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* Both are in one-sided relationships with underage (read: 14-year-old) girls, whom they \
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* Both are in one-sided relationships with underage (read: 14-year-old) girls, whom they \\\"kiss passionately\\\" toward the end of each fic.
* Both of them get through the Pretty Cure Graveyard by stealing the souls of the Pretty Cures, sealing them in cards, and then forcing them to fight as their personal army. Some of them, such as the Dark Pretty Cure 5, are already dead, and it is not known what happens to them after their cards are expended.
* Blaze attacks, insults, and bullies all villains simply because they\\\'re on the side of evil while stealing AwesomeMoments from the canon Cures (particularly Cure Melody and Cure Beauty). He does this even if said villains are BrainwashedAndCrazy.
* Blaze repeatedly and verbally attacks AND abuses Siren despite knowing that she is BrainwashedAndCrazy and (in story) possibly his sister.
* Blaze and Shadow both insult and mock Madame Momere (a transgender woman). The former then ups the ante and outright murders her simply because her fate was unknown at the end of Happiness Charge.
* Shadow lives in the same household as Mana (even living in a room next to hers). He is at least 22 in the fic while she\\\'s 14. The entire romance honestly comes across as a sexual predator and his victim, or child-grooming.
* Shadow in particular frequently threatens to murder 12-year-old Regina in gruesome manners, such as melting her face off and then desecrating her body. He succeeds in impaling her in the stomach with his sword and pinning her down to twist the blade several times, despite her (and Mana, whom he is paired with) crying and pleading for him to stop, and near the finale, beats her nearly to death. He is well aware she is brainwashed, but outright states he doesn\\\'t care; because she\\\'s the daughter of the villain, she deserves to die and go straight to Hell. Said villain, King Selfish, is himself BrainwashedAndCrazy. (I\\\'ll add here that it\\\'s also worth nothing that his excuse for hating her - that he holds a grudge from when they met earlier, is bunk. Canonically, Regina would have been either a baby or a small child when they allegedly met.)
* Shadow constantly takes pictures and makes recordings of 10-year-old Aguri despite her insistence that he stop AND him not having permission. He just smirks and keeps doing it, calling the pictures/recordings \\\"his treasure\\\". He later does it with Aguri\\\'s friend Eru, with the same results. On the subject of Aguri, Shadow later threatens to set her on fire in front of Mana\\\'s class, simply because she told them all to leave Mana alone and let her rest when she was sick. The chapter even ends with Aguri apologizing to Shadow for \\\"causing trouble.\\\"
* Blaze and Shadow double team Phantom and steal Cure Honey\\\'s Moment Of Awesome while beating the Pretty Cure Hunter almost to death. Then, when Phantom reverts back to being Phanphan, the two of them flat out bully and belittle him. They then bully Cure Honey when she calls them out, even after she has agreed with their statements.
* And despite all of these actions, Xantrax-42 claims Blaze and Shadow are pure and good-hearted heroes, and the fics take their side in everything. It really says something when a reviewer considers some of the more vile Pretty Cure villains, such as Joker, to be saints when compared to these two.

To add to the list (since Xantrax is still writing these fics, [[KarmaHoudini despite]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/124913/120444133/Report-FFNID-4307970-Xantrax-42-Pretty-Cure-Active-Hostile a lengthy investigation determining he plagiarized from the show, various video games, and other fanfictions]], here are more reasons to add them to the Disgraces.

* They tell an old lady she\\\'ll die alone and Shadow chokes her pet bird while threatening to set it on fire for the [[SarcasmMode horrible crime]] of pecking Hime on the head.
* They bully Yuko for her love of food/cooking; calling her a \\\"glutton,\\\" rolling their eyes and scoffing when she talks about food being love, they call her \\\"please be delicious\\\" wish \\\'voodoo crap\\\' and hit Megumi when she mimics this. And despite this, Shadow still demands Yuko cook for him to \\\'make up for\\\' her taking care of Phantom when the latter was injured.
* Shadow is not against \\\'\\\'shooting his gun at the Cures\\\'\\\' to get their attention; notably seen when he shoots Honey\\\'s microphone, interrupting her song meant to power up the others and calm the monster.
* They bully another ten-year-old, Tsumugi from the Happiness Charge movie, and are unsympathetic to the fact she is being used by an adult male villain.
* They shove in on Lovely\\\'s AwesomeMoment against Red in the finale, while calling him a demon and \\\"Lucifer\\\" mockingly.

