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** Exhibit B, [[Main/AhMyGoddess Skuld]].
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** According to Lars, [[OhMyGoddess Keiichi Morisato]] could perform a GroinAttack on one of the Primarchs, and they still wouldn't mess with him. He also states that each of the four realms of Chaos would flat-out make him a ''celebrity'' for all the things he's done, and he wouldn't have to change ''anything'' about himself, because "you're ''that damned '''good.'''''"
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** According to Lars, [[OhMyGoddess [[Manga/AhMyGoddess Keiichi Morisato]] could perform a GroinAttack on one of the Primarchs, and they still wouldn't mess with him. He also states that each of the four realms of Chaos would flat-out make him a ''celebrity'' for all the things he's done, and he wouldn't have to change ''anything'' about himself, because "you're ''that damned '''good.'''''"
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* CreepyChild: [[spoiler:Gunnhild]]. Made out of a combination of [[spoiler:the accumulated evil of a soul eater that draws in ambient emotions spending a while in Hell, the daemon that spent that time in the AhMyGoddess Hell, the soul of a Drow cleric, and a hyperactive goddess.]] And she is both creepy and awesome. And likes practical surgery.
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* CreepyChild: [[spoiler:Gunnhild]]. Made out of a combination of [[spoiler:the accumulated evil of a soul eater that draws in ambient emotions spending a while in Hell, the daemon that spent that time in the AhMyGoddess Manga/AhMyGoddess Hell, the soul of a Drow cleric, and a hyperactive goddess.]] And she is both creepy and awesome. And likes practical surgery.
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* NormalFishInATinyPond: [=NeoChaos=] is a near perfect example of this, and openly states that they largely choose to visit universes where their abilities are to their advantage. In a less deliberate example, Lars is sent to the OhMyGoddess universe, where his origins give the local deities fits.
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* NormalFishInATinyPond: [=NeoChaos=] is a near perfect example of this, and openly states that they largely choose to visit universes where their abilities are to their advantage. In a less deliberate example, Lars is sent to the OhMyGoddess Manga/AhMyGoddess universe, where his origins give the local deities fits.
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* TheMario: The Sons of Toji explicitly describe themselves as drawing a balance between the specialisations of the other Space Marine chapters. Ashley also notes that her Eva lacks any real bells and whistles, leading her to [[spoiler:seek assistance from the ''new!BattlestarGalactica'' crew.]]
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* GambitPileup: What is happening in the ''ForgottenRealms'' universe. [[WordOfGod Word Of Academia Nut]] even linked to that article.
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* Main/ThirtyGambitPileup: What is happening in the ''ForgottenRealms'' universe. [[WordOfGod Word Of Academia Nut]] even linked to that article.
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* AwesomeByAnalysis: [[OhMyGoddess Keiichi Morisato,]] according to Lars. He makes a pretty good case for it, too.
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* BackFromTheDead: [[spoiler:[[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Alicia and Precia Testarossa]].]]
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* MoralityKitchenSink: Probably the best way to describe the morality in play here. New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' [[ImprobablyFemaleCast gir-]] people around there are also "white" factions.
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* MoralityKitchenSink: Probably the best way to describe the morality in play here. New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''LyricalNanoha'' [[ImprobablyFemaleCast gir-]] people around there are also "white" factions.
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** Ironically, this is what makes New!Chaos so much ''more'' reprehensible to many readers than their canon counterparts. Canon!Chaos's excuse for being evil is that they're essentially the UltimateEvil of the 40,000 'verse; they're ''expected'' to be irredeemable {{Complete Monster}}s, and they fulfill that expectation by CrossingTheLineTwice to become the ultimate symbols of violence, hatred and depravity. New!Chaos, on the other hand, doesn't cross that second line and doesn't get the moral immunity that comes with it; they're supposed to be humans, and the readers judge them like humans, and they've crossed so many {{Moral Event Horizon}}s that many readers call them the true villains of the series regardless of how much more evil the C'tan or Canon!Chaos are supposed to be (and it doesn't help matters ''at all'' that they frequently wind up fighting and curb-stomping pure white or light grey factions like [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the TSAB]] or [[StarTrek The Federation]]).
