History DethroningMoment / DisneySitcoms

** Jaden0743: This troper has the a problem with second part of the ''Series/Liv and Maddie" episode Kathy Kan-A-Rooney as it shows how much of a [[SoreLoser Sore Loser]] Maddie is as what happen is that she and Joey are playing HORSE with both of them at HORS. (Maddie gave Joey a head start.) Joey quits knowing he's going to lose, only to made a almost impossible shot that Maddie can't copy prompting him to beat Maddie for the first time and swore off sports permanently. Maddie than spends the rest of the episode trying to challange Joey to beat him as she believes there can't be a world where Joey beats her. By the end she gets Joey in contest who can full out the periodic table and here come the part I hate. Maddie than reveals a hidden Tic-Tac-Toe board underneath which she counts as her victory despite Joey's lack of knowledge of the board (He even calls bull on that one) but Maddie still take her "victory" and no one calls her out on it. This episode took Maddie's love for competition and made it like she can't take a loss like a good sport would.

* fairygirl567: Do movies count? Because the ending to Teen Beach Movie 2 was downright horrific! So after spending the entire movie trying to get the characters from the beach movie back into their movies, it makes sense in the context of the movie, and then Mack tells Lela she can make her own choices because Lela had been worrying about not being important or something. So then they all head back and everything seems to return to normal and then we find out Lela did change her destiny, by completely rewriting the movie as a woman empowering movie where she's the lead and Tanner is her boy toy or something and she's queen of the beach, this literally rewrites history and now it's Mack's favorite movie and Brady hasn't watched it before, which is fine and all, but what Lela did was selfish! And not because it was wrong, but because of what she did, Brady and Mack don't remember each other, like at all! And now everything is turned upside down and the events of the first movie are pretty much erased and pointless because it never even happened anymore! And the viewer is supposed to be like dancing around all happy knowing that our two leads have had their brains wiped and don't know each other as well as other unfortunate implications! And there are so many holes in the end like if Lela changed the movies does that mean the actress is different? What happened to the older actors now? This wasn't a story someone wrote and the characters are fake and it doesn't matter, these were played by actors so what happened to them? Why did the writers think this was a good ending? And Tv tropes called it a Happy Estoric Moment, but in reality it's pretty dark.

* futuremoviewriter: What annoyed me a bit, but not too much, about "Sonny With a Choice" from ''Sonny with a Chance'' was the ending. Not just because I loved Channy with a passion and hated seeing them end, but because Sonny should have known what to expect and react differently. She let her pride get the better of her, gloated over the ''So Random!'' victory, could tell Chad was having a hard time with it and then not only be surprised when he asked for the recount that determined ''Mackenzie Falls'' actually did win and decide that's the point of no return? I'm sorry but Chad got away with a lot worse than that in the past and for this to be the moment that upset and hurt her the most is asking too much. Sonny knew how thin-skinned Chad was that he was desperate for a solution to the problem and came off as hypocritical for not being more understanding towards him in that moment. Plus, the fact that the recount determined ''So Random!'' wasn't supposed to win in the first place means that Sonny seems to act like hiding that from everyone was not a bad idea and that hints at a surprisingly dishonest approach she would have taken towards the situation. Not terrible, but still pretty annoying as well as HarsherInHindsight given that the next episode ends the show.

*** Tropers/MathsAngelicVersion: I was never a big fan of the show in the first place, but Stevie's InformedWrongness is my [=DMoS=] too, and what cemented the show as unwatchable for me. The main characters directly contribute to the destruction of countless families, have an extremely flimsy justification for it, get away with it and are somehow portrayed as in the right! I mean, if it turned out that the main characters knew the competition was something awful, but clearly the lesser of two (or more) evils, that would be more acceptable[[note]]Well, if, and that can be a big if, the greater evil(s) make(s) sense.[[/note]]. Of course, there's nothing like this, not even from WordOfGod! Apparently, [[SkewedPriorities keeping the competition around to create drama later on is more important than not making the main characters completely unlikable]]. They were never good people, but this is crossing the MoralEventHorizon. The later drama doesn't even work because I won't care who wins the stupid competition - by defending it, they've shown that [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they're all too horrible to deserve it]]. I honestly wanted them to [[KarmicDeath die in a freak accident during their competition]].

