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In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
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In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), ). Instead, we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
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On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
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On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, example and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
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The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
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The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
with subtropes.
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* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheHeart: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheHeart Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
* TheHeart: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheHeart Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
to:
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheHeart:DishingOutDirt: Alice keeps is able to move chunks of dirt and cause small earthquakes.
* ElementalPowers: Most humans in this setting have an elemental affinity, an innate ability to manipulate a certain element. People with Water, Wind, Fire, and Earth affinity are common, though there are several others, including theteam together.
newly documented Light.
*FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], LightEmUp: Bob uses his light powers to send glowing BeamSpam at enemies, and [[TheHeart Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, buthe can also his rival for Alice's affection.
give himself flashlight hands.
*TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
* TheSmartGuy:MakingASplash: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
can summon rain and move globs of water around.
* PlayingWithFire: Dana can breathe fire and create fireballs, but she mostly uses her powers to heat up food.
* TheHeart:
* ElementalPowers: Most humans in this setting have an elemental affinity, an innate ability to manipulate a certain element. People with Water, Wind, Fire, and Earth affinity are common, though there are several others, including the
*
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but
*
* TheSmartGuy:
* PlayingWithFire: Dana can breathe fire and create fireballs, but she mostly uses her powers to heat up food.
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* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheHeart: Alice keeps the team together.
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheHeart: Alice keeps the team together.
to:
* FiveManBand
ElementalPowers:
**TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
DishingOutDirt: Alice is able to move chunks of dirt and cause small earthquakes.
**TheLancer: LightEmUp: Bob is George's best friend, but uses his light powers to send glowing BeamSpam at enemies, and he can also his rival for Alice's affection.
give himself flashlight hands.
**TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy:MakingASplash: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
can summon rain and move globs of water around.
**TheHeart: Alice keeps the team together.
PlayingWithFire: Dana can breathe fire and create fireballs, but she mostly uses her powers to heat up food.
**
**
**
** TheSmartGuy:
**
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* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
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* TheChick: TheHeart: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and[[TheChick [[TheHeart Alice]] work together as a team.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and
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** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
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** TheChick: TheHeart: Alice keeps the team together.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
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When multiple examples within a
Every trope should get its own first-level bullet. It's not acceptable to list two or more tropes on the same bullet. This most often takes the form of "tropeslashing": when two or more tropes apply to an example writeup, some folks have
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* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
to:
*
**
* PayEvilUntoEvil: When Alice takes revenge on Bob, she does so by sadistically torturing him, but since he did the same thing to her son, Alice doesn't think she's
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
* BestServedCold[=/=]PayEvilUntoEvil: It takes Alice twenty years to get revenge on Bob for killing her son, which she does by sadistically torturing him to death the same way he did her son.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
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Added DiffLines:
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
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The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
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* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
to:
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and still kicks ass.
wrestles bears.
*LittleMissBadass: TheChick: Alice is 9 years old keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], andtakes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing[[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all theparent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
team's gadgets.
*
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the
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* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam.
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
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** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
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** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
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** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
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** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
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** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
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** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
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*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
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*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
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A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
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A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode Administrivia/ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
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* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
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* TheLeader: George leads TheTeamTheTeam.
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** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
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** TheLeader: George leads TheTeamTheTeam.
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I think you have less of an issue with the indentation of the Five Man Band than we do. Right or wrong, which one is clearer?
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![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
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![[center:This is a widely accepted widely-accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
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This sounds important enough to deserve emphasis, given the large amount of tropers who don't understand it.
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The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
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The shortest version: Bullet '''Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. examples'''. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if '''if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
right'''.
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DIE, YOU HEARTLESS WIKIPEDIA FUCK, DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (PUNCHES YOU AGAIN FOR REVERTING ONCE MORE)
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There has been some confusion about how a list of examples, or anything else, should be indented/bulleted. Here we go with an answer.
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
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!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
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!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
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!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
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!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
to:
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been
The shortest version: Bullet points
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]).
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''':
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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DIE, YOU HEARTLESS WIKIPEDIA FUCK, DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (PUNCHES YOU AGAIN FOR REVERTING ONCE MORE)
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There has been some confusion about how a list of examples, or anything else, should be indented/bulleted. Here we go with an answer.