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** Ironically, this is what makes New!Chaos so much ''more'' reprehensible to many readers than their canon counterparts. Canon!Chaos's excuse for being evil is that they're essentially the UltimateEvil of the 40,000 'verse; they're ''expected'' to be irredeemable {{Complete Monster}}s, and they fulfill that expectation by CrossingTheLineTwice to become the ultimate symbols of violence, hatred and depravity. New!Chaos, on the other hand, doesn't cross that second line and doesn't get the moral immunity that comes with it; they're supposed to be humans, and the readers judge them like humans, and they've crossed so many {{Moral Event Horizon}}s that many readers call them the true villains of the series regardless of how much more evil the C'tan or Canon!Chaos are supposed to be (and it doesn't help matters ''at all'' that they frequently wind up fighting and curb-stomping pure white or light grey factions like [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha [[LyricalNanoha the TSAB]] or [[StarTrek The Federation]]).
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Quite a number of subplots, such as the ''{{Stargate SG-1}}'' or ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ones, were left untouched in a while when the hiatus dropped by.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Quite a number of subplots, such as the ''{{Stargate SG-1}}'' or ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''LyricalNanoha'' ones, were left untouched in a while when the hiatus dropped by.
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* MoralityKitchenSink: Probably the best way to describe the morality in play here. New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' [[PinkBishoujoGhetto gir-]] people around there are also "white" factions.
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* MoralityKitchenSink: Probably the best way to describe the morality in play here. New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' [[PinkBishoujoGhetto [[ImprobablyFemaleCast gir-]] people around there are also "white" factions.
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The Main/MegaCrossover sequel to ''FanFic/ThousandShinji'', ''[[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=123083 The Open Door]]'' ([[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4320933/1/The_Open_Door alternate FanFiction.Net link]]) takes place twenty five years after Thousand Shinji, after Earth has been unified and Canon 40K technology introduced. At the beginning, a "representative" of Tzintchi is sent to negotiate with Kyon in [[Main/SuzumiyaHaruhiNoYuuutsu Haruhi's universe]], the eponymous 'open door'. It goes on from there and gets progressively more CrazyAwesome as more and more universes are drawn into it via the new Chaos Gods' quest to defeat the Necrontyr and the C'tan.
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The Main/MegaCrossover sequel to ''FanFic/ThousandShinji'', ''[[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=123083 The Open Door]]'' ([[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4320933/1/The_Open_Door alternate FanFiction.Net link]]) takes place twenty five years after Thousand Shinji, after Earth has been unified and Canon 40K technology introduced. At the beginning, a "representative" of Tzintchi is sent to negotiate with Kyon in [[Main/SuzumiyaHaruhiNoYuuutsu [[Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi's universe]], the eponymous 'open door'. It goes on from there and gets progressively more CrazyAwesome as more and more universes are drawn into it via the new Chaos Gods' quest to defeat the Necrontyr and the C'tan.
* CultureJustifiesAnything: Alicia attempts to defend the soul-eating thing by citing differences in their cultures.
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* Main/GodModeSue: Our heroes draw dangerously close to this, due to their technological superiority and choice to "visit" only inferior universes. Could be considered deconstructed in the same way as ConservationOfNinjutsu above. Academia Nut has noted that if they ever ended up in the Gurren Lagann universe, they'd get their asses kicked in seconds.
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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Discussed. "Your Blood War can be summed up with the two most evil phrases my people know. .... You devils however have 'Because I had to' on yours."
** [[FridgeLogic So just evacuating to another universe wasn't an option, eh?]]
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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Discussed. "Your Blood War can be summed up with the two most evil phrases my people know. .... You devils however have 'Because I had to' on yours."
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** [[FridgeLogic So just
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* LoveItOrHateIt: One of the most polarizing fics in recent memory. The crux of the issue is New Chaos themselves and how they come across to the readers. Fans of the series point to their DangerouslyGenreSavvy tactics, frequently CrazyAwesome characters, and the sheer [[BeyondTheImpossible over-the-topness]] of the very premise (much less the execution) as reasons the series is awesome. Members of the hatedom, on the other hand, point to numerous well-liked characters to whom New Chaos has done some ''extremely'' objectionable things, which coupled with their apparent invincibility makes them look like [[GodModeSue God Mode]] {{Villain Sue}}s and {{Complete Monster}}s on top of that. More than a few fans have become diehard members of the {{Hatedom}} after a character they liked wound up on New Chaos's bad side and suffered greatly for it.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Marella crosses this when she [[spoiler:destroys Silverymoon]].
