History Characters / SomethingPositive

13th Apr '17 5:28:25 AM hullflyer
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* TheNotLoveInterest: To Davan, something he decided long after the fact, and to Mike, on the grounds that it was one-sided infatuation and Mike had blown any chance at something deeper.

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* TheNotLoveInterest: To Davan, something he decided long after the fact, and to Mike, on the grounds that it was a one-sided infatuation and Mike had blown any chance at something deeper.
15th Feb '17 10:05:34 AM Visp
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* SincerestFormOfFlattery: When Monette gets the chance to write for her TV show, she [[{{WriteWhoYouKnow}} creates a character that is a clear Expy of Davan]]- to the point of using some lines that Davan's previously said.



--> An antagonistic, whiny nerd, Mike was obsessive and whiny, always insisted on being right, and made "friends" with girls in hopes of seducing them. Basically, he was Randy's version of a lot of needy, misogynistic geeks who chase after women. Eventually he made real efforts to change, found a girl, had a baby... and then broke down again, chasing some friends off. Usually, if the plot requires some regular character to [[StrawCharacter be wrong]], it'll be Mike. He's still sometimes sympathetic, but he's usually the universe's ButtMonkey.

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--> An antagonistic, whiny nerd, Mike was obsessive and whiny, always insisted on being right, and made "friends" with girls in hopes of seducing them. Basically, he was Randy's version of a lot of needy, misogynistic geeks who chase after women. Eventually he made real efforts to change, found a girl, had a baby... and then broke down again, chasing some friends off. Usually, if the plot requires some regular character to [[StrawCharacter be wrong]], it'll be Mike. He's still sometimes sympathetic, but he's usually the universe's ButtMonkey.
13th Feb '17 3:28:37 PM Qube
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* TheChewToy: ...Let's say his first day as Pythagorean was ''not' kind to him.

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* TheChewToy: ...Let's say his first day as Pythagorean was ''not' ''not'' kind to him.
10th Jan '17 12:44:24 AM Qube
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* MistakenForGay: His Pythagorean costume is an all-purple affair with a large rainbow triangle on the forehead. Mike insists it's a mathematical reference, but his friends are understandably concerned other people might not get it, with his wife likening it to a giant "I cordially invite you to fuck with my" sign.

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* MistakenForGay: His Pythagorean costume is an all-purple affair with a large rainbow triangle on the forehead. Mike insists it's a mathematical reference, but his friends are understandably concerned other people might not get it, with his wife likening it to a giant "I cordially invite you to fuck with my" me" sign.
10th Jan '17 12:31:26 AM Qube
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* AffectionateNickname: "Monkey Butter", for Aubrey.



* BetterAsFriends: Decided this about himself and Peejee and reveals it to her long after the fact.
* ComedicSociopathy: He makes fun of all his closest friends.

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* BetterAsFriends: Decided this about himself and Peejee [=PeeJee=] and reveals it to her long after the fact.
* ComedicSociopathy: He makes fun of all his closest friends. Notably, when Mike is surprised that Davan is acting friendly instead of "making fun of me like you usually do", Davan points out that if he and the others ''wouldn't'' make fun of him if they didn't like him.



* TheEeyore: A DeconstructedTrope on a bad day as it is often shown that the constant negativity he gives off has had a ''very'' bad affect on his life, often in his relationships with women. It's also shown that he doesn't handle positive behavior from others well, either annoying him or leaving him confused.

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* TheEeyore: A DeconstructedTrope on a bad day as it is often shown that the [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed.]] The constant negativity he gives off has had a ''very'' bad affect on his life, often in his relationships with women. It's also shown that he doesn't handle positive behavior from others well, either annoying him or leaving him confused.



* FreudianExcuse: [[PlayingWithATrope Played with.]] The large amount of misfortune that has happened to his family definitely feeds into Davan's cynical outlook on life but isn't clearly defined as the cause of it.

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* FreudianExcuse: [[PlayingWithATrope Played with.]] The large amount of misfortune that has happened to his family definitely feeds into Davan's cynical outlook on life life, but isn't clearly defined as the cause of it.



* [[spoiler: HappilyMarried: With Vanessa.]]

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* [[spoiler: HappilyMarried: [[spoiler: With Vanessa.]]



