History Fanfic / FrigidWindsAndBurningHearts

5th Sep '16 6:02:58 PM Theriocephalus
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* [[spoiler:FromACertainPointOfView: The history books aren't that far off from what really happened. However as chapter 13 reveals, this is apparently because '''''CELESTIA''''' was playing the role of Nightmare Moon as part of her smear campaign against the ideals of her own ''sister'' and those among the nobility, and possibly the peasantry who wanted Celestia to step down from her position of power.]]

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* [[spoiler:FromACertainPointOfView: The FromACertainPointOfView: [[spoiler:The history books aren't that far off from what really happened. However as chapter 13 reveals, this is apparently because '''''CELESTIA''''' was playing the role of Nightmare Moon as part of her smear campaign against the ideals of her own ''sister'' and those among the nobility, and possibly the peasantry who wanted Celestia to step down from her position of power.]]
14th Jul '16 2:50:46 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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14th Jul '16 2:49:49 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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''[[InformedAbility Maybe.]]''


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''[[InformedAbility ''[[InformedAttribute Maybe.]]''




* ALighterShadeOfGrey: Thanks to giving most of the screentime to Luna and having Celestia's side be primarily represented by the {{Jerkass}} Captain Braveheart, the story is heavily on Luna's side for most of the duration.



* [[GoodSmokingEvilSmoking Evil Smoking]]: Captain Braveheart, the callous and [[SmugSnake snide]] commander of the Royal Guard, has a cigar dangling "grotesquely" from his mouth, and wastes no time establishing himself as an utter {{Jerkass}}.
* [[EvilVersusEvil Evil Versus Douchebag]]: Braveheart's "court martial" by Prince Blueblood in Chapter 8. The reader has a hard time deciding who to root for.

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* [[GoodSmokingEvilSmoking Evil Smoking]]: Captain Braveheart, the callous and [[SmugSnake snide]] commander of the Royal Guard, has a cigar dangling "grotesquely" from his mouth, and wastes no time establishing himself as an utter {{Jerkass}}.
* [[EvilVersusEvil Evil Versus Douchebag]]:
EvilVersusEvil: Braveheart's "court martial" by Prince Blueblood in Chapter 8. The reader has a hard time deciding who to root for.



* [[GodEmperor Goddess Empress]]: Celestia is the quintessential example, Luna far less so.
* GoneHorriblyRight: Celestia raised Ajax with the intent of making him an excellent soldier (and also to be friends with him). He wound up becoming a [[BloodKnight bloodthirsty]] [[KnightTemplar knight templar]], ultimately causing the Lunar forces to surrender due to his barbarism. Even after a peace treaty was signed, Ajax wiped out a griffon village, which finally caused Celestia to banish him to the Everfree Forest, where he stayed until he was woken up by Rainbow Dash's sonic rainboom.

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* [[GodEmperor Goddess Empress]]: GodEmpress: Celestia is the quintessential example, Luna far less so.
* GoneHorriblyRight: Celestia raised Ajax with the intent of making him an excellent soldier (and also to be friends with him). He wound up becoming a [[BloodKnight bloodthirsty]] [[KnightTemplar knight templar]], ultimately causing the Lunar forces to surrender due to his barbarism. Even after a peace treaty was signed, Ajax wiped out a griffon village, which finally caused Celestia to banish him to the Everfree Forest, where he stayed until he was woken up by Rainbow Dash's sonic rainboom.rainbow.
* GoodSmokingEvilSmoking: Captain Braveheart, the callous and [[SmugSnake snide]] commander of the Royal Guard, has a cigar dangling "grotesquely" from his mouth, and wastes no time establishing himself as an utter {{Jerkass}}.



** ALighterShadeOfGrey: However, thanks to giving most of the screentime to Luna and having Celestia's side be primarily represented by the {{Jerkass}} Captain Braveheart, the story is heavily on Luna's side for most of the duration.



* [[spoiler: HeroKiller: Ajax, who takes out Braveheart and Philomena. Of course, Braveheart's heroism is YMMV, and Philomena's a phoenix.]]

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* [[spoiler: HeroKiller: [[spoiler: Ajax, who takes out Braveheart and Philomena. Of course, Braveheart's heroism is YMMV, and Philomena's a phoenix.]]



** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that she assumed the general populace would eventually overthrow them and find a better way to govern themselves. Presumably through democracy. She even [[spoiler: says as much in the flashback when we see the events that lead to her banishment.]]
*** [[spoiler: Of course she's still a hypocrites, as she doesn't really care what the general populace wants or what happens to them.]]
* InformedAbility: The story attempts to give us [[RonTheDeathEater a darker, more manipulative Celestia]] though [[WellIntentionedExtremist one who wishes to protect Equestria]] while making Luna someone who tried to fight against her sister's rule but suffered from her own flaws. Unfortunately, this story has gained a great deal of notoriety for ''claiming'' to be a lot more even-handed than it actually ''is''. Celestia never gets to speak in her defense; she's absent after the first chapter. Luna's flaws are never presented for the reader, at least not without an immediate argument in her defense. As a result, it started coming across as a bog-standard Tyrant!Celestia story.

