even forty by the time Elizabeth came to the throne, and she did not retire him by making him Lord Burghley: she ennobled him as a reward for his services and he remained her most loyal advisor until his death a few years before the queen's. Similarly, Francis Walsingham was only a few years older than Elizabeth. In the second film, Elizabeth visits him when he is dying. In real life she simply let him die in poverty and didn't go to see him.
** Henri of Anjou was probably not a crossdresser and he wasn't homosexual - the number of his ''female'' mistresses is almost uncountable; in addition, he and Elizabeth never met. Also, his aunt Mary of Guise died of dropsy (in June 1560, after realizing she had it the previous ''April'') rather than any foul play; this was confirmed by autopsy the day after her death. It is highly unlikely that the two of them were in a sexual relationship.
*** Nor was Mary of Guise his aunt, or related to him by blood - her daughter [[UsefulNotes/MaryOfScotland Mary I of Scotland]] was married to Henri's eldest brother, Francis II of France (married from 1558 until his death in 1560 - ''childless'', in fact); in fact, Henri's family, the House of Valois, were long-time rivals with Mary's House of Guise, and Henri never even ''met'' Mary of Guise in his lifetime.
*** He is also a CompositeCharacter: in RealLife, Elizabeth's French suitor was his ''younger brother'', Hercule Francis, who ''became'' Duke of Anjou - but not until 1576. Henri became King Henri III of France after their brother, Charles IX died in 1574, and the duchy of Anjou went to Francis as a result. He courted Elizabeth in 1579, when he was 24 and she 46 (and still capable of bearing children). Although this didn't pan out due to the complex politics of the time (and fear that Elizabeth would be at risk if she tried to bear children at her age), she was by all accounts genuinely fond of him despite the age gap, and the match was given far more serious consideration than the film depicts (even reaching an actual betrothal at one point).
** Mary I was actually very skinny rather than overweight in the film and Norfolk was a weak and easily-manipulated man rather than the film's powerful and scheming counterpart. Mary's tumour also killed her 3 years after the phantom pregnancy.
** Elizabeth knew that Leicester was already married ''because she had attended his wedding'' - his second, that is, the first wife died under suspicious circumstances (and Elizabeth knew of her as well). Moreover, he wasn't banished for being involved in a Catholic plot (because he was a Puritan) but instead because of a scandal over the mysterious death of his second wife.
** Bishop Stephen Gardiner died before Elizabeth came to the throne and thus could not possibly have been involved in any plots. The Earl of Arundel was not executed for his role but was instead imprisoned in the Tower of London where he died as a prisoner and the Earl of Sussex was actually a loyal supporter of Elizabeth who would not have tried to overthrow her.
** Elizabeth may not have actually had a sexual encounter with the Earl of Leicester and she did not cut her hair to show that she was a virgin. The wig is thought to have been to hide her greying hair and the white make-up to hide scars she got from smallpox.
** Throughout the film, bishops are shown wearing black mitres that they never would have worn in real life.
** Elizabeth reprimands one of her council members for divorcing twice. In reality, it was more or less impossible to obtain a divorce at this time - something that Elizabeth's father, Henry VIII, knew very well.
** At the start of the film, the execution of Nicholas Ridley is shown with two other people, of which one must be Hugh Latimer. However, their companion, an unnamed woman, is made up because Ridley and Latimer weren't burnt with anyone else.
** Sir Thomas Elyot is beaten to death with a rock and drowned by Ballard for being a ReverseMole. However, the real Elyot died at his estates in Cambridgeshire ''in 1546''. He was also in his fifties.
** In the second film, Elizabeth frequently consults Dr. John Dee over various matters. However, Dee was abroad at this time and didn't return to England until more than a year after the Spanish Armada.
** In the second film, nearly everything that Walter Raleigh does was actually done by Sir Francis Drake. Raleigh was kept in England when the Armada attacked because the Queen did not want him to be killed. Defeating the Armada was Drake's moment of triumph but he is hardly in the film.
** The Earl of Nottingham states that the Spanish Armada have destroyed several English ships. In reality the English didn't lose a single ship.
** Philip II of Spain is shown as a hunched and shadowy figure with a dark beard who is an incompetent king and a religious fanatic. The real Philip was known as being highly intelligent and had several successes with his foreign policies. He was also tall, blond and handsome.
** The Infanta of Spain was not a child at the time of the Armada but was in fact twenty-one.
** Sir Walter Raleigh was not knighted to keep him in England but to reward his services. He was also knighted on his ship and not against his will. Also, although Raleigh ''was'' imprisoned by Elizabeth, it didn't happen until several years after the Armada.
** Raleigh was not a pirate, Drake was.
** Mary, Queen of Scots's gaoler, Amyas Paulet, actually treated her rather well.
** Walter Raleigh quite famously had a strong West Country accent that meant some courtiers had difficulty understanding him. Francis Drake also had the same accent. In the second film, Mary, Queen of Scots is portrayed with a Scottish accent, when she would have had a French one as a result of living in France for years since she was a child.
** Frequently men at court are shown wearing long cloaks and carrying swords in the Queen's presence. Swords weren't allowed in court and the real Elizabeth actually banned long cloaks in case an assassin was hiding a weapon under it.
** At one point a man is hanged using the 'long drop' method with a trapdoor. This method of execution was not invented until the Nineteenth Century.
** Raleigh did not have an affair with Bess Throckmorton until three years after the defeat of the Spanish Armada.
** The film ends with the captions "Elizabeth reigned for another 40 years" (her full reign was almost 45, so the movie crams almost 20 years of anachronistic history into just under 5); "Walsingham remained her most trusted and loyal advisor to the end" (VERY arguable, as the likes of Dudley and Cecil probably have better claims) and "She never married and never saw Dudley in private again" (she and Dudley remained close friends until his death, so this is an outright lie).



