History DethroningMoment / PokemonAnime

16th May '16 1:31:24 PM Psyga315
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*** {{@/Psyga315}}: I have to agree with ''everything'' mentioned above. The battle with Tobias is so blatant and contrived of a DiablosExMachina that it made the battle with Ritchie and even ''Cameron'' look naturally written. It's convinced me that there'll be at least ''some'' MarySue ready to deny Ash his victory at the league. Also, I wanna point out how ironic that this took place in a season called "Sinnoh League Victors". Like the writing staff were well aware that they were cheating Ash out of his moment and by extension, the viewers.

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*** {{@/Psyga315}}: I have to agree with ''everything'' mentioned above. The battle with Tobias is so blatant and contrived of a DiablosExMachina DiabolusExMachina that it made the battle with Ritchie and even ''Cameron'' look naturally written. It's convinced me that there'll be at least ''some'' MarySue ready to deny Ash his victory at the league. Also, I wanna point out how ironic that this took place in a season called "Sinnoh League Victors". Like the writing staff were well aware that they were cheating Ash out of his moment and by extension, the viewers.
16th May '16 1:30:40 PM Psyga315
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*** {{@/Psyga315}}: I have to agree with ''everything'' mentioned above. The battle with Tobias is so blatant and contrived of a DiablosExMachina that it made the battle with Ritchie and even ''Cameron'' look naturally written. It's convinced me that there'll be at least ''some'' MarySue ready to deny Ash his victory at the league. Also, I wanna point out how ironic that this took place in a season called "Sinnoh League Victors". Like the writing staff were well aware that they were cheating Ash out of his moment and by extension, the viewers.
22nd Apr '16 5:16:05 AM pgj1997
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* Tropers/{{Pgj1997}}: I love the Pikachu shorts. They're like the WesternAnimation/PixarShorts of anime. They're really fun to watch, and something to look forward to every time a new Pokémon movie comes out. That is except for "Pikachu's Island Adventure". You see, most Pikachu shorts have a NoDialogueEpisode sort of format, where the Pokémon are characterized to the point where there's a nice flowing narrative. Here however, they felt the need to have the narrator translate ''everything'', giving the short no charm whatsoever. Plus, Roger Parson's voice gets grating after a while, added to the fact that he puts little to no variation on the voices he gives the Pokémon. Luckily, this style didn't stick around, but it still took away everything that made the other Pikachu shorts enjoyable in the first place.
14th Jan '16 4:02:19 AM MagBas
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* Tropers/FalconPain: The second episode of the XY season, "Lumiose City Pursuit", ends with Ash trying to pacify a Garchomp on top of Prism Tower (the Kalos equivalent of the Eiffel Tower). After he succeeds, disaster strikes as part of the tower crumbles and Pikachu is sent falling. Ash's immediate reaction is to jump off the tower after him. This part should be bad by itself, what with Ash's [[SenselessSacrifice complete lack of ability to save himself or even Pikachu after his jump]] (he doesn't even have another Pokémon on hand that can fly or use psychic moves or vine whips or anything else that could help), but knowing that he is HotBlooded and cares deeply for Pikachu means we can understand his kneejerk reaction. Disaster is averted when the two are caught by [[DeusExMachina an unexpectedly helpful Mega Blaziken]]. (And we'll set aside [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou the physical problems that could cause]], or the fact that Mega Blaziken could have caught Pikachu even without Ash's help.) No, the true issue is that, once everything is said and done, everyone else who saw the incident has nothing but positive opinions of his hasty actions that, in anything less than this idealistic universe, would have resulted in two fatalities instead of one. It's hard not to sympathize, but the show expects viewers to directly approve of it. It even became a trend in Kalos afterward for Ash to routinely do reckless things, when the stakes for which he risks himself are not nearly as high as when he does similar actions in the movies, and suffer no actual consequences. Worse, Clemont and Serena have multiple monologues about how these actions inspire them. So I guess the viewers are supposed to do the same?