* Tropers/{{LLSmoothJ}}: I never thought I would be the first person to start an entry to a show (let alone this one), but ''Series/GirlMeetsWorld'' caused it to happen with "Girl Meets Mr. Squirrels." The main plot is Riley and Maya are in a fight because Riley didn't defend Maya when Lucas called her "a short stack of pancakes" in retaliation to her constant jabs at his Texan background. This ends up treating Maya as TheWoobie (Admittedly not at first). What makes this a [=DMoS=] is that the show expects us to sympathize with Maya. Someone who since day one has been making jabs at Lucas in a way that, if he were a minority character, would reek of UnfortunateImplications. No matter how you look at it, [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic all I saw was someone who got upset when someone she's been making fun of (finally) decided to give her a taste of her own personality]].

* DarthJosh: The episode of ''GoodLuckCharlie'' where Teddy found out that a boy she was dating played [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Po-Ki]][[TabletopGame/YuGiOh -Oh]]. Teddy was conflicted, but she decide to even receive training from Gabe on how to play the game just to stay with him. That was setting up for a good GiveGeeksAChance moral, but then they decided to take the DanSchneider route by revealing the love interest and his friends also engage in [=LARPing=]. That's when Teddy decides to leave him. I know the Aesop was supposed to be 'Be yourself,' but that can easily be misinterpreted as [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop don't]] GiveGeeksAChance [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop because they have weird hobbies]]. Seriously, that's the kind of thing I expected out of something by DanSchneider. I swear that they had to have had [[StalkerWithACrush Emmett]] finally get creeped out by Teddy as an apology for this wretch of an episode.
* Tropers/{{ading}}: ''SoRandom'' is normally one of the few Disney shows which I rarely find disappointing, with the exception of the "wizards on Wheel of Fortune". Firstly, the skit is with Harry Potter, Gollum, and Bella Swan, even though Gollum and Bella aren't wizards, or even supernatural, to begin with. Secondly, all three characters are {{Flanderized}} into complete idiots for no apparent reason. Also, their Harry Potter impression sounds more like {{Fred}} than Harry Potter. Thirdly, every time Bella tries to answer Edward and Jacob come in and fight over who's going to answer for her. It was funny when it started, but then it continues through the entire skit and it just gets boring.

* Animeking1108: ''TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'' and its spin-off were good shows at some point, but one episode really pissed me off. After one of Zack's pranks pisses off Moseby and Tutweiler, they decide to make him a hall monitor so he could learn responsibility. This leads up to the clichéd YellowSashOfPower episode. After Zack starts giving everyone detentions left and right, the episode ends with him in it too. Everyone in the Detention Room clearly has disdain for Zack for his actions, so what happens next? [[MoralEventHorizon Tutweiler deliberately leaves the classroom alone so everyone can beat up Zack]]. How was this woman not fired/sued for letting the students assault him?

** futuremoviewriter: This show has yet to do anything God awful and even "Girl Meets Fish" and "Girl Meets Demolition" showed potential that reveals even a couple of the worst episodes still had something to offer and how extremely mature the show is. An annoyance I have trouble ignoring though is "Girl Meets Rah Rah" which is far from awful but has two issues I struggle with: the moral and the execution. The episode seems to be setting up the moral to be: as hard as you try and desperately work for something, you may need to accept the fact that there's only so much you can do to improve if you don't have the natural ability for it and face reality. It's a harsh moral, but a realistic and impressive one. Instead, it opts for the easy and optimistic: keep trying and working as hard as possible and you'll succeed no matter what. That'd be all good and well, except for the episode depicting Riley as being wrong and acting delusional and in denial whenever people try to tell her she just doesn't have the skillset for cheerleading. While the ending supports her, the episode doesn't, so the moral comes off as being out place, unexpected, unsolicited and just plain wrong. The moral is actually present much sooner than the ending, but it's bull to say Edison's passion and refusal to quit on what he was going applies appropriately. He was also skilled at what he did and clearly did get better! Riley shows one scene in which she slightly improves, but otherwise, she never gets better! If she did, it would be justified, but for her to demand to be on the squad just because she's passionate and for her friends, family and even the squad to continue to support her is stupid! Especially considering she knocks them all down again immediately following them standing up for her! Not to mention they stand up for her by essentially threatening the coach that they'll quit the team by faking injuries if she isn't allowed to join! Other than her spirit (which is not enough), she has done nothing to prove that she will be a good edition to the team and for the coach to be forced into saying she was wrong when she was actually right and logically sound is very wrong! No teacher should be forced into following the whim of a student when the teacher is not trying to be unreasonable! Riley stinks and it may have seemed personal for the coach to not put her on the team, but it wasn't! She lets Riley on, she's got to pretty much let anyone on and that defeats the purpose of having the best because that is what relates to skill, not the ability to know not to quit. And Cory, you are a father before you are a teacher! Tell your daughter what you think is best for her, not for your student!