* HollywoodHistory: Good God, where to begin? WordOfGod states that their original intent was to make a film about a conspiracy in Elizabeth's court, rather than an accurate biopic.
** William Cecil was not even forty by the time Elizabeth came to the throne, and she did not retire him by making him Lord Burghley: she ennobled him as a reward for his services and he remained her most loyal advisor until his death a few years before the queen's. Similarly, Francis Walsingham was only a few years older than Elizabeth. In the second film, Elizabeth visits him when he is dying. In real life she simply let him die in poverty and didn't go to see him.
** Henri of Anjou was probably not a crossdresser and he wasn't homosexual - the number of his ''female'' mistresses is almost uncountable; in addition, he and Elizabeth never met. Also, his aunt Mary of Guise died of dropsy (in June 1560, after realizing she had it the previous ''April'') rather than any foul play; this was confirmed by autopsy the day after her death. It is highly unlikely that the two of them were in a sexual relationship.
*** Nor was Mary of Guise his aunt, or related to him by blood - her daughter [[UsefulNotes/MaryOfScotland Mary I of Scotland]] was married to Henri's eldest brother, Francis II of France (married from 1558 until his death in 1560 - ''childless'', in fact); in fact, Henri's family, the House of Valois, were long-time rivals with Mary's House of Guise, and Henri never even ''met'' Mary of Guise in his lifetime.
*** He is also a CompositeCharacter: in RealLife, Elizabeth's French suitor was his ''younger brother'', Hercule Francis, who ''became'' Duke of Anjou - but not until 1576. Henri became King Henri III of France after their brother, Charles IX died in 1574, and the duchy of Anjou went to Francis as a result. He courted Elizabeth in 1579, when he was 24 and she 46 (and still capable of bearing children). Although this didn't pan out due to the complex politics of the time (and fear that Elizabeth would be at risk if she tried to bear children at her age), she was by all accounts genuinely fond of him despite the age gap, and the match was given far more serious consideration than the film depicts (even reaching an actual betrothal at one point).
** Mary I was actually very skinny rather than overweight in the film and Norfolk was a weak and easily-manipulated man rather than the film's powerful and scheming counterpart. Mary's tumour also killed her 3 years after the phantom pregnancy.
** Elizabeth knew that Leicester was already married ''because she had attended his wedding'' - his second, that is, the first wife died under suspicious circumstances (and Elizabeth knew of her as well). Moreover, he wasn't banished for being involved in a Catholic plot (because he was a Puritan) but instead because of a scandal over the mysterious death of his second wife.
** Bishop Stephen Gardiner died before Elizabeth came to the throne and thus could not possibly have been involved in any plots. The Earl of Arundel was not executed for his role but was instead imprisoned in the Tower of London where he died as a prisoner and the Earl of Sussex was actually a loyal supporter of Elizabeth who would not have tried to overthrow her.
** Elizabeth may not have actually had a sexual encounter with the Earl of Leicester and she did not cut her hair to show that she was a virgin. The wig is thought to have been to hide her greying hair and the white make-up to hide scars she got from smallpox.
** Throughout the film, bishops are shown wearing black mitres that they never would have worn in real life.
** Elizabeth reprimands one of her council members for divorcing twice. In reality, it was more or less impossible to obtain a divorce at this time - something that Elizabeth's father, Henry VIII, knew very well.