** The Praxis also cross this when the name of their flagship, the ''Bombardment of Delhi'', is introduced. The reason why? It's crewed by ''humans''.
** New Chaos may have crossed when they [[spoiler:brainwashed Vita into joining them.]] [[CompleteMonster Or at any number of points before or after that.]]
** The Praxis also cross this when the name of their flagship, the ''Bombardment of Delhi'', is introduced. The reason why? It's crewed by ''humans''.
** New Chaos may have crossed when they [[spoiler:brainwashed Vita into joining them.]] [[CompleteMonster Or at any number of points before or after that.]]
* NotSoInvincibleAfterAll: [[spoiler: Ashley and Scipio]] getting trashed by [[spoiler: simulated Necrontyr]] seems meant to be a big slap in the face of the "[=NeoChaos=] are utterly invincible" whiners.
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* ValuesDissonance: Alicia attempts to defend the soul-eating thing by citing differences in their cultures.
* VillainSue: Another possible outlook on the main characters. Academia Nut seems from time to time to be using the series as a thesis for an argument on [[EvilIsCool Why Chaos Is Awesome]]; the main characters walk all over nearly everyone they meet (both bad guys ''and'' good guys) and commit some [[MoralEventHorizon extremely objectionable acts]] in the name of their own survival. The only ones who [[WhatTheHellHero call them out on it]] tend to be the ones who get curbstomped and brainwashed into joining them, and at present time New Chaos [[KarmaHoudini doesn't seem likely to ever pay for their lengthy list of atrocities.]]
* VillainSue: Another possible outlook on the main characters. Academia Nut seems from time to time to be using the series as a thesis for an argument on [[EvilIsCool Why Chaos Is Awesome]]; the main characters walk all over nearly everyone they meet (both bad guys ''and'' good guys) and commit some [[MoralEventHorizon extremely objectionable acts]] in the name of their own survival. The only ones who [[WhatTheHellHero call them out on it]] tend to be the ones who get curbstomped and brainwashed into joining them, and at present time New Chaos [[KarmaHoudini doesn't seem likely to ever pay for their lengthy list of atrocities.]]
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* CrazyAwesome: Arguably neoChaos in general, but particularly Rong-Arya and the rest of the ''Stiletto'''s crew; see the JustAStupidAccent example.
* CreepyChild: [[spoiler: Gunnhild]]. Made out of a combination of [[spoiler: the accumulated evil of a soul eater that draws in ambient emotions spending a while in Hell, the daemon that spent that time in the AhMyGoddess Hell, the soul of a Drow cleric, and a hyperactive goddess.]] And she is both creepy and awesome. And likes practical surgery.
* SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome: There are many. Oh so very many.
* SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfFunny: Lars' exchange with Keiichi.
** As well as Lars and Skuld's exchange about making an Underdark version of the Marxist-Communist history.
* CreepyChild: [[spoiler: Gunnhild]]. Made out of a combination of [[spoiler: the accumulated evil of a soul eater that draws in ambient emotions spending a while in Hell, the daemon that spent that time in the AhMyGoddess Hell, the soul of a Drow cleric, and a hyperactive goddess.]] And she is both creepy and awesome. And likes practical surgery.
* SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome: There are many. Oh so very many.
* SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfFunny: Lars' exchange with Keiichi.
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** The Stiletto tanking [[BattleStarGalactica nBSG]] Cylon city-killer nukes even without its shields, slaughtering the invited boarding party and then [[spoiler: taking out two Resurrection Ships with a single shot]].
** When Lars got pissed, the Nesme Siege quickly turned into this. [[spoiler: Including Lars EATING three gods and forcing the gods to parlay out of raw terror]]. It was at this point that reviewers started getting unhappy.
** The battle with the Praxis is like this, culminating in [[{{Badass}} Rong-Arya]] [[spoiler: wiping out their entire civilization]]. With a [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome video]].
* TheDarkTimes: the [[spoiler: Extinction War]] definitely qualifies.
** When Lars got pissed, the Nesme Siege quickly turned into this. [[spoiler: Including Lars EATING three gods and forcing the gods to parlay out of raw terror]]. It was at this point that reviewers started getting unhappy.
