History ComicBook / MidnightNation

6th Mar '15 11:34:39 AM MarkLungo
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->''"Okay, let's run through it again. See if it makes any more sense this time than the last time. I've been attacked. I've had my soul stolen. I've slipped through a metaphorical crack in the sidewalk and ended up in the place of abandoned objects and dispossessed people. And if I don't get my soul back in less than a year, I'll end up dead or one of the things that prowl this side of the metaphor. Any way you slice it, it's been a hell of a week."''
--> -David Grey

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->''"Okay, [[LetMeGetThisStraight let's run through it again.again]]. See if it makes any more sense this time than the last time. I've been attacked. I've had my soul stolen. I've slipped through a metaphorical crack in the sidewalk and ended up in the place of abandoned objects and dispossessed people. And if I don't get my soul back in less than a year, I'll end up dead or one of the things that prowl this side of the metaphor. Any way you slice it, it's been a hell of a week."''
--> -David Grey
-->--'''David Grey'''
28th Nov '14 1:53:59 PM theAdeptRogue
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''Midnight Nation'' is a religious-themed twelve-issue American comic book limited series, created by Creator/JMichaelStraczynski (he of ''Series/BabylonFive'' fame) and published from 2000 to 2002 by TopCow Productions under their now defunct Joe's Comics imprint. It is about a man who is killed, in a sense, and is on a journey to save his soul.

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''Midnight Nation'' is a religious-themed twelve-issue American comic book limited series, created by Creator/JMichaelStraczynski (he of ''Series/BabylonFive'' fame) and published from 2000 to 2002 by TopCow Top Cow Productions under their now defunct Joe's Comics imprint. It is about a man who is killed, in a sense, and is on a journey to save his soul.
11th Jul '14 2:29:34 PM Quanyails
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* TheSadisticChoice: [[spoiler:David's choice comes down to reclaiming his soul (but becoming part of the Walkers in doing so) or giving it up, letting Laurel have it so she can live a mortal life, (but David will, they think, remain in limbo forever). Ultimately, the story isn't about the choice between good and evil, but between whether to sacrifice yourself for someone else's sake or sacrificing another for your benefit.]]

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* TheSadisticChoice: SadisticChoice: [[spoiler:David's choice comes down to reclaiming his soul (but becoming part of the Walkers in doing so) or giving it up, letting Laurel have it so she can live a mortal life, (but David will, they think, remain in limbo forever). Ultimately, the story isn't about the choice between good and evil, but between whether to sacrifice yourself for someone else's sake or sacrificing another for your benefit.]]
9th Jun '14 2:36:13 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* BreakThemByTalking: Satan spends most of issue 9 doing this to David, almost as if he's giving a HannibalLecture to God but with only David there to hear. Of course, then he punctuates it with MindRape rather than letting the point stand...
* CameBackWrong: Lazarus. Yes, ''the'' Lazarus. And there is at least some implication that this helped to either create or expand the limbo David finds himself in.

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* BreakThemByTalking: Satan spends most of issue 9 doing this to David, almost as if he's giving a HannibalLecture it to God but with only David there to hear. Of course, then Then he punctuates it with MindRape rather than letting the point stand...
* CameBackWrong: Lazarus. Yes, ''the'' Lazarus. And Lazarus, and there is at least some implication that this helped to either create or expand the limbo David finds himself in.
5th May '14 5:52:30 PM TheWanderer
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* CreatorBreakdown: JMS writes in the afterward that it was a breakdown in the 70s that give him the idea of there being different worlds that live right besides each other: while out on long walks, he couldn't help comparing the way a city would look during the daytime and the people that would populate it versus the much seedier side, (in the same location) at night.



* TheSadisticChoice: [[spoiler:David's choice comes down to reclaiming his soul (but becoming part of the Walkers in doing so) or giving it up, letting Laurel have it so she can live a mortal life, (but David will, they think, remain in limbo forever). Ultimately, the story isn't about the choice between good and evil, but between self-sacrifice or sacrificing another for your own sake.]]

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* TheSadisticChoice: [[spoiler:David's choice comes down to reclaiming his soul (but becoming part of the Walkers in doing so) or giving it up, letting Laurel have it so she can live a mortal life, (but David will, they think, remain in limbo forever). Ultimately, the story isn't about the choice between good and evil, but between self-sacrifice whether to sacrifice yourself for someone else's sake or sacrificing another for your own sake.benefit.]]
4th May '14 1:36:25 PM LongLiveHumour
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* PlaceWorseThanDeath: NewYorkCity, apparently. At least due to the influence of Satan and the Walkers. At some points it looks suspiciously like FireAndBrimstoneHell.

