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\\\'\\\'Zaheer successfully helping Korra overcome the trauma he himself put her through in \\\"Beyond the Wilds.\\\" That\\\'s like saying, if a woman was raped by a highly-renowned, successful psychologist or therapist, it would actually be helpful and effective if she went to him for therapy to help her heal\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I disagree with this analogy. Zaheer\\\'s not a rapist; his actions weren\\\'t done out of a [[EntitledToHaveYou warped sense of entitlement]] or any kind of sadistic desire. He genuinely thought he was doing good for the world when he attempted to poison Korra. A more accurate analogy would be the psychologist/therapist mugging the girl to pay for a loved one\\\'s medical bills, then offering his services to the girl when he sees that his actions have given the girl trauma that has negatively impacted the lives of those around her.
\\\'\\\'If he genuinely felt remorse for what he put her through and wanted to atone for his actions, it would be... slightly better. But he feels no guilt, no remorse, for what he did to her...\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
Zaheer does show remorse, in that he\\\'s not proud when he\\\'s informed that his actions have led to the rise of the next BigBad, but I don\\\'t know why you\\\'re saying that Zaheer should be feeling remorseful towards Korra for what he\\\'s done to her. Like I said earlier, he genuinely thought he was doing the world a favour by attempting to kill the Avatar.
\\\'\\\'...and yet submitting to him, relinquishing all control, letting him talk her through the visions of him brutally trying to kill her is what makes her able to heal.\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
That\\\'s more or less [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_therapy Exposure therapy]], which is actually a legitimate form of treating PTSD. I will admit that the scene in question could probably have happened with Jinora in Zaheer\\\'s place, however.
\\\'\\\'It\\\'s the most disgusting, sickening, horrifying display of blaming the victim I\\\'ve ever seen in fiction. If being poisoned and nearly suffocated hurt her, it\\\'s her fault for being weak, not his fault for doing it\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I\\\'m sorry, but I don\\\'t see it as that at all. Zaheer doesn\\\'t tell Korra that she\\\'s weak, just that she\\\'s holding herself back (\\\"You have all the power in the world and the freedom to use it, but you choose to hold yourself down.\\\"), and in fact, the next thing he tells her is that [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre she\\\'s not nearly as weak as she thinks she is]] (\\\"You think your power has limits; I say, it\\\'s limitless.\\\").
\\\'\\\'Zaheer successfully helping Korra overcome the trauma he himself put her through in \\\"Beyond the Wilds.\\\" That\\\'s like saying, if a woman was raped by a highly-renowned, successful psychologist or therapist, it would actually be helpful and effective if she went to him for therapy to help her heal\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I disagree with this analogy. Zaheer\\\'s not a rapist; his actions weren\\\'t done out of a [[EntitledToHaveYou warped sense of entitlement]] or any kind of sadistic desire. He genuinely thought he was doing good for the world when he attempted to poison Korra. A more accurate analogy would be the psychologist/therapist mugging the girl to pay for a loved one\\\'s medical bills, then offering his services to the girl when he sees that his actions have given the girl trauma that has negatively impacted the lives of those around her.
\\\'\\\'If he genuinely felt remorse for what he put her through and wanted to atone for his actions, it would be... slightly better. But he feels no guilt, no remorse, for what he did to her...\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
Zaheer does show remorse, in that he\\\'s not proud when he\\\'s informed that his actions have led to the rise of the next BigBad, but I don\\\'t know why you\\\'re saying that Zaheer should be feeling remorseful towards Korra for what he\\\'s done to her. Like I said earlier, he genuinely thought he was doing the world a favour by attempting to kill the Avatar.
\\\'\\\'...and yet submitting to him, relinquishing all control, letting him talk her through the visions of him brutally trying to kill her is what makes her able to heal.\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
That\\\'s more or less [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_therapy Exposure therapy]], which is actually a legitimate form of treating PTSD. I will admit that the scene in question could probably have happened with Jinora in Zaheer\\\'s place, however.