** The battle with the Praxis is like this, culminating in [[{{Badass}} Rong-Arya]] [[spoiler: wiping out their entire civilization]]. With a [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome video]].
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** When Lars got pissed, the Nesme Siege quickly turned into this.[[spoiler: Including [[spoiler:Including Lars EATING three gods and forcing the gods to parlay out of raw terror]]. It was at this point that reviewers started getting unhappy.
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* Main/{{Expy}}: Academia Nut has said that [[spoiler: Washal the Pale's battlemech]] resembles "[[Main/BattleTech a combination of an Enforcer III and a Firestarter Omni]]". Also, the Whispered resemble the group of the same name from ''Main/FullMetalPanic'', amongst others.
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* Main/{{Expy}}: Academia Nut has said that [[spoiler: Washal [[spoiler:Washal the Pale's battlemech]] resembles "[[Main/BattleTech a combination of an Enforcer III and a Firestarter Omni]]". Also, the Whispered resemble the group of the same name from ''Main/FullMetalPanic'', amongst others.
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* HumongousMecha: [[spoiler: Washal the Pale]] appears in this to fight Marella's silverfire golem. It qualifies as his SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Oh, and did we forget to mention that New Chaos is now ''mass-producing'' Evangelions?
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* HumongousMecha: [[spoiler: Washal [[spoiler:Washal the Pale]] appears in this to fight Marella's silverfire golem. It qualifies as his SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Oh, and did we forget to mention that New Chaos is now ''mass-producing'' Evangelions?
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* MagnificentBastard: Tzintchi, definitely, but also Rong-Arya and a few others.
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* TheMario: The Sons of Toji explicitly describe themselves as drawing a balance between the specialisations of the other Space Marine chapters. Ashley also notes that her Eva lacks any real bells and whistles, leading her to [[spoiler: seek assistance from the ''new!BattlestarGalactica'' crew.]]
* MemeticBadass: Academia Nut makes an in-story argument for [[AhMyGoddess Keiichi Morisato]] being a {{Badass}}. Ya rly.
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* TheMario: The Sons of Toji explicitly describe themselves as drawing a balance between the specialisations of the other Space Marine chapters. Ashley also notes that her Eva lacks any real bells and whistles, leading her to [[spoiler: seek [[spoiler:seek assistance from the ''new!BattlestarGalactica'' crew.]]
* MemeticBadass: Academia Nut makes an in-story argument for [[AhMyGoddess Keiichi Morisato]] being a {{Badass}}. Ya rly.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Marella crosses this when she [[spoiler: destroys Silverymoon]].
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* RootingForTheEmpire: "People cheer for Darth Vader and he's pulled worse shit than me, but everyone lets him get away with that because he's the 'bad guy'." Of course, given the murkiness of morality in this story you may consider supporting [=newChaos=] to fit this too.
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* UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny: Half the fun. New!Chaos versus [[spoiler:the Borg]]/[[spoiler:SG-1's {{Big Bad}}s]]/[[spoiler:Cylons]]/[[spoiler:the DungeonsAndDragons pantheon]]? There's only one way to find out: '''''[[HarryHillsTVBurp FIIIGHT!!]]'''''
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* AbusivePrecursors: The House of the Lords of Time, ancestors of the [[DoctorWho Time Lords]], who created [[spoiler:canon 40k]].
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* MoralityKitchenSink: Probably the best way to describe the morality in play here. New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' [[strike:[[PinkBishoujoGhetto girls]]]] people around there are also "white" factions.
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* MoralityKitchenSink: Probably the best way to describe the morality in play here. New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' [[strike:[[PinkBishoujoGhetto girls]]]] [[PinkBishoujoGhetto gir-]] people around there are also "white" factions.
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** "We will not ''{{gattai}}'' the [[strike: Evas or their pilots]] the Eva and the Bolo, as such thoughts invariably lead [[strike: inevitably]] to transformation sequences."
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** "We will not ''{{gattai}}'' the [[strike: Evas or their pilots]] pilo- the Eva and the Bolo, as such thoughts invariably lead [[strike: inevitably]] to transformation sequences."
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* DidNotDoTheResearch: Nanoha's refusal to shoot Toji and risk killing Vita during their MexicanStandoff makes very little sense when one recalls that Nanoha canon labels the [[FanNickname White Devil]] as a master of nonlethal spellcasting.