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** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that she assumed the general populace would eventually overthrow them and find a better way to govern themselves. Presumably through democracy. She even [[spoiler: says as much in the flashback when we see the events that lead to her banishment.]]
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banishment]]. [[spoiler: Of course she's still a hypocrites, hypocrite, as she doesn't really care what the general populace wants or what happens to them.]]
* InformedAbility: InformedAttribute: The story attempts to give us [[RonTheDeathEater a darker, more manipulative Celestia]] though [[WellIntentionedExtremist one who wishes to protect Equestria]] while making Luna someone who tried to fight against her sister's rule but suffered from her own flaws. Unfortunately, this story has gained a great deal of notoriety for ''claiming'' to be a lot more even-handed than it actually ''is''. Celestia never gets to speak in her defense; she's absent after the first chapter. Luna's flaws are never presented for the reader, at least not without an immediate argument in her defense. As a result, it started coming across as a bog-standard Tyrant!Celestia story.



** Chapter Ten is built on it.

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** %%** Chapter Ten is built on it.



* [[spoiler: KilledOffForReal: Philomena, at Ajax's hand. Being a phoenix, [[UnexplainedRecovery she presumably got better quickly, such being the only explanation for why seemingly no one cared it happened.]]]]

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* [[spoiler: KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Philomena, at Ajax's hand. Being a phoenix, [[UnexplainedRecovery she presumably got better quickly, such being the only explanation for why seemingly no one cared it happened.]]]]



* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: In Chapter Ten, a wounded Lt. Nightshade flies more quickly than a healthy Rainbow Dash. This could be seen to double as an [[UnfortunateImplications unfortunate implication]], being an instance of a male character easily upstaging one of the canonical female main characters.
** The character whose defining trait is her speed, no less.
** However, given that ''Fluttershy'' has been show in canon as being able to catch up to Rainbow going at those same speeds may justify this ability. We've also seen another character in the series, Lightning Dust, who can attain similar speeds and can race neck and neck with Rainbow. If anything, Nightshade being able to attain these speeds ''averts'' the unfortunate implications, as the only two characters in the series canon to reach speeds of that magnitude thus far— aside from Rainbow herself— have been ''female'', which might indicate that nobody male in the series is capable of it, which has unfortunate implications of its own.

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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: In Chapter Ten, a wounded Lt. Nightshade flies more quickly than a healthy Rainbow Dash. This could be seen to double as an [[UnfortunateImplications unfortunate implication]], being an instance of a male character easily upstaging one of the canonical female main characters.
**
The character whose defining trait is her speed, no less.
** However, given that ''Fluttershy'' has been show in canon as being able to catch up to Rainbow going at those same speeds may justify this ability. We've also seen another character in the series, Lightning Dust, who can attain similar speeds and can race neck and neck with Rainbow. If anything, Nightshade being able to attain these speeds ''averts'' the unfortunate implications, as the only two characters in the series canon to reach speeds of that magnitude thus far— aside from Rainbow herself— have been ''female'', which might indicate that nobody male in the series is capable of it, which has unfortunate implications of its own.
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* PayEvilUntoEvil: The reason why Braveheart acts like this.



* PoliceBrutality: Braveheart's preferred methodology: storm in, tear everything apart, and threaten anyone who protests with trumped-up charges of conspiracy that 'justify' his beating them into compliance, all in the name of Princess Celestia.



* [[ThePrince The Princess]]: In the story it is a suppressed book written by one of Celestia's past students detailing the Princess's political philosophy and methodology.

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* [[ThePrince The Princess]]: Literature/ThePrince: In the story it is a suppressed book written by one of Celestia's past students detailing the Princess's political philosophy and methodology.



* [[PoliceBrutality Royal Guard Brutality]]: Braveheart's preferred methodology: storm in, tear everything apart, and threaten anyone who protests with trumped-up charges of conspiracy that 'justify' his beating them into compliance, all in the name of Princess Celestia.



** PayEvilUntoEvil: The Reason why he acts like this.



* [[spoiler: ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: Ajax kills Braveheart by scorching him with his fire, and then slowly crushing every bone in his body. However, it still takes awhile for him to actually die.]]
* Retcon: The reedited version changes a lot. Ex Braveheart and the guards act far more like a professional police force than armed thugs in the original.

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* [[spoiler: ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: [[spoiler: Ajax kills Braveheart by scorching him with his fire, and then slowly crushing every bone in his body. However, it still takes awhile for him to actually die.]]
* Retcon: {{Retcon}}: The reedited version changes a lot. Ex Braveheart and the guards act far more like a professional police force than armed thugs in the original.