** At the start of the film, the execution of Nicholas Ridley is shown with two other people, of which one must be Hugh Latimer. However, their companion, an unnamed woman, is made up because Ridley and Latimer weren't burnt with anyone else.
** Sir Thomas Elyot is beaten to death with a rock and drowned by Ballard for being a ReverseMole. However, the real Elyot died at his estates in Cambridgeshire ''in 1546''. He was also in his fifties.
** In the second film, Elizabeth frequently consults Dr. John Dee over various matters. However, Dee was abroad at this time and didn't return to England until more than a year after the Spanish Armada.
** In the second film, nearly everything that Walter Raleigh does was actually done by Sir Francis Drake. Raleigh was kept in England when the Armada attacked because the Queen did not want him to be killed. Defeating the Armada was Drake's moment of triumph but he is hardly in the film.
** The Earl of Nottingham states that the Spanish Armada have destroyed several English ships. In reality the English didn't lose a single ship.
** Philip II of Spain is shown as a hunched and shadowy figure with a dark beard who is an incompetent king and a religious fanatic. The real Philip was known as being highly intelligent and had several successes with his foreign policies. He was also tall, blond and handsome.
** The Infanta of Spain was not a child at the time of the Armada but was in fact twenty-one.
** Sir Walter Raleigh was not knighted to keep him in England but to reward his services. He was also knighted on his ship and not against his will. Also, although Raleigh ''was'' imprisoned by Elizabeth, it didn't happen until several years after the Armada.
** Raleigh was not a pirate, Drake was.
** Mary, Queen of Scots's gaoler, Amyas Paulet, actually treated her rather well.
** Walter Raleigh quite famously had a strong West Country accent that meant some courtiers had difficulty understanding him. Francis Drake also had the same accent. In the second film, Mary, Queen of Scots is portrayed with a Scottish accent, when she would have had a French one as a result of living in France for years since she was a child.
** Frequently men at court are shown wearing long cloaks and carrying swords in the Queen's presence. Swords weren't allowed in court and the real Elizabeth actually banned long cloaks in case an assassin was hiding a weapon under it.
** At one point a man is hanged using the 'long drop' method with a trapdoor. This method of execution was not invented until the Nineteenth Century.
** Raleigh did not have an affair with Bess Throckmorton until three years after the defeat of the Spanish Armada.
** The film ends with the captions "Elizabeth reigned for another 40 years" (her full reign was almost 45, so the movie crams almost 20 years of anachronistic history into just under 5); "Walsingham remained her most trusted and loyal advisor to the end" (VERY arguable, as the likes of Dudley and Cecil probably have better claims) and "She never married and never saw Dudley in private again" (she and Dudley remained close friends until his death, so this is an outright lie).
24th May '17 5:01:15 PM Fireblood
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* EvilJesuit: The Jesuits in the film are portrayed as brutal assassins sent to murder Elizabeth.
23rd May '17 11:16:33 AM Fireblood
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* LadyMacBeth: On the protagonist side. [[spoiler: Lettice Howard]] is implied to have given Walsingham the information necessary to implicate [[spoiler: Norfolk in the plot to assassinate the Queen]]
* LadyOfWar: Elizabeth wears an armor and gives a RousingSpeech to her troops in the sequel.