** Read that scene again. Toji specifically holds Vita's unconscious and nearly dead form out to one of his subordinates, who points his very large, to Nanoha, gun at her head while explaining in very clear terms that if Nanoha fires, Vita's life is forfeit.
** Read that scene again. Toji specifically holds Vita's unconscious and nearly dead form out to one of his subordinates, who points his very large, to Nanoha, gun at her head while explaining in very clear terms that if Nanoha fires, Vita's life is forfeit.
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** When Q appears in his ready room, at first [[StarTrekTheNextGeneration Captain Picard]] is annoyed, thinking he's going to be put through another stupid test of humanity's character. Then he sees [[SarcasmFailure that Q doesn't have the same joking attitude he usually possesses during their encounters]]. Then he sees that Q is actually ''scared'', and he realizes that S%!#. Just. Got. Real.
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* Main/ThirtyXanatosPileup: What is happening in the ''ForgottenRealms'' universe. [[WordOfGod Word Of Academia Nut]] even linked to that article.
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* Main/ThirtyXanatosPileup: Main/ThirtyGambitPileup: What is happening in the ''ForgottenRealms'' universe. [[WordOfGod Word Of Academia Nut]] even linked to that article.
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* BlackAndGrayMorality: New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' [[strike:[[PinkBishoujoGhetto girls]]]] people around there are also "white" factions.
** Then again, 99% of all ''villains'' are saints compared to [[CompleteMonster canon]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice Chaos]].
** Ironically, this is what makes New!Chaos so much ''more'' reprehensible to many readers than their canon counterparts. Canon!Chaos's excuse for being evil is that they're essentially the UltimateEvil of the 40,000 'verse; they're ''expected'' to be irredeemable {{Complete Monster}}s, and they fulfill that expectation by CrossingTheLineTwice to become the ultimate symbols of violence, hatred and depravity. New!Chaos, on the other hand, doesn't cross that second line and doesn't get the moral immunity that comes with it; they're supposed to be humans, and the readers judge them like humans, and they've crossed so many {{Moral Event Horizon}}s that many readers call them the true villains of the series regardless of how much more evil the C'tan or Canon!Chaos are supposed to be (and it doesn't help matters ''at all'' that they frequently wind up fighting and curb-stomping pure white or light grey factions like [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the TSAB]] or [[StarTrek The Federation]]).
** Then again, 99% of all ''villains'' are saints compared to [[CompleteMonster canon]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice Chaos]].
** Ironically, this is what makes New!Chaos so much ''more'' reprehensible to many readers than their canon counterparts. Canon!Chaos's excuse for being evil is that they're essentially the UltimateEvil of the 40,000 'verse; they're ''expected'' to be irredeemable {{Complete Monster}}s, and they fulfill that expectation by CrossingTheLineTwice to become the ultimate symbols of violence, hatred and depravity. New!Chaos, on the other hand, doesn't cross that second line and doesn't get the moral immunity that comes with it; they're supposed to be humans, and the readers judge them like humans, and they've crossed so many {{Moral Event Horizon}}s that many readers call them the true villains of the series regardless of how much more evil the C'tan or Canon!Chaos are supposed to be (and it doesn't help matters ''at all'' that they frequently wind up fighting and curb-stomping pure white or light grey factions like [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the TSAB]] or [[StarTrek The Federation]]).
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* MoralityKitchenSink: Probably the best way to describe the morality in play here. New Chaos are pretty damn dark grey by any objective standards, yet compared to canon Chaos - or for that matter even the lightest grey of the canon 40k factions - they are practically saints. Of course, there are less grey factions around, and with the ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' [[strike:[[PinkBishoujoGhetto girls]]]] people around there are also "white" factions.
** Then again, 99% of all ''villains'' are saints compared to [[CompleteMonster canon]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice Chaos]].
** Ironically, this is what makes New!Chaos so much ''more'' reprehensible to many readers than their canon counterparts. Canon!Chaos's excuse for being evil is that they're essentially the UltimateEvil of the 40,000 'verse; they're ''expected'' to be irredeemable {{Complete Monster}}s, and they fulfill that expectation by CrossingTheLineTwice to become the ultimate symbols of violence, hatred and depravity. New!Chaos, on the other hand, doesn't cross that second line and doesn't get the moral immunity that comes with it; they're supposed to be humans, and the readers judge them like humans, and they've crossed so many {{Moral Event Horizon}}s that many readers call them the true villains of the series regardless of how much more evil the C'tan or Canon!Chaos are supposed to be (and it doesn't help matters ''at all'' that they frequently wind up fighting and curb-stomping pure white or light grey factions like [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the TSAB]] or [[StarTrek The Federation]]).