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Prince Blueblood, already disliked after his showing at the canonical [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver Grand Galloping Gala]], is responsible here for informing Princess Luna ''precisely'' how she's been painted in the public eye, out of [[HanlonsRazor both idiocy]] ''[[HanlonsRazor and]]'' [[HanlonsRazor malice]].

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Prince Blueblood, already disliked after his showing at the canonical [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E26TheBestNightEver Grand Galloping Gala]], Blueblood is responsible here for informing Princess Luna ''precisely'' how she's been painted in the public eye, out of [[HanlonsRazor both idiocy]] ''[[HanlonsRazor and]]'' [[HanlonsRazor malice]].



* [[WhatTheHellHero What The Hell, Celly?]]: Luna does not approve of how Celestia has handled things thus far.

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* [[WhatTheHellHero What The Hell, Celly?]]: WhatTheHellHero: Luna does not approve of how Celestia has handled things thus far.



* WrittenByTheWinners

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* %%* WrittenByTheWinners
2nd Jan '15 1:57:22 PM Warwolf
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** However, given that ''Fluttershy'' has been show in canon as being able to catch up to Rainbow going at those same speeds may justify this ability. We've also seen another character in the series, Lightning Dust, who can attain similar speeds and can race neck and neck with Rainbow. If anything, Nightshade being able to attain these speeds ''averts'' the unfortunate implications, as the only two characters in the series canon to reach speeds of that magnitude thus far— aside from Rainbow herself— have been ''female'', which might indicate that nobody male in the series is capable of it, which has unfortunate implications of its own.
25th Mar '13 9:47:03 AM Austin
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* BrokenAesop: The author has stated that two of the major themes of the story are that neither of the Princesses are wholly right or wrong, and that it is the responsibility of an individual to face the consequences of their past actions. It hasn’t really held up terribly well as the story has worn on.
** Celestia’s actions have increasingly seemed those of a stereotypical Machiavellian despot, clinging to power through any means necessary. The nobles of her court remain the decadent would-be tyrants they’ve always been. Her fanatically loyal guard’s behavior towards her subjects is less that of a policing body or defensive army, and more that of a hostile occupying force. Her former right-hand man is a murderously insane dragon who was abandoned once his usefulness expired. [[spoiler: Actually, chapter 14 reveals Celestia banished him to the Everfree Forest due to his barbarism]].
** During the middle portion of the story as it currently stands, it was revealed that Luna was not the wronged innocent she had initially portrayed herself as. Her plan to leave Equestria was born of her own desire to be free of the responsibility and frustration of governing its inhabitants. The nobles who had backed her merely wanted to seize power and enslave the lower classes, and Luna herself was fully aware of it. Despite casting aspersions upon Celestia for the bloody civil war she fought to retain control, Luna justified her attempt at selling the masses into servitude by predicting that they would eventually win their freedom through violent revolution. While she did briefly seem to regret her past actions and recognize her own role in the missteps of the past, it doesn’t seem to have taken. The reservations about her own beliefs acquired in earlier chapters are tossed aside with ease, accompanied by a mental noting that Celestia’s methods and philosophies have proven themselves useless. Her ancient adviser and confidant Morning Star, introduced as a self-serving manipulator and mastermind of the attempted coup, has been revised as a benevolent reformer whose proposals are recognized as flawless even by those who hear them second-hand and lack any knowledge of the matters involved.


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* [[EvilVersusEvil Evil Versus Douchebag]]: Braveheart's "court martial" by Prince Blueblood in Chapter 8. The reader has a hard time deciding who to root for.
** Braveheart vs Ajax. [[spoiler: Ajax mortally wounds him by frying and savagely crushing him, though Braveheart manages to cut holes in his wings and stab him in the chest]].
* FantasticRacism: The pegasus Braveheart dislikes unicorns.


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* InformedAbility: The story attempts to give us [[RonTheDeathEater a darker, more manipulative Celestia]] though [[WellIntentionedExtremist one who wishes to protect Equestria]] while making Luna someone who tried to fight against her sister's rule but suffered from her own flaws. Unfortunately, this story has gained a great deal of notoriety for ''claiming'' to be a lot more even-handed than it actually ''is''. Celestia never gets to speak in her defense; she's absent after the first chapter. Luna's flaws are never presented for the reader, at least not without an immediate argument in her defense. As a result, it started coming across as a bog-standard Tyrant!Celestia story.


