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* There was no \\\"ninja raid\\\". 20 fighters, carrying out a sabotage mission, using a blizzard and the night as cover, in a land they were born in and likely know extremely well is nothing out of ordinary. Much less implausible than the Sons of the Harpy seemingly possessing infinite numbers, appearing out of nowhere and [[CurbStompBattle curb stomping]] entire battalions of [[SuperSoldier supersoldiers]].
* What Ramsay did or did not do in the books is irrelevant. His show version has been given a dose of AdaptationalAttractiveness (much like the rest of the cast) and he\\\'s shown to be in some sort of sexual relationship(s) with two women. Hardly enough to make one qualify as TheCasanova. It is also made clear that said mistresses are, more or less, a PaidHarem made-up of low-born girls he either dupes or charms by appealing to their own sadistic streak (e.i. Myranda & Violet).
* Most important of all, Ramsay doesn\\\'t meet the two overlaps found on a typical VillainSue. 1) He does not have a FreudianExcuse (his past as child-by-rape is never used to humanise him). 2) He\\\'s by no means a GodModeSue. The only time he forced a \\\"hero\\\" to hold the IdiotBall was when he scared Yara off. And even then it was later implied/stated that there was an ulterior motive on her part to abandon Theon. His arc is far from over so he can\\\'t really be called a KarmaHoudini, either.
* Finally, Ramsay is pretty clearly a HateSink. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] cannot be [[VillainSue Villain Sues]]. He\\\'s not portrayed as a MagnificentBastard. He\\\'s a StupidEvil SmugSnake whose immature-ish, damaging behavior is constantly called out by his clearly mentally superior father.
In conclusion, yes, Ramsay is more charming & capable than his (frankly exaggerated) book counterpart, yes, that one scene with Yara and her crew was pretty dumb/rushed, but that does not make him a VillainSue.
* What Ramsay did or did not do in the books is irrelevant. His show version has been given a dose of AdaptationalAttractiveness (much like the rest of the cast) and he\\\'s shown to be in some sort of sexual relationship(s) with two women. Hardly enough to make one qualify as TheCasanova. It is also made clear that said mistresses are, more or less, a PaidHarem made-up of low-born girls he either dupes or charms by appealing to their own sadistic streak (e.i. Myranda & Violet).
* Most important of all, Ramsay doesn\\\'t meet the two overlaps found on a typical VillainSue. 1) He does not have a FreudianExcuse (his past as child-by-rape is never used to humanise him). 2) He\\\'s by no means a GodModeSue. The only time he forced a \\\"hero\\\" to hold the IdiotBall was when he scared Yara off. And even then it was later implied/stated that there was an ulterior motive on her part to abandon Theon. His arc is far from over so he can\\\'t really be called a KarmaHoudini, either.
* Finally, Ramsay is pretty clearly a HateSink. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] cannot be [[VillainSue Villain Sues]]. He\\\'s not portrayed as a MagnificentBastard. He\\\'s a StupidEvil SmugSnake whose immature-ish, damaging behavior is constantly called out by his clearly mentally superior father.
In conclusion, yes, Ramsay is more charming & capable than his (frankly exaggerated) book counterpart, yes, that one scene with Yara and her crew was pretty dumb/rushed, but that does not make him a VillainSue.
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* There was no \\\"ninja raid\\\". 20 fighters, carrying out a sabotage mission, using a blizzard and the night as cover, in a land they were born in and likely know extremely well is nothing out of ordinary. Much less implausible than the Sons of the Harpy seemingly possessing infinite numbers, appearing out of nowhere and [[CurbStompBattle curb stomping]] entire battalions of supersoldiers.
* What Ramsay did or did not do in the books is irrelevant. His show version has been given a dose of AdaptationalAttractiveness (much like the rest of the cast) and he\\\'s shown to be in some sort of sexual relationship(s) with two women. Hardly enough to make one qualify as TheCasanova. It is also made clear that said mistresses are, more or less, a PaidHarem made-up of low-born girls he either dupes or charms by appealing to their own sadistic streak (e.i. Myranda & Violet).
* Most important of all, Ramsay doesn\\\'t meet the two overlaps found on a typical VillainSue. 1) He does not have a FreudianExcuse (his past as child-by-rape is never used to humanise him). 2) He\\\'s by no means a GodModeSue. The only time he forced a \\\"hero\\\" to hold the IdiotBall was when he scared Yara off. And even then it was later implied/stated that there was an ulterior motive on her part to abandon Theon. His arc is far from over so he can\\\'t really be called a KarmaHoudini, either.
* Finally, Ramsay is pretty clearly a HateSink. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] cannot be [[VillainSue Villain Sues]]. He\\\'s not portrayed as a MagnificentBastard. He\\\'s a StupidEvil SmugSnake whose immature-ish, damaging behavior is constantly called out by his clearly mentally superior father.