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* Tropers/FalconPain: The second episode of the XY season, "Lumiose City Pursuit", ends with Ash trying to pacify a Garchomp on top of Prism Tower (the Kalos equivalent of the Eiffel Tower). After he succeeds, disaster strikes as part of the tower crumbles and Pikachu is sent falling. Ash's immediate reaction is to jump off the tower after him. This part should be bad by itself, what with Ash's [[SenselessSacrifice complete lack of ability to save himself or even Pikachu after his jump]] (he doesn't even have another Pokémon on hand that can fly or use psychic moves or vine whips or anything else that could help), but knowing that he is HotBlooded and cares deeply for Pikachu means we can understand his kneejerk reaction. Disaster is averted when the two are caught by [[DeusExMachina an unexpectedly helpful Mega Blaziken]]. (And we'll set aside [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou the physical problems that could cause]], or the fact that Mega Blaziken could have caught Pikachu even without Ash's help.) No, the true issue is that, once everything is said and done, everyone else who saw the incident has nothing but positive opinions of his hasty actions that, in anything less than this idealistic universe, would have resulted in two fatalities instead of one. It's hard not to sympathize, but the show expects viewers to directly approve of it. It even became a trend in Kalos afterward for Ash to routinely do reckless things, when the stakes for which he risks himself are not nearly as high as when he does similar actions in the movies, and suffer no actual consequences. Worse, Clemont and Serena have multiple monologues about how these actions inspire them. So I guess the viewers are supposed to do the same?
13th Jan '16 1:10:27 PM FalconPain
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* Tropers/FalconPain: The second episode of the XY season, "Lumiose City Pursuit", ends with Ash trying to pacify a Garchomp on top of Prism Tower (the Kalos equivalent of the Eiffel Tower). After he succeeds, disaster strikes as part of the tower crumbles and Pikachu is sent falling. Ash's immediate reaction is to jump off the tower after him. This part should be bad by itself, what with Ash's [[SenselessSacrifice complete lack of ability to save himself or even Pikachu after his jump]] (he doesn't even have another Pokémon on hand that can fly or use psychic moves or vine whips or anything else that could help), but knowing that he is HotBlooded and cares deeply for Pikachu means we can understand his kneejerk reaction. Disaster is averted when the two are caught by [[DeusExMachina an unexpectedly helpful Mega Blaziken]]. (And we'll set aside [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou the physical problems that could cause]], or the fact that Mega Blaziken could have caught Pikachu even without Ash's help.) No, the true issue is that, once everything is said and done, everyone else who saw the incident has nothing but positive opinions of his hasty actions that, in anything less than this idealistic universe, would have resulted in two fatalities instead of one. It's hard not to sympathize, but the show expects viewers to directly approve of it. It even became a trend in Kalos afterward for Ash to routinely do reckless things, when the stakes for which he risks himself are not nearly as high as when he does similar actions in the movies, and suffer no actual consequences. Worse, Clemont and Serena have multiple monologues about how these actions inspire them. So I guess the viewers are supposed to do the same?
1st Jan '16 7:21:38 AM TheFarmboy
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* Tropers/TheFarmboy: An episode that rubbed me the wrong way was the episode "Pokemon Scent-sation" they were in Celedon City. When Ash started to say some slanderous things about perfume, Erika comes in to give Ash a verbal chewing. Fair enough, but then we learned that [[DisproportionateRetribution she banned Ash from entering the gym.]] Really now? An adult woman barring a ten year old because he insulted her perfume. That just makes her sound like an immature kid, and I [[CharacterDerailment do no think Erika would act that way in the game]]. Shame that is the same episode that gives us [[FunnyMoments a cross-dressing Ash.]]

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* Tropers/TheFarmboy: An episode that rubbed me the wrong way was the episode "Pokemon Scent-sation" Scent-sation", where they were in Celedon City. When Ash started to say some slanderous things about perfume, Erika comes in to give Ash a verbal chewing. Fair enough, but then we learned that [[DisproportionateRetribution she banned Ash from entering the gym.]] Really now? An adult woman barring a ten year old because he insulted her perfume. That just makes her sound like an immature kid, and I [[CharacterDerailment do no think Erika would act that way in the game]]. Shame that is the same episode that gives us [[FunnyMoments a cross-dressing Ash.]]
1st Jan '16 7:20:22 AM TheFarmboy
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* Tropers/TheFarmboy: An episode that rubbed me the wrong way was the episode when they were in Celedon City. When Ash started to say some slanderous things about perfume, Erika comes in to give Ash a verbal chewing. Fair enough, but then we learned that [[DisproportionateRetribution she banned Ash from entering the gym.]] Really now? An adult woman barring a ten year old because he insulted her perfume. That just makes her sound like an immature kid. Shame that is the same episode that gives us a cross-dressing Ash.

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* Tropers/TheFarmboy: An episode that rubbed me the wrong way was the episode when "Pokemon Scent-sation" they were in Celedon City. When Ash started to say some slanderous things about perfume, Erika comes in to give Ash a verbal chewing. Fair enough, but then we learned that [[DisproportionateRetribution she banned Ash from entering the gym.]] Really now? An adult woman barring a ten year old because he insulted her perfume. That just makes her sound like an immature kid. kid, and I [[CharacterDerailment do no think Erika would act that way in the game]]. Shame that is the same episode that gives us [[FunnyMoments a cross-dressing Ash. Ash.]]
28th Dec '15 11:22:53 PM TheCallOutBSMan
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* TheCallOutBSMan: When the TPCI English dub has Ash say the following in "A Rush of Ninja Wisdom":
"Alright, Froakie, this is where we really need to step on the gas!" No kid in the world talks like this, not to mention it's completely out of character for Ash to say something this.

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* TheCallOutBSMan: When the TPCI English dub has Ash say the following in "A Rush of Ninja Wisdom":
Wisdom": "Alright, Froakie, this is where we really need to step on the gas!" No kid in the world talks like this, not to mention it's completely out of character for Ash to say something this.
28th Dec '15 11:22:04 PM TheCallOutBSMan
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* TheCallOutBSMan: When the English dub has Ash say the following in "A Rush of Ninja Wisdom"..."Alright, Froakie, time to put your foot on the gas!" No kid in the world talks like this, not to mention it's completely OOC for Ash to say this.

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* TheCallOutBSMan: When the TPCI English dub has Ash say the following in "A Rush of Ninja Wisdom"...Wisdom":
"Alright, Froakie, time this is where we really need to put your foot step on the gas!" No kid in the world talks like this, not to mention it's completely OOC out of character for Ash to say something this.
22nd Dec '15 6:32:49 PM CerotechOmega
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With [[LongRunner over 900 episodes and 18 movies under its belt]], this show's bound to run into an unbearable moment that we would capture them with a Master Ball and send them into the storage of disgraces sooner or later.

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With [[LongRunner over 900 episodes and 18 movies under its belt]], this show's bound to run into an unbearable moment show undeniably has moments that we would capture the cast, deep down, wishes some act of Arceus could make them with a Master Ball and send them into the storage of disgraces sooner or later.
forget.
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