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** Chapter Ten is built on it.
** On the way to the princesses' old castle, Applejack argues with Dash over her unreasonable loyalty to Luna, eventually deciding that she no longer trusts her judgment enough to continue following her sense of direction. She chooses one of the possible paths before them and leaves Dash behind, eventually finding that she has made the correct choice. As she celebrates, a sudden gust of wind snatches her hat away and deposits it at the entrance to a cave occupied by a giant spider. Somehow, this convinces her that she's been wrong all along, and that her view of Luna has been colored by irrational hatred and mortal hubris.
** Dash then catches up with her and defeats the spider, proving to her the need to forgive Luna for ever having doubted her.
** In what may be the only sound logic in the entire chapter, seeing Dash make an immediate recovery from the wounds sustained in the fight against the spider causes Applejack to realize that Luna's immortality has indeed been transferred. It doesn't last, however, as she immediately believes this to mean that everything the Princess has told them was truthful, and that she should join her friends in accepting her every word doubtlessly.


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* KarmaHoudini: In-universe, Princess Luna is viewed as one, for despite being 'saved' by the Elements of Harmony, [[spoiler:many innocents were killed in the stampedes and riots that occured during the temporary 'eternal night' she tried to lay upon the land. And these innocent victims -- including foals -- were ''not'' brought back to life after she was 'rescued']].
** Braveheart is shaping up to becoming one, although getting humiliated by Prince Blueblood in Chapter 8 comes the closest to bringing him down a peg.
*** As of chapter 11 he's EasilyForgiven, despite a major theme of the story is about how EasilyForgiven doesn't happen.
*** And as of chapter 13, he [[spoiler: finally meets his end after Ajax burns and crushes him. But while he technically pays for his crimes with his life and weeps when he realizes he's going to die without seeing Celestia or the sun again, everypony present seems to have changed their tune about him, so he's still EasilyForgiven]].


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* MostWritersAreHuman: A major problem some fans have with the story is that the writer injects human mindsets and beliefs into a world where there shouldn't be, such as sexism against women despite being a female dominated world.
** He also seems to have a hard time understanding the more supernatural elements of the show and BlueAndOrangeMorality. For example Discord is merely just an evil tyrant rather than a god of chaos who did everything ForTheLulz and Windigos are missing for his retelling of Equestria's founding.


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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: In Chapter Ten, a wounded Lt. Nightshade flies more quickly than a healthy Rainbow Dash. This could be seen to double as an [[UnfortunateImplications unfortunate implication]], being an instance of a male character easily upstaging one of the canonical female main characters.
** The character whose defining trait is her speed, no less.


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* SpotlightStealingSquad: A pretty decent chunk of the story focuses on Braveheart and his squad. He even more or less becomes the protagonist from the end of chapter 11 to the end of 13, [[spoiler: when he's killed off]]. Hoof, just take a look at how much the fic's trope articles mention him.
** To a point were the author apologized for spending so much of the story on them.
5th Feb '13 4:48:45 AM ManCalledTrue
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* AuthorVocabularyCalendar: Grey Prophet is ''addicted'' to the word "welkin" when describing the sky.
2nd Dec '12 2:39:32 PM Peteman
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Despite her 'redemption', Princess Luna isn't trusted by the public. Prince Blueblood exposes this ElephantInTheLivingRoom after she slights him.

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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Despite her 'redemption', Princess Luna isn't trusted by the public. Prince Blueblood exposes this ElephantInTheLivingRoom after she slights him.accidentally knocks a bowl of hot soup into his face.
2nd Dec '12 2:33:01 PM SeptimusHeap
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Despite her 'redemption', Princess Luna isn't trusted by the public. Prince Blueblood exposes this ElephantInTheLivingRoom after she slights him. [[ItGotWorse Things go downhill from there]].

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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Despite her 'redemption', Princess Luna isn't trusted by the public. Prince Blueblood exposes this ElephantInTheLivingRoom after she slights him. [[ItGotWorse Things go downhill from there]].
2nd Dec '12 2:20:12 PM SeptimusHeap
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* PoorCommunicationKills: Not only between the sisters, but in Chapter 2 Celestia's version of events only [[ItGotWorse complicates matters further]], as the Royal Guard assumes that Princess Luna has reverted to her evil ways and must be stopped [[WellIntentionedExtremist by any means necessary]]. Particularly since Celestia [[spoiler: has apparently vanished, and hasn't taken the time to raise the sun]]...

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* PoorCommunicationKills: Not only between the sisters, but in Chapter 2 Celestia's version of events only [[ItGotWorse complicates matters further]], further, as the Royal Guard assumes that Princess Luna has reverted to her evil ways and must be stopped [[WellIntentionedExtremist by any means necessary]]. Particularly since Celestia [[spoiler: has apparently vanished, and hasn't taken the time to raise the sun]]...
13th Nov '12 12:02:28 PM GoldenDragon326
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A ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfic.

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A ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfic. \n [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7037421/1/Frigid-Winds-and-Burning-Hearts Found right here.]]
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