History DethroningMoment / PokemonAnime

* PsiBasilisk: Ash’s and Rithcie’s battle in the episode Friend and Foe Alike, not because Ash lost, but because everything goes wrong for Ash for the worst possible reasons. First, Ritchie’s Butterfree uses sleep power on Ash Squritle, putting Ash’s Squritle to sleep. Then the referee declares that Squirtle is fainted and *unable to battle*. This is the most blatantly stupid thing a referee has done one this show. Sleep does not equal fainting. If that were the move rest would be unusable. Besides, there have been instances of Pokemon falling asleep during battle on this show without being eliminated do this is just stupid and inconsistent. I honestly think that referee should have been fired. Also it turns out that most of Ash’s Pokémon are way too tired to battle effectively due to having to dealing with Team Rocket's nonsense earlier. Pidgeotto even had to fly Ash over to get to the battle in time. Ash is therefore forced to use the only Pokemon that isn’t tired from the Team Rocket Fiasco; unfortunately it’s Charizard. At first, Charizard does good against Ritchie's team, however at one point Charizard just stops battling, lays down in the middle of the battle and forfeits, costing Ash the match. I know that Ash wasn't the smartest guy in the world, particularly in the earlier seasons but most of the problems in this battle were due to bad luck. He did not deserve to lose in such a humiliating way. This debacle was painful to watch.

* No ASSCAPS, no bold, and no italics unless it's the title of a work. We are not yelling the [=DMoSs=] out loud. Use asterisks instead if you need to emphasize something.

* PsiBasilisk: Ash’s and Rithcie’s battle in the episode Friend and Foe Alike, not because Ash lost, but because everything goes wrong for Ash for the worst possible reasons. First, Ritchie’s Butterfree uses sleep power on Ash Squritle, putting Ash’s squritle to sleep. Then the referee declares that Squirtle is fainted and *unable to battle*. This is the most blatantly stupid thing a referee has done one this show. Sleep does not equal fainting. If that were the move rest would be unusable. Besides, there have been instances of Pokemon falling asleep during battle on this show without being eliminated do this is just stupid and inconsistent. I honestly think that referee should have been fired. Also it turns out that most of Ash’s Pokémon are way too tired to battle effectively due to having to dealing with Team Rocket's nonsense earlier. Pidgeotto even had to fly Ash over to get to the battle in time. Ash is therefore forced to use the only Pokemon that isn’t tired from the Team Rocket Fiasco; unfortunately it’s Charizard. At first, Charizard does good against Ritchie's team, however at one point Charizard basically just stops battling, lays down in the middle of the battle and forfeits, costing Ash the match. I know that Ash wasn't the smartest guy in the world, particularly in the earlier seasons but most of the problems in this battle was due to bad luck. He did not deserve to lose in such a humiliating way.

* Ash’s and Rithcie’s battle in the episode Friend and Foe Alike, not because Ash lost, but because everything goes wrong for Ash for the worst possible reasons. First, Ritchie’s Butterfree uses sleep power on Ash Squritle, putting Ash’s squritle to sleep. Then the referee declares that Squirtle is fainted and *unable to battle*. This is the most blatantly stupid thing a referee has done one this show. Sleep does not equal fainting. If that were the move rest would be unusable. Besides, there have been instances of Pokemon falling asleep during battle on this show without being eliminated do this is just stupid and inconsistent. I honestly think that referee should have been fired. Also it turns out that most of Ash’s Pokémon are way too tired to battle effectively due to having to dealing with Team Rocket's nonsence earlier. Pidgeotto even had to fly Ash over to get to the battle in time. Ash is therefore forced to use the only Pokemon that isn’t tired from the Team Rocket Fiasco; unfortunately it’s Charizard. At first, Charizard does good against Ritchie's team, however at one point Charizard basically just stops battling, lays down in the middle of the battle and forfeits, costing Ash the match. I know that Ash wasn't the smartest guy in the world, particularly in the earlier seasons but most of the problems in this battle was due to bad luck. He did not deserve to lose in such a humiliating way.

* No ASSCAPS, no bold, and no italics unless it's the title of a work. We are not yelling the [=DMoSs=] out loud.