\\\'\\\'It\\\'s the most disgusting, sickening, horrifying display of blaming the victim I\\\'ve ever seen in fiction. If being poisoned and nearly suffocated hurt her, it\\\'s her fault for being weak, not his fault for doing it\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I\\\'m sorry, but I don\\\'t see it as that at all. Zaheer doesn\\\'t tell Korra that she\\\'s weak, just that she\\\'s holding herself back (\\\"You have all the power in the world and the freedom to use it, but you choose to hold yourself down.\\\"), and in fact, the next thing he tells her is that [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre she\\\'s not nearly as weak as she thinks she is]] (\\\"You think your power has limits; I say, it\\\'s limitless.\\\").
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\\\'\\\'Zaheer successfully helping Korra overcome the trauma he himself put her through in \\\"Beyond the Wilds.\\\" That\\\'s like saying, if a woman was raped by a highly-renowned, successful psychologist or therapist, it would actually be helpful and effective if she went to him for therapy to help her heal\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I disagree with this analogy. Zaheer\\\'s not a rapist; his actions weren\\\'t done out of a [[EntitledToHaveYou warped sense of entitlement]] or any kind of sadistic desire. He genuinely thought he was doing good for the world when he attempted to poison Korra. A more accurate analogy would be the psychologist/therapist mugging the girl to pay for a loved one\\\'s medical bills, then offering his services to the girl when he sees that his actions have given the girl trauma that has negatively impacted the lives of those around her.
\\\'\\\'If he genuinely felt remorse for what he put her through and wanted to atone for his actions, it would be... slightly better. But he feels no guilt, no remorse, for what he did to her...\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
Zaheer does show remorse, in that he\\\'s not proud when he\\\'s informed that his actions have led to the rise of the next BigBad, but I don\\\'t know why you\\\'re saying that Zaheer should be feeling remorseful towards Korra for what he\\\'s done to her. Like I said earlier, he genuinely thought he was doing the world a favour by attempting to kill the Avatar.
\\\"...and yet submitting to him, relinquishing all control, letting him talk her through the visions of him brutally trying to kill her is what makes her able to heal.\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
That\\\'s more or less Exposure therapy, which is actually a legitimate form of treating PTSD. I will admit that the scene in question could probably have happened with Jinora in Zaheer\\\'s place, however.
\\\'\\\'It\\\'s the most disgusting, sickening, horrifying display of blaming the victim I\\\'ve ever seen in fiction. If being poisoned and nearly suffocated hurt her, it\\\'s her fault for being weak, not his fault for doing it\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I\\\'m sorry, but I don\\\'t see it as that at all. Zaheer doesn\\\'t tell Korra that she\\\'s weak, just that she\\\'s holding herself back (\\\"You have all the power in the world and the freedom to use it, but you choose to hold yourself down.\\\"), and in fact, the next thing he tells her is that [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre she\\\'s not nearly as weak as she thinks she is]] (\\\"You think your power has limits; I say, it\\\'s limitless.\\\").
\\\'\\\'Zaheer successfully helping Korra overcome the trauma he himself put her through in \\\"Beyond the Wilds.\\\" That\\\'s like saying, if a woman was raped by a highly-renowned, successful psychologist or therapist, it would actually be helpful and effective if she went to him for therapy to help her heal\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I disagree with this analogy. Zaheer\\\'s not a rapist; his actions weren\\\'t done out of a [[EntitledToHaveYou warped sense of entitlement]] or any kind of sadistic desire. He genuinely thought he was doing good for the world when he attempted to poison Korra. A more accurate analogy would be the psychologist/therapist mugging the girl to pay for a loved one\\\'s medical bills, then offering his services to the girl when he sees that his actions have given the girl trauma that has negatively impacted the lives of those around her.
\\\'\\\'If he genuinely felt remorse for what he put her through and wanted to atone for his actions, it would be... slightly better. But he feels no guilt, no remorse, for what he did to her...\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
Zaheer does show remorse, in that he\\\'s not proud when he\\\'s informed that his actions have led to the rise of the next BigBad, but I don\\\'t know why you\\\'re saying that Zaheer should be feeling remorseful towards Korra for what he\\\'s done to her. Like I said earlier, he genuinely thought he was doing the world a favour by attempting to kill the Avatar.
\\\"...and yet submitting to him, relinquishing all control, letting him talk her through the visions of him brutally trying to kill her is what makes her able to heal.\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
That\\\'s more or less Exposure therapy, which is actually a legitimate form of treating PTSD. I will admit that the scene in question could probably have happened with Jinora in Zaheer\\\'s place, however.