** futuremoviewriter: This show has yet to do anything God awful and even "Girl Meets Fish" and "Girl Meets Demolition" showed potential that reveals even the worst episodes still had something to offer and how extremely mature the show is. An annoyance I have trouble ignoring though is in "Girl Meets Rah Rah" which is far from bad but has one issue I struggle a bit with: the moral. The episode seems to be setting up the moral to be: as hard as you try and desperately work for something, you may need to accept the fact that there's only so much you can do to improve if you don't have the natural ability for it and face reality. It's a harsh moral, but a realistic and impressive one. Instead, it opts for the easy and optimistic: keep trying and working as hard as possible and you'll succeed no matter what. That'd be all good and well, except for the episode depicting Riley as being wrong and acting delusional and in denial whenever people try to tell her she just doesn't have the skillset for cheerleading. While the ending supports her, the episode doesn't, so the moral comes off as being out place, unexpected, unsolicited and just plain wrong. Not a criminal offense and not one that makes me lose my mind unlike other shows, but still something that bothers me nonetheless.

** futuremoviewriter: This show has yet to do anything God awful and even "Girl Meets Fish" and "Girl Meets Demolition" showed potential that reveals even the worst episodes still had something to offer and how extremely mature the show is. An annoyance I have trouble ignoring though is "Girl Meets Rah Rah" which is far from bad but has one issue I struggle a bit with: the moral. The episode seems to be setting up the
* futuremoviewriter: What annoyed me a bit, but not too much, about "Sonny With a Choice" from ''Sonny with a Chance'' was the ending. Not just because I loved Channy with a passion and hated seeing them end, but because Sonny should have known what to expect and react differently. She let her pride get the better of her, gloated over the ''So Random!'' victory, could tell Chad was having a hard time with it and then not only be surprised when he asked for the recount that determined ''Mackenzie Falls'' actually did win and decide that's the point of no return? I'm sorry but Chad got away with a lot worse than that in the past and for this to be the moment that upset and hurt her the most is asking too much. Sonny knew how thin-skinned Chad was that he was desperate for a solution to the problem and came off as hypocritical for not being more understanding towards him in that moment. Plus, the fact that the recount determined ''So Random!'' wasn't supposed to win in the first place means that Sonny seems to act like hiding that from everyone was not a bad idea and that hints at a surprisingly dishonest approach she would have taken towards the situation. Not terrible, but pretty annoying as well as HarsherInHindsight.

* Tropers/{{LLSmoothJ}}: I never thought I would be the first person to start an entry to a show (let alone this one), but ''Series/GirlMeetsWorld'' caused it to happen with "Girl Meets Mr. Squirrels." The main plot is Riley and Maya are in a fight because Riley didn't defend Maya when Lucas called her "a short stack of pancakes" in retaliation to her constant jabs at his Texan background. This ends up treating Maya as TheWoobie (Admittedly not at first). What makes this a [=DMoS=] is that the show expects us to sympathize with Maya. Someone who since day one has been making jabs at Lucas in a way that, if he were a minority character, would reek of UnfortunateImplications. No matter how you look at it, [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic all I saw was someone who got upset when someone she's been making fun of (finally) decided to give her a taste of her own personality]].