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
to:
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been
The shortest version: Bullet points
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]).
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''':
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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Changed line(s) 1,143 (click to see context) from:
There has been some confusion about how a list of examples, or anything else, should be indented/bulleted. Here we go with an answer.
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
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I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been
The shortest version: Bullet points
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]).
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''':
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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There has been some confusion about how a list of examples, or anything else, should be indented/bulleted. Here we go with an answer.
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
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![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
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!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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to:
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been
The shortest version: Bullet points
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]).
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
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!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
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!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''':
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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THIS STUPID GODDAMN BULLSHIT HAS GOTTA STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dx
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There has been some confusion about how a list of examples, or anything else, should be indented/bulleted. Here we go with an answer.
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
to:
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been
The shortest version: Bullet points
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]).
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''':
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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to:
The shortest version: Bullet points are for examples, not comments about examples. For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
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Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for friggin' ADAPTATIONS, NAMESAKE ARTICLES, SUBPAGES, and SUB-WIKIS, NOT workpages or "creator" pages or "Useful Notes" pages in GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't STOP spamming the ENTIRE FUCKING WIKI with your ENDLESS NAMESPACE BULLSHIT, I'm gonna TAKE DOWN these stupid ass articles for nonstop spamming and REMOVE them OFF the site completely, ''FOREVER'' AND '''EVER'''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D:<
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been TAKING OVER and INVADING the ENTIRE FUCKING SITE since fucking 2011, which PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm TRYING to STOP you guys from spamming your shitty ass namespaces ALL OVER random pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHY I GOT THESE STUPID NAMESPACE EFFORT PAGES LOCKED FOR '''GOOD''' SO ALL THIS ENDLESSLY REPETITIVE SPAM SHOULD BE '''OVER''' ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for friggin' ADAPTATIONS, NAMESAKE ARTICLES, SUBPAGES, and SUB-WIKIS, NOT workpages or "creator" pages or "Useful Notes" pages in GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't STOP spamming the ENTIRE FUCKING WIKI with your ENDLESS NAMESPACE BULLSHIT, I'm gonna TAKE DOWN these stupid ass articles for nonstop spamming and REMOVE them OFF the site completely, ''FOREVER'' AND '''EVER'''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D:<
to:
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT
The shortest version: For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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I HAVE *HAD IT* WITH ALL THIS BULLSHIT! D:<
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There has been some confusion about how a list of examples, or anything else, should be indented/bulleted. Here we go with an answer.
The shortest version: For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
The shortest version: For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at the indentation level, it ain't indented right.
For more detail than that:
On a works page, for example, we have a list of trope names. These get one bullet ([=*=]). If there is more than one example of the trope in the work, each of them gets two bullets ([=**=]) on their own line. If there is only one example, it goes on the line with the trope title. Like this:
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we don't add the text in with another bullet (** ), we use the [=\\=] markup to force a paragraph. Like this:
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
----
![[center:This is a widely accepted style standard, folks. Not something we just made up around here because we were bored.]]
----
!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
----
!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to the same example as the previous one. In the latter case, separate distinct quotes with a forced line break, using [=\=][=\=] on a blank line. This should be used only rarely.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
----
to:
I told you a MILLION FUCKING TIMES: This is '''TV TROPES''', NOT "TV NAMESPACES" or "WIKIPEDIA FOR SPAMMERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stupid, pointless, unstoppable NAMESPACE SPAM/PLAGUE SHIT has been
The shortest version: For any indentation level other than single bullet, if there is only one item at
For more detail than that:
On a works page,
Namespaces are SUPPOSED to be ONLY used for
* Trope Name: In episode "The Episode" (1x1), Alice uses this trope to...
* Another Trope:
** In "Another Episode" (1x2), Alice bangs it out...
** In "Yet Another Episode" (1x3), Bob subverts it when...
In a situation where the text of a bullet is too long, or needs a paragraph break for some other reason, we
* Yet Another Trope:
** In "Finale" (1x13), Alice bangs it out at great length.[=\\=]\\
[=\\=]\\
So much length, we need multiple paragraphs to explain the length.