* IgnoredEnemy: Ollie Pompey, the badly abused nephew of the late (and horrifyingly nasty) theatre director Avagadro Pompey, really, really hates Davan, to the point of wanting to destroy him. Davan hadn't realized this, and mostly found it pathetic when he found out.

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* IgnoredEnemy: Ollie Pompey, the badly abused nephew of the late (and horrifyingly nasty) theatre director Avagadro Pompey, really, really ''really'' hates Davan, to the point of wanting to destroy him. Davan hadn't realized this, and mostly found it pathetic when he found out.



* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished

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%% * NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished



* [[spoiler:TheyDo]]: With Vanessa, at the end of 2013.

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* [[spoiler:TheyDo]]: With TheyDo: [[spoiler:With Vanessa, at the end of 2013. 2013.]]



* FagHag
* GenreSavvy
* KaleidoscopeHair: For a long time, Peejee would have constantly changing hair, until Randy got tired of changing it.
* KnightInSourArmor
* TheNotLoveInterest
* PlatonicLifePartners: With Davan.
* VitriolicBestBuds: With everyone.

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* FagHag
*
%%* GenreSavvy
* KaleidoscopeHair: For a long time, Peejee [=PeeJee=] would have constantly changing hair, until Randy got tired of changing it.
* %%* KnightInSourArmor
* TheNotLoveInterest
TheNotLoveInterest: To Davan, something he decided long after the fact, and to Mike, on the grounds that it was one-sided infatuation and Mike had blown any chance at something deeper.
* PlatonicLifePartners: With Davan.
Davan, and...
* VitriolicBestBuds: With everyone.Aubrey. Everyone else is [[ComedicSociopathy fair game]], though largely in the earlier days.



* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: She & [=PeeJee=] got away with this ''a lot''.

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* AffectionateNickname: "Woogie", for Davan.
* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: She & [=PeeJee=] got away with this ''a lot''.lot'' in the early days, often as the [[ComedicSociopathy punchline]] to a comic strip.



* LikeBrotherAndSister: With Davan.

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* LikeBrotherAndSister: With Davan.Davan, whom she grew up with.



* NightmareFetishist
* RelationshipUpgrade: With Jason.

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* NightmareFetishist
NightmareFetishist: Do not share disturbing ideas with Aubrey, unless you are actively looking to provide her with potential business endeavors.
* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Curiously enough, she runs a tight ship over at Nerdrotica, her combination tech support/phone sex company. Her early sadistic antics do not translate over to her employees, who at worst suffer harmless pranks or demeaning (but necessary) job details.
* RelationshipUpgrade: With Eventually marries (and adopts a child with) Jason.



* BigScrewedUpFamily: Setting aside his horrible relationship with his father, Jason also has circus workers (clowns, specifically) in his family tree. When his daugher [=PamGee=] discovered this, [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior she was positively]] ''[[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior giddy]]''.
* GirlOnGirlIsHot: At one point Aubrey and [=PeeJee=] tease him with the possibility of a threesome, though only to mess with him.



* RelationshipUpgrade: With Aubrey.
* {{Troll}}: Especially when working together with Davan.

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* RelationshipUpgrade: With Eventually marries (and adopts a child with) Aubrey.
* {{Troll}}: Especially when working together with Davan. Davan.
** And given his delight at being given their own parking space for parent-teacher conferences, this appears to be his approach to parenting.



* ActionSurvivor
* AlphaBitch

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* ActionSurvivor
* AlphaBitch
ActionSurvivor: Extremely bad, typically illegal, and occasionally lethal things end up happening around Kharisma, with or without her knowledge. A large part of her CharacterDevelopment is evolving from a [[AlphaBitch repulsive]], flighty, [[GoldDigger gold-digging]] brat into a scarred, street-tough, half-mad ex-con.



* TheBrainlessBeauty

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* TheBrainlessBeauty TheBrainlessBeauty: Pre-CharacterDevelopment, Kharisma was by her own admission "a cheerleader in high school who specialized in seducing nerds", a mindset that carried into her adult life.