** fluffything: While I didn't mind that Tobias had a Darkrai and a Latias (Seriously, trainers have used Legendaries against Ash before, or have we forgotten Nolan and Pyramid King Brandon?). However, my main peeve with the episode is that there is NO explanation as to WHY Tobias has Legendaries. None. We're just led to assume that he's always had them. Um, no, no. That's not how it works. Pokemon, if you want trainers to use Legendaries now, fine. Great. But, at least give us an EXPLANATION as to how they obtained said Legendaries. Otherwise, it just feels like you're pulling it out of your ass.

** Tropers/ BlackCrimson: More like they parted on respectable terms. And nothing indicates Paul is sorry for anything that he did in the past. He may have lightened up in personality and shows his opponents more respect, but he's not turning into one of Ash's goody goody gang. And Paul freaking out about losing would have undermined everything that Brandon was trying to teach him during his BreaktheHaughty moment. Paul is still a jerk, as seen before his and Ash's match, make no mistake about it, and he and Ash are ''not'' going to be hanging out anytime soon The post above me just proves how some want Paul to suffer some horrible misfortune, which is massive DisproportionateRetribution. Losing to a trainer he thought nothing special of, as well as a Pokemon he repeatedly called useless was the best comeuppance he could have gotten. Regardless, he still could have done with some better development, even this troper can admit that.

** Goldeneye101: Moreover, there was Gaining Groudon to the parents who's children were fans. I was looking up stuff on Amazon for reviews on anime DVDs, and one that I was interested in was Gaining Groudon. It turns out that [[JustHereForGodzilla Some parents just bought it because Groudon was their child's favorite Pokemon]]. It was hilarious to see the mad parents when they realized Gaining Groudon was the LAST EPISODE on that DVD, and anybody who has seen the two specials can tell you that all Gaining Groudon had was a 5 second shot of Groudon in chains, meaning that parents would have to buy The Scuffle of Legends to get their money's worth. Well. Played.

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? Savannah goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete trash like this two-part {{Filler}}.

** Tropers/GintaxAlvissforever: This troper was equally annoyed with this scene originally because she thought that the writer of this episode was Atsuhiro Tomioka (the writer who created Paul). As a result, this troper thought Trip would be exactly the same as Paul...thank god for {{Hidden Depths}} but what pisses me off is that the writer of this episode just had to make Ash look stupid (seriously, attacking Frillish that has Curse Body?!) and make Trip look like a prick. Luckily, Ash took it better than Paul did and thank god they didn't make Trip invincible after that. -_-
* Goldeneye101: Alright, if anyone has noticed, every anime season has a past Pokemon to be the ''villain'' Pokemon. A.K.A. the Pokemon villains use in random appearances. The biggest example of this was Aggron in the Diamond/Pearl seasons. The biggest example of THIS was Trials and Adulations, and it starts swerving off into MarySue territory. It starts off with Dawn going off of the group for a bit to get water and an Aggron attacks her. The anime screams that it is trying to teach ''size does not equal power''. Because, despite it's Pokedex entry saying it protects the land it claims, it just happened to attack a main character, so it MUST be evil. Sure enough, Ash and Brock find she went missing, go up to the EXACT spot where Dawn fell in, and Aggron attacks them, too. Now you can see where this is going. Dawn returns on the screen, fights Team Rocket for a bit, and Aggron comes out of nowhere again and chases her while Team Rocket watches. Dawn gets out her Mamoswine, which has not obeyed her yet. Mamoswine loses the ensuing battle. They all then fall of a cliff and Mamoswine's body breaks the fall for Dawn. Wait, what? And all Mamoswine has is an injured leg after FALLING OFF A CLIFF? The rest of the episode is Dawn nursing Mamoswine back to health, the most thinly veiled attempt to copy from an earlier season yet. Finally, Aggron returns to fight Dawn again, this time Dawn riding on Mamoswine's back while battling. And wins. Did I mention Dawn barely knew any of Mamoswine's attacks yet and calls them out like a pro? All this could have been avoided, if it weren't for the ending. Mamoswine uses TWO Attacks, Ice Shard and Ancientpower. After Ancientpower, Aggron RUNS away in FEAR. Think about that with me for 5 seconds. A 7 foot, 800 pound rock dinosaur with an area to protect... ''RUNS FROM BATTLE.'' This troper is also a fan of Professional Wrestling, so imagine something like Andre the Giant running from Rey Mysterio in fear that he would get his ass kicked and you would get the same effect that the episode showed. I stopped watching the anime for that entire season, returning to it only with Best Wishes.
* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? She goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete thash like this two-part {{Filler}}.