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* LadyMacBeth: On the protagonist side. [[spoiler: Lettice Howard]] is implied to have given Walsingham the information necessary to implicate [[spoiler: Norfolk in the plot to assassinate the Queen]]
Queen]].
* LadyOfWar: Elizabeth wears an armor and gives a RousingSpeech to her troops in the sequel.



* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning: Subverted

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* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning: SubvertedSubverted.



* NervesOfSteel: Elizabeth in part 2 faced down an assassin who loses his nerve first. It's only afterward does she faint.
* OminousLatinChanting: Done several times in the film's soundtrack. Makes one wondering about the actual intentions of the creator as these are actual Catholic liturgic texts--in a film about a Protestant queen.

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* NervesOfSteel: Elizabeth in part 2 faced faces down an assassin who loses his nerve first. It's only afterward does that she faint.
faints.
* OminousLatinChanting: Done several times in the film's soundtrack. Makes It makes one wondering wonder about the actual intentions of the creator as these are actual Catholic liturgic texts--in a film about a Protestant queen.



* TokenGoodTeammate: The Earl of Arundel from the first film. He bore The Queen no ill will but was devoutly Catholic.

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* TokenGoodTeammate: The Earl of Arundel from the first film. He bore The the Queen no ill will but was devoutly Catholic.



* WomanInWhite: Elizabeth twice, notably at the end and as well when she is taken into the Tower for questioning. That one is actually historically true as Elizabeth is recorded to be wearing a pure white gown when being questioned.

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* WomanInWhite: Elizabeth twice, notably at the end and as well when she is taken into the Tower for questioning. That one is actually historically true as Elizabeth is recorded to be as wearing a pure white gown when being questioned.
23rd May '17 10:50:23 AM Fireblood
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** William Cecil was not even fourty by the time Elizabeth came to the throne, and she did not retire him by making him Lord Burghley: she ennobled him as a reward for his services and he remained her most loyal advisor until his death a few years before the queen's. Similarly, Francis Walsingham was only a few years older than Elizabeth. In the second film, Elizabeth visits him when he is dying. In real life she simply let him die in poverty and didn't go to see him.

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** William Cecil was not even fourty forty by the time Elizabeth came to the throne, and she did not retire him by making him Lord Burghley: she ennobled him as a reward for his services and he remained her most loyal advisor until his death a few years before the queen's. Similarly, Francis Walsingham was only a few years older than Elizabeth. In the second film, Elizabeth visits him when he is dying. In real life she simply let him die in poverty and didn't go to see him.



*** He is also a CompositeCharacter: in RealLife, Elizabeth's French suitor was his ''younger brother'', Hercule Francis, who ''became'' Duke of Anjou - but not until 1576. Henri became King Henri III of France after their brother, Charles IX died in 1574, and the duchy of Anjou went to Francis as a result. He courted Elizabeth in 1579, when he was 24 and 46 (and still capable of bearing children). Although this didn't pan out due to the complex politics of the time (and fear that Elizabeth would be at risk if she tried to bear children at her age), she was by all accounts genuinely fond of him despite the age gap, and the match was given far more serious consideration than the film depicts (even reaching an actual betrothal at one point).

