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** \\\"Training and hard work are essential no matter what\\\", is the overreaching lesson of the entire series. No matter how powerful or good at your craft you become, there is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' someone better out there. So keep practicing and keep learning, otherwise you will fall behind. Pure talent will also only gets you so far. If you don\\\'t work to improve your gifts, [[WeHaveBecomeComplacent you will find yourself lacking when you need to be sharp]]. Also, it\\\'s fine to give up and admit that you\\\'re not the best when you meet someone better than you. Take the lessons of losing and humility to heart and improve yourself. Every villain loses because they are the antithesis of this, but it\\\'s made especially clear in \\\'\\\'Resurrection \\\"F\\\"\\\'\\\', as the reasons for both of Frieza\\\'s defeats.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up and solved a problem when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat Kid Buu or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up and solved a problem when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat Kid Buu or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
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** \\\"Training and hard work are essential no matter what\\\", is the overreaching lesson of the entire series. No matter how powerful or good at your craft you become, there is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' someone better out there. So keep practicing and keep learning, otherwise you will fall behind. Pure talent will also only gets you so far. If you don\\\'t work to improve your gifts, [[WeHaveBecomeComplacent you will find yourself lacking when you need to be sharp]]. Also, it\\\'s fine to give up and admit that you\\\'re not the best when you meet someone better than you. Take the lessons of losing and humility to heart and improve yourself. Every villain loses because they are the antithesis of this, but it\\\'s made especially clear in \\\'\\\'Resurrection \\\"F\\\"\\\'\\\', as the reasons for both of Frieza\\\'s defeats.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up and solved a problem when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up and solved a problem when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
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** \\\"Training and hard work are essential no matter what\\\", is the overreaching lesson of the entire series. No matter how powerful or good at your craft you become, there is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' someone better out there. So keep practicing and keep learning, otherwise you will fall behind. Pure talent will also only gets you so far. If you don\\\'t work to improve your gifts, [[WeHaveBecomeComplacent you will find yourself lacking when you need to be sharp]]. Also, it\\\'s fine to give up and admit that you\\\'re not the best when you meet someone better than you. Take the lessons of losing and humility to heart and improve yourself. Every villain loses because they are the antithesis of this, but it\\\'s made especially clear in \\\'\\\'Resurrection \\\"F\\\"\\\'\\\', as the reasons for both of Frieza\\\'s defeats.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
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** \\\"Training and hard work are essential no matter what\\\", is the overreaching lesson of the entire series. No matter how powerful or good at your craft you become, there is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' someone better out there. So keep practicing and keep learning, otherwise you will fall behind. Pure talent will also only gets you so far. If you don\\\'t work to improve your gifts, [[WeHaveBecomeComplacent you will find yourself lacking when you need to be sharp]]. Also, it\\\'s fine to give up and admit that you\\\'re not the best when you meet someone better than you. Take the lessons of losing and humility to heart and improve yourself. Every villain loses because they are the antithesis of this, but it\\\'s made especially clear in \\\'\\\'Resurrection \\\"F\\\"\\\'\\\', as the reasons for both of Frieza\\\'s defeats.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
** Having a lot of pride in yourself is not necessarily a bad thing. It\\\'s when you are unable to put it aside that it becomes a detriment. Vegeta learns this lesson over and over again until it finally sticks at the end of the Kid Buu fight. Frieza being unable to let go of his pride led him to ruined and death, twice.
** You can\\\'t get stronger without [[RightMakesMight finding something good to fight for]]. Extending from the point above, using your power to bully or oppress others is a sign of weakness, because there are much more worthy things you could do with that power. Likewise, compassion is \\\'\\\'always\\\'\\\' the right thing to do. Goku shows absolutely everyone compassion, up until the point where he (or Gohan) has no choice (as with Frieza, Cell and Buu). This pure heart is what allows most of his enemies to eventually [[DefeatEqualsFriendship join his side]]. By contrast, people who only fight for pride (such as Frieza and Vegeta before CharacterDevelopment) tend to meet a horrible end until they learn their lesson.
There\\\'s no need to list overlapping themes as individual examples. We don\\\'t need word cruft like \\\"Vegeta learns this over and over again until it sticks\\\" or the \\\"ruined and death\\\" bit referring to Frieza. It doesn\\\'t add anything that isn\\\'t already said.
Also, I notice that Ramona seems to be insistent on the words \\\"give up\\\" being part of the aesop. I question this because no heroic character \\\'\\\'actually\\\'\\\' gave up when it mattered. Even the \\\"exceptions\\\" prove the rule. Goku fought Beerus until he literally couldn\\\'t anymore. He only gave up against Cell because he had a pinch fighter waiting (Gohan) and although he accepted that his strength wasn\\\'t enough to defeat or Frieza and resorted to the Spirit Bomb on both occasions.
\\\"Giving up\\\" carries specific semantic connotations that doesn\\\'t work here. The paragraph I rewrote deals with what is the closer theme: knowing your limits. Japanese culture has words like \\\"genkai\\\" and \\\"seishin\\\" that specifically go over this issue: Genkai (\\\"limit\\\") means to work or attempt something until your physical or mental limits do not allow you to go further. Seishin (translated on the TrainingFromHell.AnimeAndManga page) is then the task the person must take to overcome those limits.
Accepting your limits is very much part of the theme of DBZ. \\\"Giving up\\\" (again, which carries specific meaning in English) \\\'\\\'does not\\\'\\\'.