* LaserGuidedKarma
* PetTheDog: She did this a few times, mainly to Davan.
* RichBitch

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* LaserGuidedKarma
ImaginaryFriend: Fluffmodeus, aka "The Little Blue Thing". Whether it is just a manifestation of Kharisma's fear and woefully underdeveloped survival instincts, or a separate and ill-meaning entity who only shows itself to Kharisma has been a matter left deliberately ambiguous.
* InsistentTerminology: No, Kharisma, the police aren't going to lift the murder charges just because at the time Avagadro died you were merely ''"trying"'' to kill him "with his blessing". Enjoy prison.
** Fluffmodeus meanwhile has a somewhat sinister habit of always calling Kharisma "''New'' Friend".
* LaserGuidedKarma: ''Look up''. Nearly every bad thing that has happened to Kharisma has been a direct result of her own poor judgement, before prison anyway.
* PetTheDog: She did this a A rare few times, mainly times: Notably, she gave Aubrey the idea for Nerdrotica, her combination tech support/phone sex company, and beseeched Davan to Davan.
quit his horribly medical billing job, telling him "I wouldn't wish it on the worst person in the world. Or you, either."
* RichBitchRichBitch: Though only due to aggressive [[GoldDigger gold-digging]]. Prior to her stint in prison, Kharisma's only marketable skill was identifying the most successful (and receptive) man in the room and bedding him.



* TookALevelInBadass: Kharisma's skill at seduction and gold-digging didn't translate very well to life in prison, forcing her to drop the spoiled brat routine and [[HADToBeSharp sharpen up lest she get killed]]. Now that she's on the run and doing various extra-legal things to provide for herself (including leg-breaking and drug-running), "Nancy" is almost a [[DiscardAndDraw completely different character]].



* BiTheWay

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* BiTheWay%%* BiTheWay: Sorry, fellow tropers, but I just don't know how not to make this a zero-context example



* TheChewToy

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* TheChewToy TheChewToy: ...Let's say his first day as Pythagorean was ''not' kind to him.



* TheFriendNobodyLikes: How he's introduced; it's not clear at first why anyone would hang out with a {{Jerkass}} like him.
* JerkassHasAPoint: One of the major signs of Mike's improvement involved this - Peejee was becoming increasingly angry at work because her boss' new girlfriend was blatantly and unapologetically racist (particularly towards Asians like Peejee). Aubrey called a meeting to reveal a plan to mollify Peejee, and Mike objected due to it not solving the underlying problem. For one, it showed Mike showing genuine concern for another person with no angle towards himself. For another, it showed that everyone else agreed with him, only disagreeing as the distraction was useful as a stopgap measure - they were treating him as an equal and friend.
* {{Munchkin}}

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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: How he's introduced; it's not clear at first why anyone would hang out with a {{Jerkass}} like him, though he eventually grows out of it.
* HeroWithBadPublicity: [[AvertedTrope Averted]]. Turns out there's a whole bunch of folks in town doing the "dress in a superhero costume and do community service" gig, but Pythagorean is one of the first to gain ''positive'' recognition as something other than "some geek in a cape"...
** HumbleHero: ...Which makes Pythagorean something of a minor celebrity, a fact Mike was completely unaware of until a group of other "capes" help him escape a shady blogger bent on publicly unmasking
him.
* JerkassHasAPoint: One of the major signs of Mike's improvement involved this - Peejee [=PeeJee=] was becoming increasingly angry at work because her boss' new girlfriend was blatantly and unapologetically racist (particularly towards Asians like Peejee). [=PeeJee=]). Aubrey called a meeting to reveal a plan to mollify Peejee, [=PeeJee=], and Mike objected due to it not solving the underlying problem. For one, it showed Mike showing genuine concern for another person with no angle towards himself. For another, it showed that everyone else agreed with him, only disagreeing as the distraction was useful as a stopgap measure - they were treating him as an equal and friend.
* {{Munchkin}}MistakenForGay: His Pythagorean costume is an all-purple affair with a large rainbow triangle on the forehead. Mike insists it's a mathematical reference, but his friends are understandably concerned other people might not get it, with his wife likening it to a giant "I cordially invite you to fuck with my" sign.
* {{Munchkin}}: A bad habit that makes playing with him almost untenable; If he can't play his ridiculously overpowered amalgamation of stats, feats, and equipment that almost resembles a character if you squint a bit, he'll pout and complain the whole time.



* NonPoweredCostumedHero: He becomes this to an extreme. His daily heroics as Pythagorean include helping people with their groceries, finding lost pets and generally just being a nice guy and he is well loved by the community at large for it.

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* NonPoweredCostumedHero: He becomes this One day he decided he wanted to an extreme.affect a positive change on his community, specifically by becoming a superhero. His daily heroics as Pythagorean include helping people with their groceries, finding lost pets and generally just being a nice guy and he is well loved by the community at large for it.



