History Characters / TheLordOfTheRings

1st Jul '17 9:46:05 AM DustSnitch
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* NothingIsScarier: The full capabilities of the Ring are never really explained or understood, to the characters or the reader. This is because it, like its creator Sauron, are not truly of Middle Earth: their nature [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow is beyond mortal comprehension]]. This becomes all the more scary as the Ring's power and sentience grows as it nears its source, and its malignant influence begins to find footholds in Frodo's mind.

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* NothingIsScarier: The full capabilities of the Ring are never really explained or understood, to the characters or the reader. This is because it, like its creator Sauron, are is not truly of Middle Earth: their its nature [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow is beyond mortal comprehension]]. This becomes all the more scary as the Ring's power and sentience grows as it nears its source, and its malignant influence begins to find footholds in Frodo's mind.
19th Jun '17 5:15:17 PM Farnham
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* {{Determinator}}: It's often overlooked, but he used the palantir for ''years'' to contest his will against Sauron's, but was not overpowered the way Saruman was (despite Sarumon being a Maia, a being on the same order as Sauron). The reason Sauron shifted from attempting to dominate Denethor directly to pushing him over the DespairEventHorizon was ''because'' Denethor's will was too strong.

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* {{Determinator}}: It's often overlooked, but he used the palantir for ''years'' to contest his will against Sauron's, but was not overpowered the way Saruman was (despite Sarumon being a Maia, a being on the same order as Sauron). The reason Sauron shifted from attempting to dominate Denethor directly to pushing him over the DespairEventHorizon was ''because'' Denethor's will was too strong. It is also stated that Denethor was protected from corruption by the fact that he, as Steward ruling in the king's stead, possessed the legitimacy to use the palantir, something that Saruman lacked.
30th May '17 7:00:36 PM priestessofdan
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** As the daughter of Finarfin and the highest ranking Noldorin Elf left in Middle-earth, she ''could'' have rightfully been crowned as the actual High Queen ''but'' for the pesky fact that Noldorin tradition doesn't allow for female heirs to ascend to the throne so the title of High King automatically went to her great-nephew Gil-galad instead.

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** As the daughter of Finarfin and the highest ranking Noldorin Elf left in Middle-earth, she ''could'' have rightfully been crowned as become the actual High Queen ''but'' after the death of her kinsman Gil-galad, but neither she nor Elrond (a descendant of her cousin Turgon) succeeded as monarch for the pesky fact that Noldorin tradition doesn't allow for female heirs to ascend to the throne so the title of High King automatically went to her great-nephew Gil-galad instead.unknown reasons.
24th May '17 11:31:34 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* GoodIsNotNice: The first time he appears, he berates and frightens Frodo. [[GenreSavvy As he puts it himself]], 'I look foul and feel fair'.

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* GoodIsNotNice: The first time he appears, he berates and frightens Frodo. [[GenreSavvy As he puts it himself]], himself, 'I look foul and feel fair'.



* GenreSavvy: He's wise enough to understand that it's probably better to have as little as possible to do with a weapon designed by the Enemy.
20th May '17 4:59:21 AM Scabbard
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* {{Pride}}: One of his defining trait. [[spoiler:and one which leads to his downfall]]

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* {{Pride}}: One of his defining trait. [[spoiler:and one which leads to his downfall]]downfall]].
20th May '17 4:58:28 AM Scabbard
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** He tends to raise objections, suggest alternate (and infeasible) plans, raise issues and generally grumble. [[SourSupporter He's brave and reliable, but he's not cheerful about it.]].

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** He tends to raise objections, suggest alternate (and infeasible) plans, raise issues and generally grumble. [[SourSupporter He's brave and reliable, but he's not cheerful about it.]].]]
20th May '17 3:04:44 AM Scabbard
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* ThisIsYourBrainOnEvil: Due to the Ring's influence he became [[NotSoDifferent Gollum-like in his mannerisms]], as pointed out by Gandalf. No, he has not begun to ''look'' Gollum-like just yet ([[spoiler: well, if you've read the books, he thankfully never does reach that stage]]), but his hunger and his growing obsession over the Ring is certainly a stepping stone towards reaching the Gollum stage. When he sees the One Ring in Frodo's possession in Rivendell, he briefly falls under its power again, causing Frodo to perceive him as a little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands. However, Bilbo quickly comes to his senses again, and he immediately apologizes and requests that Frodo never show him the Ring again.

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* ThisIsYourBrainOnEvil: Due to the Ring's influence he became [[NotSoDifferent Gollum-like in his mannerisms]], as pointed out by Gandalf. No, he has not begun to ''look'' Gollum-like just yet ([[spoiler: well, ([[spoiler:well, if you've read the books, he thankfully never does reach that stage]]), but his hunger and his growing obsession over the Ring is certainly a stepping stone towards reaching the Gollum stage. When he sees the One Ring in Frodo's possession in Rivendell, he briefly falls under its power again, causing Frodo to perceive him as a little wrinkled creature with a hungry face and bony groping hands. However, Bilbo quickly comes to his senses again, and he immediately apologizes and requests that Frodo never show him the Ring again.
5th May '17 8:45:11 AM Lyendith
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* AdaptedOut: The three chapters where he appears were completely left out of the film (his name isn't even mentionned), although a few of his lines were given to Treebeard in the extended cut of ''The Two Towers''.



* ImmuneToMindControl: The Ring does not strictly control minds, but it does have a strong ability to warp whoever is wearing it into an evil mutant of what they once were. Not Tom Bombadil, however. Tom is not impressed by the Ring at all, and casually plays with it before handing it back to Frodo.

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* ImmuneToMindControl: The Ring does not strictly control minds, but it does have a strong ability to warp whoever is wearing it into an evil mutant of what they once were. Not Tom Bombadil, however. Tom is not impressed by the Ring at all, and casually plays with it before handing it back to Frodo. It seems he can even see Frodo when he's wearing it.
5th May '17 8:36:44 AM Lyendith
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* DubNameChange: "Frodon Sacquet" in French ("sac" meaning "bag").


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* DubNameChange: "Bilbon Sacquet" in French (the first translation of ''Literature/TheHobbit'' named him "Bilbo Bessac", but the films used the later version).
5th May '17 6:28:41 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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** It is notable that even the Valar is unable to understand exactly what or who Tom is. It is said that after immediately they had created the world, they discovered, much to their puzzlement, that Tom was just ''there'', for some reason, and none of them could explain how that happened.

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** It is notable that even the Valar is unable to understand exactly what or who Tom is. It is said that after immediately they had created the world, they discovered, much to their puzzlement, that Tom was just ''there'', already existed in it. The Valar were all sure that they were not responsible for some reason, creating Tom, and none of them therefore could not explain how that happened.his existence; he just was ''there'' all of a sudden.
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