\\\'\\\'It\\\'s the most disgusting, sickening, horrifying display of blaming the victim I\\\'ve ever seen in fiction. If being poisoned and nearly suffocated hurt her, it\\\'s her fault for being weak, not his fault for doing it\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I\\\'m sorry, but I don\\\'t see it as that at all. Zaheer doesn\\\'t tell Korra that she\\\'s weak, just that she\\\'s holding herself back (\\\"You have all the power in the world and the freedom to use it, but you choose to hold yourself down.\\\"), and in fact, the next thing he tells her is that [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre she\\\'s not nearly as weak as she thinks she is]] (\\\"You think your power has limits; I say, it\\\'s limitless.\\\").
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Removing Julia1984\\\'s point. See below:
\\\'\\\'Zaheer successfully helping Korra overcome the trauma he himself put her through in \\\"Beyond the Wilds.\\\" That\\\'s like saying, if a woman was raped by a highly-renowned, successful psychologist or therapist, it would actually be helpful and effective if she went to him for therapy to help her heal\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I disagree with this analogy. Zaheer\\\'s not a rapist; his actions weren\\\'t done out of a [[EntitledToHaveYou warped sense of entitlement]] or any kind of sadistic desire. He genuinely thought he was doing good for the world when he attempted to poison Korra. A more accurate analogy would be the psychologist/therapist mugging the girl to pay for a loved one\\\'s medical bills, then offering his services to the girl when he sees that his actions have given the girl trauma that has negatively impacted the lives of those around her.
\\\'\\\'If he genuinely felt remorse for what he put her through and wanted to atone for his actions, it would be... slightly better. But he feels no guilt, no remorse, for what he did to her...\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
Zaheer does show remorse, in that he\\\'s not proud when he\\\'s informed that his actions have led to the rise of the next BigBad, but I don\\\'t know why you\\\'re saying that Zaheer should be feeling remorseful towards Korra for what he\\\'s done to her. Like I said earlier, he genuinely thought he was doing the world a favour by attempting to kill the Avatar.
\\\"...and yet submitting to him, relinquishing all control, letting him talk her through the visions of him brutally trying to kill her is what makes her able to heal.\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
That\\\'s more or less Exposure therapy, which is actually a legitimate form of treating PTSD. I will admit that the scene in question could probably have happened with Jinora in Zaheer\\\'s place, however.
\\\'\\\'It\\\'s the most disgusting, sickening, horrifying display of blaming the victim I\\\'ve ever seen in fiction. If being poisoned and nearly suffocated hurt her, it\\\'s her fault for being weak, not his fault for doing it\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I\\\'m sorry, but I don\\\'t see it as that at all. Zaheer doesn\\\'t tell Korra that she\\\'s weak, just that she\\\'s holding herself back (\\\"You have all the power in the world and the freedom to use it, but you choose to hold yourself down.\\\"), and in fact, the next thing he tells her is that [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre she\\\'s not nearly as weak as she thinks she is]] (\\\"You think your power has limits; I say, it\\\'s limitless.\\\").
\\\'\\\'Zaheer successfully helping Korra overcome the trauma he himself put her through in \\\"Beyond the Wilds.\\\" That\\\'s like saying, if a woman was raped by a highly-renowned, successful psychologist or therapist, it would actually be helpful and effective if she went to him for therapy to help her heal\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I disagree with this analogy. Zaheer\\\'s not a rapist; his actions weren\\\'t done out of a [[EntitledToHaveYou warped sense of entitlement]] or any kind of sadistic desire. He genuinely thought he was doing good for the world when he attempted to poison Korra. A more accurate analogy would be the psychologist/therapist mugging the girl to pay for a loved one\\\'s medical bills, then offering his services to the girl when he sees that his actions have given the girl trauma that has negatively impacted the lives of those around her.
\\\'\\\'If he genuinely felt remorse for what he put her through and wanted to atone for his actions, it would be... slightly better. But he feels no guilt, no remorse, for what he did to her...\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
Zaheer does show remorse, in that he\\\'s not proud when he\\\'s informed that his actions have led to the rise of the next BigBad, but I don\\\'t know why you\\\'re saying that Zaheer should be feeling remorseful towards Korra for what he\\\'s done to her. Like I said earlier, he genuinely thought he was doing the world a favour by attempting to kill the Avatar.