* The way there are times THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",**even if the have ENOUGH TIME they become too late and their pokemon takes an attack.

** The way how powerful the moves are in pokemon movies than in games.Speaking of movies,didn't you see the victini movie?,in the distant beginning all 3 fully - evolved starter pokemom fainted,IN ONE HIT!!.and the victini [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat give ash's pokemon to defeat ash's opponents in 1 hit,JUST TO WIN A DUMB COMPETITION!!]]and worse when ash sees victini(and also the towns mayor sees it),the don't realize,ASH CHEATED!!.

* The way there are times THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",**even if the have ENOUGH TIME they become too late and their pokemon takes an attack. *The way how powerful the moves are in pokemon movies than in games.Speaking of movies,didn't you see the victini movie?,in the distant beginning all 3 fully - evolved starter pokemom fainted,IN ONE HIT!!.and the victini [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat give ash's pokemon to defeat ash's opponents in 1 hit,JUST TO WIN A DUMB COMPETITION!!]]and worse when ash sees victini(and also the towns mayor sees it),the don't realize,ASH CHEATED!!.

* The way there are times THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",**even if the have ENOUGH TIME they become too late and their pokemon takes an attack.

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? She goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete trash like this two-part {{Filler}}.the way there are times THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",even if the have ENOUGH TIME they become too late and their pokemon takes an attack.

* In the victini movie,is any one okay thet seperior,emborar,samurot,and hydragon,LOST in the compatation in 1 hit!And victini gave some of ash's pokemon to win.[[BigWhat WHAT?!]]and ASH DOESN'T CARE HE [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat CHEATED]] BY VICTINI?!

* In the victini movie,is any one okay thet seperior,emborar,samurot,and hydragon,LOST in the compatation in 1 hit!And victini gave some of ash's pokemon to win,and ASH DOESN'T CARE HE CHEATED BY VICTINI?!

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? She goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete trash like this two-part {{Filler}}.the way there are times THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",even if the have ENOUGH TIME they become too late and their pokemon takes an attack.

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? She goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete trash like this two-part {{Filler}}.the way there are times THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",even if the have ENOUGH TIME!

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? She goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete trash like this two-part {{Filler}}.the way there are times THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",even if the have ENOUGH TIME!(not THAT good in speeling.)

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? She goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete trash like this two-part {{Filler}}.the way there are time THE POKEMON TRAINERS DONT SAY"doge it!",even if the have ENOUGH TIME!(not THAT good in speeling.)

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Episodes 77 and 78 of the Hoenn arc, where May competes in the Rubello contest, but mostly 78. She gets all cocky as she wants to win badly. After passing the Appeal Round, Ash attempts to give May some tips to use with her Bulbasaur and what does she do? Tells him to shove it! How could it get worse? She goes all ShrinkingViolet and May doesn't sympathize at all! And May's Bulbasaur gets paralyzed by her opponent's Lairon's Shock Wave attack, despite the fact that the attack ''DOESN'T'' work that way! And to make matters worse, the judges act like total pricks to May when she loses. It's a total shame that Atsuhiro Tomioka went from writing great episodes such as "Ash Catches a Pokemon" and "Address Unown!" to complete trash like this two-part {{Filler}}.