Additionally, charges can be brought against the writing style, which is a script-fic (again, against FF.net rules but somehow still has not gotten him banned) using \\\'\\\'incredibly\\\'\\\' stilted dialogue and bizarre phrases (one of them insults a sweets-loving character by repeatedly calling her \\\"sweets-for-brains\\\", for instance), GratuitousJapanese (the author also repeatedly describes Blaze and Shadow as \\\"{{yandere}}\\\" in such a way that indicates that he seems to be mistaking the term for \\\"{{tsundere}}\\\"), minimal scene descriptions, and dialogue lifted almost word-for-word from the fansubs. (To make it even more obvious that he was plagiarizing the fansubs, Xantrax has, at several points, flat-out asked his readers to link him to fansubs for movies or episodes upcoming in his fics and, at one point, put a fic on hiatus claiming lack of inspiration when he wasn\\\'t able to find a fansub quickly enough.) The author himself blocks anyone who criticizes his work at all. Anonymous criticism is deleted and signed reviews that are critical are pushed out of sight by sockpuppets and fans who accuse any dissenters of being \\\"bullies\\\" against Xantrax.

Given all of this, I propose that Blaze and Shadow be named the gods of KarmaHoudini. Furthermore, I propose ranking them as lesser gods of NeutralEvil Type 3 alignment.

If there\\\'s any more information I should provide, please let me know. This is the first time I\\\'ve proposed a character for the Pantheon, so please let me know if there\\\'s anything I neglected to do.
Changed line(s) 5 from:
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* Both are in one-sided relationships with underage (read: 14-year-old) girls, whom they \
to:
* Both are in one-sided relationships with underage (read: 14-year-old) girls, whom they \\\"kiss passionately\\\" toward the end of each fic.
* Both of them get through the Pretty Cure Graveyard by stealing the souls of the Pretty Cures, sealing them in cards, and then forcing them to fight as their personal army. Some of them, such as the Dark Pretty Cure 5, are already dead, and it is not known what happens to them after their cards are expended.
* Blaze attacks, insults, and bullies all villains simply because they\\\'re on the side of evil while stealing AwesomeMoments from the canon Cures (particularly Cure Melody and Cure Beauty). He does this even if said villains are BrainwashedAndCrazy.
* Blaze repeatedly and verbally attacks AND abuses Siren despite knowing that she is BrainwashedAndCrazy and (in story) possibly his sister.
* Blaze and Shadow both insult and mock Madame Momere. The former then ups the ante and outright murders her simply because her fate was unknown at the end of Happiness Charge.
* Shadow lives in the same household as Mana (even living in a room next to hers). He is at least 22 in the fic while she\\\'s 14. The entire romance honestly comes across as a sexual predator and his victim, or child-grooming.
* Shadow in particular frequently threatens to murder 12-year-old Regina in gruesome manners, such as melting her face off and then desecrating her body. He succeeds in impaling her in the stomach with his sword and pinning her down to twist the blade several times, despite her (and Mana, whom he is paired with) crying and pleading for him to stop, and near the finale, beats her nearly to death. He is well aware she is brainwashed, but outright states he doesn\\\'t care; because she\\\'s the daughter of the villain, she deserves to die and go straight to Hell. Said villain, King Selfish, is himself BrainwashedAndCrazy. (I\\\'ll add here that it\\\'s also worth nothing that his excuse for hating her - that he holds a grudge from when they met earlier, is bunk. Canonically, Regina would have been either a baby or a small child when they allegedly met.)
* Shadow constantly takes pictures and makes recordings of 10-year-old Aguri despite her insistence that he stop AND him not having permission. He just smirks and keeps doing it, calling the pictures/recordings \\\"his treasure\\\". He later does it with Aguri\\\'s friend Eru, with the same results. On the subject of Aguri, Shadow later threatens to set her on fire in front of Mana\\\'s class, simply because she told them all to leave Mana alone and let her rest when she was sick. The chapter even ends with Aguri apologizing to Shadow for \\\"causing trouble.\\\"
* Blaze and Shadow double team Phantom and steal Cure Honey\\\'s Moment Of Awesome while beating the Pretty Cure Hunter almost to death. Then, when Phantom reverts back to being Phanphan, the two of them flat out bully and belittle him. They then bully Cure Honey when she calls them out, even after she has agreed with their statements.
* And despite all of these actions, Xantrax-42 claims Blaze and Shadow are pure and good-hearted heroes, and the fics take their side in everything. It really says something when a reviewer considers some of the more vile Pretty Cure villains, such as Joker, to be saints when compared to these two.

