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!!Supertrope-subtrope sorting

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!!Supertrope-subtrope !!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting

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* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.



* BadassBoast: Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\

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* BadassBoast: BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
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Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': --->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\


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* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
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'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
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'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.

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!! Quote indentation

When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.

'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.

Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.

'''Right'''
* BadassBoast: Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
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'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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* TheLeader: George is trying to save the world.

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* TheLeader: George is trying to save the world.leads TheTeam



** TheLeader: George is trying to save the world.

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** TheLeader: George is trying to save the world.leads TheTeam

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The Hero has been replaced by The Leader in the five man band


* FiveManBand: [[TheHero George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheHero: George is trying to save the world.

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* FiveManBand: [[TheHero [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheHero: George is trying to save the world.
team.



* TheLeader: George is trying to save the world.



** TheHero: George is trying to save the world.

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** TheHero: TheLeader: George is trying to save the world.
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All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.

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All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See HowToWriteAnExample.Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.



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** Alice displays this trope well on various occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has this with her when she is in Bob's house.

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** Alice displays this trope well on various many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this with her trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
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*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol''.

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*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol''.Carol'' around the climax.
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Or this...

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...Or this...
this:



** Alice displays this trope well on various occasions.

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** Alice displays this trope well on various occasions.occasions:
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** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.

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** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''''Alice ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
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Or this...

* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on various occasions.
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has this with her when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol''.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
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Note: If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.

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Note: If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
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Ending with ellipses (as in plural of \"ellipsis\", not of \"ellipse\") would make the entries look less like they are complete Zero Context Examples and more like complete entries that have been abbreviated.


* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to ...

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* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to ...to...



** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it

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** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out
out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it
it when...

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* FiveManBand: [[TheHero George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], [[TheChick Alice]]

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* FiveManBand: [[TheHero George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]]Alice]] work together as a team.

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The shortest version: If there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.

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The shortest version: If For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.

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* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.


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Note: If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.

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* {{Badass}}: Bob kicks ass a lot.

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* {{Badass}}: Bob kicks ass The show has a lot.lot of badasses.




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* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.



* {{Badass}}: Bob kicks ass a lot.

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* {{Badass}}: Bob kicks ass The show has a lot.lot of badasses.




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** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.



* TheBigGuy: Dave
* TheChick: Alice

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* TheBigGuy: Dave
Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: AliceAlice keeps the team together.



* TheHero: George
* TheLancer: Bob
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie

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* TheHero: George
George is trying to save the world.
* TheLancer: Bob
Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie
Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.



** TheHero: George
** TheLancer: Bob
** TheBigGuy: Dave
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie
** TheChick: Alice

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** TheHero: George
George is trying to save the world.
** TheLancer: Bob
Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave
Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie
Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice
Alice keeps the team together.

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!!Third bullets




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!!Supertrope-subtrope sorting

All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.

'''Right'''
* {{Badass}}: Bob kicks ass a lot.
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.

'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: Bob kicks ass a lot.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.

The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.

'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave
* TheChick: Alice
* FiveManBand: [[TheHero George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], [[TheChick Alice]]
* TheHero: George
* TheLancer: Bob
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie

'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheHero: George
** TheLancer: Bob
** TheBigGuy: Dave
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie
** TheChick: Alice

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(\"that\" = gender order)
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actually, changed that, to be reverse of Alice (female) and Bob (male)


Let's say ''Claire and Diane'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point. Like this:

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Let's say ''Claire and Diane'' David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point. Like this:



* ''Claire and Diane'': this trope is used when...

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* ''Claire and Diane'': David'': this trope is used when...
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changed names to start A B C D, hope that\'s cool


Let's say ''Carol and Susan'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point. Like this:

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Let's say ''Carol ''Claire and Susan'' Diane'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point. Like this:



* ''Carol and Susan'': this trope is used when...

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* ''Carol ''Claire and Susan'': Diane'': this trope is used when...
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Namespace shift


A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[TextFormattingRules header]], instead.

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A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[TextFormattingRules [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.

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Official word from up high is not to put subtropes as sub-bullets of supertropes.


Examples of situations where a third level bullet may validly be used on a work page:

* High Level Supertrope: Alice displays this trope and its variants a lot.
** Subtrope:
*** In episode 1, Alice...
*** In episode 12, Alice again...
** Subtrope: In episode 8, Alice displays this variant, instead, and...

Or on a trope page:

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Examples of situations where a third level bullet may validly be used on a work page:

* High Level Supertrope: Alice displays this trope and its variants a lot.
** Subtrope:
*** In episode 1, Alice...
*** In episode 12, Alice again...
** Subtrope: In episode 8, Alice displays this variant, instead, and...

Or on a trope page:
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
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You can tell my degree was not in English. >.<


* High Level Supertrope: Alice displays this trope and it's variants a lot.

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* High Level Supertrope: Alice displays this trope and it's its variants a lot.
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Examples of situations where a third level bullet may validly be used on a work page:

* High Level Supertrope: Alice displays this trope and it's variants a lot.
** Subtrope:
*** In episode 1, Alice...
*** In episode 12, Alice again...
** Subtrope: In episode 8, Alice displays this variant, instead, and...

Or on a trope page:

* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
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On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:

* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...

Or:

* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...

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There has been some confusion about how a list of examples, or anything else, should be indented/bulleted. Here we go with an answer.

The shortest version: If there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.

For more detail than that:

On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:

* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to ...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it

In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:

* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.

Let's say ''Carol and Susan'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point. Like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Carol and Susan'': this trope is used when...

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A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[TextFormattingRules header]], instead.

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