** Tropers/ABlackRaptor: Originally, for me it was the ending of "Wizards Vs Werewolves". However, the series finale is now even worse and essentially replaced the previous moment. Basically, its the same thing: It was a massive copout that bordered on DeusExMachina: Justin wins the wizard competition and earns the right to become a full wizard. But, he interrupts the awarding of it by declaring he doesn't deserve it, because Alex stopped and came back to help him when he got stuck on a bush and helped him get out. So, he declares that she deserves it, but not him. But, so he'll have a happy ending, Professor Crumps announces he's retiring and appoints Justin his replacement, so that he can become a full wizard instead. Ok, [[TranquilFury this infuriates me]]. 1) Since when did Justin ever think Alex deserves the right to be a full wizard? He's made it clear before he doesn't think she deserves magic because she always abuses it. Why? Because, she totally does! Alex is always being reclass and causing trouble with magic, to the point she comes off as a DesignatedHero. But, because she saved him, he decides to change his opinion? Didn't he get really mad when others ignored all the bad she did to award her for saving the world once? 2) If they wanted to have Justin give up the power, why not just show the damn scene first instead of flashing back to it? Did they want to make it a plot twist? Well, too bad, they failed! Why didn't they just make it clear before what happened, or better yet, just let her win and give Justin another reason to be awarded the power by Crumps. 3) Why did she even have to win in the first place? Like I said, Alex is constantly abusing magic and causes all the trouble she gets into. Justin isn't [[NotSoDifferent always that much better]], but he's usually only such because Alex does something to set him off. Why not just let Justin win? Oh, because of her and Mason, the boyfriend she would have to break up with. But, he's an immortal werewolf who will apparently never grow up, Twilight Vampire style. She's going to get older, he's not, so eventually they'll have to break up. 4) The Crumps thing came completely out of nowhere. Why not announce at the beginning he was retiring, or a few episodes ago and build up to it? This is the problem with DeusExMachina endings, they can easily be averted by hinting/foreshadowing/building up to it. All in all, the ending was just lazily written.

** Tropers/ABlackRaptor: Originally, for me it was the ending of "Wizards Vs Werewolves". However, the series finale is now even worse and essentially replaced the previous moment. Basically, its the same thing: It was a massive copout that bordered on Dues Ex Machina: Justin wins the wizard competition and earns the right to become a full wizard. But, he interrupts the awarding of it by declaring he doesn't deserve it, because Alex stopped and came back to help him when he got stuck on a bush and helped him get out. So, he declares that she deserves it, but not him. But, so he'll have a happy ending, Professor Crumps announces he's retiring and appoints Justin his replacement, so that he can become a full wizard instead. Ok, [[TranquilFury this infuriates me]]. 1) Since when did Justin ever think Alex deserves the right to be a full wizard? He's made it clear before he doesn't think she deserves magic because she always abuses it. Why? Because, she totally does! Alex is always being reclass and causing trouble with magic, to the point she comes off as a DesignatedHero. But, because she saved him, he decides to change his opinion? Didn't he get really mad when others ignored all the bad she did to award her for saving the world once? 2) If they wanted to have Justin give up the power, why not just show the damn scene first instead of flashing back to it? Did they want to make it a plot twist? Well, too bad, they failed! Why didn't they just make it clear before what happened, or better yet, just let her win and give Justin another reason to be awarded the power by Crumps. 3) Why did she even have to win in the first place? Like I said, Alex is constantly abusing magic and causes all the trouble she gets into. Justin isn't [[NotSoDifferent always that much better]], but he's usually only such because Alex does something to set him off. Why not just let Justin win? Oh, because of her and Mason, the boyfriend she would have to break up with. But, he's an immortal werewolf who will apparently never grow up, Twilight Vampire style. She's going to get older, he's not, so eventually they'll have to break up. 4) The Crumps thing came completely out of nowhere. Why not announce at the beginning he was retiring, or a few episodes ago and build up to it? This is the problem with DeusExMachina endings, they can easily be averted by hinting/foreshadowing/building up to it. All in all, the ending was just lazily written.