* Goldeneye101: Alright, if anyone has noticed, every anime season has a past Pokemon to be the ''villain'' Pokemon. A.K.A. the Pokemon villains use in random appearances. The biggest example of this was Aggron in the Diamond/Pearl seasons. The biggest example of THIS was Trials and Adulations, and it starts swerving off into MarySue territory. It starts off with Dawn going off of the group for a bit to get water and an Aggron attacks her. The anime screams that it is trying to teach ''size does not equal power''. Because, despite it's Pokedex entry saying it protects the land it claims, it just happened to attack a main character, so it MUST be evil. Sure enough, Ash and Brock find she went missing, go up to the EXACT spot where Dawn fell in, and Aggron attacks them, too. Now you can see where this is going. Dawn returns on the screen, fights Team Rocket for a bit, and Aggron comes out of nowhere again and chases her while Team Rocket watches. Dawn gets out her Mamoswine, which has not obeyed her yet. Mamoswine loses the ensuing battle. They all then fall of a cliff and Mamoswine's body breaks the fall for Dawn. Wait, what? And all Mamoswine has is an injured leg after FALLING OFF A CLIFF? The rest of the episode is Dawn nursing Mamoswine back to health, the most thinly veiled attempt to copy from an earlier season yet. Finally, Aggron returns to fight Dawn again, this time Dawn riding on Mamoswine's back while battling. And wins. Did I mention Dawn barely knew any of Mamoswine's attacks yet and calls them out like a pro? All this could have been avoided, if it weren't for the ending. Mamoswine uses TWO Attacks, Ice Shard and Ancientpower. After Ancientpower, Aggron RUNS away in FEAR. Think about that with me for 5 seconds. A 7 foot, 800 pound rock dinosaur with an area to protect... ''RUNS FROM BATTLE.'' This troper is also a fan of Professional Wrestling, so imagine something like Andre the Giant running from Rey Mysterio in fear that he would get his ass kicked and you would get the same effect that the episode showed. I stopped watching the anime for that entire season, returning to it only with Best Wishes.

* Tropers/{{terlwyth}}: The departure of Misty from the team counts,which was the penultimate nail in the coffin after ''Johto League Champions'' started to embrace {{Filler}} and the MenaceDecay/TookALevelInDumbass in Team Rocket over even slight menace and gym episodes. The Nakama was really growing strong and developing and then that episode came,good-bye Misty. Then one episode where Misty makes an appearence and,... she doesn't have any DeadpanSnarker tendencies, she's kind of ditzy. WTH. I tried to get May to grow on me but this episode cemented that Pokemon is no longer watchable for me.

* Tropers/{{Manwiththeplan}}: When [[spoiler: Ash actually DID win against Paul, at long last, in the Sinnoh League...and Paul shrugged it off, he and Ash parted as FRIENDS all of a sudden, with Paul being treated as redeemed despite very little indication of it and no formal apology for his JerkAss behavior in the past. This is CharacterDevelopment for Paul gone horribly, HORRIBLY wrong, and as a result, he comes across as an incredible KarmaHoudini JerkSue. Also, to put it more into perspective how inappropriate this is: this was in the Sinnoh League tournament, close to the end, with Paul's DREAM of becoming a champion in sight...and he loses to Ash, the trainer he looked down upon, and Infernape, the evolution of the Pokemon HE LET GO! Ash went into depression after losing to Ritchie in the Indigo League; Paul should have had a flat-out VillainousBreakdown here. But no, Atsuhiro Tomioka (the writer) can't have his [[Creator's Pet pet character's]] "coolness" and composure ruined like that. He has him accept the defeat easily and be treated as a reformed, respectable trainer by characters and fans alike. BULL. SHIT.]]

* Tropers/{{Manwiththeplan}}: When [[spoiler: Ash actually DID win against Paul, at long last, in the Sinnoh League...and Paul shrugged it off, he and Ash parted as FRIENDS all of a sudden, with Paul being treated as redeemed despite very little indication of it and no formal apology for his JerkAss behavior in the past. This is CharacterDevelopment for Paul gone horribly, HORRIBLY wrong, and as a result, he comes across as an incredible KarmaHoudini JerkSue. Also, to put it more into perspective how inappropriate this is: this was in the Sinnoh League tournament, close to the end, with Paul's DREAM of becoming a champion in sight...and he loses to Ash, the trainer he looked down upon, and Infernape, the evolution of the Pokemon HE LET GO! Ash went into depression after losing to Ritchie in the Indigo League; Paul should have had a flat-out VillainousBreakdown here. But no, Atsuhiro Tomioka (the writer) can't have his [[TheWesley Wesley's]] "coolness" and composure ruined like that. He has him accept the defeat easily and be treated as a reformed, respectable trainer by characters and fans alike. BULL. SHIT.]]

[[caption-width-right:342: [[{{Anime/Pokemon}} Ash and Pikachu]] feel your pain.]]