To add to the list (since Xantrax is still writing these fics, [[KarmaHoudini despite]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/124913/120444133/Report-FFNID-4307970-Xantrax-42-Pretty-Cure-Active-Hostile a lengthy investigation determining he plagiarized from the show, various video games, and other fanfictions]], here are more reasons to add them to the Disgraces.

* They tell an old lady she\\\'ll die alone and Shadow chokes her pet bird while threatening to set it on fire for the [[SarcasmMode horrible crime]] of pecking Hime on the head.
* They bully Yuko for her love of food/cooking; calling her a \\\"glutton,\\\" rolling their eyes and scoffing when she talks about food being love, they call her \\\"please be delicious\\\" wish \\\'voodoo crap\\\' and hit Megumi when she mimics this. And despite this, Shadow still demands Yuko cook for him to \\\'make up for\\\' her taking care of Phantom when the latter was injured.
* Shadow is not against \\\'\\\'shooting his gun at the Cures\\\'\\\' to get their attention; notably seen when he shoots Honey\\\'s microphone, interrupting her song meant to power up the others and calm the monster.
* They bully another ten-year-old, Tsumugi from the Happiness Charge movie, and are unsympathetic to the fact she is being used by an adult male villain.
* They shove in on Lovely\\\'s AwesomeMoment against Red in the finale, while calling him a demon and \\\"Lucifer\\\" mockingly.

Additionally, charges can be brought against the writing style, which is a script-fic (again, against FF.net rules but somehow still has not gotten him banned) using \\\'\\\'incredibly\\\'\\\' stilted dialogue and bizarre phrases (one of them insults a sweets-loving character by repeatedly calling her \\\"sweets-for-brains\\\", for instance), GratuitousJapanese (the author also repeatedly describes Blaze and Shadow as \\\"{{yandere}}\\\" in such a way that indicates that he seems to be mistaking the term for \\\"{{tsundere}}\\\"), minimal scene descriptions, and dialogue lifted almost word-for-word from the fansubs. (To make it even more obvious that he was plagiarizing the fansubs, Xantrax has, at several points, flat-out asked his readers to link him to fansubs for movies or episodes upcoming in his fics and, at one point, put a fic on hiatus claiming lack of inspiration when he wasn\\\'t able to find a fansub quickly enough.) The author himself blocks anyone who criticizes his work at all. Anonymous criticism is deleted and signed reviews that are critical are pushed out of sight by sockpuppets and fans who accuse any dissenters of being \\\"bullies\\\" against Xantrax.

Given all of this, I propose that Blaze and Shadow be named the gods of KarmaHoudini. Furthermore, I propose ranking them as lesser gods of NeutralEvil Type 3 alignment.

If there\\\'s any more information I should provide, please let me know. This is the first time I\\\'ve proposed a character for the Pantheon, so please let me know if there\\\'s anything I neglected to do.
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