*** Manwiththeplan: That episode was just filled with ungodly bad writing. It got what was right and wrong entirely mixed up! [[DesignatedVillain Stevie]] was supposedly wrong and "evil" for daring to rise up against the unfair Wizard Competition (along with others she'd recruited who felt the same way) so that all wizards can keep their magic powers and there'd be less broken wizard families like hers or the Russos around. [[DesignatedHero Alex]] was supposedly "doing the right thing" in [[ManipulativeBastard using Stevie and pretending to still be her friend]] just so she can freeze her and transfer her powers back to her brother. And Justin was supposedly right in hamfistedly declaring that "Stevie is evil and is trying to overtake the entire wizard world" even though she never talked about doing anything of the sort, unless the wizard world is really shallow enough to be kept standing by one stupid competition and it's stupid rules. And Max, who actually wanted to take over the wizard world to be king and is the one who kills Stevie in the end, gets [[KarmaHoudini no punishment or acknowledgement of what he's done wrong.]] And no one cares that Stevie's dead; Alex even makes a joke out of it after Stevie shatters on her unconscious brother! And before that, Alex flat out states that she thinks "people outside the Russos are better." Well, YEAH; this episode proves that in so many ways! This is a DysfunctionalFamily of monsters! If the series had started it's downhill spiral at the start of the third season, this episode is definitely

what killed it.

* DarthJosh: The episode of ''GoodLuckCharlie'' where Teddy found out that a boy she was dating played [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Po-Ki]][[TabletopGame/YuGiOh -Oh]]. Teddy was conflicted, but she decide to even receive training from Gabe on how to play the game just to stay with him. That was setting up for a good GiveGeeksAChance moral, but then they decided to take the DanSchneider route by revealing the love interest and his friends also engage in LARPing. That's when Teddy decides to leave him. I know the Aesop was supposed to be 'Be yourself,' but that can easily be misinterpreted as [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop don't]] GiveGeeksAChance [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop because they have weird hobbies]]. Seriously, that's the kind of thing I expected out of something by DanSchneider. I swear that they had to have had [[StalkerWithACrush Emmett]] finally get creeped out by Teddy as an apology for this wretch of an episode.

* Tropers/{{LLSmoothJ}}: I never thought I would be the first person to start an entry to a show (let alone this one), but ''Series/GirlMeetsWorld'' did it with "Girl Meets Mr. Squirrels." The main plot is Riley and Maya are in a fight because Riley didn't defend Maya when Lucas called her "a short stack of pancakes" in retaliation to her constant jabs at his Texan background. This ends up treating Maya as TheWoobie (Admittedly not at first). What makes this a [=DMoS=] is that the show expects us to sympathize with Maya. Someone who since day one has been making jabs at Lucas in a way that, if he were a minority character, would reek of UnfortunateImplications. No matter how you look at it, [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic all I saw was someone who got upset when someone she's been making fun of (finally) decided to give her a taste of her own personality]].

* Animeking1108: ''TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'' and its spin-off were good shows at some point, but one episode really pissed me off. After one of Zack's pranks pisses off Moseby and Tutweiler, they decide to make him a hall monitor so he could learn responsibility. This leads up to the clichéd YellowSashOfPower episode. After Zack starts giving everyone detentions left and right, the episode ends with him in it too. Everyone in the Detention Room clearly has disdain for Zack for his actions, so what happens next? [[MoralEventHorizon Tutweiler deliberately leaves the classroom alone so everyone can beat up Zack]]. How was this woman not fired/sued for letting the students assault him?

**** legomaniac90: Not only that, the whole Competition setup reeks of UnfortunateImplications already. The fact that we're supposed to root for the person who wishes to keep the status quo over the person who wants to make a genuine reform simply adds ''more'' UnfortunateImplications along with a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop to boot ("Kids, if someone wants to change a corrupt system, they're evil and should be stopped!").

*** Tropers/{{GreeneMachine92}}: Adding to that, this trope found extremely irritating that prior to the finale there was an online competition to determine who would win the family wizard title in the finale. This was obviously a ThrowtheDogABone for the fans if they wanted Justin or Max (the episode suggests Justin won this competition) to win, but that's the problem. Why have your DesignatedHero be the winner rather than a character your audience thinks is more deserving? This is especially true if your writing isn't set to teach an AnAesop about competition.