In conclusion, yes, Ramsay is more charming & capable than his (frankly exaggerated) book counterpart, yes, that one scene with Yara and her crew was pretty dumb/rushed, but that does not make him a VillainSue.
* What Ramsay did or did not do in the books is irrelevant. His show version has been given a dose of AdaptationalAttractiveness (much like the rest of the cast) and he\\\'s shown to be in some sort of sexual relationship(s) with two women. Hardly enough to make one qualify as TheCasanova. It is also made clear that said mistresses are, more or less, a PaidHarem made-up of low-born girls he either dupes or charms by appealing to their own sadistic streak (e.i. Myranda & Violet).
* Most important of all, Ramsay doesn\\\'t meet the two overlaps found on a typical VillainSue. 1) He does not have a FreudianExcuse (his past as child-by-rape is never used to humanise him). 2) He\\\'s by no means a GodModeSue. The only time he forced a \\\"hero\\\" to hold the IdiotBall was when he scared Yara off. And even then it was later implied/stated that there was an ulterior motive on her part to abandon Theon. His arc is far from over so he can\\\'t really be called a KarmaHoudini, either.
* Finally, Ramsay is pretty clearly a HateSink. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] cannot be [[VillainSue Villain Sues]]. He\\\'s not portrayed as a MagnificentBastard. He\\\'s a StupidEvil SmugSnake whose immature-ish, damaging behavior is constantly called out by his clearly mentally superior father.
In conclusion, yes, Ramsay is more charming & capable than his (frankly exaggerated) book counterpart, yes, that one scene with Yara and her crew was pretty dumb/rushed, but that does not make him a VillainSue.
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* There was no \
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* There was no \\\"ninja raid\\\". 20 fighters, carrying out a sabotage mission, using a blizzard and the night as cover, in a land they were born in and likely know extremely well is nothing out of ordinary. Much less implausible than the Sons of the Harpy seemingly possessing infinite numbers, appearing out of nowhere and [[CurbStompBattle curb stomping]] entire battalions of supersoldiers.
* What Ramsay did or did not do in the books is irrelevant. His show version has been given a dose of AdaptationalAttractiveness (much like the rest of the cast) and he\\\'s shown to be in some sort of sexual relationship(s) with two women. Hardly enough to make one qualify as TheCasanova. It is also made clear that said mistresses are, more or less, a PaidHarem made-up of low-born girls he either dupes or charms by appealing to their own sadistic streak (e.i. Myranda & Violet).
* Most important of all, Ramsay doesn\\\'t meet the two overlaps found on a typical VillainSue. 1) He does not have a FreudianExcuse (his past as child-by-rape is never used to humanise him). 2) He\\\'s by no means a GodModeSue. The only time he forced a \\\"hero\\\" to hold the IdiotBall was when he scared Yara off. And even then it was later implied/stated that there was an ulterior motive on her part to abandon Theon. His arc is far from over so he can\\\'t really be called a KarmaHoundini, either.
* Finally, Ramsay is pretty clearly a HateSink. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] cannot be [[VillainSue Villain Sues]]. He\\\'s not portrayed as a MagnificentBastard. He\\\'s a StupidEvil SmugSnake whose immature-ish, damaging behavior is constantly called out by his clearly mentally superior father.
In conclusion, yes, Ramsay is more charming & capable than his (frankly exaggerated) book counterpart, yes, that one scene with Yara and her crew was pretty dumb/rushed, but that does not make him a VillainSue.
* What Ramsay did or did not do in the books is irrelevant. His show version has been given a dose of AdaptationalAttractiveness (much like the rest of the cast) and he\\\'s shown to be in some sort of sexual relationship(s) with two women. Hardly enough to make one qualify as TheCasanova. It is also made clear that said mistresses are, more or less, a PaidHarem made-up of low-born girls he either dupes or charms by appealing to their own sadistic streak (e.i. Myranda & Violet).
* Most important of all, Ramsay doesn\\\'t meet the two overlaps found on a typical VillainSue. 1) He does not have a FreudianExcuse (his past as child-by-rape is never used to humanise him). 2) He\\\'s by no means a GodModeSue. The only time he forced a \\\"hero\\\" to hold the IdiotBall was when he scared Yara off. And even then it was later implied/stated that there was an ulterior motive on her part to abandon Theon. His arc is far from over so he can\\\'t really be called a KarmaHoundini, either.
* Finally, Ramsay is pretty clearly a HateSink. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] cannot be [[VillainSue Villain Sues]]. He\\\'s not portrayed as a MagnificentBastard. He\\\'s a StupidEvil SmugSnake whose immature-ish, damaging behavior is constantly called out by his clearly mentally superior father.
In conclusion, yes, Ramsay is more charming & capable than his (frankly exaggerated) book counterpart, yes, that one scene with Yara and her crew was pretty dumb/rushed, but that does not make him a VillainSue.