* StrawLoser

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* %%* StrawLoser



* StraightMan

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* %%* StraightMan



* GrumpyOldMan
* KnightInSourArmor
* ScrewPolitenessImASenior

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* GrumpyOldMan
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GrumpyOldMan: Must be where Davan gets it, 'cuz the boy ''damn'' sure didn't get it from Faye.
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KnightInSourArmor
* ScrewPolitenessImASeniorScrewPolitenessImASenior: Quite a few examples, but this one stands out; His response to a "Hell House"[[note]]a fundamentalist soapboxing masquerading as a haunted house [[/note]] telling him he has to "choose Jesus" if he wants to leave is to sit down in the middle of the floor.



* DeadpanSnarker / DisabledSnarker

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* %%* DeadpanSnarker / DisabledSnarker



* BiTheWay
* BunnyEarsLawyer / {{CloudCuckoolander}}: For example, there'll be days where she just walks around in a kaiju outfit like someone wearing a t-shirt and jeans.
* CovertPervert

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* BiTheWay
BiTheWay: She's a bigger fan of strip clubs than Davan, no less.
* BunnyEarsLawyer / {{CloudCuckoolander}}: For example, BunnyEarsLawyer: Once she got a taste of that kaiju power, there was no going back; there'll be days where she just walks around in a kaiju outfit like someone wearing a t-shirt and jeans.
* CovertPervert{{CloudCuckoolander}}: Her mind goes to weird places sometimes, which she is self-conscious of: She ends her first date with Davan by telling him she's going to go inside to "unleash all the clumsy and crazy I've been holding in all evening", and after prefacing it by making sure she won't "scare [him] away with [her] crazy", she likens her love for Davan to a small lizard that has found the perfect sunning rock; He makes her "lizard-happy".
* CovertPervert: She's bisexual, and just as dirty-minded as everyone else; This tends to be easily forgotten due to just how damn cute she is.
* TheCutie: Endearingly awkward, petite, nerdy, and cute as a button; Occasionally dresses up as a giant monster... Which is to say she's exactly the same size, but now wearing an adorable monster costume.



* [[spoiler: HappilyMarried: With Davan.]]
* TheCutie
* TheIngenue: Has shades of this.
* [[spoiler:TheyDo]]: At the end of 2013.

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* [[spoiler: HappilyMarried: [[spoiler: With Davan.]]
* TheCutie
* TheIngenue: Has shades of this.
* [[spoiler:TheyDo]]: At
TheyDo: [[spoiler:At the end of 2013.
2013, wearing matching kaiju costumes, no less.]]



* TheAlcoholic: His primary hobby besides "produce plays of dubious quality" seems to be "drinking expensive alcohol".



* EccentricMillionaire
* DeadpanSnarker

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* EccentricMillionaire
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EccentricMillionaire: Rarely if ever are profits or losses mentioned in conjunction with the plays he produces, and yet his fortune endures, so either the plays are successful or he's got money to burn.
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DeadpanSnarker



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Listens to Davan's advice but generally makes more sensible decisions
* SirSwearsalot: On occasion
* TheAlcoholic
* UnclePennybags: Very Wealthy

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Listens He's willing to listen to Davan's advice but generally makes more sensible decisions
* SirSwearsalot: On occasion
* TheAlcoholic
and shows him a fair deal of respect and leeway; A far cry from [[BadBoss Davan's boss at his Medicaid job]].
* UnclePennybags: Very Wealthywealthy, and very generous with that wealth.
16th Oct '16 1:05:11 PM BattleMaster
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* MamaBear: Brutally crushes the hand of a MonsterClown who attempts to threaten [=PamGee=].
29th Jun '16 1:30:27 AM DaScarecrow
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* FatalFlaw: His negativity. Davan embraces the inherent cynicism of the world he lives a little ''too'' much for even his own friends, notorious cynics in their own right, to be comfortable with and he can barely function when met with genuine positivity.
** This is actually the biggest problem he has in his relationships with other women as the ones that are willing to give him a chance are ultimately driven off by his pessimistic behavior. The only working relationships he has had have been with women that are a bit off in their own ways.
29th Jun '16 12:15:34 AM DaScarecrow
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* TheEeyore

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* TheEeyoreTheEeyore: A DeconstructedTrope on a bad day as it is often shown that the constant negativity he gives off has had a ''very'' bad affect on his life, often in his relationships with women. It's also shown that he doesn't handle positive behavior from others well, either annoying him or leaving him confused.