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*** He is also a CompositeCharacter: in RealLife, Elizabeth's French suitor was his ''younger brother'', Hercule Francis, who ''became'' Duke of Anjou - but not until 1576. Henri became King Henri III of France after their brother, Charles IX died in 1574, and the duchy of Anjou went to Francis as a result. He courted Elizabeth in 1579, when he was 24 and she 46 (and still capable of bearing children). Although this didn't pan out due to the complex politics of the time (and fear that Elizabeth would be at risk if she tried to bear children at her age), she was by all accounts genuinely fond of him despite the age gap, and the match was given far more serious consideration than the film depicts (even reaching an actual betrothal at one point).



** At the start of the film, the execution of Nicholas Ridley is shown with two other people of which one must be Hugh Latimer. However, their companion, an unnamed woman, is made up because Ridley and Latimer weren't burnt with anyone else.
** Sir Thomas Elyot is beaten to death with a rock and drowned by Ballard for being a ReverseMole. However, the real Elyot died at his estates in Cambridgeshire ''in 1546''.
** In the second film, Elizabeth frequently consults Dr John Dee over various matters. However, Dr Dee was abroad at this time and didn't return to England until more than a year after the Spanish Armada.

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** At the start of the film, the execution of Nicholas Ridley is shown with two other people people, of which one must be Hugh Latimer. However, their companion, an unnamed woman, is made up because Ridley and Latimer weren't burnt with anyone else.
** Sir Thomas Elyot is beaten to death with a rock and drowned by Ballard for being a ReverseMole. However, the real Elyot died at his estates in Cambridgeshire ''in 1546''.
1546''. He was also in his fifties.
** In the second film, Elizabeth frequently consults Dr Dr. John Dee over various matters. However, Dr Dee was abroad at this time and didn't return to England until more than a year after the Spanish Armada.



** Mary, Queen of Scots gaoler, Amyas Paulet, actually treated her rather well.
** Walter Raleigh quite famously had a strong West Country accent that meant some courtiers had difficulty understanding him. Francis drake also had the same accent. In the second film, Mary, Queen of Scots is portrayed with a Scottish accent when she would have had a French one as result of living in France for years since she was a child.

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** Mary, Queen of Scots Scots's gaoler, Amyas Paulet, actually treated her rather well.
** Walter Raleigh quite famously had a strong West Country accent that meant some courtiers had difficulty understanding him. Francis drake Drake also had the same accent. In the second film, Mary, Queen of Scots is portrayed with a Scottish accent accent, when she would have had a French one as a result of living in France for years since she was a child.
23rd May '17 10:27:57 AM Fireblood
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*** To be fair the first film makes specific mention of English Privateers. In fact they are even called Pirates - both by the Spanish ambassador and by the 'actor' playing the Privateer.
23rd May '17 10:22:00 AM Fireblood
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A 1998 {{Biopic}} of the early life of Queen UsefulNotes/ElizabethI of England starring Creator/CateBlanchett in the title role. Broke the usual "period piece" mould of English biographical pictures in that it was directed by an Indian, Shekhar Kapur, took a much more dramatic style of storytelling, and didn't shy away from ''some'' historical truths of the era, such as dirt, poverty, and torture.

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A 1998 {{Biopic}} of the early life of Queen UsefulNotes/ElizabethI of England starring Creator/CateBlanchett in the title role. Broke It broke the usual "period piece" mould of English biographical pictures in that it was directed by an Indian, Shekhar Kapur, took a much more dramatic style of storytelling, and didn't shy away from ''some'' historical truths of the era, such as dirt, poverty, and torture.



* AgeLift: Sir William Cecil, as noted under HollywoodHistory, was only 13 years older than Elizabeth. In the film he's in his fifties at least. On the flip side, Kat Ashley was much older than Elizabeth (31 years older, having acted as her governess and a surrogate mother since Elizabeth was 4 years old). She's portrayed to be similar in age to her.
** The Duke of Norfolk, Thomas Howard, was ''3 years younger'' than Elizabeth in RealLife as opposed to roughly a decade older (his age is unstated here, but Creator/ChristopherEccleston was roughly 34 when filming his part, and his character is depicted as being in his 30s). There ''may'' be some CompositeCharacter at play, here - Howard father ''would have'' been 41 when Elizabeth was crowned, but [[UsefulNotes/HenryVIII her dear old dad]] had him executed in early 1547; in turn, ''his'' father (the 3rd Duke of Norfolk, also named Thomas Howard) [[OutlivingOnesOffspring outlived him]], but only because ''his'' execution happened to be scheduled on ''the day that Henry VIII died''. Howard Snr. was released later that year, helped [[UsefulNotes/MaryTudor Mary I]] ascend after her half-brother Edward's death in 1553, and when he died in 1554 his grandson succeeded him as 4th Duke of Norfolk until his death in 15''72''.