*** Manwiththeplan: That episode was just filled with ungodly bad writing. It got what was right and wrong entirely mixed up! [[DesignatedVillain Stevie]] was supposedly wrong and "evil" for daring to rise up against the unfair Wizard Competition (along with others she'd recruited who felt the same way) so that all wizards can keep their magic powers and there'd be less broken wizard families like hers or the Russos around. [[DesignatedHero Alex]] was supposedly "doing the right thing" in [[ManipulativeBastard using Stevie and pretending to still be her friend]] just so she can freeze her and transfer her powers back to her brother. And Justin was supposedly right in hamfistedly declaring that "Stevie is evil and is trying to overtake the entire wizard world" even though she never talked about doing anything of the sort, unless the wizard world is really shallow enough to be kept standing by one stupid competition and it's stupid rules. And Max, who actually wanted to take over the wizard world to be king and is the one who kills Stevie in the end, gets [[KarmaHoudini no punishment or acknowledgement of what he's done wrong.]] And no one cares that Stevie's dead; Alex even makes a joke out of it after Stevie shatters on her unconscious brother! And before that, Alex flat out states that she thinks "people outside the Russos are better." Well, YEAH; this episode proves that in so many ways! This is a DysfunctionalFamily of monsters! If the series had started it's downhill spiral at the start of the third season, this episode is definitely what killed it.

* DarthJosh: The episode of ''GoodLuckCharlie'' where Teddy found out that a boy she was dating played [[{{Pokemon}} Po-Ki]][[TabletopGame/YuGiOh -Oh]]. Teddy was conflicted, but she decide to even receive training from Gabe on how to play the game just to stay with him. That was setting up for a good GiveGeeksAChance moral, but then they decided to take the DanSchneider route by revealing the love interest and his friends also engage in LARPing. That's when Teddy decides to leave him. I know the Aesop was supposed to be 'Be yourself,' but that can easily be misinterpreted as [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop don't]] GiveGeeksAChance [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop because they have weird hobbies]]. Seriously, that's the kind of thing I expected out of something by DanSchneider. I swear that they had to have had [[StalkerWithACrush Emmett]] finally get creeped out by Teddy as an apology for this wretch of an episode.

**** legomaniac90: Not only that, the whole Competition setup reeks of UnfortunateImplications already. The fact that we're supposed to root for the person who wishes to keep the status quo over the person who wants to make a genuine reform simply adds ''more'' UnfortunateImplications along with a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop to boot ("Kids, if someone wants to change a corrupt system, they're evil and should be stopped!).

* Tropers/{{syrus372}}: Series/{{Jessie}}: I don't mean to start any flame wars but personally dislike Jessie by itself but the episode Diary of a Mad Newswoman is an all-time low. Basically, it says instead of facing the consequences, you should try to come back and trick them. Of course Zuri says she's sorry but I still think it portrays the wrong message.

* DarthJosh: The episode of ''GoodLuckCharlie'' where Teddy found out that a boy she was dating played [[{{Pokemon}} Po-Ki]][[TabletopGame/YuGiOh -Oh]]. Teddy was conflicted, but she decide to even receive training from Gabe on how to play the game just to stay with him. That was setting up for a good GiveGeeksAChance moral, but then they decided to take the DanSchneider route by revealing the love interest and his friends also engage in LARPing. That's when Teddy decides to leave him. I know the Aesop was supposed to be 'Be yourself,' but that can easily be misinterpreted as [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop don't]] GiveGeeksAChance [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop because they have weird hobbies]]. Seriously, that's the kind of thing I expected out of something by DanSchneider. I swear that they had to have had [[StalkerWithACrush Emmett]] finally get creeped out by Teddy as an apology for this wretch of an episode.