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* PlaceWorseThanDeath: NewYorkCity, UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, apparently. At least due to the influence of Satan and the Walkers. At some points it looks suspiciously like FireAndBrimstoneHell.
8th Apr '14 12:57:16 PM TheWanderer
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* GangInitiationFight: One of the Lost People describes having gone through the realistic version of this trope.
11th Jul '13 9:44:35 PM Nerrin
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* CursedWithAwesome: [[spoiler:David in the DistantFinale. He's soulless, but it mostly just means he can't properly die and move on, meaning he's functionally immortal and can interact with both worlds. He chooses to use this "cursed" state to help people on both sides of the divide, bringing lost people back the world.]]

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* CursedWithAwesome: [[spoiler:David in the DistantFinale. He's soulless, but it mostly just means he can't properly die and move on, meaning he's functionally immortal and can interact with both worlds. He chooses to use this "cursed" state to help people on both sides of the divide, bringing lost people back to the world.]]
11th Jul '13 9:43:28 PM Nerrin
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--> David Grey

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--> David -David Grey
11th Jul '13 9:30:14 PM Nerrin
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->''"Okay, let's run through it again. See if it makes any more sense this time than the last time. I've been attacked. I've had my soul stolen. I've slipped through a metaphorical crack in the sidewalk and ended up in the place of abandoned objects and dispossessed people. And if I don't get my soul back in less than a year, I'll end up dead or one of the things that prowl this side of the metaphor. Any way you slice it, it's been a hell of a week."''
--> David Grey



* BaldBlackLeaderGuy: Arthur, leader of some of the Lost People, and one of the few Lost People we meet who did not wind up that way through his own actions, apathy, or unwillingness to change.

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* BaldBlackLeaderGuy: Arthur, leader of some of the Lost People, and one of the few Lost People we meet who did not wind up that way through his own actions, apathy, or unwillingness to change. [[spoiler:He's also one of the first to come back to the world, regaining his hope at the sight of Laurel's ensoulment flaring like a beacon across the world and just dropping back into reality as a result.]]



* BreakThemByTalking: Satan spends most of issue 9 doing this to David, almost as if he's giving a HannibalLecture to God but with only David there to hear. Of course, then he punctuates it with MindRape rather than letting the point stand...



* CursedWithAwesome: [[spoiler:David in the DistantFinale. He's soulless, but it mostly just means he can't properly die and move on, meaning he's functionally immortal and can interact with both worlds. He chooses to use this "cursed" state to help people on both sides of the divide, bringing lost people back the world.]]



** The Walkers. They're all [[spoiler:people who have gone on the "long walk" with angels like Laurel to New York City in search of their stolen souls.]]



** It is, according to Laurel, actually the only place in the world where the "sides" are flipped - all the normal people refuse to see it for what it is, so they force themselves into the shadow-world to see New York as they want to see it. Meanwhile, all the lost people are in the real New York, because they can't help but see it as it actually is - a literal HellOnEarth because Satan's influence is so strong there.



* SatanIsGood: Sort of. Here, he's pretty much the first WellIntentionedExtremist crossed with WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, seeking to undo creation in order to end needless human suffering, and because God has refused to allow any criticism of it.
* TheSoulless: Walkers.

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* SatanIsGood: Sort of. Here, he's pretty much the first WellIntentionedExtremist crossed with WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, seeking to undo creation in order to end needless human suffering, and because God has refused to allow any criticism of it.
it. Still, Satan has pretty much JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope because his methods go far, far beyond "well-intentioned" by this point.
* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Very, very cynical overall, but mostly to give some extra punch to the more hopeful ending. Satan fairly drips with cynicism while preaching his own twistedly hopeful message of hopelessness.
* TheSoulless: Walkers. [[spoiler:Averted, because it turns out the Walkers all took their souls back when offered. It's because they chose themselves over giving the soul up for someone else that they became Walkers, because what they let go of was their ''humanity'' and so became Satan's willing servants. It turns out losing your soul just makes you potentially immortal and able to interact with both worlds at once.]]


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* WeUsedToBeFriends: [[spoiler:Satan and Laurel. Though in this case, it's the villain saying as much to try to convince Laurel to give up the pain and suffering, and join him in rebellion.]]
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