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* AgeLift: Sir William Cecil, as noted under HollywoodHistory, was only 13 years older than Elizabeth. In the film he's in his fifties at least. On the flip side, Kat Ashley was much older than Elizabeth (31 years older, having acted as her governess and a surrogate mother since Elizabeth was 4 years old). She's Here she's portrayed to be similar in age to her.
** The Duke of Norfolk, Thomas Howard, was ''3 years younger'' than Elizabeth in RealLife as opposed to roughly a decade older (his age is unstated here, but Creator/ChristopherEccleston was roughly 34 when filming his part, and his character is depicted as being in his 30s). There ''may'' be some CompositeCharacter at play, here - Howard Howard's father ''would have'' been 41 when Elizabeth was crowned, but [[UsefulNotes/HenryVIII her dear old dad]] had him executed in early 1547; in turn, ''his'' father (the 3rd Duke of Norfolk, also named Thomas Howard) [[OutlivingOnesOffspring outlived him]], but only because ''his'' execution happened to be scheduled on ''the day that Henry VIII died''. Howard Snr. was released later that year, helped [[UsefulNotes/MaryTudor Mary I]] ascend after her half-brother Edward's death in 1553, and when he died in 1554 his grandson succeeded him as 4th Duke of Norfolk until his death in 15''72''.



-->'''Queen Elizabeth''': Go back to your rat hole! Tell Philip I fear neither him, nor his priests nor his armies. Tell him if he wants to shake his little fists at us we'll give him such a bite he's wish he had kept his hands in his pockets!

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-->'''Queen Elizabeth''': Go back to your rat hole! Tell Philip I fear neither him, nor his priests nor his armies. Tell him if he wants to shake his little fists at us we'll give him such a bite he's he'll wish he had kept his hands in his pockets!



* FrenchJerk: Elizabeth's French suitor, the Duc d'Anjou who embarrasses her publicly at their first meeting. Mary of Guise is the female version.

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* FrenchJerk: Elizabeth's French suitor, the Duc d'Anjou d'Anjou, who embarrasses her publicly at their first meeting. Mary of Guise is the female version.



** A subtle and arguable one, Elizabeth and Walsingham kneeling under a gigantic portrait of UsefulNotes/HenryVIII and wondering what he, her father, would have done, and if she'd ever live up to his reputation. The reputation of the man who had her mother beheaded so he could marry somebody else, routinely executed his closest advisers and allies, and possibly had as many as 10,000 people put to death during his reign.

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** A subtle and arguable one, one with Elizabeth and Walsingham kneeling under a gigantic portrait of UsefulNotes/HenryVIII and wondering what he, her father, would have done, and if she'd ever live up to his reputation. The reputation of the man who had her mother beheaded so he could marry somebody else, routinely executed his closest advisers and allies, and possibly had as many as 10,000 people put to death during his reign.
15th Jan '17 9:36:59 AM Mdumas43073
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-->-- '''Elizabeth'''.

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-->-- '''Elizabeth'''.

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'''Elizabeth'''
15th Jan '17 9:36:28 AM Mdumas43073
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Followed by a sequel, '''''Elizabeth: The Golden Age''''' with the same director and Cate Blanchett once again as the Virgin Queen.

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Followed by a 2007 sequel, '''''Elizabeth: ''Elizabeth: The Golden Age''''' Age'' with the same director and Cate Blanchett once again as the Virgin Queen.
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