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* BenevolentBoss: Treats Davan more like a colleague than an employee and goes out of his way to ''try'' and help Davan have some fun in his life. Davan actually dislikes this, partly due to not handling positivity in any form well and partly because Sanderson's good intentions have a way of backfiring on Davan.
24th Jun '16 1:22:53 AM DaScarecrow
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* BetterAsFriends: Decided this about himself and Peejee and reveals it to her long after the fact.


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* FreudianExcuse: [[PlayingWithATrope Played with.]] The large amount of misfortune that has happened to his family definitely feeds into Davan's cynical outlook on life but isn't clearly defined as the cause of it.
* GenreSavvy: While others are worried about Ollie once he comes into a substantial inheritance, since he has a ''very'' large enmity towards Davan, Davan isn't as he has witnessed how incompetent Ollie actually is.
16th Jun '16 4:52:49 AM FuzzyBoots
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* BiggusDickus: Women have retracted in fear from it.

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* BiggusDickus: Women have retracted recoiled in fear from of it.



--> An early recurring antagonist, Kharisma was a high-and-mighty actress with a love for money, and a hatred for the ugly little people (like Davan). After doing many horrible things to many people, she met with a few PetTheDog moments by giving Davan some much needed advice about quitting his job. Then she got into a murder pact with Avagodro Pompey, got arrested, got broken out of jail, and now she's on the run with a possibly-real physic manifestation of annoyance called Fluffmodeus.

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--> An early recurring antagonist, Kharisma was a high-and-mighty actress with a love for money, and a hatred for the ugly little people (like Davan). After doing many horrible things to many people, she met with a few PetTheDog moments by giving Davan some much needed advice about quitting his job. Then she got into a murder pact with Avagodro Pompey, got arrested, got broken out of jail, and now she's on the run with a possibly-real physic psychic manifestation of annoyance called Fluffmodeus.



* SleepingWithTheBoss: Kharisma makes no secret that she'll sleep with anyone for advancement (and is later fired without ceremony when the boss' fetish goes from redheads to blondes), while Monette is accused of this by an older, uglier coworker.
--> '''Co-worker:''' At least all that lying on your back must have done wonders for your posture.
--> '''Monette:''' Well, seeing as your method gave you bad knees and rancid breath, I figured I'd do it differently.

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* SleepingWithTheBoss: Kharisma makes no secret that she'll sleep with anyone for advancement (and is later fired without ceremony when the boss' fetish goes from redheads to blondes), while Monette is accused of this by an older, uglier coworker.
--> '''Co-worker:''' At least all that lying on your back must have done wonders for your posture.
--> '''Monette:''' Well, seeing as your method gave you bad knees and rancid breath, I figured I'd do it differently.
blondes).



** However, after his CharacterDevelopment he now has a girlfriend, a baby, and the respect of his friends (well, as close to respect as Davan, Aubrey, et al can actually express) for his superhero career.

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** However, after his CharacterDevelopment he now has a girlfriend, a baby, and the respect of his friends (well, as close to respect as Davan, Aubrey, et al ''et al'' can actually express) for his superhero career.



* DisabilityAsAnExcuseForJerkassery: As a young boy, he was admitted to a hospital for an ear infection, where he was antagonized at every turn by a boy in a wheelchair. Eventually, Fred and his friends team up to scare him and teach him a lesson... [[spoiler: whereupon it is revealed that the boy is in the hospital for a heart condition, and the shock of the scare ends up killing him.]]
** And, not that he feels the need to make excuses, but Fred ''relishes'' being diagnosed with Alzheimer's because of the opportunities it allows him to fuck with people.

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* DisabilityAsAnExcuseForJerkassery: DisabilityAsAnExcuseForJerkassery:
**
As a young boy, he was admitted to a hospital for an ear infection, where he was antagonized at every turn by a boy in a wheelchair. Eventually, Fred and his friends team up to scare him and teach him a lesson... [[spoiler: whereupon it is revealed that the boy is in the hospital for a heart condition, and the shock of the scare ends up killing him.]]
** And, not Not that he feels the need to make excuses, but Fred ''relishes'' being diagnosed with Alzheimer's because of the opportunities it allows him to fuck with people.
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