** Then again, 99% of all ''villains'' are saints compared to [[CompleteMonster canon]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice Chaos]].
** Ironically, this is what makes New!Chaos so much ''more'' reprehensible to many readers than their canon counterparts. Canon!Chaos's excuse for being evil is that they're essentially the UltimateEvil of the 40,000 'verse; they're ''expected'' to be irredeemable {{Complete Monster}}s, and they fulfill that expectation by CrossingTheLineTwice to become the ultimate symbols of violence, hatred and depravity. New!Chaos, on the other hand, doesn't cross that second line and doesn't get the moral immunity that comes with it; they're supposed to be humans, and the readers judge them like humans, and they've crossed so many {{Moral Event Horizon}}s that many readers call them the true villains of the series regardless of how much more evil the C'tan or Canon!Chaos are supposed to be (and it doesn't help matters ''at all'' that they frequently wind up fighting and curb-stomping pure white or light grey factions like [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the TSAB]] or [[StarTrek The Federation]]).
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*** No, no, no.. The Underdark went up errr... down when the 'everything in, nothing out' spell blocking the entry to Skuld's cul-de-sac finally went boom in thermonuclear fire. the pit fiend exploded shortly before that, and may have triggered it, but its death didn't even disturb the roof.
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* Main/YouShouldKnowThisAlready: Asuka, Misato, Rei and Shinji are the four New Chaos gods after Third Impact, as shown in ''FanFic/ThousandShinji''.
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''Note: This is a sequel to FanFic/ThousandShinji, and as such, will contain unmarked spoilers for it. You have been warned.''
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''Note: This is a sequel [[strike: noncanon sequel]] [[InsistentTerminology sidestory]] to FanFic/ThousandShinji, and as such, will contain unmarked spoilers for it. You have been warned.''
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* BadassBoast: Quite a few -- one that stands out is when the ''Stiletto'' first encounters [[StarTrek The Borg]]. After The Borg give their [[BadassBoast terms of surrender]], Rong-Arya's [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome response?]]
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*** Considering that it's [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Chaos]] (y'know, [[EldritchAbomination Chaos]]? ) getting utterly destroyed is a mercy to being at the mercy of {{complete monster}}s who try to justify their actions with BlueAndOrangeMorality or something..
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*** Considering that it's [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Chaos]] (y'know, [[EldritchAbomination Chaos]]? ) getting utterly destroyed is a mercy to being at the mercy of {{complete monster}}s who try to justify their actions with BlueAndOrangeMorality or something..something.
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** [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]]: [[spoiler: Lars was already carrying the concentrated core of emotions that could potentially become a daemon with just a bit more emotion. Skuld just happened to accidentally fertilize it, adding something different to the daemon while doing so. So biologically Lars is the mother and Skuld is the father, insofar as biology can be applied to goddesses and daemons. (Technically, Lars doesn't have a gender.) Well, he still tends to think of himself as male, but his sex is fully optional. And [[NaughtyTentacles rather fun for all concerned]].]]
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** [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]]: [[spoiler: Lars was already carrying the concentrated core of emotions that could potentially become a daemon with just a bit more emotion. Skuld just happened to accidentally fertilize it, adding something different to the daemon while doing so. So biologically Lars is the mother and Skuld is the father, insofar as biology can be applied to goddesses and daemons. (Technically, Lars doesn't have a gender.) ) Well, he still tends to think of himself as male, but his sex is fully optional. And [[NaughtyTentacles rather fun for all concerned]].]]
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* UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny: Half the fun. New!Chaos versus [[spoiler:the Borg]]/[[spoiler:SG-1's {{Big Bad}}s]]/[[spoiler:Cylons]]/[[spoiler:the DungeonsAndDragons pantheon]]? There's only one way to find out: '''''[[HarryHillsTVBurp FIIIGHT!!]]'''''
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** Arguably [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] by the fact that she was clearly insane beforehand.
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** Also Marella, though she is rather more ChaoticEvil.
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