** Tropers/TooBadForU: The episode when Stevie was revealed to be evil, and ultimately got defeated by Alex freezing her and Max accidently knocking her over and shattering her to pieces, thus most likely killing her. The fact that Stevie turned out to be "evil" was... alright I guess, and sure, freezing someone is a kinda cool and unusual way of beating them, but did they really have to kill her off? The thing that bothers me the most, however, is that no-one even cared that Stevie just died! That was horrible, but the worst still must've been when Max and Justin started to draw things on the face of an unconscious guy who was covered in [[{{Squick}} Stevie's pieces]]. Said guy was Stevie's brother! Okay, they might've been at odds with each other, but still! To wake up and find out that, not only is your only sister dead, [[FridgeHorror but you're lying amidst her frozen parts!]] [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And your face has been drawn on as well!]]

*** Manwiththeplan: That episode was just filled with ungodly bad writing. It got what was right and wrong entirely mixed up! [[DesignatedVillain Stevie]] was supposedly wrong and "evil" for daring to rise up against the unfair Wizard Competition (along with others she'd recruited who felt the same way) so that all wizards can keep their magic powers and there'd be less broken wizard families like hers or the Russos around. [[DesignatedHero Alex]] was supposedly "doing the right thing" in [[ManipulativeBastard using Stevie and pretending to still be her friend]] just so she can freeze her and transfer her powers back to her brother. And Justin was supposedly right in hamfistedly declaring that "Stevie is evil and is trying to overtake the entire wizard world" even though she never talked about doing anything of the sort, unless the wizard world is really shallow enough to be kept standing by one stupid competition and it's stupid rules. And Max, who actually wanted to take over the wizard world to be king and is the one who kills Stevie in the end, gets [[KarmaHoudini no punishment or acknowledgement of what he's done wrong.]] And no one cares that Stevie's dead; Alex even makes a joke out of it after Stevie shatters on her unconscious brother! And before that, Alex flat out states that she thinks "people outside the Russos are better." Well, YEAH; this episode proves that in so many ways! This is a DysfunctionalFamily of monsters! If the series had started it's downhill spiral at the start of the third season, this episode is defenitely what killed it.
** Tropers/ABlackRaptor: Originally, for me it was the ending of "Wizards Vs Werewolves". However, the series finale is now even worse and essentially replaced the previous moment. Basically, its the same thing: It was a massive copout that bordered on Dues Ex Machina: Justin wins the wizard competition and earns the right to become a full wizard. But, he interupts the awarding of it by declaring he doesn't deserve it, because Alex stopped and came back to help him when he got stuck on a bush and helped him get out. So, he declares that she deserves it, but not him. But, so he'll have a happy ending, Professor Crumps announces he's retiring and appoints Justin his replacement, so that he can become a full wizard instead. Ok, [[TranquilFury this infuriates me]]. 1) Since when did Justin ever think Alex deserves the right to be a full wizard? He's made it clear before he doesn't think she deserves magic because she always abuses it. Why? Because, she totally does! Alex is always being reclass and causing trouble with magic, to the point she comes off as a DesignatedHero. But, because she saved him, he decides to change his opinion? Didn't he get really mad when others ignored all the bad she did to award her for saving the world once? 2) If they wanted to have Justin give up the power, why not just show the damn scene first instead of flashing back to it? Did they want to make it a plot twist? Well, too bad, they failed! Why didn't they just make it clear before what happened, or better yet, just let her win and give Justin another reason to be awarded the power by Crumps. 3) Why did she even have to win in the first place? Like I said, Alex is constantly abusing magic and causes all the trouble she gets into. Justin isn't [[NotSoDifferent always that much better]], but he's usually only such because Alex does something to set him off. Why not just let Justin win? Oh, because of her and Mason, the boyfriend she would have to break up with. But, he's an immortal werewolf who will apparently never grow up, Twilight Vampire style. She's going to get older, he's not, so eventually they'll have to break up. 4) The Crumps thing came completely out of nowhere. Why not announce at the begining he was retiring, or a few episodes ago and build up to it? This is the problem with DeusExMachina endings, they can easily be averted by hinting/forshadowing/building up to it. All in all, the ending was just lazily written.

* Tropers/{{syrus372}}: Series/{{Jessie}}: I don't mean to start any flame wars but personally dislike Jessie by itself but the episode Diary of a Mad Newswoman is an all-time low. Basically, it says instead of facing the consequences, you should try to come back and trick them. Of course Zuri says she's sorry but I still think it portrays the wrong message.