** In "Finale" (1x13), Bob subverts it. That's what he does. He's subversive.
On a trope page, you will sometimes run into a situation where you want to list multiple examples from the same media or series. Don't list one example, and then indent the others under it. Instead, use:
* ''Alice and Bob'':
** In episode 2, this trope occurs when...
** In episode 21, this trope occurs again when...
Or:
* ''Alice and Bob Trilogy'':
** In ''Alice Alone'', the trope is seen...
** In ''Bob Meets Alice'', we see the trope again when...
Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
----
!!Third bullets
A three-bullet situation ([=***=]) usually indicates a comment on the item above it which has two bullets. This is a sign that the list is heading toward ThreadMode (discussion). That's not a good thing. The trope lists are not discussions. Discussions take place on the discussion pages or in the forums. However, three-bullet situations sometimes are legit. Rarely. If you find yourself needing a third level of indentation, take a look at using a [[Administrivia/TextFormattingRules header]], instead.
A legitimate three-bullet situation might look something like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'' Franchise:
** ''Alice Meets Bob'': The trope is in full effect in the opening sequence, when...
** ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning'':
*** When Bob is walking up to Alice...
*** In the background of the bar scene, you can see...
** ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'': In an echo of ''Alice Meets Bob''...
...Or this:
* Trope:
** Alice displays this trope well on many occasions:
*** ''Alice Meets Bob'' has her demonstrating this trope twice when she is in Bob's house.
*** She also shows this in ''Alice, Bob, and Carol'' around the climax.
** Bob has his own chance to shine in ''Alice Vs. Bob: The Reckoning''.
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!!SuperTrope-SubTrope sorting
All tropes in a list should be at the same level of indentation, and in alphabetical order. See Administrivia/HowToWriteAnExample. Subtropes should not be listed in sub-bullets beneath their parent tropes.
'''Right'''
* BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
* LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
If more applicable subtropes apply, listing the parent trope ({{Badass}}) is not recommended.
'''Wrong'''
* {{Badass}}: The show has a lot of badasses.
** BadassGrandpa: Bob has grandkids and still kicks ass.
** LittleMissBadass: Alice is 9 years old and takes out grown men.
The same applies for composite tropes like FiveManBand.
'''Right'''
* TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
* TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
* FiveManBand: [[TheLeader George]], [[TheLancer Bob]], [[TheBigGuy Dave]], [[TheSmartGuy Charlie]], and [[TheChick Alice]] work together as a team.
* TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
* TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
* TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
'''Wrong'''
* FiveManBand
** TheLeader: George leads TheTeam
** TheLancer: Bob is George's best friend, but also his rival for Alice's affection.
** TheBigGuy: Dave is 7 feet, 300 pounds, and wrestles bears.
** TheSmartGuy: Charlie invents all the team's gadgets.
** TheChick: Alice keeps the team together.
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!! Quote indentation
When multiple examples within a list have quotes, you need to make sure to indent and separate them correctly. A quote is designated with the "[=->=]" markup, with additional hyphens ('-') increasing indentation. You always want the quote indentation to be one level deeper than the bullet that they are related to.
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''':
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
-->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.
Of note, each quote should have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample explanatory example text]]. Don't leave a quote hanging without a parent bullet unless it applies to
'''Right'''
* BadassBoast:
** Alice tells Bob that she's going to beat up everyone.
--->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!
** Charlie has had enough of Alice's fooling around.
--->'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
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'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
'''Wrong'''
* BadassBoast:
-->'''Alice''': I'm going to beat up everyone!\\
\\
'''Charlie''': Alice, I am far more awesome than you.\\
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'''Charlie''': Alice, the time has come to show you how the big kids do things.
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Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point. Like this:
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
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Whenever the works are in different franchises, each separate franchise gets its own first-level point. Let's say ''Claire and David'' and ''Alice and Bob'' are two shows. Each should have a separate first-bullet point.
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
'''Right'''
* ''Alice and Bob'': this trope is used when...
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
'''Wrong'''
* ''Claire and David'': this trope is used when...
** ''Alice and Bob'' used it too when...
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