\\\"...and yet submitting to him, relinquishing all control, letting him talk her through the visions of him brutally trying to kill her is what makes her able to heal.\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
That\\\'s more or less Exposure therapy, which is actually a legitimate form of treating PTSD. I will admit that the scene in question could probably have happened with Jinora in Zaheer\\\'s place, however.
\\\'\\\'It\\\'s the most disgusting, sickening, horrifying display of blaming the victim I\\\'ve ever seen in fiction. If being poisoned and nearly suffocated hurt her, it\\\'s her fault for being weak, not his fault for doing it\\\'\\\'\\\\\\\\
I\\\'m sorry, but I don\\\'t see it as that at all. Zaheer doesn\\\'t tell Korra that she\\\'s weak, just that she\\\'s holding herself back (\\\"You have all the power in the world and the freedom to use it, but you choose to hold yourself down.\\\"), and in fact, the next thing he tells her is that [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre she\\\'s not nearly as weak as she thinks she is]] (\\\"You think your power has limits; I say, it\\\'s limitless.\\\").
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Criticism of the Nostalgia Critic doesn\'t seem to fly on this site without creating a FlameWar. It\'s just not accepted by his fans and seeing that Doug is quite popular among tropers every other negative comment about him (much like the one above) will be removed. I like Doug Walker, but he is a fallible being like anyone else. Some of his jokes have fallen flat in the past, or been a bad parody, or have potential to offend some people. There have been weaker episodes, even ones where he was clearly just releasing something because he ran out of time (the notable \
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Criticism of the Nostalgia Critic doesn\\\'t seem to fly on this site without creating a FlameWar. It\\\'s just not accepted by his fans and seeing that Doug is quite popular among tropers every other negative comment about him (much like the one above) will be removed. I like Doug Walker, but he is a fallible being like anyone else. Some of his jokes have fallen flat in the past, or been a bad parody, or have potential to offend some people. There have been weaker episodes, even ones where he was clearly just releasing something because he ran out of time (the notable \\\"Let\\\'s Play\\\" rant video). But on the other hand it\\\'s almost inevitable if you release as many videos per week as he does. You\\\'re bound to say or do things that you didn\\\'t really think through or will offend some segment of the viewers. The same applies to his CriticalResearchFailure. He has a lot of videos where he speaks his mind about a variety of topics, and since 2013 he does this on a two weekly basis between other projects. It\\\'s not surprising that his opinions can be badly researched or rather short and shallow. I mean, most of the time they only take a couple of minutes or so.
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It seems to be a valid viewpoint. I\'ve noticed it too. Criticism of the Nostalgia Critic doesn\'t seem to fly on this site without creating a FlameWar. It\'s just not accepted by his fans and seeing that Doug is quite popular among tropers every other negative comment about him (much like the one above) will be removed. I like Doug Walker, but he is a fallible being like anyone else. Some of his jokes have fallen flat in the past, or been a bad parody, or have potential to offend some people. There have been weaker episodes, even ones where he was clearly just releasing something because he ran out of time (the notable \
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Criticism of the Nostalgia Critic doesn\\\'t seem to fly on this site without creating a FlameWar. It\\\'s just not accepted by his fans and seeing that Doug is quite popular among tropers every other negative comment about him (much like the one above) will be removed. I like Doug Walker, but he is a fallible being like anyone else. Some of his jokes have fallen flat in the past, or been a bad parody, or have potential to offend some people. There have been weaker episodes, even ones where he was clearly just releasing something because he ran out of time (the notable \\\"Let\\\'s Play\\\" rant video). But on the other hand it\\\'s almost inevitable if you release as many videos per week as he does. You\\\'re bound to say or do things that you didn\\\'t really think through or will offend some segment of the viewers. The same applies to his CriticalResearchFailure. He has a lot of videos where he speaks his mind about a variety of topics, and since 2013 he does this on a two weekly basis between other projects. It\\\'s not surprising that his opinions can be badly researched or not always an in depth discussion at times.
